Winter Storm Threat- 8pm Update
Winter Storm Threat- 8pm UpdateWSAZ Blog Listing
Winter Storm Threat- 8pm Update
Topic Author: Chris Bailey
Posted: 3:36 AM Feb 3, 2010
Replies Posted: 109 comments
Save Email Print
Recent Blog Topics

8pm Update

Good evening everyone and thanks for blogging. I wanted to drop by for a quick update as the 18z run of the  GFS came in much snowier across the entire Tri State. Here is the snow map from it...

Again... don't get married to that map because it will surely change from run to run. I am only showing it to say that the odds for a major snowfall in all or parts of the Tri state is on the rise.

I will have a full update later tonight so check back. Take care.

4pm Update

Good afternoon everyone. My apologies for the late post as I was dealing with internet issues at home so I had to get to work to get this post on. I am upgrading most of the tri state to a  Winter Storm Threat for Friday into Saturday as a major winter storm takes aim at the region.

Here is a look at the threat area...


The threat is for the are I believe has the best chance at seeing 4" or more of snow out of this storm. A Winter Storm Watch has been posted for parts of the region already and I hope to have a maps of that soon. The trend for the models is for less of a low into the Tennessee Valley on Friday and more of a focus on the Main low across the Carolinas. This would mean we do not get as much of a "warm" surge of air into the state Friday.

The NAM is coming around to that idea and shows a pretty big snowfall hit for some of the areas we have outlined...


Here is what I am thinking...

- Precip moves in quickly later Thursday night into Friday morning from south to north. This is likely to be a mixed bag of snow, sleet and some rain. It could easily be all snow for a few hours.

- There is likely to be a transition to rain across the southern sections during the day Friday. I just don't know how far north that rain line will get. If it stays farther south... the snow totals north of it will be much higher.

- Colder air crashes in here Friday evening with rain to snow in all areas by the wee hours of Saturday morning.

- It is likely to be snowing hard in most areas late Friday night into Saturday morning.

- Whoever gets mainly snow is going to get a pretty good pounding out of this as it will be a heavy, wet snow that can bring power outages with it. Again... odds favor the north and northeast as having the best shot at something like this.

This is a very complicated storm as you can see so the forecast can easily change over the next few days. The blog will stay on top of it and have updates as needed.

By the way... the period from Monday night through Wednesday of next week looks nothing short of wicked right now.

Take care.
 

Previous Update

Good Wednesday everyone and thanks for stopping by the blog. What are we to do about the weekend storm system that will be rolling our way? That is the million dollar question right now and it is one that I do not quite have the answer to just yet as we find the computer models now evenly split into two distinct camps for Friday and Saturday.

The first camp of models basically now consists of the NAM and GFS as they both have the dual structured storm look. The first low makes it all the way into Kentucky before weakening out and giving way to the main low across the Carolinas. You can see how this looks on the GFS for Friday Evening...



That would bring a sure of slightly warmer air into the region for much of the daylight hours Friday meaning a cold rain for the west and south with a mix and snow in the north and east being likely. Everything would then change to snow from north to south Friday night with snows carrying into early Saturday on the GFS.

Now take a look at the European Model for the EXACT same time...



You notice it does not have the bluegrass state low and instead puts all the emphasis on the low in the Carolinas. That setup would imply less warm air advection into the region and a better chance for more wintry weather Friday with a faster transition to snow Friday evening.

The Canadian Model is also in the camp of the European right now. Which camp is right? Heck if I know as we are still a few days away and have plenty of time to figure it all out.  If you held a gun to my head and made me tell you what I THINK is going to happen, you would get something like this...

- A cold rain and mix develops from south to north early Friday with mainly snow in the north into Ohio and the WV mountains. Temps will be within a few degrees of freezing making for a tough call on precip type.

- Rain and mix will change to snow quickly Friday evening from north to south as temps drop below freezing.

- Saturday would likely feature snow and it could be heavy at times with the POTENTIAL for several inches.

- The best bet for a significant snowfall would be across the northern areas that didn't get as much out of this past storm and for the mountains.

- Since you have a gun to my head... please don't shoot!

Given that the NAM and GFS are the warmest and strongest with the 2nd low... they are still spitting out a decent snowfall...

GFS


NAM (Only through Friday Night)


Again... those are the two models that bring the other low the farthest north so they are going to show less snowfall. Don't worry.. those maps will change a lot with the next few runs.

The NAM run does suggest some good snows would fall regardless during the day Saturday...

Saturday Morning



That actually doesn't look too bad.

As you can see... this storm is a headache to forecast and is really the first system we have had this entire winter that we have really had to worry about "the fence" between rain and snow! It should be fun to track the next few days... well... maybe not fun for me.

By the way... watch out early next week as yet another storm is likely to make a run at us ahead of a major arctic outbreak...
Tuesday Morning


Is this an exciting winter pattern or what? I will have updates later today so make sure you check back. Have a great Wednesday and take care.
 

Post Your Comments
First Name:
Email (optional):
Location:
Enter Comments:  
   characters left
Email will not be displayed on site. For station contact purpose only.
Read Comments
Posted by: kris I live in New Boston OHIO and all the locals say were just goin to get rain, is there any truth to that because I would really like some snow??????

Posted by: TD Chris,I soooo love reading all the info. Keep up the good work on your blog and maps.

Posted by: Mario in past history, with this setup , us living in ohio may luck out, what i mean is that the one low that will be located around kentucky may weaken and a low will strengthen right on the coast. The first low will be stripped of its energy which will diminish snow amounts in ohio. Maybe not though, i hope not! ohio needs MORE SNOW this season.

Posted by: ready for summer what can we expect from this major snow storm coming in on friday and saturday? will it be bad as what we had back in december?. also what parts of the tri-state will get hit the most with this storm?

Posted by: TheOtherPerson Talk about pin point...I'll watch the 11:00 news and then straight to here. VERY informative! Chris, you are truely dedicated in bringing the most accurate and pin-point forcast there is! I thank you.

Posted by: Lissa Still waiting on the biggie! If MD is getting 18-20 inches, that is what I want!

Posted by: Dianna Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for your imformative blog! So much better than the simple forecasts other sites post. Nice to see things in detail like this and love the humor. Again, thanks! Hope you stay safe in the snow!

Posted by: Jill Ok Jim Barack is calling for 4-6 in what's your guestimate??

Posted by: snowbunny Looks like Southern (wayyy southern!)Wayne County is only lined up for a couple of inches this time. I know, I know, it's still early in the game and things could change, so I'm not betting the farm on these totals. Since it is looking like a wet, heavy snowfall I am not gonna complain if we get left out on this one either! Loss of power makes it tough and when you are out in the sticks you are the last to get your power on...trust me, after 10 days in the dark the last time, we know where we rank on the old power totem pole! lol. Thanks Chris, you are more than a "friendly weather dude", you are a "fantastic weather dude"!

Posted by: Missy End Well this storm just keep moving. I just wish for 1 thing. I was wishing this snow would not be wet so electric will not go out. Everyone is say it's going to be snow just like in December. You are doing a great job keep up the good work. Get you some rest and keep us posted. Thanks again

Posted by: Mike Thanks for the updates...but we are really tired of snow in Mingo County. How much longer till spring????

Posted by: Kim Hey Chris, I am not good at reading these weather maps...but it looks like to me that the first map shows Shelbiana, Ky getting more snow than the last map that you posted at 8pm. I like the first map the best..lol...Still keeping my fingers crossed..

Posted by: Patrice Enough already!!! I want warm, sunny weather. I guess we will take what God gives us. I love reading the Blogs! Thanks

Posted by: OH Snow Lover Chris, you are great at what you do and are clearly in your element (no pun intended). You have great "meteorological flow" --we're afraid you will one day move on from WSAZ. STAY WITH US! Now for my armchair call: ...gut feeling is telling me the M-T-W deal might be a pretty good hit on the heals of the wet one this weekend -- seems like good timing for that last big "umph" before some mid-Feb warmup. -- then maybe that early March snap (when that annoying 3" falls and everybody is sick of it and ready for spring). Get out the sleds; any of these could be it for 2010.

Posted by: Matt Thank you so much for all your hard work. This is my favorite place to get weather info.

Posted by: christy Thanks for the updates, Iknow you blog on even on your time off. How lucky WSAZ and also he have here in the surrounding counties to have you as one of our meteoroligist. I check in three times a day reading your blog. Please keep up the great working your doing.

Posted by: kk we love the snow you're great

Posted by: Shannon Thanks for the constant updates. I love reading your blogs. Keeping my fingers crossed this one IS the big one. Chesapeake Ohio

Posted by: Athens county Looks like Athens County could see the biggest snow since 2003, boys get the plows ready ha ha ha

Posted by: lindak we will be lucky to get 3-5 inches...folks here..don't get too happy, it taint going to happen if you want the big stuff head to MD.

Posted by: Kris I love you maps! I hope we get this snow, the only downfall is I have to work on Saturday!!!

Posted by: Lee Ann Thanks for all the work you do and keeping everyone informed! I LOVE snow and keep on waiting for the big one. I know it's tough for our area since it's centrally located and the warm air can win out over the cold quite easily. Your job is a tough one!!

Posted by: JC I love your maps and the fact that you have the guts to lay it out for us this early. I have to say, I ran onto this blog by accident b/c I am usually a WCHS fan but I have started watching you now at 5pm.

Posted by: Jon I love that- "Don't get married to that map!" HAHA

Posted by: casey WE WANT THE SNOW!!!!CAN YOU TELL US HOW MUCH WE WILL GET .:)

Posted by: NANCY THANKS CHRIS FOR THE UPDATE--LOOKS GOOD HERE FOR SOUTHERN OHIO--I LOVE SNOW--KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lisa Chris, you do an awesome job!!! One of the best thats been around here...

Posted by: Ronnie Snow,snow go away

Posted by: Anonymous Now watch, we get all these snows this winter, and wont have any for the next 3!

Posted by: Leach liz My frend bailey she is the one who said please please please pleasee please please please please come to our school at waterford. i love the chance of snow because i whant school out oooooooo my mom is calling me i better get off now so by by by by by by by

Posted by: Andrea Bring on the snow :) .. But not the power outages.. I can't deal with that .

Posted by: Help From the look of the map I'm thinking Mingo County may be in the 2-4 inch range. Does this look right to everyone else? I'm tired of snow.

Posted by: WeatherWatcher Thanks for your updates Chris. Read your blog every morning.

Posted by: Savannah Hope it snows lots and sticks around for several days! I'd love to go sledding!

Posted by: Marie well...you have floyd split for threat mode...I'm in the southern part....is it still possible for the whole county to be involved in the heavier white stuff?....soooo very tired of winter

Posted by: Mr.Attar I am a teacher at Wellston High School where they have started calling me “meteorologist Attar” they think I am a weather genius however it’s all thanks to your blog… I am looking forward to big snow here in Southeastern Ohio. So are my students!

Posted by: connor hi Chis its connor if we get all the snow

Posted by: tina i live on a mountain between louisa and catlettsburg and i.m tired of snow and possible power outages. when will this end? i have a jeep wrangler but its not a miracle car.

Posted by: Anonymous good job chris keep the snow coming

Posted by: Angie Chris, is this going to be like the dec storm when everybody lost power. I have a child with asthma and he can't be around certain types of heat. Just kind of wondering. How much snow and when will it hit? Thank you for all that you do and for always keeping us up to date. You are the only weather guy I listen to considering you had our forecast right 4 or 5 days out with the last storm. You are just awesome and our viewing area is very lucky to have someone so dedicated to his job. You don't have to blog on your time off. We just really appreciate everything.

Posted by: Chad thanks for doing this blog chris...i absolutly love looking at the models you generate. keep up the good work!

Posted by: Heather I am so glad to see that I am not the only snow lover out there, I talk about wanting snow and sometimes people look at me as if I have lost my mind. I hope this storm isnt disappointing! Keep up the good work Chris

Posted by: lindak YOU ALL want some snow? Go to Maryland this weekend, 18-20 inches or so.

Posted by: bailey please chris come to our class i want you to come to our class so bad please that would a lot to all of us but mostly Mrs.Ketchum she realy wants you to come so if you had time Monday through Friday.

Posted by: Lynda I am loving it! Thanks for keeping us up to date and providing the blog! I am addicted!

Posted by: Junior What snowfall does it look like by the time this snow storm is done in Wayne Co ?

Posted by: dee hope jxn co gets a good snow fall, would like to go sledding with the kids at least one more time, then bring on the spring!!

Posted by: dale Thanks for all you do!!!

Posted by: Gallia County What does it look like for Gallipolis on Friday?

Posted by: Buckeye Secondary Low over Kentucky still looks very promising from what I am reading. The trick is in the timing and the velocity of the winds Friday AM, looking at low 20's to start on Friday from Chillicothe north. Everyone now wants to race the cold air in late Friday afternoon, so the change to an all snow pattern may happen down that way sooner than later Friday night. Looks like rain/snow line may pretty much straddle the Ohio river, sleet/freezing rain on either side maybe 30 miles or so. Chris has the jump on this, his weather forcasting breatheren in Columbus are just now starting to think that this might amount to something.

Posted by: MELISSA RATLIFF HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT! LOVE THAT WICKED WEATHER. THE MORE SNOW THE MERRIER. THANKS

Posted by: Anonymous looks like no school friday or all next week....

Posted by: Andy The Weather Channel would love to have you. HAHA

Posted by: bub You are the man chris

Posted by: Brian Bring on the double digits!!

Posted by: nancy i need an update chris

Posted by: TRAVIS JUST HOW MUCH SNOW COULD WE SEE HERE IN CHARLESTON FROM THIS STORM

Posted by: Nanette What concerns me is the transition that the Marina talked about on the noon news. She says maybe will happen sometime Friday. I do hope that we don't get ice, snow we can deal with, ice is something else. Heavy wet snow and ice doesn't bode well with keeping the power on.

Posted by: Snow Lover AccuWeather.com released a snow map today calling for 12-24" from Charleston/Huntington northward. They are also using the "B" word. What do you think about this Chris??? http://www.accuweather.com/mt-news-blogs.asp?partner=accuweather&blog=Meteomadness&pgurl=/mtweb/content/Meteomadness/archives/2010/02/snow_map_for_the_blizzard.asp

Posted by: Anonymous I WANT SNOW!! WAHHHHHHH!!!! :(

Posted by: katy I love reading this blog. Keep up the good work. Does anyone have any idea why I can't load all of these maps. I can usually get one to load but the rest stay red x's even if I reload over and over. I have a faily new computer and satellite internet.

Posted by: marie As of now it still does not look like our area is shaping up to anymore than two to four.

Posted by: Matt P. Chris, I usually don't put too much stock into any forecast. It's not that I don't believe you, I just know how the river cities area reacts to these kinds of thigs. I have however noticed that even the largest news outlets are calling for some decent snowfall for us starting tomorrow night. I am curious if you have any updates or informations regarding model runs and such. Thanks and I enjoy the blog!

Posted by: Anonymous if you look at the tuesday model it looks like a couple of more storms are to come after our tuesday storm????

Posted by: Rhonda waiting patiently for your update. I so hope its snows LOTS instead of rain. So I await your next post with anticipation.

Posted by: Scott We need an update.

Posted by: maryjo Hey Chris. Symmes Creek over here in Chesapeake has just thawed. Will it freeze again. just wondering. I live on Symme's Creek and the ducks and geese have "come" home. Keep up the good work. Your followers apprciate you.

Posted by: Kim I really enjoy reading your blog and I have become a fan and added you to my Facebook. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a big one...you have done a great job..keep it up :)

Posted by: Becki Oh Chris. I have been freezin me bunns off the way it is. I love the snow,but hate the ice and wind. Anyone know any good fixes for wind chapped dry cheeks?? If it is gonna snow, then by gosh make it a 2 footer!!!!! My dogs would love it, I wouldnt have to drive off the hill to come downtown to work..and I could sleep in..ahhh..what a life...If you guys get bad weather, please remember to put in your location. I always look to see where you are. Thanks!

Posted by: lane I hope it dont snow I'm ready for spring.

Posted by: Linda ANOTHER STORM??? Whatever!!!Chris we are ready for spring.Hook us up..

Posted by: toney hi from the town of wayne, it is 1:30pm and 37 degrees and cloudy. i see accuweather has our snow area in the 1 foot range for friday and saturday. if you subscribe to pro then click on meteomadness to get his snow map. i will post again later today thanks and god bless you and hi to chris bailey.

Posted by: tess hey chris, used to follow you on wkyt, so glad to find your blog, you are by far the most accurate forecast i've found. thanks, tess

Posted by: Ky girl I love your blog. I appreciate your honesty. If you're just not sure yet, you say so. Do you know how hard it is to get your kids out of bed for school when they've been "promised" snow and it doesn't happen? :) Thanks for keeping us informed.

Posted by: Susan Come on chris baby. bring on the snow!Love it!

Posted by: biggest fan Okay so look. I have to say here that I wanted a little more snow...we had it...now I am done. I am ready for warm weather, sunny skies, and grass between the toes of my bare feet. If I am reading this blog right...we are no where near done. Am I reading that right? Really? To my friendly neighborhood weather dude...what do you think the REST of February looks like...I mean after these next two frost bitten storms pass?????

Posted by: Anonymous NO NO NO NO MORE SNOW....Spring Hurry Up and Get here.....

Posted by: Nancy STOP! ENOUGH ALREADY. MAKE IT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Posted by: brenda o.k. chris, these weekend storms are getting to be the pitts. lets just get them out of the way, because on Feb.20, two of my co-workers and i have tickets for the Tim Mcgraw concert and we just have to go. see what you can do!

Posted by: Snowbunny Looking forward to your updates!

Posted by: Patsy What a teaser! Can't wait to see how this storm develops. Would love 8-10 inches in Portsmouth!

Posted by: Fred B Bring on a throwback 3 footer....!!!!

Posted by: cupid how much snow u think we will get? and do u think they will be power outages? please mention this in your blog or when your giving the forecast.. thanks

Posted by: lindak Our area here(see location above)will get 4-5 inches, more south, Maryland 18-20 inches(near Annapolis)Virginia, near Roanoke, about 12 inches...

Posted by: Joseph W. Fisher Hey Chris. I am glad to see someone is watching to see how things should and might happen. Remember only God know how this storm will turn out. Ready or not, here it comes. I am new on ther blog here and I do appreciate your efforts to forecast the weather around here. God bless you Chris.

Posted by: road warrior Wow Chris! Thanks! I travel across the south with work and live in Ashland. I'm in AL right now and have been hearing about the possible storm. I'm supposed to fly back Friday at 4pm going through Charlotte! Although most of the info above is over my hear (lol), it has me thinking I may want to try to get in on an earlier flight! When you're flying, this kind of information is extremely helpful b/c if I wait until the day of I won't have much luck. Thanks again Chris! I'll keep watching and praying that it doesn't hit until late Friday night.... whatever it may be at this point...

Posted by: Mr. T A double stack of storms. I love the snow.

Posted by: tifany Hi Chris we love your blog.I wish for a 100 feet of snow :)

Posted by: Michelle I love your blogs. Thanks for all you do to keep us up to date on these storms!!! I sure hope we get a real BIG one this year!!

Posted by: Mimi Chris, my First Graders and I check the blog to learn what a prediction is. You were right last week! We have confidence in you!

Posted by: Jerry Will keep an eye on this down in the coal fields. We got a little less than I expected last week I was hoping for a foot but we actually got 8 inches in my back yard. Toney from Wayne hit it right on the nose in his prediction.Will keep you psted. THE SNOWMAN

Posted by: JD Bussa WHY NO WEDNESDAY MORNING FORCAST BY JOSH THIS WEDNESDAY AM???

Posted by: Dan Thanks for the update Chris.

Posted by: Snowlover My gut told me last week the storm was going further north and this week my gut tells me we will get Rain with a little snow 1-2 inches. Too much warm air and that dual low wont help things. Dual Lows spell we weather around here.

Posted by: Marion Chris, I took a survey this morning and my class is split. Half of the class says a lot of snow this weekend and the other half are very doubtful. I myself am a snow lover, so, bring it on.

Posted by: abby I WANT SUMMER NOW AHHHHHH :)

Posted by: Mike Are we in winter threat mode yet? :)

Posted by: Austin yo chris our class up dates every day...we love checking the weather...bring on the snow i love snow boarding

Posted by: ray yes, this is a very exciting winter! i love the snow! i guess im just a 40yr old weather lovin, snow lovin, kid at heart :-) keep up the good work!

Posted by: Chastity Chris, please keep us updated as you always do so well. Also everyone remember to bring in your animals when it get's bad as they can't handle the cold temperatures and snowy conditions well. Also don't forget to feed our feathered friends out there! Go WVU

Posted by: Bri hay me and

Posted by: Betty I love your weather blog!!!!

Posted by: Robin I hope Racine Ohio gets in on a big snow for once. So far it looks good for us! Thanks for keeping us updated Chris! WSAZ is by far the best!

Posted by: Vince Thanks for all the info Chris, look fwd to your update!!

Posted by: Anxious Student What are the chances for some school closings or early dismissal on Friday??

Posted by: Michael and Lil Hey Chris!!!! We LOVE your blog!! You are awesome! Bring on the snow..!! You go above and beyond your call of duty. We read your blog several times a day. Hats off to you!!!

Posted by: Lil Jimmy Norton Are there any chance of getting Monster Rain?

Posted by: jennifer Do you think it will be like the one in Dec and have major power outages?

Posted by: iwantsnow this makes my head hurt. good job chris

Most Active Blogs
Blog Topic Comments
A Tri State Winter To Remember- 8pm Tri State 41
Saturday Snow Tracker-7pm Update 97
Snows To Increase Across Tri State- 10pm Update 154
Prolonged Winter Storm Underway- 6pm Update 102
A Lot Of Snow On The Way- 10:30pm Update 149
Winter Won't Go Away 2pm Update 44
Winter Set To Make A Big Return 61
Warmest Day Of The Month 44
Fun Friday Weather Blog- 6pm Update 47
Still Some Snows Hanging On- 5pm Update 58
Snow Showers Continue-9pm Update 86
Winter Storm Continues Across The Tri State- 6pm Update 240
Global Warming? 127
Prolonged Snowstorm Begins- 8pm Update 665
Winter Storm Alert- 10pm Update 231
Winter Storm Threat Continues- 7pm Update 111
Late Weekend Winter Storm THREAT- 1pm Update 101
Watching The Next Snow Threat- 1pm Update 104
A Wicked and Wintry Wednesday- 6pm Update 185
Why I Love Winter! 102
Tri State Winter Storm Tracker-9:45pm Update 435
More to Come 56
Winter Storm Alert- 10:30pm Update 224
No Time To Rest On Old Man Winter- 6pm Update 82
Winter Storm Update- 4pm Update 413
Winter Storm To Slam The Tri State- 6pm Update 358
Winter Storm To Hit Friday and Saturday- 10:30PM Update 120
Winter Storm Threat- 8pm Update 109
Wicked Winter Pattern Taking Shape 5pm Update 103
Welcome To February! 9pm Update 67
Another Storm Next Week? 87
Snowstorm In Progress- 6pm Update 381
Winter Storm Moves In Late Today 5:30pm Update 142
Winter Storm To Impact The Tri State 6pm Update 121
Winter Storm Threat Continues 9pm Update 129
Winter Storm Threat Continues- 8pm Update 108
Late Week Winter Storm Threat 78
SEND US YOUR PICTURES AND VIDEOS INCLUDING BREAKING NEWS AND SEVERE WEATHER
WSAZ.com Sponsor Sections & Links
Healthy Tri-State
Cabell Huntington Hospital and the Huntington YMCA are helping you to live a healthier lifestyle
Healthy Connections Healthy Connections
Find a local health professional
WV Lottery
Nightly drawings and numbers
SOMC
Very good things are happening here
Moms4Moms presented by McDonald's
A collection of resources here to help Moms weather the daily storms that come along with parenting.
Big Sandy
For all your furniture and appliance needs