WV State Employee Salaries Now Posted for 2007
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Posted: 1:17 PM Feb 20, 2008
 Last Updated: 8:12 AM Feb 21, 2008
 Reporter: Mike Waterhouse
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The West Virginia State Auditor's office has released the 2007 salaries for state employees, and the website offers new search features.

The listing is now searchable by name -- and allows you to sort salaries by department. Last year, visitor's to the site had to download an Adobe Acrobat PDF file and search within that document.

Communications director for State Auditor Glen Gainer's Office says they wanted to make the database easier for end users and reduce the download time.

There are records listed for 66,075 state employees, totaling $1,509,774,134.79.

You'll want to keep in mind that the salaries are pre-tax -- so it's not actually what the employees take home.

Click here to search the database.
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Posted by: Max on Dec 11, 2008 at 01:40 PM
Many years ago, for a brief time, I was a state employee making a pitiful 17k a year. Since that time, when I began working in the private sector, I now make 70k a year and have excellent benefits because I made the choice to seek better opportunities for myself. In my experience, State workers are some of the least educated and laziest people out there. Complaining about the pay or about it being posted online is pointless because you made the choice to become public servants so shut up and do your jobs. I enjoy a good laugh when I look at the pitiful pay of my former co-workers who still work for the State and think about how the salaries being posted has set off a firestorm of jealousy and anger among state workers. So pathetic.
Posted by: kenny on Nov 17, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Why should state workers get all holidays off? They are no better yhan any other worker.
Posted by: Melissa on Jun 24, 2008 at 09:54 PM
I dont work for the state and I for 1 feel that it is none of anyones business what each person makes. And I make the same if not more than most of these people working elsewhere.
Posted by: Concerned on Apr 1, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Absolutely, the states salaries should be listed. I for one am sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the taxes I have to pay.
Posted by: Ruth on Mar 14, 2008 at 11:39 PM
For those wondering how many men/women "actually" work for what they're paid, consider this. If 6 men/women worked throwing 300 degree asphalt in the blazing summer sun for 8 hrs then those 6 would be depleted of energy. However, if 3 worked while 3 rested, the work could continue unimpeded. Also, would you bust your buttons for a salary of minimum wage or just above? That goes for the DoH worker out there clearing roads, same pay as above, until all hours just so you can drive the next day safely. Instead of griping about how things are done, why don't you apply for a job & find out first hand just how "easy" it is. I'm sure you'd not lower your standards to work the multiple hours overtime for the minuscule pay & be happy about it. Working in the summer or in the winter are not easy jobs, but the public demands it be done; the public needs to see just how low the salaries are for the jobs they demand be done.
Posted by: Ruth on Mar 14, 2008 at 02:53 AM
It is a problem pay grades are posted because it creates tension among workers who are making less than the person in the next office. The pay grade reflects testing, college degrees, experience, etc. What the posted salaries don't reflect is how much is taken out of each paycheck for taxes, insurance, retirement, etc.; my husband does NOT bring home what is posted!! No one does! The fact the pay is listed for all to read is because salaries are taken from state taxes; WE ALL pay taxes, including those such as my husband who works for the DoH. We all pay the taxes that make the paychecks possible; the salary comes from each of us & therefore it is considered public knowledge/access. ALL WV State employees need a pay raise; they work for next to nothing & receive little or no appreciation from the state gvt. for the work they do & their expertise. The Governor & his friends do not care about the state employee!
Posted by: Brenda on Mar 12, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Hey BillB LEARN TO WRITE PLEASE I can see why you don't work for the state. lmao
Posted by: John on Mar 9, 2008 at 11:25 AM
I am a worker at MMBH. The "salaries" you see on this website are what state employees made in 2007. This number accommodates overtime ; this is not the pay we make for a year of 40 hour weeks. If someone would look at what I made last year, they may think I make "great" money. I do the job I enjoy & I care for my patients, as do the other employees here. I, myself, NEED to work a tremendous amount of overtime just to pay bills. The public needs to know that we are mandated to work overtime and we get in trouble if we do not work that overtime. In essence, this is forced overtime. The reason I and my co-workers continue to work this job is that we like the job, not the pay. If we only came for a pay check (or amount of pay) we would not provide the quality care these mental patients need. You would not want us to provide the care the state actually PAYS for. I love my patients and I give them the best care, which they deserve, that I can during very stressful times.
Posted by: BillB on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:30 AM
To Phil:What any public employee is paid is my business. When you start paying me from public funds I will post what I make. As for as I know it is public info in every state. I don't know if any more states post if but all should.
Posted by: SHERRY on Mar 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM
TRISH, YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT MARSHALL IS PAYING THEIR COACHES......TAKE A LOOK UP NORTH AT SOUTHERN PITTSBURGH OR I MEAN WVU......LIKE WHEN ROD LEFT I SAID I BET MANY GOOD MORAL PROFESSORS LEFT AND NOBODY CARED......BUT HE LEAVES AND ALL HECK BREAKS LOOSE...YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE PRIORITIES BUT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE....1/2 A MILLION IS NOTHING TO THE OTHER SCHOOL...AND LETS COMPARE BASKETBALL SALARIES.....OH AND TEST SCORES..........
Posted by: Phil on Mar 7, 2008 at 06:10 PM
I don't work for the state and never have. I think it is wrong to post peoples wages for the world to see. What I make is my business and what you make is your business, there should be some respect for peoples privacy
Posted by: Jamie on Mar 5, 2008 at 09:15 PM
I am concerned for the safety of our children getting on and off of a school bus. I've seen this happen many times when picking my child up from the bus stop on rt 34 in Hurricane. Maybe West Virginia law makers should consider all school buses need to be equipped with cameras and vehicles having to have a license plate on the front of the car as well as the back so we can fine these idiots who don't obey the law. And, if the same offenders keep doing it repeatedly, give them the same punishment as drunk drivers..jail and license suspension. Something needs to be done before another child dies.
Posted by: George on Mar 1, 2008 at 07:46 PM
I would like to know the number of hours actually worked for the money made. Also, DOH workers should have to earn their raises if they want one, how many times do you pass a job on the road where there are five or six people 'supervising' the job and one or two actually working. The ones actually doing the work should be getting the money. I see this all the time.
Posted by: Trish on Mar 1, 2008 at 04:40 AM
Marshall is paying the football coach a half million. Many professors are making a tenth of that. I'm glad the university has it's priorities straight. God forbid they be competitive in academics!
Posted by: MG on Feb 29, 2008 at 04:09 PM
Terry, I figure the state lists your gross pay. Your w-2 figure could be different if you are enrolled in a 401K, have health insurance premiums, or a FSA account. Things like that are subtracted from your gross so it is not taxed. You probably have 2 different incomes on your w-2. I would think a state house worker should know this. I hope you don't work for the tax dept.
Posted by: Terry on Feb 29, 2008 at 08:48 AM
I would like to know why my W2 and what the state auditor office has on the internet is a totally different number I want my extra $996. that they list me making. This always shows state employees making more than they actually do, they need to get their facts straight.
Posted by: Pam on Feb 28, 2008 at 08:58 PM
Are the senators that are running for president still being paid their salaries, as if they were in DC working? We are in the midst of a recession, jobs are few and far between in this area and a recession is in the making. You have people donating hundreds of dollars per person per month to support a candidate who is raking in 30 - 50 million dollars/month in campaign funds. There is really something wrong with the picture here! There should be a cap on cammpaign spending so that everyone would have a chance for office. We don't have the choice of the best person, we have a choice of the richest! HOW CAN WE PUT THE BEST PERSON IN OFFICE?
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 28, 2008 at 09:16 AM
I think it was wrong for WV to post this for everyone to see. I do not work for the state but I can see where people would get upset about this beeing posted! If they really wanted to post this, they should have posted the position and amount paid. You shouldn't have named each person. Thats just wrong!
Posted by: Dawn on Feb 27, 2008 at 10:55 PM
This is TOOOO funny, looks like the workers at the local welfare office needs assistance themselves. BUMS! I just had to post this, as they treated me like total crap when i went to get help during my divorce a few years back. Its funny how they make NOTHING,but act like their crap doesnt stink, FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY!!!
Posted by: B on Feb 27, 2008 at 06:56 AM
Terra I don’t know what dept you work for but in most state dept your supervisor is to keep up with their time. If you have a problem with what is going on go to them. And as for them taken all that time off just to let you know if you have a lot of annul leave time you got to take it or you lose it. Like for my husband and me we take 3 a year. We put the time in for it that’s why it’s given to us. You just don’t get all that time for the nothing. You got to work for it. My family has been working for the state for 30 years. I know how most of it goes. Just wondering how do you know they are not turning in their time?
Posted by: STEVE on Feb 27, 2008 at 06:38 AM
I would like to know how a state employee who makes 62,000 a year, has time to work part-time for the local media.
Posted by: jim on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Teacher in Lincoln Co. is state paid bub, WVDOH is one check from welfair. Gov, have not gave wvdoh a raise every year but one that insur, took !
Posted by: terra on Feb 26, 2008 at 03:48 PM
I'm a state worker and what kills me is the people in my office who never show up for work or turn in their time. Most of them take vacation about 5 times a year. Come on people I've worked for 8 years and can barely keep time, I guess because I'm honest. I've had one raise in that time 5%. Wow. I think all offices need to put in a time clock. Employees that are suppose to be at work at 7 usually show up 30 minutes late, no wonder state employees have a bad reputation.
Posted by: Voter on Feb 25, 2008 at 09:59 AM
I don't really care what they make. I do however think there are entirely too many employees. I would like to see where all of the state funds go. I'm sure we would be shocked to see the waste going on up there.
Posted by: dave on Feb 25, 2008 at 08:53 AM
What DMV are you people talking about? The DMV in Kananwha City is open until 6 PM. It's open on Saturdays too. 8-6 Monday-Saturday.
Posted by: state worker on Feb 24, 2008 at 08:40 PM
Yes, if you are in the doors before they close at 5:00 and you have what you need at that time, you will be waited on. There are only a few situations in which you could not be fully taken care of that day.
Posted by: DSH on Feb 24, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Welfare Mom--I don't have any family or friends around to watch my children. I use the LINK program to help pay for day care while I work. I do not feel sorry for you! If you do not work, it is because you choose not to. FYI-If you are looking for a job go across the bridge to Ohio, their minimum wage is $7.00 per hour. Even if you work at McDonald's, at least you are doing something for your family.
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 24, 2008 at 01:33 PM
Why is everyone asking about HPD and teacher salaries? What is so hard to understand about state salaries. HPD would be city and teachers would be county. This is exactly why I did not choose to work for the state when I graduated 2 years ago with a Civil Engineering degree. Not because my salary would be posted online, but because of how grossly underpaid state employees are. How is it that I can work in the same city doing the same thing as other people I graduated with and in 2 years be making 20,000 more a year than what they make? Of that is not the definition of grossly underpaid I don't know what is.
Posted by: VALERIE on Feb 24, 2008 at 06:15 AM
The DMV regional office that I use post their hours 830am-5pm but if you go in at 430pm, they tell you that the office is ready to close, come back tomorrow. If 100 customers are still in line at 459pm, will they stay open till all customers are waited on ?
Posted by: another state worker on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM
The website has the correct hours of operation, but the signs posted on location are not up to date. This has been incorrect since either the Wise or Underwood administration when state offices were required to be open until at least 5p.m. During this administration, however, we have managed to change our welcome to WV signs to "Open for Business" and we are in the process of changing them back to "Wild and Wonderful." I am sure that this cost is posted somewhere. But how expensive would it really be to change a couple of signs (which are probably smaller) that can be manufactured inside the same building?
Posted by: What is your life worth? on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM
This site intrigued me because a State Trooper was killed in the line of duty last year and I wanted to know how much money he he made. $43,979.30 What a shame...
Posted by: Big Dave on Feb 23, 2008 at 07:40 PM
Welfare Mom, if you're cute I'll let you come live with me. I'm a coal miner and make good money. I need a woman to cook and clean for me among other things. The kids will have to stay in the shed.
Posted by: state workers on Feb 23, 2008 at 07:28 PM
Maxine: Yes, we work a full forty hours a week. And I am not sure where you got your hours from, but as posted most DMV offices are open from 8:30 to 5:00. Ty this link: http://www.wva.state.wv.us/wvdot/dmv/office.aspx?id=7
Posted by: Welfare Mom on Feb 23, 2008 at 07:25 PM
DSH, it's a little easier with friends and family nearby. I don't have that where I'm at.
Posted by: jim on Feb 23, 2008 at 03:35 PM
WV. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. WVDOH ARE THE LOWEST PAY STATE WORKER IN WV. WE ARE ONE CHECK FROM WELFARE. YOU DO THE MATH.
Posted by: DSH on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Welfare Mom-I am raising two children of my own without any help from their father. I do understand. The difference is I chose to do something about it. I got a job. I did receive a welfare check for one month, and decided that I wanted to do better than that for my family. I work every day. You can work, and still receive food stamps and medical cards. I see nothing wrong with 'HELP' from the welfare if you also contribute to the household income. So, don't say I don't understand how it feels, I do, and I didn't like it so I did something about it.
Posted by: Wondering on Feb 23, 2008 at 08:11 AM
With all the privacy laws in effect, how come they can't just post the position/office and not the name? Maybe that would be a little more private. Just a thought.
Posted by: State Police Civilian on Feb 23, 2008 at 08:10 AM
There is plenty of money for State Troopers to get automatic raises every year then, they also receive the skimpy 3.5% all state employees receive. It seems trooper should get one or the other, getting both seems like double dipping to me. Civilians need raises too, we make far less and do more work.
Posted by: tj on Feb 23, 2008 at 07:56 AM
I think all of the elected officials should be paid what the average wage is, in their district. Then if they want a raise, maybe, just maybe they will work to bring true jobs to our area, as opposed to these low paing 8-10 dollar an hour jobs. i would like to see all of the elected people have to actually work to get a pay raise as opposed to just signing a bill. If the average wage in Wayne county is 13k then that is all the legislative people should get. This of course needs to be pro-rated for 2-3 months work. Oh what a dream...an elected official truly working for a constituent.....sorry, I must have forgotten how the system truly works. My suggestion should go all the way from city commisioners to the president of the US. Then we will see how many jobs go oversea's.
Posted by: MAXINE on Feb 23, 2008 at 07:01 AM
To State Worker: I meant DMV. I was not spouting off. I did my homework and the DMV is not opened more than 8 hours a day. They are opened M-F 830am-430pm. That is 8 hours a day. If you are opened longer than that, why aren't the hours posted and someone needs to let the DMV offices at the capitol know. If some employees are arriving for work one hour after opening, then why are they being paid for a 40 hour week and only working 35 hours ? The other thing that really bothers me about the comments made, are by state workers who complain about how low they are paid and how hard it is to raise a family with having to pay taxes, health insurance and such. Then why don't these employees find another job. We have all at one time had to deal with employees at offices, stores or wherever who give poor service to the customers since they are mad at their employer for not paying them more. I hope you are not one of those employees.
Posted by: lady on Feb 23, 2008 at 06:36 AM
Can anyone tell me why HPD and teacher salaries are not posted?
Posted by: Janette on Feb 23, 2008 at 02:22 AM
I'm a BOE employee, our pay isn't that bad compaired to other Agencys. This is because the teachers/other BOE employees have been more vocial as a groop, sticking up for themselvs. Paying an employee a living wage isn't much to ask for, when necessary duties are done. My heart goes out to all workers in this State, my friends and neighbors! We need a watch dog groop in this State in the worse kind of way! Don't expect our political leaders to do anything for you! Most run to get on the news when a disaster happens or when some of us gets killed in the mines. They have proven over time what their interest are. They love you when they want your vote and after the election it's business as usual! They are proof what people will do for money and power! How low can you go Joe! I pray God will Protect us from these deamons.
Posted by: David on Feb 23, 2008 at 02:01 AM
Some of you are being a little harsh on welfare mom. She seems to realize she made a mistake with some of her choices. It's hard to dig yourself out of a hole once it's been dug. To melissa, maybe you should get your husband/boyfriend/significant other to help out. Sounds like you have a full plate. Doesn't give the right to insult others though. All home makers don't sit on the ___ all day. You sound very bitter and are probably frigid.
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 23, 2008 at 12:13 AM
I can see by reading these comments that, the state workers and the public in general don't realize where the real problems are. The State Workers in WV are grossly under paid and so are most poor working taxpayers! This Governor has set up big contractors tied with controlling politics, in State job positions, put unqualified clones in higher positions! This is premeditated to take State Workers jobs and give them to their big business friends, at the cost of poor workers and their little childern's lively-hoods! They have gutted most State Agencys already, like the DOH and Workers Comp. Hundreds of the best qualified State workers and engineers have already quit due to the pay and unjustified pressure from these people! Four more years of this? God have Mercy on WV!
Posted by: state workers on Feb 22, 2008 at 05:15 PM
To Maxine: I have never heard of the DVM, but I do know of a state office in Huntington that runs seven windows and two other counters, with only 16 employees. Not all 16 employees arrive at the same time because the office is open for more than 8 hours. Some of the employees arrive over an hour after opening. If they arrive before their scheduled shift, they may smoke outside, eat breakfast, or tidy their workstations as they desire. They are not being paid yet. And while you were waiting, there were probably only 2 or 3 windows open to serve the 15 people waiting. So before you spout off to the newstations comment line. Do your homework.
Posted by: Comment on Feb 22, 2008 at 04:13 PM
Welfare Mom: I was trying to be helpful, not offensive. It sounds like you do have a hard time and just need some help getting on your feet. Express your interest at the DHHR and they should be able to point you in the right direction. Good luck. :)
Posted by: H on Feb 22, 2008 at 03:09 PM
Welfare mom is a fake anyways. A single person with three kids makes upwards of $20000 a year, so get your amounts correct. Anyways that is still double what I make working. Good ole' WV- they don't pay ANYONE enough (excluding welfare because it needs to be phased out. It was set up as temporary to begin with DECADES ago.) but yeah WV, they don't pay you enough so thatthe average West Virginian CANT relocate to a better city.
Posted by: Melissa on Feb 22, 2008 at 02:51 PM
TO Welfare mom: YOu made as much as I did last year sitting on your A___ I got up evrey morning, got my son off to school, went and argued with people all day about them not following the laws, then come home deal with troubles from the homefront, school, homework, bills, etc, fixed dinner, then do housework, make sure everyone has everything ready for the next day, FALL into bed to start over again the next day...so DO NOT act like a poor me, feel sorry for me !!! My mother raised me with a drunk for a husband, getting beat everday and working...so poor you if you couldn't afford the baby sitter then GET FIXED welfare will pay for it for you also !!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 22, 2008 at 02:43 PM
yea if u have kids and cant afford them..you shouldve thought about all that before u had them. thats all welfare people want to do..have kids and let everyone else pay for them and watch them while the parents are out gettin drunk and high. im over them
Posted by: welfare mom on Feb 22, 2008 at 02:37 PM
DSH, the background check reference I made was that the person who volunteered to babysit would have to pass a background check. I'll check into the program you were talking about. I would rather work. You people don't know the feeling of having to cash that welfare check and buy food with food stamps. I thought my fiance would be with me forever. Turns out he met another woman and left. He hasn't seen the kids since. He moved out of state and we can't track him down to make him pay child support. Some people on welfare probably do take advantage of the system, but I don't. I had always planned on going to college, but got pregnant with my first shortly after high school. I have no family close, so there's no help watching the kids. Young girls, take my advice: go to college and get an education. Don't believe what your boyfriends tell you. You can't depend on another, you need to take care of yourself first. I love my kids and don't regret how things worked out, but sometimes its hard.
Posted by: Comment on Feb 22, 2008 at 01:54 PM
To Welfare Mom: If you live in WV - Connect Child care pays babysitting fees for people who work or go to college. Maybe you can go to school? Assistance is for people who are trying to better themselves.I am sure you could get a grant and get off the system, if you wanted to. I am a single mom of 4 and pull 50 hrs. a week as an Office Manager, and it took me 7 years to get a degree, but I had to do what was best for my kids. YOu could also do medical billing from home, open an at home daycare, deliver newspapers(take kids with you)...so there are accommodating jobs out there if you really want to work and get off the system.
Posted by: Private Sector on Feb 22, 2008 at 01:43 PM
The thing I fear about the postings are cyber-criminals. It wouldn't take much to steal these people's identities.
Posted by: DJ on Feb 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I am a state worker. If you look at the "salaries" on this list, they are not really true. Our salaries are for working 40 hours/ week. The numbers you see on the website are the W-2 wages... which includes overtime *this is not just voluntary overtime, it is MANDATORY*. We come to work for 8 hours and find out we have to work 12 or 16 hours that day. And if we decline the mandatory overtime, we get into trouble.
Posted by: FYI on Feb 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Some of the salaries on here are not for working, some of these are only vacation pay.
Posted by: state employee on Feb 22, 2008 at 09:31 AM
to Welfare Mom you make more than some state workers pulling 40 hrs..fact
Posted by: More Public Info on Feb 22, 2008 at 09:02 AM
This should keep you busy for a while...Wanna know how much state agencies pay to vendors? Wanna know how much employees were reimbursed for travel expences, etc? Go to www.wvsao.gov On the side, click on Electronic payments. Then click on Track Payments. When the page opens, click on Global Payment Search. Then type in a last name and search. This is what your state auditor's office is paying out. This is also public information.
Posted by: DSH on Feb 22, 2008 at 07:58 AM
This is to Welfare Mom--I get so tired of hearing that people can't afford daycare, If you are on welfare, then you should be aware of the LINK program through the welfare. It will pay for most of the daycare cost for a low income family. There is no excuse for not working. There are a lot of jobs around here that don't require a background check either. But I guess if you are so lazy and just don't want to work any excuse is better than none. What do you plan to do when the kids grow up and the welfare stops? Have more babies? Stop making excuses, call LINK and GET A JOB!!!
Posted by: Ohio on Feb 22, 2008 at 07:53 AM
You guys should come to Ohio. I just got an entry-level job with the state of Ohio right out of college, and I start at $34,000.
Posted by: anonymous on Feb 22, 2008 at 07:22 AM
Way to go B! Be sure to ask for a discount on our taxes like retail gets on what they buy. Oh, yes, I think all of the businesses need to take a look and see if they have too many employees. After all, restaurants should be able to run with 2 employees...one to cook and one to serve. Plants don't need that many people...5 or 6 should be able to run the whole place. See how absurd that is? Geez!
Posted by: B on Feb 22, 2008 at 05:28 AM
ATTENTION ALL state employees we have been going about this all the wrong way for higher pay. Since people say it’s their taxes being used to pay us. Maybe they need to pay higher taxes then we would get better pay. I think I may call the capital tomorrow and see if they can do that for us. You can thank me later
Posted by: B on Feb 22, 2008 at 04:47 AM
I don't mind saying what my husband makes. Every two weeks he gets $550.00. That is after paying for HEALTH INS, EYE INS, AND DEMT INS and TAX LETS NOT FOR GET THEY PAY TAX TO. So if you think that $550.00 EVERY TWO WEEKS is good money your wrong. He has been there 12 years.So lets see if you can make it on that much money.My DAD works for the state also has been there 30 years and don't make much more than my husband does.SO WE CAN CRY ABOUT IT ALL WE WANT TO.And Chris not all state road workers are like that. When your at home in bed a sleep like tonight. My husband is at work because of ice or snow.Trying to make sure your not one of the ones that call in saying my raod has ice or snow all over it and it needs salted.
Posted by: Welfare Mom on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:50 PM
I make $15312 in welfare each year. I would work, but my baby's daddy left us and I can't afford daycare. If anyone wants to volunteer to watch my three kids I'll gladly go back to the workforce. You must pass a background check first. I'll pay $5 an hour off the books.
Posted by: Leeroy Jankins on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I made $62,198 last year. I'm not ashamed to post my measly amount. I manage a telemarketing center in Huntington.
Posted by: greg on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:23 PM
And to think Manchin wanted to require our brighter students to stay in the state, make beans, then have it posted so everyone could see how little you make.
Posted by: Joe on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:46 PM
This is funny actually,I make more working in retail as a associate then alot of these people on the list!
Posted by: Elaine on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:08 PM
It amazes me that folks say they "pay" state employee's salary. Guess I am paying for half my own salary. If people think they are paying my salary then they should only deserve .10 cents of service from me per year! When they apply for FREE benefits or services that COST the State of West Virginia HUNDREDS per individual. We sure don't seem to be afforded the same privacy that we extend to our customers though. For those that think State Employees are overpaid with nice easy 9-5 jobs. I say shoot you apply for one then and see what its like
Posted by: chris on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:39 PM
State Employees are not the only ones who make less money here!!! I could leave the state and increase my salary by nearly 50% tomorrow.
Posted by: JIM on Feb 21, 2008 at 07:47 PM
ERIC, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. WVDOH ARE THE LOWEST PAY STATE WORKER IN WV. WE ARE ONE CHECK FROM WELFARE. YOU DO THE MATH.
Posted by: eric on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:27 PM
I wonder how many of those 65000 are state road workers parked up a hollow or beside the road asleep?
Posted by: Carol A on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:14 PM
I see that some people suggest post the position and then put the salary - that would be a big no no - there are some of us that have more years experience than others doing the same job and making more money. Also, our office assistant's are paid below the poverty level
Posted by: Carol on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:11 PM
It is embarrassing for other people to know how little some of us make - almost a disgrace
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 05:52 PM
i wonder how many man hours it took to input everything into the computer for all to see. it should not be posted for all to see.
Posted by: T on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:52 PM
I make more than my ex does.
Posted by: Jason on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Did anyone noitice that the people who make the most money are the ones who do the least. I would like to see the sick days taken by the workers compared to the office personnel. Let's post that!!!
Posted by: chris on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:28 PM
We need to know where our tax money is being spent. Also, it seems that state employees think that they are the only ones who are underpaid compared to the rest of the country! Where is Manchin sticking up for the rest of us??? How about a few more holidays for the rest of us?
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:26 PM
I dont think the people names should been listed. I woudlnt want ones to know that. They could have put positions and not names.
Posted by: Melinda on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:23 PM
I totally disagree with posting these salaries for everyone to see. This is such an invasion of privacy. At least take the names off of it. Why does everyone have to be so nosey. It's none of anybody's business what someone else makes!
Posted by: Stu G. G. on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Why are people still complaining about this AGAIN this year? State employee salaries are public information. If one were so inclined, one could go to the WV state auditor and pick up a hard copy to view, just like in the years before the internet. It should not matter that it is online. I for one am happy that the auditor posts this information for easy viewing. If you do not like that state salaries are available online, you can work in a private sector or change the constitution. It seems both are equally simple to accomplish.
Posted by: WV Relative on Feb 21, 2008 at 03:58 PM
I have a family member working for the state. That person makes below the poverty level. Shame on our government. That person has been there for almost 30 years. I can't believe that you would make more working in a fast food place with tips. Does the Government read this, OH I forgot don't mess with their minds, we may have to pay for their pysc care.
Posted by: Mary on Feb 21, 2008 at 02:54 PM
Your photographer was at the Chas. Civic Center last Friday night for the MSAC Night of Champions. During halftime, the MSAC honored academic athletes from each school, these are the students from each school that also participate in sports, maintaining a very high or perfect grade point average. Each student was well deserving of the award and was introduced and given a special framed certificate. Very nice as people sometimes forget that academics is even more important than athletics. But your camera man ignored the academic athletes, and was instead filming a section of students all wearing sunglasses! Sad but this shows the priorities for news stories. Those academic athletes, have to work really hard, sometimes doing homework very late at night because they just got in from a ballgame or a practice, they deserved the recognition. Shame on you1
Posted by: jimmy on Feb 21, 2008 at 02:30 PM
Is the charleston city police paid by taxpayer dollars and if so where do you find the listing for those salaries
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 02:12 PM
http://php.app.com/feds06/search.php Go to this website and search Federal salaries in 2006:) Much higher than the state!
Posted by: MAXINE on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:52 PM
I have to agree with Chris (2/21 855am) why are there 66,000 state employees ? Last week, I was at the DVM in Huntington and had to wait 38 minutes (I timed it) before my number was called to come up to a window to conduct my business. There were probably 15 people in the waiting area and I counted 18 employees behind the counter. Several employees were at their desk eating fast food breakfast. One lady was sitting at her desk changing around picture frames of either her children or grandchildren. On my way in the building, two employees were at the side of the building smoking..when I left they were still outside smoking. It couldn't have been their morning break or lunch, since the office had only be opened one hour so far.
Posted by: dave on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Ok. Here's my personal info. I'm a cartographer. I'm college educated. I make $11.00 an hour. I currently don't have a wife or girlfriend. I've never been to jail. I drive a camaro. I don't go to church. I like to watch sit-coms and sports. I have blue eyes. I also have hemmoroids. Anything else you want to know?
Posted by: lady on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:44 PM
Why are teachers & HPD not posted but all others are or at least seem to be? To be honest I disagree with the postings but if some are gonna be posted then all should be posted.
Posted by: Sue on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:41 PM
If you want to see how your job measures up to others around the country salary wise, take a look at O*Net http://online.onetcenter.org/
Posted by: Sue on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:39 PM
Let's talk about the private sector. I give my money a business. Part of that money goes to operating expenses which includes salaries. Therefore, I should know where my money is going. Not all of your tax money goes to paying state employees salaries just like not all of my money goes to operating expenses. I fail to see the point. Businesses need to be more transparent and many of them are when they release their budgets. Of course, budgets are not as easy to search and they don't have names. And it isn't just as easy as finding a job in the private sector. Many individuals have their pensions wrapped up in the state. There are many reasons that people stay with an otherwise crappy job. You weigh the pros and the cons. About writing ability. This isn't exactly a scholarly journal so I am thinking that there are people who are not paying attention to their writing skills. I would be cautious about judging someone's abilities based on what you find on a message board.
Posted by: Pensy on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:32 PM
A system that disdains the people who actually perform the work rarely prospers. The salaries of West Virginia's state employees are a national disgrace while our governor spends tax money like a drunken sailor on his own luxuries. Our public workers are the lowest paid in entire U.S. and our legislature is among the highest paid. It's embarassing. We're never going to be competitive until we act like something other than a third-world dictatorship. Arizona does not even provide a residence (much less a palace)for their governor and that state is growing and getting richer every year.
Posted by: State Employee on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:05 PM
John...I know I can probably obtain a copy of the Federal budget but I don't remember seeing it posted on any news website for public viewing. Even if it was just like with the state how do you know what the total taxes were? How would you do the math to figure out to see if you are being ripped off by both the state and/or the Federal Government if you don't know how much was brought in or paid out to do the math to see if the records are even correct? Yes, I know I don't have to work for the state but I choose to since most private companies insurance is not as good as what I have with the state. Also, in one way or another,like it or not, you are supported by my tax dollars as well. For example alot of private companies are given tax breaks for doing or keeping their business in WV. If it weren't for that tax break from the State Government some private business's would go under or may not be able to give their employees raises or even be able to provide health insurance.
Posted by: Me on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I love to read these things. No wonder nobody in this state can make any money. You can barely write. WV has below average educational attainment and per capita income levels. There is no reason for state employees to make the national average when nobody else in the state is. Government is designed to be transparent. If you don't want people to know your salary, work in the private sector.
Posted by: Another state worker on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I have no objections to salaries being posted, but I don't think it is right to put names with the salaries. Let us have a list of all welfare recipients names and how much they get. Melissa forgot to mention that by working in Charleston we also have the "privilege" of paying a user fee to work here. Also, the teachers salaries should be posted----by name!
Posted by: dave on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Wow. Talk about being nosy..... I have too many problems of my own than to worry about what other people make. I don't care about other peoples paychecks. I care about mine.
Posted by: Sue on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:11 AM
To State Worker a little farther down the list: If you are going to post tenure and qualifications then you are also going to have to post hours worked. There are state positions (such as those in health care) that are hourly. You have nurses (with AAs and BAs) working 70 hours a week then they are going to make alot of money, and probably more than a psychologist with an MA or a PhD who works during the day for a set amount of hours. That is just an example but do you see my point? Alot goes into what people make. And remember this isn't what someone is taking home. So depending on how much you pay in insurance, pension, etc it really can vary widely. Another possible senerio would be a single person paying for all their own insurance, etc compared to a married person who is on their spouse's insurance. The gross amount the single person is higher but in the end they are paying out more and taking home less than the married person.
Posted by: Another State Employee on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:09 AM
When I started this state job I made $12,000 per year... 18 years later I'm making $30,000 per year at same job of course my job duties have changed somewhat but are basically the same. It's my opinion that state workers are grossly underpaid and usually overworked. 18 years ago I qualifed for public assistance although I was working for the state full-time.... WV state workers aren't getting paid nowhere near what they should. I think it's time for the WV Political BigWigs to adjust WV State Workers Salaries to where they should be!
Posted by: kevin on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:00 AM
the gov is to be paid 95,000 a year that is his set pay but for some reason he is 8 cent short, why because that keeps him from the higher taxs bracket, wish we could all do that. also look at what eles he gets, free housing, vehicles, planes, trips, etc.
Posted by: John on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:54 AM
State employee, you can get a copy of the federal budget and see where the tax money is spent with the excepion of secret ops. You can also get the salary of Federal Gov employees wih the excepion of certain employees in the clandestine services. This information has been available for years. There is a reason goverment employees are classified as public. Those of us in the private sector, since we are not paid and supported by tax dollars, are not subject to those same rules. If you wish, you may leave goverment employment and work in the private sector. No one is forcing you to work for the state.
Posted by: ?? on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:40 AM
To Sue: Which anon comment were you commenting on?
Posted by: Sue on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Anonymous: Here is the bio on the individual you selected. He is worth what he is paid because he is still making less than what he could in the private sector: Dr. Richard Crout serves as the Associate Dean for Research, Professor in the Department of Periodontics, and Professor of Biochemistry in the School of Medicine. He has been employed by the SOD for 26 years. He holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Biology, Master of Science and Doctorate degrees in Pharmacology, and a Doctorate of Dental Medicine from the University of Pittsburgh. He has been awarded a certificate from the General Practice Residency Program at Montefiore Hospital in Pittsburgh and a certificate in Periodontics from the University of Pittsburgh. Dr. Crout directs WV efforts on a seven year, 7.6 million dollar collaborative NIH study with the University of Pittsburgh entitled "Genetic Factors Contributing to Oral Health Disparities in Appalachia". He finds great satisfaction working with multiple faculty
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:20 AM
WAH!! WAH!!! WAH!! You state workers don't have a clue what underpaid is!!! You get every other day off and PAID for it!! Work a minimum wage job then you really will whine when gas is 3.00-4.00 per gallon. How much do you take home then!! Grow Up. For the most part you are all overpaid. You're not the only people who deal with rude stinky people!!!
Posted by: State Employee on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:49 AM
This is to address the ones who claim their taxes pay the salary of the state employees and that you have the right to know where your money is going.....we as state employees pay taxes also....wonder where our taxes are going? You and I both pay Federal taxes also but I don't ever recall seeing a report from the United States President's office showing us where our Federal tax dollars are going, do you? You my friends are just nosey people wanting to know how much money your friends are making. Some people don't want their business publicized no matter how much they make. So do you go around telling people how much money you make? If not, why don't you? Shouldn't it be everyone's business to know how much you make since we probably pay your salary as well?
Posted by: Disgusted on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:33 AM
I do not work for the state, but I think that it is a shame that these salaries are displayed for everyone's viewing. It might be public information but it should only be "public" if you have a need to know. From some of the comments posted most of you "don't need to know". Some people live off welfare and don't need to, why don't we highlight how much they are making????
Posted by: nobody important on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:28 AM
why should anyone see what others are making state employees or not they should be entiltled to some privacy. No I dont work for the state and I dont really care what they make it isn't my business and shouldn't be anyone else's.. Do we not have more important things to be concerned with...
Posted by: chris on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:55 AM
Could someone please explain why we need 66,000 state employees??? Also, does WV still pave roads? We probably drive on the worst roads in the country...they can't even patch a pothole correctly, many times they end up making them worse.
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:54 AM
This is personal information that no one needs to know! How about all of you that aren't state employees post yours on here! Let us know what you are making.
Posted by: George on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Has anyone ever been to state office and tried to deal with one of these employees? Example DMV The tax payers are not getting a good value for their dollar
Posted by: State worker on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:18 AM
I have no problem with salaries being posted, but as someone else suggested, post the tenure and qualifications of workers, and you will see the inequities. Our agency has secretaries and assistants making more than those who are required to have Master's degrees!!! Oh and I do not agree with bringing back merit raises- they were given to buddies and there was no true "merit" system to determine who received them. State workers need a system built in that rewards peformance (not with extra work), tenure, and education and continuing prefessional development.
Posted by: anon on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:44 AM
Why not post what welfare people receive and don't even have to work.
Posted by: DOH Employee on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:42 AM
When people start griping about the Highway Division, please remember that the decisions about what roads get paved and fixed are made at a much higher level than the men and women you see on the highway. You gripe isn't with a $20,000 employee. We are just doing what we can with what we're given. As you can now see, that isn't a whole lot. PS: It doesn't bother me if everyone knows what I make. I figure it isn't going to be fixed until people get ticked off enough. Seeing it in black and white sure ticks me off.
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:27 AM
Check out how many Manchins are on the list. Interesting that Mark at the DOE makes a higher salary than the Governor. Looks like education is the industry to be in!
Posted by: lucy on Feb 21, 2008 at 05:56 AM
I have been employed by the state for over 12 years. Daily I am exposed to smelly and rude people. Trust me, my mere salary does not come close to compensating me. The number of days off including holidays, sick and annual don't conpensate either. Oh yes, I am looking for employment elsewhere. I am glad these salaries have been posted, it shows how underpayed,some not all,state employees are payed. And,if the employees deal with the public daily the salaries need to be revamped.
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 03:46 AM
AT LEAST THEY WORK AND ARE NOT ON WELFARE
Posted by: lady on Feb 21, 2008 at 02:23 AM
I noticed not all salaries are listed ex. Huntington
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:48 AM
CHECK OUT THE TAX DEPT SALARIES...GEEZ
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:45 AM
WEST VIRGINIA UNIVERSITY CROUT, RICHARD J PROFESSOR $198,923.00 WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Clint on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:42 AM
I noticed not all salaries are posted
Posted by: Sue on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Tyler: And I have had professors who are on that list who are productive researchers, have been at the school for over 20 years and are loved by students and they are not even close to $100,000. But I am also not talking about Marshall. And if a new professor is making that much money, it is a travesty. ANON-1: What medical field are you entering? Are you a doctor? Because if you are a doctor, then you are underpaid. Starting out in any field is going to draw a lower rate of pay. What I'm talking about are people who are well established and productive. And maybe even well liked...and in academia being liked and being productive usually don't go hand in hand.
Posted by: Ash on Feb 20, 2008 at 11:36 PM
The Marshall head football coach makes more than the governor. Isn't there something wrong with this picture???
Posted by: State Employee on Feb 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM
It's nobody's business what I make, and this list is just one of the many reasons I can't wait to move out of West Virginia. I'm counting the days.
Posted by: State Worker on Feb 20, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I work for the State, this has been public information forever. Don't be nosy and look if you don't want to know other state employees information. Come on now, we know we are underpaid, this state taxes people to death and expects to support it economy off of it. Our gas tax is a perfect example. It will never get better until you get your voice out. We like to complain, but never change anything. So, for those who wish to complain, do something!!!
Posted by: anonymous on Feb 20, 2008 at 09:40 PM
My husband has worked for the state for over 8 years now, and still does not even make $30,000 a year. People on welfare are taken better care of than we are!!! We are practically poverty level!!! After having their salaries frozen for 4 years, he receives a tiny raise that in actuality his pay went down because of our raising insurance costs. It's just down right disgusting!!!
Posted by: Stephanie on Feb 20, 2008 at 09:32 PM
It is clear that WV State employees are not that well paid, it is a shame to look at it in black and white, but at the same time, it is the tax dollars of the citizens of WV that pay these people. We deserve to know how the money is being used. Open record laws allow for this. I work for a federally funded program and you can request our incomes, too.
Posted by: Vicky on Feb 20, 2008 at 09:32 PM
Manchin, can you afford to lose 66,075 votes? Remember what you are doing to your employees. You want this state to run like a business, give us fair chances for raises.
Posted by: Ky citizen on Feb 20, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Like everyone said, this is public knowledge. Just like marriage records, divorce decrees, death certificates, and if you don't want your salary posted, don't apply for a state job. PUBLIC RECORD PEOPLE! Enough said
Posted by: sue on Feb 20, 2008 at 08:35 PM
I knew would it would be just a matter of time. Sorry people your rights are being taken slowly, but surely. When you jumped on the bandwagon about non-smoking, you opened the door to this. Just wait, it's only beginning. You didn't care, because you didn't smoke. Well you should've saw it as a right being taken away! Reep what you have sewn!
Posted by: WV Worker on Feb 20, 2008 at 08:19 PM
I am a state worker and have no problem with my salary being posted. I am glad they added some more details such as job titles. It would be nice to see years of service and qualifications to give people more information to put salaries in context but I understand this would be more complicated and would anger many people. I have one of many state jobs with a high turnover rate. The administration's answer has been to raise starting salaries and give minimal (3%) across the board raises every other year. Knowing you make less with more experience or will receive the same raise as the person who doesn't work hard is killing morale. We need merit raises. I love my state and my job but I will be job hunting if Manchin gets four more years.
Posted by: stateworker on Feb 20, 2008 at 07:50 PM
the state should be a shame of what thay pay some of their employees their are a lot that dont do alot and get real good pay
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 20, 2008 at 07:13 PM
Hey get over it! This is public information! My tax dollars like most here in WV pay these salaries. Looking at some of them I can see why you don't want people to know what you make. I worked for Cabell County EMS, I left after 11 years making $8.71 an hour. Government jobs in WV suck! Unless you on the Welf of course!!
Posted by: Norman on Feb 20, 2008 at 07:04 PM
Get prepared, it's election time again! All the crooks and liars are out on our crooked roads seeking to find or make a deal. They're making promises, flipping a few crumbs around while they're stealing the pie as usual. Now is a good time for their prospective followers to get out of pending charges, speeding tickets, or get a license to carry a concealed weapon. It's business as usual or even worse than ever here. Now they are giving out jobs with no purpose, just a check in the mail from the state of WV. Fellow citizens of WV wake up, check it out. Then get out and vote against everyone that's in office. This way you will know at least you've chosen the lesser of two evils. When is too much enough? Roads of oppurtunity not taken will disappear sooner than you thinking.When the Holy Bible said love your enemies,it didn't mean "If you can't beat em, join em." Also, don't lie and steal, the WV DOH hates the competition.Well at least I can say the war on the middle class is going well.
Posted by: anon-1 on Feb 20, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Gov. Joe Manchin only makes about $94,000 a year? He needs to be making much more than that. I know professors who makes more than Gov. Manchin.
Posted by: anon-1 on Feb 20, 2008 at 06:29 PM
TYLER, The professors' salary may be low compared to professors around the country. But compared to other professions, it is high. I am entering a medical career that makes $80,000. To me that is high. But I was told by people in that medical field that it is low compared to other people in the medical field. They said I should be making at least $120,000. But I have no problem with $80,000, which is still alot to me. It is much greater than the salary of people in other careers. Also, professors with a phd makes more if he/she can bring more grants/money to the university. Some of the science professors make about $80,000. But I've noticed one professor who does lots of research probably brings lots of money to Marshall. He makes $99,000.
Posted by: Pat on Feb 20, 2008 at 06:05 PM
I think you need to clarify information re:State Employee salaries. The salaries of Nursing Staff at Mildred Mitchell -Bateman Hospital are GROSSLY MISLEADING!! Many of these dedicated people have worked as many as 4 and 5 overtime shifts inorder to be compensated in that manner. Much of the OVERTIME is MANDATORY due to the hospital having dificulty paying competitive salaries and the over census caused by a lack of community resources. The staff in ALL DEPARTMENTS at that facility have been working extremely hard during periods in which they have 25-30% over the alloted bed capacity!
Posted by: jill on Feb 20, 2008 at 05:52 PM
this information is nobody's business.
Posted by: John on Feb 20, 2008 at 05:36 PM
I want to work for the DOH. Get paid to sit and stand around
Posted by: wondering on Feb 20, 2008 at 05:35 PM
I guess now we can see if good old Joe is worth what we pay him. Anybody want to take a guess on what he makes a year ??????
Posted by: sensible on Feb 20, 2008 at 05:35 PM
TYLER, good luck. Maybe in Iraq.
Posted by: TYLER on Feb 20, 2008 at 05:18 PM
To Sue: You can't believe how little professors make ? I check one of my professor at MU who has only been working there for two years and she made $118,000. You call that LOW ? I want to be a college professor now.
Posted by: Anon123 on Feb 20, 2008 at 04:29 PM
Where is cabell county schools?
Posted by: kevin on Feb 20, 2008 at 04:20 PM
now people will know why so many poor people live in WV, look at the salaries these peole are paid, compared to surrounding states.
Posted by: Adron on Feb 20, 2008 at 04:12 PM
Anonymous, because we pay their salaries through taxes. I expect to know how my money is spent.
Posted by: Susan on Feb 20, 2008 at 04:09 PM
This should not be posted. Mother works at a county office as a secretary, this is personal info. What happens next? Will everyones info be posted for the world to see?
Posted by: Kelly on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:59 PM
I agree with the previous comment-- Why is everyone's salary listed? I feel just the top officials--possibly elected officials salaries need to be there. I was able to look up a former neighbors salary--she has worked for the state since she was 16 or so (appr 25 or so years with the state). She is just your average person She has worked her way up to where she is. I shouldnt have been able to see her salary. To be truthful it is/was none of my business. So why was it posted for the public to view?
Posted by: Moose on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:59 PM
This information always has been open to the public. It's public money and citizens have the right to know how it is being spent. Also, if this information was not publicized, what would stop the politicians from playing favorites by paying some employees more than others in the same or similar positions? Not that they don't find other ways to show favoritism.
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:57 PM
It's open to the public because the public pays these salaries.
Posted by: Work Every Day for Living on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:45 PM
I would like to see what these deadbeats on welfare draw yearly, not people that get out and work for a living. That is what tax payers would LOVE to see. Most people on welfare draw that check and then work for cash also. I think if their yearly incomes were shown, it would get alot of them off welfare because I for one know of several that are just out there working the system.
Posted by: Jim on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:44 PM
no wonder our state continues to rank at the bottom of most every poll....the government takes it all and they continue to grow in numbers....not a good way for our economy to grow...poor taxpayers
Posted by: Charleston on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:26 PM
I don't want people to know what I make!! It is no ones business. When I got hired, they said not to say anything! I am going to look into why this is being posted and what I can do about getting it changed for public access! This is personal information!!!
Posted by: chris on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:24 PM
66,075 state employees??? What the heck are they doing? Not paving roads obviously. Take into account that 1.5 billion dollars doesn't consider all of the brand new vehicles state employees are given and those 20 plus holidays each year! Yeah, let's give all of them a raise, they are the only ones in WV who make less than the national average...none of the rest of us do!
Posted by: Ron on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:23 PM
This brings to light the large amount of dedicated people in state goverment.
Posted by: State Worker on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Thanks for the embarressment once again.
Posted by: WV state employee on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:18 PM
This is open to the public because you pay my salary. You have a right to know what you are paying and what you are getting for it. I have no objection to the citizens of WV knowing what I make.
Posted by: Janet on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:06 PM
Wonder why all state employee's salaries are not listed? I think this information should be made public by individual request only. Now we know why the state is always hiring.
Posted by: Melissa on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Since you post our saleries on the news website why don't you post a link to all public employees that are supposed to be public information also, instead of just state employees... hhhmmmm Also to keep in mind like on my salery it says $20,000, this includes taxes that they take out, insurance, parking fees at the capitol (yes we have to pay monthly to park - two blocks away) when it's all said and done I bring home about 15, 000 and am trying to support a family of three on it ...I also am NOT receing any other benefits from the state (ie:welfare) Put that in you pipe and smoke it before anyone starts B___ about the money we make.
Posted by: State Worker on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Well this should show how much most of the employees with my organization makes who dont do there work and have bankers hours. This will show how good old JOE Is paying his state employees. Most of these flunkies make big bucks to look important cause they dont do the amount of work for the pay that other state workers make. It just goes to show you working for the state isnt that great after all. Maybe JOE needs to look at these salaries and see how many people besides the teachers are living in poverty, no offense to the teachers but you should get your money as well as other state employees who are more then in need of raises. The state likes to raisae the insurance up and not give us raises, I mean we havent had a cost of living raise since Ive been with the state and thats 10 years.
Posted by: Eer Fan on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Well, I guess the most important one is Rich Rod. He made 1.2, which is just less than half of what we owes us, haha.
Posted by: ton on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:17 PM
I think its great....they work for us, THE PUBLIC, we have a right to know where our tax dollars are going
Posted by: Just Me on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:15 PM
It's open to the public, because it always seems that the public is always upset because of how much state employees make and because everyone causes such an uproar when they do get a raise (which is less often than the teachers).
Posted by: Dave on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:04 PM
Our taxes pay them that is why "this" is open to the public.
Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 20, 2008 at 01:41 PM
Why is this oepn to the public? I don't believe they need to know this information!!!
Posted by: Sue on Feb 20, 2008 at 01:29 PM
I can't believe how little some of my professors make! My mother makes more than they do with less education!
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  • Posted By: nurse: cps says young kids can't use a weed eater or so i hear. so then why can these same kids put on football pads during the summer and have the coaches w/ parents approval run til they puke or get sick from heat exhaustion. and yes if your kid wants to play football then you do have to allow your kid to go through all that or they wont get to play. so why cant the same child weedeat.
  • Posted By: buck: why is it w/ summer sports it seems the parents make it all about them instead of the kids. am i wrong or do alot of these parents seem to want to relive life again through the kids. or even worse make a claim to being so good at whatever the sport the parent did that they push the kid all because of what they did 'or never did'. These parents also seem to be the really high ego type person. funny thing is if the parent was so good then why arent they pro or at least a great college player. what i have noticed is the the kids w/ the parent who did play college or was on the verge of being pro does not press the issue. they allow the kids to play ball. just my opinion
  • Posted By: Kerry: I would just like to give the city of Huntington a great big THANK-YOU!!! for the wonderful fireworks show. Despite the slight drizzle we had a great evening out. Also had an amazing dinner at "5 guys". Thank you!!!!
  • Posted By: ProudAmerica: On this holiday, I want to send out thanks to all the soldiers, veterans and their families. Without your service, this holiday would not be possible. Please know that you are very much appreciated.
  • Posted By: Anonymous: My comment is about the WV Unemployment office. The people who work there must be the most incompetent baffoons imaginable because it seems that they can never get anything right. It is bad enough that you have to wait in line for hours with all the other people who were unfortunate enough to lose their jobs due to the bad economy but when you finally get to see someone, they always manage to completely mess things up. As if to add insult to injury, they also seem to take great pleasure in denying someone because of their mistake which forces you to appeal their "decision" and go through it all over again. These people are far worse than your typical state employee, they are morons.
  • Posted By: Eve: Has anyone had people soliciting at their homes for "Cabell County schools"? Had a female come to the house this morning (on the July 4 holiday) from "University of Georgia" on behalf of Cabell County to talk to local parents. She had no list of student names and made the assumption that we had kids by the toys/bikes in our yard. She had a notebook with "local parents" names that she had talked with, but I didn't recognize any of the names. She asked about the neighborhood and if any other kids lived there. I didn't disclose any info except that lots of kids live in the area. Didn't let her in the house. Just suspicious because of the holiday and local home robberies. Called Huntington Police to inform them. Wanted to post to get more info out to other families. Have a safe holiday and if anyone else has similar info, please call the Huntington Police Dept. @ 696-4470.
  • Posted By: : To By?? Sounds to me like your doing some bashing too. Let's keep our feelings about each other to ourselves.
  • Posted By: : Seems to me the more than one person has too much time on their hands. I don't understand why people get on here and bash each other's comments. Why don't you all get jobs. WOW, don't think I will return to this section of the webpage anymore.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello working people of WV this is Big Earl and people there is nothing wrong with eating good wholesome foods like bacon sausage eggs lard flour and the like all these PETA types are ganging up on our good food like you cant go to a baseball game now and get a hotdog without a PETA nut bothering you boo hooing about the poor little pig that turned out as a hotdog. Now my favorite restaurant in the world Kentucky Fired Chicken has thrown in twith these nuts and is grilling chicken now. Chicken was never meant to be grilled only fried regular or extra crispy. So people I say get busy we have work to do they is two states in front of us we in WV have to reclaim our top spot as best fed in the whole country go down to the foodland or kroger and get a cube of regular mountain dew a sack of Lays chips and some good ball park big red smokeys with a big bowl of chili and have a grill out tomorrow to celebrate the fourth of July in style and may I say God bless the USA and coal miners too.
  • Posted By: food for thought: Yes I am a Christian. I do need to understand the book of Revelation more and the end time prophecy. Like most I have the concept of it. Just to make it short, government dependence(happening more than ever) and is almost being forced for the citizens of this country to rely on. Cap and trade?(sign of the mark of the beast?)I don't know. I am ready. You that believe in science is fine, I do too. I do not go as far as to believe every report they give out. I pose this question. if you are so worried about global warming that means you don't like heat or burning:correct? Hmmm, think on this of what in Revelation I do understand. The lake of fire is where the worm dieth not and the fire is never quenched. Eternity is forever, on this Earth we are just passing through.
  • Posted By: to why: no ,hetrosexuals wont go to hell any slower than gays.adultry fornication,stealing lying murder etc,are all sins.every one sins,it just that you cant say you want to be a christian,and keep on with bad habits or not want to change and expect god to say thats all right.life is a struggle for all of us.we are expected to repent and try our hardest to do whats right.god respects that.you are not in any more danger than any other sinner.i know that homosexuality is a sin but so is adultry.would we tell an adulter that its all right to keep on hurting their marriage and spouse and thats alright,no.i would rather live beside an honest caring,productive gay person than a dishonest evil selfish nosy buissybody any day.we are only responsible for our own sins and actions.you sound stressed,lighten up.but homosexuality is a sin,like adultry and fornication,nobody gets a free pass.
  • Posted By: Patty: Good points, Htiek, but the status quo with coal mining, which is a dirty business, no matter how it is marketed, i.e., "clean coal" (coal is dirty, period), will remain till the resources are depleted, the land and environment of the coal fields are destroyed, which is pretty much the case at present.
  • Posted By: bonn: One more thing and I really will stop. Why does the weather cycle? I do not know everything-no one does. But everything has its purpose. Sometimes, more cold is called for. If we don't have hard winters snakes and mosquitoes thrive, for one. Mosquitoes are a large part of fish diet. And snakes keep rodents in check. But too much cold hurts other things that call for warmer temps. Quail is one thing that comes to mind that suffer in the frigid temps. We just don't understand all of the workings of these things. But it is all to keep a balance-many times in things we ourselves have killed off, such as bear and wolves. Even if we don't like some species, they all serve a purpose and nature helps keep that balance. Our world really was wonderfully made. With all the changes in temperature, we still have seasons. You can know it will be cold in winter and hot in summer. The excesses serve a purpose we sometimes can not see. Strive to learn of all of her wonders, not follow blindly.
  • Posted By: bonn: I would like to apologize if I have been short and critical. I really am sorry. It is no excuse, but I have a very sick child who may be dying and I get so upset at the state of our world. I do have to quit reading these comments. But I hope I have caused a few people at least to think with their own common sense instead of blindly following whatever. Some theories may be correct. But many ARE for monetary purposes. We each were given a mind to think with. Question everything before taking it as it appears. And be sure and thank a veteran for the freedom we celebrate this weekend. Too many have died to protect it to just give it up willingly. And whether or not you are religious, lets try to love one another. Love can fix so many things! Try to keep our world clean, But that doesn't have to bankrupt us. We can all do our part in whatever ways we can. The old saying "Give a hoot, don't pollute" should not have gone out of style. And use your wikipedia to read "Ice Age" to see cycling.
  • Posted By: Follow up on cap and rape: CNSNews.com) – The 1,400-page cap-and-trade legislation pushed through by House Democrats contains a new federal policy that residential, commercial, and government buildings be retrofitted to increase energy efficiency, leaving it up to the states to figure out exactly how to do that. This means that homeowners, for example, could be required to retrofit their homes to meet federal “green” guidelines in order to sell their homes, if the cap-and-trade bill becomes law. The bill, which now goes to the Senate, directs the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to develop and implement a national policy for residential and commercial buildings. The purpose of such a strategy – known as the Retrofit for Energy and Environmental Performance (REEP) – would be to “facilitate” the retrofitting of existing buildings nationwide.In other words all your appliances-heating-stove -fridge-windows-would have to meet green standards before we sell SOCAILISM HAS ARRIVED YESWEDID
  • Posted By: ANOTHER YES WE CAN: First you paid to insure your car. Soon you may have to add health insurance premiums to that stack of monthly bills as well. In a revamped health care system envisioned by senators, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face fines of more than $1,000. The details were unveiled Thursday in a health care overhaul bill supported by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.SOCAILISM IS HERE The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines would raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals
  • Posted By: bonn: Good grief! The brain washing has gone so far it will never get better. Some of this way of thinking makes me physically ill in my stomach. All of one mind! Mindless devotion to whatever is contrary to common sense and whatever theory is being passed around. Most families have both parents working, some two jobs, just to make it now. Soon you won't even be able to work enough to carry your family, the government and the ones who won't work. Then you will be disposable and they will start killing you off because you can't give them enough money. But you will blindly keep following. It is easy to see how Hitler took control and how it is being set up for the antichrist to take control. I quit. I will never read another comment. And Kris, did that nut not know the sky has always appeared blue? Hahaha Goodbye. I know you will reply, but I won't be reading it. Never again. Either you believe God or the scientists. I choose God. And freedom!
  • Posted By: cap and trade: world net daily has an informative article on home ownership and all buildings in u.s.it is about total government control of everyone.you will have to answer to the gov.or else.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To Pearl: Thanks for the comment. I try to be an adult and make the usual comments and complaints, But how would you feel if every time you wrote something, Someone would respond back with their own opinions and say that you are wrong! Just the other day I wrote how my child was injured at Camden Park! Of course RoaneCo. had to write something and attack me about my decision to get angry about the situation. Yes, I agree that I should just turn the other cheek but I was raised to stand up for myself!! Why I'm a target I'll never know but I think that I have a right just like everyone else on here and to say my opinion on things whether people agree or not.
  • Posted By: Why?: EVERYONE SINS! Why is being gay the worst sin that sends you "straight" to HELL? Heterosexuals can do all the "sining" they want and still go to heaven but LGBT can't.
  • Posted By: Justme: Coal mining has been around for years and years. I'm sick of all these nuts that are griping about mining. You nuts are always griping. Maybe you need to get a life. If your so against it.. Then turn your lights out. And stop using the power. Move on, and stop taking jobs away from our miner's.
  • Posted By: Htiek: What always amazes me about people in WV is their slavish devotion to coal mining even though it is killing the planet, costs more jobs than it creates, poisons the water, destroys the mountains, scars the land, kills the snail darter, and other horrible things. Things are all so backwards in this country why dont we switch over to something that lasts and is free like the sun and wind? Even if the president said that stuff and I doubt he did and even if he did you are misquoting him or taking him out of context he is right if there is one sure way to get people to stop turning their air conditioners down to 76 it is to raise the price, just like gasoline. People we can learn to ride bikes and walk again, just like they did in the old days, that will help give us exercise and decrease the obesity rate in WV. Food is another area, the slop that people eat like MacDonalds, trans fats, regular soft drinks, anybody with half a brain knows the intelligent thing to do is tax regular soda pop.
  • Posted By: Gandalf: A tea party? Oh my! I must relay this information to my friend Alice and the Mad Hatter. Door Mouse and Rabbit too. They will be thrilled! Oh my bad, must have picked out the wrong book today. Ta Ta!
  • Posted By: Pearl: Roane Co why dont you and Jane pursue your romance elsewhere the yell is for complaints.
  • Posted By: Kris: Just throwing this out there. I'm sitting on my couch wearing sweat pants and short sleeve shirt. I'm thinking about shuting my windows and turning on my heat. Shouldn't I be turning on the air conditioner instead? It's the 2nd of July. Not saying it's global warming but it doesn't seem right. Haven't heard of any heat warning anywhere is the US so far this summer. Great for us but doesn't feel right.
  • Posted By: Kris: Hi Bonn, it is true that these cycles do occur over time. Scientists have taken core samples from the earth and the ice to show these cycles. However, none of the samples show such a dramatic change in such a short period of time. I am a smoker and I will admit that my second hand smoke can and probably will effect the lungs of a non-smoker. The tons of carbon monoxide and other pollutants that we release into our atmosphere HAS TO have an effect on our atmosphere. True story: there was a scientist that day after day after day couldn't figure out why the sky was so blue and clear. Then it struck him, there hadn't been ANY planes in the air for three days. That was 911. What you put out, is what you get back. If you put love out, you will get love back. If you put out negativity, you will get negativity back. For every action, there is a reaction whether it's good or bad. It's in our hands to do our best not to cause an adverse impact to our planet. Peace to ALL!
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello again good working coal mining people of WV this is the coal miners friend Big Earl with news of yet another hippie plot to stick there big noses further into our business now some of these people in Congress has throwed in with the tree huggers they are trying to make it so you cannot sell your house without some nut from the hippie EPA coming in and inspecting it to make sure you are green enough to suit there tastes. This so called cap and trade bill that these busy body do gooders are pushing on us will destroy our jobs and run up the electric bills so that everybody will have to live like the Waltons with 27 people under one roof just to keep warm. Now the average hippie longhair don’t care noway because they would have us all living in mud huts riding mules wearing sandals and weaving baskets to load down with califlowers and arougalas tofu and alfalfa to take up on some worthless mountaintop as an offering to there windmill god instead of having nice homes, cars, a job and cool air in the summer and heat in the winter ALL THANKS TO THE COAL MINER. Anything to bother people attracts these hippies like flies to a cowpie.
  • Posted By: to hteik: hteik has 2 comment .the global warming one was hillarous.it was june 30.he must not have gotten the same public education i did,he was taught that we had satellites in colonial time.but then again he think algoe is really smart,he doesnt know al didn,t really invent the innernet.i think fox news and conservative talk radio would do him a world of good,he,d be shocked at what he doesn,t know.
  • Posted By: Amy: Hey Keith, I must have missed that interview because I was busy clinging to my guns and religion. No, really, I did see it. It's kind of strange how people become so shocked when this stuff is introduced in the House of Reps. Obama outlined every plan he intended to get pushed through and a lot of people just didn't listen. Next time I hope people vote for the best candidate not the best slogan. Yes we can....bankrupt the nation!
  • Posted By: Patriot1: Tea Party: There will be a tea party in Grayson, Ky on July 4th. It will be held at the City Park from 4:00-6:30PM
  • Posted By: Dave: The seat belt law is no law. Its nothing but a deliberate attempt to extort money off the American people,use communist law and control the populace. THE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER VOTED ON IT, BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET YOU BELIEVE THAT IT WILL SAVE LIVES. TELL THEM TO GIVE YOU THE FIGURES ON ACCIDENTAL OPERATIONS.And if that doesn't satisfy you then why are we allowing our young brave soldiers to be killed,and for whom? WHY AREN'T THESE NEWSPAPERS BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE? Because the nations 96% are owned and controled by the WEALTHIEST.
  • Posted By: bonn: I was trying to make a point. Perhaps not in the best way. I get so discouraged seeing what is happening around us. One group of scientists call for us to spread soot on all the snow up north to absorb heat to counter the coming ice age. Another (more popular) group calls for painting our roofs white to reflect the heat that is melting our ice caps. Which group is right? Neither. Our earth is doing exactly as it has been doing all along. Cycling naturally. Did it plan it all on its own? Hardly. But no one wants to hear that. It reminds me of "chicken little" yelling "the sky is falling". Only this is not so funny-this is control. And what is even sadder is-people seem to WANT to be controlled. This earth will continue as always until one preplanned day it all comes to a screeching halt. Then a new earth will be created. I will not be caught off guard. I read The Book. I know where I will be. Do you? And do you really enjoy giving those schemers your money that much? I hope one day...
  • Posted By: Keith: A few questions for the Yell audience: Does anyone remember when Obama gave that interview in SanFran Cisco and said that he would not prevent the construction of a coal fired plant, but his policies would bankrupt anybody that tried to build one? That policy was cap and trade. I heard O say that energy prices, under his administration, would "necessairly skyrocket." Is this the hope and change you guys voted for? How will you afford your electric and gas service under this man who cares so much for the poor? Obama said once that he was not bothered that the price of gas had risen so high, just that it happened so fast. How does everyone feel about the gas price? Obama raked John Pablo McCain over the coals for suggesting health care benefits be taxed as income, now he is going to do the same thing to pay for "free" care to illegal aliens, deadbeats, etc...but union workers will be exempt from this tax. How does that make you feel if you work for a living and are not in a union? H&C
  • Posted By: Amy: Hteik, "all is well" because people like us! Give me a break. If all were well, we would not have the largest unemployment rate in 26 years. The stimulus package would prevent it from going above 8%, remember? How is Iran not our business but Honduras is? The people of Honduras have a Constitution very similar to ours and we should support the people not an extremist who is trying to take over their country. The 22nd Amendment does a great service for our nation. IF it would be reversed that would be O.K too. At the rate Obama is going W. could beat him in 2012. At least I would sleep better at night.
  • Posted By: Just Me: Wow Jane Doe, give it a rest. I really don't think God would be please with this going on and on and on...healthy banter is fine, but this is not healthy banter. Christians absolutely can and do get angry, it's what they do with that anger that counts. It doesn't matter where, when, or even IF you go to church...what matters is that you have accepted Christ into your heart and asked for forgiveness of your sins. God didn't save us to judge others, he saved us to lead others to him. I've said many times...what if the person you just yelled at, told off, or whatever showed up at your church on Sunday? Would you be proud of your behavior?
  • Posted By: Sophie: Roane County is a beautiful place. The country roads snake along past fields, farms and old homes we wish could talk. Looneyville is indeed named after the Looney family, so is Gandeeville. My father was from Roane Co. & graduated from Walton High School in the 40's. He told me tales of his school days, friends, boyish pranks, old cars and the fun they had at the 4-H camp. Spencer was a big place to them. Roane Co. gave us many war veterans and kept distant family & friends together with the annual "Roane County Reunion". I don't even know if they still have it, but we used to go. I remember seeing Sen. Robert Byrd play his fiddle there. The Black Walnut Festival in October(?) is a good time to visit Spencer. They usually have a parade, arts & crafts and a museum. You can enjoy a slice of Americana, along with a slice of homemade pie.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: The great Dale Carnegie once said "You never win an argument".Most of you know he wrote" How to Win Friends and Influence People'.Some of you should put this on your Christmas List.I think I will dust it off and revisit this old classic.
  • Posted By: cap and trade: welcome to ''before tax and tax'bill going thru the powers that be.look at your electric bills this monthe there is an enviornmental tax at 2.2cents for every kilowatt you use.can we even imagine what our electric bill will be,not to mention every thing we consume,food water ,every necessity that cant be done without.we in easternky have good reps.in washington,every one in surrounding states should put your so called reps a lot of pressure to defeat this tax and tax bill that is being pushed by a few people to make them richer and control every aspects of productive peoples lives.look at your gasbill also,you will see only a very small portion for gas but the rest in fees and taxes.look at your phone bill you will see a 100percent markup in taxes and fees.its time to put pressure on politicans to protect the citizens and not the lobiest.
  • Posted By: justanotherfly: sounds like jane doe is looking for an easy way out ie a lawsuit
  • Posted By: to bonn: i couldn,t have said it better myself.some things have to be explained like you are talking to a 5year old.but like some 5year olds that are stubborn and spoiled rotten they dont listen.wait till the cost of every thing sky rockets and they will be the first to rant and rave that nobody told them.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To my biggest fan, RoaneCo: Ummm! It's sounds to me like you have a lot of anger. You have to pick on everyone's comments! I think I speak for everyone when I say (Get a Job)!! Cause you obviously have none! You have all this free time on your hands! Why don't you spend this free time helping others instead of puttin them down! You know..WSAZ has job postings...Maybe you could find one on there!!!!I'm not a negative person. Maybe I'm just like everyone else that has a job and three kids and a lot of things to do! I get stressed out, I know that goes way over your head,You don't get stressed. But because you go to church doesn't mean you can't get angry about stuff!!LOL My father-in-law is a Deacon at my church and even he has a temper!! Look out craveontruth! Looks like RoaneCo. has found someone else to pick on!Good Luck!! Have a perfect day ( I know you will)!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Yes Craveontruth, there is a place named Looneyville.(no Jane Doe that isn't where I live) It is on Rt.36, nothing there but the Looneyville Post Office, and I am not joking. There is also a Lefthand Post Office on Rt.36, always wondered why there wasn't a Righthand also. Our County seat is located in Spencer, (middle of nowhere) which for years was only known for its State Mental Institution. (no Jane Doe this isn't my Alma mater) It was closed years ago and now a Wal-Mart is on that location. I guess the only other thing to speak of would be the Black Walnut Festival which is held in Spencer every October.
  • Posted By: bonn, the simpleton: Don't we have a smart earth? She formed herself from a dust cloud, they say and planted herself just the right distance from the sun to support the life she would create. She also filled her insides with molten heat to maintain the right temps and if that builds too much she decides to blow some out holes (volcanoes) to keep from exploding. She makes her own rain, knowing whether she needs a gentle soaking rain for her plants, or a gully washer to cleanse the filth. It pours down the mountains, into the rivers and out into the ocean which she just happened to fill with salt (her natural sanitizer). And she knows if she doesn't have ice she will over heat, but too much and she will freeze, killing her life she so carefully made. So she melts some, then as it heats up, she freezes more. All just coincidental happenings? She is brilliant! But not so smart as the humans who are making a fortune controlling the other dumb humans by convincing them THEY are causing her to do these things!!!
  • Posted By: passing by the yell: I met someone from Looneyville once. It's named that after a person's last name from what I was told.
  • Posted By: Hteik: Well it is nice to see that the war in Iraq is ending under President Obama. Who would have thought, it seems the world is backwards right now, huh? Obama gets elected, the world understands our good will, and all is well. Just like history, Republicans start wars, Democrats finish them. Hate to say we told you so but we told you so, I just get fuzzy inside thinking about all the people that love us now that hated us because of that old Bush. Another thing too, leave this Iran thing alone, that is none of our business. I dont recall anybody from Iran coming over here to help us in 1776 so why should we stick our nose in their business? When you get a strong leader like in Honduras, a good strong leader with a military background, everybody goes nuts because the guy takes things over well I support him and Obama. In fact, some people are so needed we better start now to get rid of the 22nd Amendment, it was only put in by jealous radical extremist crazy Republicans to hurt FDR.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: I don't think I have ever been to Roan County.Nothing against the good people of that neck of the woods.I did enjoy looking it up on wikipedia.Is there really a Looneyville there? If there is then I must visit!Who's with me?
  • Posted By: food for thought: 2-10 years for almost killing a child? Where are our priorities? I know they are nestled in the mountains or wait lying deep in the ocean waiting for anoother person to adopt them and claim rights to the next whale that is proclaimed Shammu or Willy. Get real people lets protest these laws that allow some cook to wanna kill his child and only have to pay his debt of 2 - 10 years. Oh and Kris your right our God won't kill a 1 yr old or a 100 yr old just do to it. He would do it for his glory and maybe take them from being around a half heartened sadistic person that would do this to a child. Oh i love the lights and the A/C and my car, but most of all I love my GOD "Jehovah God" whom i think first and foremost for all I have, then i thank a coal miner and an AEP worker and a so on and so on.
  • Posted By: Kimberly: Raising the WV Toll price? I see a lot of arguments coming from this. Where is all of this money going to? Mansion might be a good governer, but when it comes to things like this, it needs fixed. WV roads are awful and I know after all of these years, surely the toll money has added up to more than enough to fix these roads!!! What an awful awful idea!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Bonn, people like you are the very reason I have stated that I respect ones right of freedom of religion. Although I have different views, I have no issues with anyone going to church and trying to live according to their interpretation of the bible. I think that is wonderful. I also thank you Bonn for being open minded and seeing the point I was trying make. And for Anonymous on Jul 1, 2009 at 03:11 PM, no Craveontruth and I are not the same person. We do agree on some issues, and disagree on others. And when we do disagree (speaking for myself of course) we do it without anger. Also, for Bob... sorry, it isn't working. I have a two year old that comes up with better jabs than you. But I respect your right to try.
  • Posted By: Sophie: Just a few comments on current Yells: Big Earl - I just can't read you anymore because it's the same things over & over. Yeah, we're with you - there are a bunch on weed-o's coming around these days trying to shut us down for the sake of some owl...We get it. We all hate it. Roane Co/Jane -It appears Roane has been very hurt in their lifetime by family conflict involving belief. Many people get hurt because of superstition & misinterpretation and overzealousness. It has been this way since time began. I hope Roane can someday get past the hurt & retoric to work out his/her own salvation. Simple belief in Jesus Christ is where it starts, the rest as I put it, is just "gravy". Jane: I'm sorry your child was hurt. This indeed must be reported. I got hurt @ CP one time too on "The Whip". It beat me so hard against the side I had a major bruise on my hip. I strained my arms trying to keep from slamming into the side. A fun thing was not so fun. No rides for me, anymore. Not there.
  • Posted By: : I think RoaneCo. and Craveontruth is the exact same person? Who's with me?
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello good people of WV this is Big Earl and I for one am sick and tired of all these out of state know it all nosey people bothering us if it is not these smelly hippies trying to run our jobs off or rename the WVU mascot now they are calling the good citizens of WV fat. Well people I am here to tell you that this bunch at the so called CSPI and no you hippies I don’t mean the TV show calling us fat should look in the mirror they look like something off night of the living dead pasty faced scarecrows and beanpoles and what is so great about that. WV has some of the best staple foods anywhere in the world I have eaten paotatoes beans meat flour and corn meal all my life cooked in lard and I am not one bit worse off for it and can mine coal with anybody. People all the good foods we eat are natural growed in the garden or on the farm so it should even make a tofu eating hippie type happy. I am more bothered that two states beat us out in the race for the top so I tip my hat to the people of the great states of Alabama home of the best country music band ever and Mississippi but people of WV get busy we have to reclaim our title to best fed in the USA I recommend the Kentucky Fried Chicken with gravy and biscuits as a good place to start our comeback.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Actually Jane Doe, growing up I did attend church and read the bible. Being subjected to religion for many years I would not consider myself "confused" or uneducated. If one looks at organized religion with an open mind it isn't hard to see who is confused. For example, you have one bible yet there are numerous religious groups ( methodists, baptists etc...) that believe their interpretation is the only correct interpretation. This is understandable because the bible itself is very contradictive. In my opinion the the bible and organized religion is nothing more than a tool created to control the masses. Yet this tool has pitted man against man, brother against brother, state against state and country against country, not to mention the wars, death and destruction it has caused. I have witnessed in my lifetime many family fueds, broken marriages and busted churches at the hands of organized religion. I have heard the words of hate spoken by christians. I am not confused.
  • Posted By: To Fat Earl: You're losing! Ha,Ha!
  • Posted By: Kris: God does not control the weather!If so then he would be responsible for killing hundreds of innocent people every year in America alone! If that's your God, you can have it! My GOD is loving and compassionate. He would never take the life of a one year old nor a hundred year old just because he felt like creating a tornado that day or a hurricane the next. Get a brain and use it simpletons!
  • Posted By: bonn: To Jane Doe: I am afraid RoaneCo's common sense is more attractive than your comments. Read your last post at 8:58 and see if it shows the Light you are suppose to give. We are suppose to control our anger. Yes, we are forgiven, but it is not a license to keep repeating our faults. It is mercy so we can improve. Viciousness does not become a child of God. RoaneCo., may God forgive us for driving you and others away from Him with our failure to shine the Light of Love. And Jane Doe, I am the one you called ignorant just because I was showing compassion (another expectation of a Christian). It is scary about your child. But that person was not attacking your child, nor joking about it, only disapproving of your outburst. Not very attractive in anyone, especially one called to set an example for others to follow. If you must get angry, use it to accomplish something good. Christians are hated enough WITHOUT cause. Love is the answer.
  • Posted By: Bob: I think we might need to contact someone in state govt.about inspecting our amusement parks to many in the public simply dont care if kids get hurt this could have been something really really bad but I guess there is always a few who would crack jokes at anything even a child getting injured.
  • Posted By: cap and trade bill: you wont hear on liberal obama mania news reports whats in the cap and tax bill.only conservate talk radio and conservative news are telling the contents of this country destroying bill.liberal dont want you to be informed,it would be to dangerous for their so called news networks.did you know that,as i somewhat understand it,that every house in the country will have to be at gov.standards before it can be sold,they will be allowed to change therules in mid stream if they want.even if you dont like conservative news,remember only a well informed person can try to stop tyranny.look for facts,have you heard 1 liberal news tell you whats in this bill thats detrimental to this country and freedom.i challenge wsaz to look up whats in this bill and report accuratly whats in it.i dont think thats going to happen.
  • Posted By: food for thought: AMEN Bonn I could never have said it any better, being a Boone county coal miner and all. We do no get a very well reputation anyway.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: RoaneCo.can hurt but often the truth does hurt.I support RoaneCo.To Jane Doe,I believe RoaneCo.does know quite a bit about Christianity and is not confused at all.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: Thank you everyone for your support!!You know RoaneCo. Nobody is perfect, That goes for Christians too! Are we allowed to get mad??Yes! But are we forgiven everyday? Yes!Obviously you don't know much about Christianity! That's why you critize so much!!You're confused!! We are not perfect! I guess you are!!
  • Posted By: VOTE NO ON CAP AND TRADE: I know its a repost but i think its Worthy 'Liberty Or Tyranny?' House Passes Cap-And-Trade Republicans Warn Bill Gives Federal Government 'Virtual Control' Over 'Every Aspect Of The Lives Of The American People. Thank the Dumbocratic controled house as it will raise the average consumers power bill $175.00 This on top of the energy companies already asking for an inctrase will put such a burden on the American people that only the wealthy will survive.Please write or call our Senators they are the only life line we have left and ask them to VOTE NO on cap and trade. Republicans were overwhelmingly against the measure, arguing it would destroy jobs in the midst of a recession while burdening consumers with a new tax in the form of higher energy costs.And there was plenty to work on in a House-passed measure that pointed toward higher electricity bills for the middle class.Budget Office and the other from the Environmental Protection Agency — that suggested average increases would be $175.00 a year.
  • Posted By: cap and trade survey: against cap and tax,85percent.people who work and are productive.15percent for cap and tax,,,people who work for government or live off the fat of the land and dont mind other people being taxed into poverty....
  • Posted By: : If new drivers would slow down and actually pay attention to what they are doing, then maybe WV would'nt have these new laws for teenage drivers. Personally myself I believe that all states should have this law. It would make the roads a little safer to drive on.
  • Posted By: bonn: About global warming- our temperature is (and always has been) constantly changing. GOD controls it. Anyone who thinks we can are puffing themselves up bigger than we are.Are we suppose to believe we are responsible for the Ice Age thawing that is suppose to have happened way back when as well? How did that happen? Certainly not carbon emissions. Use some common sense and realize people are using this to line their pockets and gain support for their pet projects. I know- you don't want to hear this, but it is not realistic. Don't let America be controlled with this, PLEASE!! Let us remain free!
  • Posted By: Bob: Dont worry Jane Doe I have notice RoaneCOs posts are generally always on the rude side I am sorry to hear about your daughter.
  • Posted By: Just wondering: the 3 people that was killed on alt rt 10. 2 being st. joe's students. Did they ever release the cause of the accident?
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: I do care about the safety of our children Anonymous on Jun 30, 2009 at 09:01 AM, no matter where they are or what they are doing. Our children are our future. What I don't care for is someone like Jane Doe on here week after week preaching her little sermons all the while calling people ignorant and showing her hostility toward others. It has always amazed me how most christians will belittle someone else but the minute you catch them being unchristian like they always come up with the old "we christians ain't perfect". Well I know they are not, but by golly they are the first to judge everyone else. These hyporcitical self proclaimed christians are one of the reasons I turned away from organized religion years ago. I just don't agree with these people shoving religion on everyone else. I respect Jane Does right to religion and I would even fight for her to keep that right, but she, like so many others need to keep their religion in their church and their home.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Well hello again good working coal mining families in WV this is Big Earl and I for one am very disappointed that this cap and trade bill got passed into law the other day no thanks to our good representatives from WV. People all I can say is get a woodpile and a bunch of cow chips because your electric is going to get real expensive real quick. These hippies has run up to Washington DC and boo hooed to them tree huggers and longhairs in the EPA until they got even worse done to our jobs but then again what do you expect from a bunch that has a leaf from a dope plant on there sign like the EPA does if you don’t believe me look on this very website I seen a picture of it. Birds of a feather flock together that’s why the good working people were kept out and not allowed to talk at that hearing and the hippies let in. People these hippies has slandered our great state and coal miners first they bring in professor moonbeam from NASA to insult us then he tucks his tail and runs back to NASA and wont debate Mr. DB then they attack our state university mascot the WV mountaineer. Well people I Big Earl have a solution to this lets call WV the “Ivory Soap State,” make our mascot a bathtub that’s a sure fire way to get rid of these smelly hippies and longhairs and keep them out forever.
  • Posted By: ME: We christians are most always judged by our actions and that is to be expected since we are not perfect in any way. We all make mistakes every day,we get angry,we say things we shouldn't and act out our frustrations sometimes to those closest to us and our friends. We try to do better and ask forgiveness when we do stumble from our christian path. Actions speak louder than words at times, good or bad. Yes we adults act like children at times and children try to act like adults all too soon. We never know who we are influenceing with our actions and words so we need to always try to act,say and do what is right. As long as we are on this earth we will stumble but we should strive to be the best we can be and treat people with love and respect no matter how we are treated. I have turned the cheek many times and been slapped alot and will keep on doing it as long as I breath. My time will come soon enough to be judged as to the way I have lived and treated people.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: I love people on the Yell!!! They give me a chance to laugh everyday. Thanks guys!!
  • Posted By: just looking: UMMMM do you people think that christians are perfect??? Do you think we dont get angry?? Only one person is perfect and that is Jesus Christ...And if a christian says they are perfect, then they arnt a very good christian. We all have faults. Alot of you people cant wait to get up and look at the faults of others and criticize what they believe in....
  • Posted By: Patriot1: Tea Party. There will be a "Tea Party" July 4th from 4:00-6:30 PM at the City Park in Grayson,Ky
  • Posted By: Donna: Please! enough of Michael Jackson. He died, now he will appear before God and face his punishment for his sins against children. He was a morally bankrupt person who the media has presented as an icon. It's no wonder children are so messed up today,too much TV and not enough parenting. You too, are responsible for making him appear as a person to be looked up to. He and others in entertainment and sports are not what the children need, they need moral examples to look up to, please stop the glorification of immoral and indecent individuals.
  • Posted By: food for thought: To those of you telling me to watch out for Fox news, please go back and read carefully what I said about the media and the government. I thank each of you for your information. I am not out to attack anyone whether acclaimed or the average joe. I just know what I have read from reports and from different sites. This information is what our scientists, meteorologists and so forth use in reference to report the records of weather and temperatures. Again thank each of you, and at last Fox news was the channel the fine people at our local (American made) dealership had channeled on the tube, personally I just watch WSAZ, at the local level.
  • Posted By: : Roane Co., why are you not concerned about the safety of small children at amusement parks?
  • Posted By: Htiek: Right on Kris you tell em about Fox News. Everyone that watches knows that the dependable networks are ABF, Anyone But Fox. I am just like everyone else in the know, they lie all the time but please dont press me to cite anything specific as I am having coffee right now. I am new to your side, so pardon me if I get something confused. Those photographs of the ice caps are proof positive as far as I am concerned, these flat earth types that dont believe global warming should compare them to the satellite picutres from the colonial period and over the years since for comparison purposes. I once heard the hottest year on record was in the 1930s but what does that prove. And before one of you know it alls talks about Al Gore riding everywhere in a private plane and having such a huge house and running a company that profits from selling carbon credits, some people in life earn their special privileges simply by showing up and enlightening the rest of us, so there.
  • Posted By: polar ice caps: the weather is always changing.sometime it freezes sometimes it melts,thats gods doings,not mans.wasnt it the great mind of ted danson many years ago that explaind that in 15 or 20 years that the oceans were going to raise so many feet that it would destroy and overflo inward to apolipicate level.i guess the people that live on these coast lines dont know they are under water.we americans are so silly.let me explain what a great creator said,it rains but the oceans are never full.ice melts but the oceans never overflo.i think i,ll believe him instead of a.gore or ted danzen.p.b.s last week on a travel show,,i think,,,,the guide said the glacier there had been melting 150years.that was certainly before the industrial revolution.as for fox,world net daily,newsmax,etc.the liberal press has lost it monolopy on liberal so called news.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: After you finish showing your true colors, go back and read my post again Jane Doe. Better yet let me cut and paste it for you. "I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are." And just for the record, I would never "make fun" of a child, but don't think for one second that I won't point out an adult being hypocritical. Are you not the same Jane Doe that three weeks ago was preaching about God, then in the same breath calling someone "IGNORANT"? So let me say it one more time, I hope your little girl is ok. As for you, thank you for proving once again how kind, loving, patient and understanding some of you fine christians can be.
  • Posted By: Kris: This respectfully goes out to "food for thought" for what they said about fox news and global warming.FOX has great movies and tv shows but their view when it comes to the "news" is so far on the "right" way of thinking that it totally obscures reality in their opions of the subject at hand. They'll twist their views to make sure that it is opposite of "liberals" or people on the "left" and how they feel about the subject.Asf or global warming, we have actual time lapsed pictures of the polar caps melting at an alarming rate. You can actually see it happening. If things are cooling down, then why are the polar caps and icebergs melting at an alarming rate? The evidence is right in front of our faces. I sure do hope you're right because if I am, our planet is doomed. Sincerely, Kris
  • Posted By: Jethro: WHATS WRONG WITH YOU ALL UPDATE THE YELL!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!
  • Posted By: Keith: Never thought I'd sit around and miss Bush...well the wrecking ball has appointed a racist to the supreme court, one that is inept and incompetent too. Did you notice her latest ruling was overturned today? The economy is not getting better, those of you out of work have my sympathy because this clown is not doing anything to make it better. He never held a real job, never ran a business, just a rabble rouser and agitator. How do you feel about cap and trade energy tax? All over a phony problem that doesnt even exist; WV will wither away to nothing but hey we can all get jobs in the windmill factory, cant we? How do you feel about having your health benefits taxed to pay for Obamacare? How's the hope and change working out for everyone? What do you think card check is going to do the economy? Check out an article about Obama the African Colonialist on the American Thinker Website, dated June 25th. It explains him to a "T." Obama is a wrecking ball, and he's gonna roll over everyone.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Well hello again good working coal miners of WV this is Big Earl and people I have come to the conclusion that we need some friends in Washington DC that has got some clout. Some people up there has got big names but nobody apparently listens to, that is if they show up at all in court to help you out, those who are sick are excepted. Then there are some people in Charleston who should be in Washington who shall remain unnamed because nobody in Gov. Joes office asked me to say that. But remember who had that bunch from FEMA down here handing out checks before two weeks after the flood water hit and figure out who has clout. You people that went up for the hearing last week should be thanked but the good people never got to say a word but these hippies did, they are apparently now running around the creek with microscopes looking for fish that cant be seen with the eye, something called a microbe, now they are blaming the coal miner for killing off this worthless animal and I sincerely hope Captain D or old Long John will never put some slop like that on my plate when I want good seafood. If you dont see it it cant be of no good use anyway, sort of like a certain US senator with a big rich name who was nowhere to be seen last week.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To RoaneCo. How dare you critize my comment. This isn't just some fun arguement!! My child is hurt! Do you think that's funny? Do me a favor, Next time I write about my kids, Don't comment! I hope you don't have any kids because you don't see the harm and worry in my comment, You just want to fight and make fun of someone!! This is really serious!! I don't see the humor!!!
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Did any of you people see those PETA nuts on the TV 3 news last night boo hooing about having to tie there dogs up hello again working people of WV this is Big Earl and I don’t know about you but I always thought it was rude and inconsiderate and just being a bad neighbor to let your dogs run wild all over the neighborhood digging up peoples backyards rooting around in garbage cans and doing there business all over the place. Have any of you people in Huntington ever lost a chicken to a wild dog. Even these back to nature types and hippies up here in Boone County tie up there dog to guard there dope patches but they don’t have no sense anyway if they aint going to Washington DC to try and rook us out of our jobs by carrying signs and yelling about some invisible fish that is no good to anybody they are screaming about the coal miner killing polar bears and other animals that don’t even live here. Apparently this bunch had the bright idea to go down to the park on Sunday down in Huntington when people was out with there families trying to walk around and enjoy things and they chained themselves to trees with real dog chains trying to get people to sign a protest petition to of all people a mayor named Wolf now I don’t know about you but that mayor better forget the beware of dog sign he needs to put a beware of the PETA nut sign up in that park.
  • Posted By: The Seeker: @food for thought: It is indeed important to check facts, and it heartens me to see that you're of the type that actively seeks them (even thought I fall on the side of the debate that believes in climate change, as it has solid science behind it). However, I caution you on taking anything from FOX news at face value. This is an organization that in 2000 won a case in Florida appeals court in which the court ruled that FOX has no obligation to tell the truth to it's viewers, and can misinform the public under the first amendment. This is also an organization that has been proven to have an agenda, and frames every bit of it's coverage to favor one political party over the other. My advice is to seek out less obviously biased news sources, especially in cases such as global warming, which is an issue that transcends political parties and affects every being on the planet.
  • Posted By: Hugh: Hey WVa. Checkin out the YELL. Kind of quiet today. Enjoyed my visit there. Met John Henry at the Big Ben Tunnel,saw the big bridge. Stood at Hawk's Nest and viewed the scenery. If I wasn't so old and crippled, I'd bungee jump from the New River Gorge Bridge. Have folks who live in the Talcott area and some around Hinton. Well won't take much of your time today. Just wanted to check in.
  • Posted By: what is foor for thought?: foor?? for thought, you do know Bush made those he commissioned to study it alter their reports when he found out it supported global warming, don't you? Anyone who just sees pictures of the ice caps 30 years ago and now would have to be mentally handicapped not to know there's global warming, the only thing that's possible to debate is the cause of it. Wonder why Fox didn't mention the Bush fiasco? Well I don't really wonder.
  • Posted By: more p.c at wsaz: gays in usa sounds like it was written by a gay person,so it was printed.it was,nt written by a gay person.it was a second thought,after i commented on other sins,such as adultry,but plainly written by a heterosexual person.it was not printed because im straight and not gay.so goes our country and freedom.
  • Posted By: Lou Ann: Ive had a similar bad experience at camden park several years ago. Havent went back since. The pricing is just another deterrent to doing business locally. I love this area but am very discouraged by the lack of pride in our appearance in several of our towns, the prices of doing business, the attitude towards the customer , the lack of merchandise. I could go on. We definately are not tourist friendly in the great ohio valley area.
  • Posted By: foor for thought: Looks like my comment on June 24th may be right. I have done some reading about this Global warming fad the government is putting on. I was sitting in a local car dealership and FOX news was reporting on the government sitting or "burying" studies by two of the highest ranking EPA officials contradicting this myth. Some of the comments from their studies proves the Global temperature if anything has decreased. Although, you should be skeptical about anything the media reports especially when it involves the government these are facts that have been recorded over time. I ask how come when these bozos as Dr. Hansen whom is from NASA(which has done innumerable amounts of damage to our air with their testing) never mention facts as these when trying to prove things they are claiming is a fact. People we in America have became lazy in seeking the truth, I am not disputing anything these scientists and the government tells us, but as we learned in elementary school check facts of both sides.
  • Posted By: gays in u.s.a.: another reflection on gays.if you think god doesn,t care about you because you,re gay ,he must love you more than you can comprehend,if not you could have been born ina muslim country.islam has no homosexuals ,they are not rehabilitate,just beheaded.as a loving and compassionate god says"GO AND SIN NO MORE".that doesnt mean just you it means all of us.yes god allows you to choose,he must really care.
  • Posted By: City of Milton: I'm glad that the City of Milton has so much money to spend and that they spend it wisely. Every time I drive through town on a nice day it never fails that someone is washing their personal vehicle at the VFD. Good to see that they budget personal car washes into the city budget. I think I'll stop in there today and see if I can wash my car as well...should be a nice day!
  • Posted By: Valorie: About four weeks ago, I sent a letter to Camden Park with a friendly suggestion to open the park to the casual visitor again. As of today, I still haven't had a response from them. There used to be a small fee for admission to anyone who just wanted to visit. Once inside the park, a visitor could buy a corn dog or pay to play a few games or ride a few rides. Now people have to pay a full admission price for all day rides, even when they don't plan to stay all day. A lot of people are grandparents who just want to watch their grandchildren ride for an hour or two. Some are young parents with small children who tire easily. As empty nesters, my husband and I would like to drop by to get a bite to eat, play some games or just walk around. Everyone I have spoken to said they would visit Camden Park a whole lot more if they didn't have to pay the full admission price. I challenge everyone to contact Camden Park and ask them to give the people a choice!
  • Posted By: to gay question: god is not a cruel and unfair god.we all have our faults.is homosuxality a bigger sin than adultry,pornography,lying,stealing, and the list goes on.the clue to these behaviors is wanting to make our lives better.we cant blame anyone but ourselves for what we do.if anyone doesnt change its what they want to do.but as long as it doesnt affect me thats between you and god.but it is wrong,just as cheating on your spouse is sin.would we tell the adulterer that its not sin and not to try being a better person,i think not.celibacy would be better than the same old behavior.these have been struggle since creation.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Losing your religion Jane Doe? What happened to "turn the other cheek"? I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are. But next time you read of someone else being "furious" or commenting on their personal issues, maybe you should keep your bible quotes to yourself.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: I recently went with my church and my family to Camden Park this past weekend. Me and my 6 year old daughter rode the Spider, We thought it was going to be lots of fun, we were wrong! It was a nightmare! It went on for 10 minutes and was going way too fast! My daughter was terrified and was screaming! I was furious when the man that helped us off asked if she was okay and I said what do you think and he laughed!! I have rode this ride for many years and loved it, But this time I could tell it was different! But then it gets worse, A friend of mine that stayed at the park longer than us informed me that after we left, The spider closed down and said they had crossed wires and the ride was malfunctioning!!! My daughter can't hardly walk today and has a four inch bruise down her back! I'm taking her to the doctor in the morning. If there is something seriously wrong, I will be speaking to the owner and this situation will be takin care of!!!!!
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