IRS Seizes Raceland, Ky., Assets
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Posted: 5:51 PM Sep 3, 2008
Last Updated: 10:58 PM Sep 3, 2008
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RACELAND, Ky. (WSAZ) – If you don't pay your federal income tax, your wages can be garnished and you could go to jail.

But if a city doesn't pay its taxes, many lives, services and citizens’ safety can be affected. Raceland is a town facing a federal income tax fiasco.

In an emergency session Wednesday night, Raceland Mayor Don McKee told a stunned city council that the Internal Revenue Service seized nearly $100,000 for non-payment of 2006-2007 federal taxes. That's nearly the Greenup County town's cash-on-hand budget.

Initially, the mayor said he'd limit fire and police protection, lay off city workers just to pay city bills before backtracking.

"The fire trucks will run," he said. "The police will answer calls."

Raceland City Council Member Dana Williamson said, "This will affect us, we have no tax base."

Many say the problems stems from miscommunication and carelessness -- that the tax payments were placed at the bottom of the pile and ignored.

City Clerk Ramona Barber said Raceland was short of funds at the end of the year to pay the income tax, and she warned the mayor and Police Chief Don Sammons but not council.
The mayor blames the IRS for not sending out proper payment notices

"They said they'd get back to us with a payment plan," he said.

But some angry council members say the funding fiasco stems from internal mismanagement and miscommunication.

"We never got a notice on taxes, ever," Williamson said.

Council finally voted to borrow up to $75,000 from a local bank to keep Raceland running. Barber assured the city attorney that this year's federal income taxes have all been paid on time, both weekly and quarterly.

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Posted by: dazed & confused on Sep 28, 2008 at 08:34 AM
same to you blondie or amused or whoever you are

Posted by: blondie on Sep 26, 2008 at 11:23 AM
To dazed and confused its sounds as if you have a brain smaller than a bb if you are that confused you should get some help from a mental physician.It is people like you that make working with the public difficult.Most people in this town are really nice people it seems to me that the blogs are coming from the same few people.As For Mayor and Council at least they are trying and cared enough to run for office (WHERE WERE YOU) at least they are trying and you sit there and make nasty comments.Have a nice day

Posted by: Retired in Raceland on Sep 23, 2008 at 09:30 AM
After reading all that has been said here , seems like the only time anyone takes an interest in the city is when something goes wrong and then all these people jump in with their opinions and that is all it is , opinions they mean nothing . I have lived in Raceland , my kids went to school in Raceland and I think the city does good for a small community . After checking seems that the last Mayor Selvage hired this clerk , lets start where it begin . I do not know this Rob person you speak of , I hope our city gets straightened out and back to normal and the people on here that knows everything why don't you go offer your help and opinions to the city instead of tearing it down? Raceland has had some Mayors that done nothing for the city but, the people had to deal with them because they elected them mostly because they lied and told people they were going to help the city then they just made more problems like the one now. Lets stand by our city and help if we can.

Posted by: Raceland Senior Citizen on Sep 19, 2008 at 01:41 PM
To Amused,either someone else wrote the last blog for you or my chastising made you realize what a dim outlook you have on other people.I do agree with you uniformed citizens would do better than the inexpierence we have now.As stated earlier I also believe you are one of our uniformed officers and if so any who have read all your blogs can see what we have protecting us.Not good at all!Yes you are correct in saying I am angry with someone like you who has such a negative attitude and at the city for the poor choices made in budgeting. Hopefully Rob can with his suggestions and help get this mess straightened out.He is a fine gentleman and always does our vehicles good service at his business.This gives me more a piece of mind. I want to Thank You Rob!

Posted by: AMUSED on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:10 AM
To Raceland Senior Citizen: Who is angry , not me! I am just surprized that we have uninformed citizens like you and the ones that have joined in with their opinions and have no idea what they are talking about you don't read the paper or you would know what is going on and I guess you live in the past "I remember back in 1950 " type world. I see new houses going up in Raceland all the time. Look around you or better still drive around and look. You fine citizens just want to gripe about issues you know nothing about, I am a citizen of Raceland , retired and have lived here many years and I take an interest in MY CITY unlike most on here that just sit back and jump at the chance to put people and our city down. Wake up and support your community and help in this time, as far as Pathways I have heard people say it is a lousy state program that does no good just causes more problems. You need to keep up with the real world in your city and know what is going on.

Posted by: raceland taxpayer on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:51 AM
I too agree with Raceland resident the city does look substandard almost childlike or in my opinion tacky.Some examples being the rocks painted white to spell Raceland or the white fence with black plywood horses nailed to it.It would be better to have nothing at all than this.

Posted by: amused on Sep 18, 2008 at 05:33 PM
it look's like to me the only problem in Raceland. Is a City Clerk that needs to be fired for not takeing care of the taxes in 2006.

Posted by: Raceland Senior citizen on Sep 18, 2008 at 07:17 AM
to amused you apparently don't understand with Raceland's financial woes who wants to buy property in this city.I also think you are a very angry person and should seek anger management.Before retiring I worked for the state and can tell you pathways has a very good program.You should check into it.Get rid of your anger and the poor outlook on other people may change.Remember a happy person is a healthy person.I hope you are not a resident of the city nor an employee it would be disappointing to know we have people employeed with personaility disorders.

Posted by: AMUSED on Sep 17, 2008 at 02:55 PM
To dazed and confused if you are so disapointed with our city MOVE to Flatwoods or Russell you will still have the same thing . Russell & Flatwoods are the ones that raised the water to Raceland. You say you can read you must not have read the paper lately there were articles in the Ashland paper about the water hikes from Russell & Flatwoods how can a half-way smart person not understand that the city cannot pay the difference in the water bills for all the people in Raceland. As far as being upset over anything I'm not, I am a citizen of Raceland and think we have a nice town and I as a CITIZEN support my town. And if you and your friends are so interested why don't you ask about a ride program with the police some cities have that I don't know if Raceland has one but, you could check, and quit bellyaching. You as a taxpayer should be upset with the welfare & SSI Druggies and lazies and alcoholic that eat up this system because they live off people like us that work.

Posted by: dazed&confused on Sep 17, 2008 at 08:42 AM
I wholeheartly agree with Raceland resident.I hope amused also reads this and understands why we are "bellyaching"As I stated previously to amused\closer whoever I know you are employed by the city I don't like your stereotyping but I rest my case.This is why our city looks substandard almost childlike the ones employeed there have a brain the size of a bb.Also amused unlike you I can read and the police cruisers have Raceland,Russell,etc.etc. written on the side of the doors.Why are you so upset over this after all according to you & closer they have legitimate reason for being in these places.I am sure their logs can prove this by date & time?If you were a raceland property owner amused also would be concerned about property values.But it is obvious you have nothing invested to loose.

Posted by: Raceland resident on Sep 16, 2008 at 09:58 PM
My concern is the depreciation of real estate value. It will be much more difficult to sell a house in a city with such extreme utility costs, and if it can't be sold it probably wouldn't rent either.(renters would more than likely be flabbergasted at such a high water bill)We are living in a town where the infrastructure is depleted so bad it is shameful to drive on the street. The city roads and sidewalks are destroyed the tunnels flood every time it rains they are constantly fixing waterlines (daily in the winter)always seems like the same ones. Any work done to improve appearances in the city always looks substandard almost child like.Citizens of Raceland should Sue the city,then it will bankrupt.In it's current condition it probably would not take much to do this. Then a more organized city could take of over. i.e. Flatwoods or Russell

Posted by: AMUSED on Sep 16, 2008 at 09:13 PM
To Concerned citizen: You would not identify your self if you could , so if you are so scared stay inside and lock your door, you sound like a mealy mouthed coward , brave on here but runs and hides when necessary. When these people start taking pictures of the police cruisers make sure they are the right ones since they are all white and look alike to everyone, I can't tell who is who most of the time when they go by my house and I see all of them everywhere in the county. Of course I guess you smart people know all , yet you know nothing just a bunch of wacko geeks bored out of your mind. Do something worthwhile like support your city and Fire and Police depts. If you are truly a citizen of Raceland I'm sure they have served you and yours at sometime. Quit your belly aching and act like a CITIZEN , there you are!!!

Posted by: dazed&confused on Sep 16, 2008 at 08:38 PM
to closer sorry to burst your bubble but I am both a citizen & property owner of Raceland.No, I am not on welfare or ssi.But you are stereotyping those on welfare or ssi by stating"You bunch of know nothings take an interest in nothing except to jump in and critizise when you don't know what you are talking just a bunch of hot air , simply because it is dumb people like you that they have to deal with and that has to be a pain in the a**You are probably not a citizen of Raceland or a taxpayer, possibly a police hater and on SSI or welfare." Those who are on welfare or ssi also have the same rights as those of us who are more privileged financially.Their rights as are all Americans are guaranteed by the constition.You are very bigoted and I certainly hope for all our sakes you are not a police officer.Also regardless of your income level everyone has the right to voice their opinions concerning matters in the city.

Posted by: Frank on Sep 15, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Come to council meeting's.

Posted by: closer on Sep 15, 2008 at 01:03 PM
To dazed & confused, & concerned citizen:I happen to keep up with what is going on in my community, I know the people in our city and the PD I take an interest in the city in a helpful way. You bunch of know nothings take an interest in nothing except to jump in and critizise when you don't know what you are talking just a bunch of hot air , No I am not a police officer and have no desire to be one simply because it is dumb people like you that they have to deal with and that has to be a pain in the a** . I do know that when they are somewhere they have a reason to be there and not goofing off, you smart people that think you know all need to know what you are talking about before you spout off. You are probably not a citizen of Raceland or a taxpayer, possibly a police hater and on SSI or welfare.

Posted by: Curious on Sep 15, 2008 at 09:03 AM
To anon what does the gym to the new high school have to do with anything?The issue seems to be City of Raceland and how they are budgeting.The High School is an entirely different subject

Posted by: anon on Sep 14, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Oh how tragic. I guess they should not have built that new gym for the high school.

Posted by: dazed&confused on Sep 14, 2008 at 02:56 PM
Closer stated police dept take prisoners to greenup jail only.When you see the Raceland Cruisers in Ironton,Grayson,Lloyd,South Shore, Catlettsburg,double a highway,rt 60 in boyd county is this scenic routes to the Greenup jail?Imagine the cost we are paying for fuel,tires and maintenance on cruisers? I agree with Concerned Citzen all of us need to use our camera phones or video to take pictures.I too will vote for annexing.I believe closer and amused are the same person they have both said to quit hiding behind fake names and show our faces.Why wouldn't they do the same?It sounds like it must be one of our own officers trying to defend himself.10:30 a.m. this morning fire dept door opened and just loitering.Rather than sit and do nothing it was stated you don't need to have fundraisers because you get enough from fire taxes so why not have a fundraiser to help the city pay the IRS.After all you do use the facilities to play in and tell your tall tales that account for nothing

Posted by: concerned citizen on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:03 PM
This is to the person telling us to stay away.I have news for you if it wasn't for the citizens living in Raceland paying taxes you wouldn't have a city building or fire dept to play in.No one has the right to tell any of us to stay away from a public facility we are paying the price to keep open.This type of attitude is why we citizens feel the way we do. You sound as if you hold the deed to the place. If so please post it so all can see and we will stay away and keep our mouths shut as you requested.But before we do please reimburse us all monies we have paid for being a Raceland Citizen.

Posted by: Concerned Citzen on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:50 PM
Amused stated "WOULD NOT HAVE THE GUTS TO COME OUT OF THEIR HIDING PLACE TO DO THIS, AS LONG AS THEY CAN HIDE ON THIS BLOG THEY ARE BRAVE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHOW THEIR FACE." Notice the bullying and intimidating statements? Amused also used all capital letters shouting.Must be one of Raceland's finest.Why don't you use your real name.You scare me therefore I can't give you my real identity. I wasn't expecting the fire dept. to be funded by fund raisers alone.I understand where other funding comes from. But it would help to supplement extras for the dept.By the way I don't think the fish would be safe to eat from the ohio river.Oh yes the Raceland police officer that spent almost 2 hours down toward the South Shore area today what was the out of town duty? I know people who are going to start taking pics & videos of all of the police cruisers out of town duties.Then we citizens will expect answers when presenting these pics. to the council.I will vote for annexing.

Posted by: raceland resident on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:06 PM
I would like to suggest that maybe they should start enforcing ordinances..like condeming some of these properties that are in the city limits that are rat infested and falling down!! slap some fines on these people, the house on raceland ave has been setting empty and falling down, weed and rat infested for 20 yrs... look at the money that could have been made on that house,, but instead, it sets there with nothing done!! I guess shouldnt be a suprise that run down properties are ignored seeeing how the irs is ignored as well!!!

Posted by: To Anonymous on on Sep 11, 2008 at 01:30 PM
well as for the new truck you just barely got that, as I recall Ferrera fire was going to repo it for non payment cause the city didnt get the loan until after you got the truck. As far as your equipment from what im told you do have the best you have ever had and thats a great. All i have to say to that is take care of it cause from the way it looks you wont get any new for a while. CSX has donated to your dept in the past. When you have monkeys running the zoo the animals run wild and do what they want. To the city auction off what is payed for to pay your debts and get annexed. To all Raceland Citizens you need to vote for annexing its your only choice to get quality services, and cheaper taxes. whats next a water bill that costs you 200 dollars a month.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:55 AM
well if the dept is a joke no one says u have to come down there so be it. Stay away if u don't like the way we run things but u kno its funny we have a new truck and some of the best equipment that we have had in years and we don't get donations from csx we bill for every call that is how we got the equipment that we have now not from the city

Posted by: Ram on Sep 9, 2008 at 09:58 PM
CITIZENS OF RACELAND WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE LIGHTS WENT OUT????????

Posted by: AMUSED on Sep 9, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I HAVE TO LAUGH AFTER READING THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG!! IT IS PLAIN TO SEE THAT PEOPLE HATE POLICE, SO THAT IS THEIR ANSWER CUT THE POLICE, BUT , WAIT TILL THESE CONCERNED CITIZENS NEED THE POLICE AND HEAR THEM YELL. THESE PEOPLE LIKE TO ACCUSE THEM OF EVERYTHING , AND CANNOT BACK THEIR ACCUSATIONS UP IF THEY HAD TO AND WOULD NOT HAVE THE GUTS TO COME OUT OF THEIR HIDING PLACE TO DO THIS, AS LONG AS THEY CAN HIDE ON THIS BLOG THEY ARE BRAVE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHOW THEIR FACE. I HAPPEN TO LIKE OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND TREAT THE CITIZENS GREAT AND GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO HELP US, I KNOW MOST OF THEM PERSONALLY. AND AS FAR AS A FUND RAISER OR FISH FRY WHAT A JOKE , YOU WOULD HAVE TO FRY A LOT OF FISH TO PULL THIS OFF, I DON'T THINK THE OHIO RIVER HAS ENOUGH FISH TO HELP THIS PROBLEM. YOU BETTER SUPPORT YOUR POLICE AND CITY IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT RUNNING. WAKE UP SEE THE REAL PROBLEM.

Posted by: concerned on Sep 9, 2008 at 12:38 PM
To concerned citizen. The clerk is the problem, the police cruisers are not used for personal use at all, and yes R. Hale was among the worst Mayors ever, he proposed that Flatwoods take over the PD I was one in the city that attended that meeting and opposed this move, and it spelled out very plain that Flatwoods calls were the first to be answered and they would still use the Raceland PD Office to work out of at times and take all equipment that the Raceland PD had to use. In other words, Raceland would be paying a big fee and they would be 2nd in line for any call and Flatwoods would be priority and the citizens would be waiting for what ever time it took them to get to their call. Know what you are talking about before your opinions surface. R. Hale could not handle the Mayors position and quit into his 2nd year. And B. Selvage was guilty of everything he was charged with and was off for 30 days to go to special clases for his ignorance. So you think you know the answer? NOT!

Posted by: closer on Sep 9, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Where are all these smart citizens that have the answers and knowledge to run and solve the problems . Why don't you good , intelligent upright citizens run for council or Mayor then the problems would be solved and the city would prosper. Of course, if you were really sincere you would sign your real name instead of hiding behind a fake name. The first thing all the smart people come up with is to cut the police dept. but, if they need help from the police then they are the first to screawm. Why cut the police , this is not the answer, the problem is much bigger then this. Why not hire qualified people that knows how to do their job and they would not have this problem in the first place. This started when B. Selvage was Mayor. The police does a good job and they are not all over the place as you people say they are . If they are taking a prisoner to the jail they have to go to Greenup, The police go where the dispatcher sends them. See the reawl problem for a change.

Posted by: wondering about anon on Sep 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM
sounds like to me you need to conserve your resources more efficiently, there is alot of useless spending by the FD. Not to mention that no one wants to vol for your dept due to the lack of leadership by Chief Cochran and Dept Chief Burkes. I have spoke with current and ex firefighters from your department and they say and I also agree that your dept is a joke. your dept wastes more of the tax payers money than any other city dept. conserve and take care of what you got cause from the way it looks your not getting anything else. As far as getting donations thats good except when you get a donation from CSX then you turn around and send them a bill (more than what your worth)for response to there property.Also does your dept get what it wants one of yours is also a council member you know who im talking about ole one eyed willy.

Posted by: Raceland Senior Citizen on Sep 9, 2008 at 10:13 AM
feb.29,2008 Daily Independent state the following "Even though the money was paid for emergency services rendered by fire and police departments, Raceland’s city government has already spent the $21,000 it received from CSX. When Pete Cochran, the city’s fire chief and public works director, asked for money last month to purchase fire truck equipment, he was told that the money was not available. “Technically, all $21,000 came into the city,” Mayor Don McKee said at the Feb. 12 meeting. “Now the $21,000 is gone.” where was this $21,000 spent the Mayor said it was gone but the fire dept must not have got any of it. The state auditor definitely needs to take a closer look at the city spending.

Posted by: anon on Sep 9, 2008 at 03:21 AM
if u want to come down and plan these fish fry etc than u should come down and vol at the fire dept the city collects fire taxes every year for us to operate on and we should not have to do fundraisers for money we do get alot of things donated form diffrent organizations from time to time

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 8, 2008 at 08:50 PM
If everbody that is posting on this subject have all the answers. Why didn't they run for city office. What is done is done. Have a audit done then work together to get the city back on its feet.Past, present or future mayor the city without a large tax base will have money problems.

Posted by: Raceland onlooker on Sep 8, 2008 at 09:16 AM
This is to WOW the taxes owed are for 2006-2007.Bill Selvage was Mayor during 2006.McKee didn't take office until 2007 so HA!HA!HA! back at you Selvage was lousy too.

Posted by: Raceland Senior Citizen on Sep 8, 2008 at 01:05 AM
Daily Independent Nov.8,2006 stated " Selvage was elected mayor in 2002. During his four years in office, he faced accusations of sexual misconduct, fiscal mismanagement and dereliction of duty."So why would anyone think the citizens of Raceland want him back.By the way the IRS payment is from 2006-2007 year according to the above article. Selvage was Mayor during 2006 I guess his tenure as Mayor will also be audited by the State.So bring it on I am looking forward to this.I wonder what the city pays for gas a month on the city patrol cars.You see them everywhere.Also the city council and mayor need to learn how to live on a budget if you can't afford it cut back but don't use money owed to the IRS to pay for expenses. I love the way McKee blamed council members for overspending but why wasn't the IRS problem ever addressed during a council meeting?I am inclined to believe this was meant to be hidden from the citizens we pay enough now for their overspending and more is to follow.

Posted by: concerned citizen on Sep 8, 2008 at 12:35 AM
City clerk stated " she contacted the IRS in January to inquire about arranging a payment plan but didn’t hear anything back until she got a call from the bank Tuesday." Why would she not have followed up on calls to IRS after not having her call returned.She had from Jan.-Aug. to do so but why not start cutting police cruisers ect. also the personal use I have witnessed of police cruisers being used for personal needs such as shopping ect. why should we have to pay for the gas. How many fires does the city respond to in a year?Maybe instead of the fire dept. hanging out the firestation they should plan fund raisers such as fish fry,bean supper etc. we citizens would come out and support them.No we don't need Selvage back either.I felt he was a definite embarassment for our community with the different problems he brought to our community.I remember when Randy Hale was Mayor he suggested we pay Flatwoods police to patrol our city at the time I didn't agree but now I agree with him.

Posted by: Anonymous Raceland Resident on Sep 7, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Russell Gal - go back to Russell. This doesn't concern you. I'm sure there are people in your town who aren't perfect when it comes to grammar. This should not be turned into if people in the town of Raceland are expert spellers or use proper grammar. What this is about is the fact that our elected officials have no idea what their doing. If they did we wouldn't be in this mess and wouldn't be facing yet another water hike. As for the comment about boycotting water usage for a month, that's not the answer. Unless you plan on having your water service disconnected for the month and then paying the charge to reconnect the next month it's not going to help. Even if you never turn on the water, if you have water service in your home you're going to pay nearly sixty dollars. There's no quick and easy answer to this dilemma. The only way to fix this is for the county or a neighboring city to come in and take over or elect better officials in the next election.

Posted by: anon on Sep 7, 2008 at 02:39 AM
to anon 2 for your info the cable in the fire station and city bldg is free of charge and what about the ppl hanging out at the fire station i bet u would not complain when you house is on fire or u need something and those guys could be there quicker because they r hanging out there. Why don't u come vol. here. If u don't kno what u r talking about then don't talk at all. Who do u think pays the bills the firemen live in raceland to. so if they want to hang out so be it.

Posted by: Russell Gal on Sep 6, 2008 at 09:39 PM
I find it interesting that the people who pretend to know it all on this comment board are all pretty much illiterate! Gerald, good question – maybe the small amount of information given by the media is not enough for people to make snap judgments. I agree with Kane – if you live in Raceland, attend a council meeting from time to time! If nothing else, maybe hearing a few educated individuals talk will help you understand the English language a bit better!

Posted by: outraged on Sep 6, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Lets put them in jail till we figure this out.I am sure we have a crook somewhere!

Posted by: STINKS in Raceland on Sep 6, 2008 at 01:42 PM
We could boycot using water for a month then we could be as dirty as our city government and smell as bad as them too!

Posted by: Outraged on Sep 6, 2008 at 01:33 PM
We need to pull togeather as a community! We need to demand to see a copy of the books we have that right! The city would be better off if the State would come in and take over! We have proven over and over that the majority of the people will vote for any tom dick or harry that runs for office! Rather they have what it takes or not! They would vote Elmer Fudd in if cartoon charters could run for office. We wouldn't know how to act if we had a mayor like Flatwwods, Russell or even Worthington. They have great leaders!!!

Posted by: wondering about wondering on Sep 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM
No the City does not wish they had old Selvage back a lot of stuff went on with that dumb,dumb he could not do anything except run and hide. No thanks I attended the council meetings when he was Mayor and boy what a klutz he was he sounded like he crawled out of a cave somewhere couldn't even talk intelligent and was very rude to the citizens , the meetings were really a joke. Thanks but, no Thanks!!

Posted by: citizen on Sep 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM
To: Citizen 090308 post I too live in Raceland that is not (leave) and I didn't (not did'nt) know we were going to have (not half) to pay a higher increase in water because of the IRS, this is not so,there was an article in the paper Flatwoods that sells water to Raceland has raised their rates to their citizens and of course in turn it is raised to Raceland. The City of Raceland has to raise the rates to the citizens to balance the bills The City cannot pay the raise for everyone so get your facts straight , you are the one who sounds uninformed and ignorant. As far as Wurtland PD they have 1 Officer that does not even work his city he is in Greenup most of the time and he drives his cruiser home . As far as cutting I doubt if you have (not half) to cut anything we the taxpayers are probably supporting you on SSI or Welfare and you probably have a medical card and pay nothing. Your post and opinion sounds like you are illiterate and your use of words are very poor.

Posted by: Beth Ann on Sep 6, 2008 at 09:23 AM
Looks like Raceland residents are going to pay for their mistakes. How sad. http://www.dailyindependent.com/local/local_story_249174942.html

Posted by: GCres on Sep 6, 2008 at 08:16 AM
This is obviously what happens when officials are elected/hired for their popularity and not their ability. If citizens would start taking responsibility and elect officials who are capable of leading, not their buddy or their cousin, then we might see improvement in the way small towns are managed.

Posted by: Wake up People on Sep 6, 2008 at 06:42 AM
I find it funny yet pathetic that the city decided to raise the water rate.They suddenly decide it is time for a rate hike.This coming right on the heels of this latest fiasco with the IRS.Making the citizens of Raceland pay for their mistakes is the only way these bozos know how to fix things. I'm already paying $70 a month for water. This doesn't include the $20 a month I spend on distilled water because the city water isn't fit for human consumption. Maybe they should sell the city building to raise money. I'm sure Super Quik would let them put in a desk or two since city employees spend 90% of their time their anyway. WE need to stand up to these idiots and tell them we are tired of paying for their incompetence.These people need to be voted out of office.

Posted by: Kane on Sep 6, 2008 at 02:33 AM
The last time I checked the elected officials of the City of Raceland are answerable to the citizens who elected them. All Council meetings are open meetings & it's a citizens civic duty to involve theirself in the business of the city. Your responcability to your civic duty DOES NOT END at the poles when you cast your ballot. It's very easy & hypocritical to cast blame when you've possably never voted, only voted, or been to at most one council meeting in your life. Every registered & non-registered voter in the City of Raceland shares the responcability of this crisis. At least seven people stepped up to serve their city out of pride & a desire to give of theirselves. It certainly wasn't for the money or the "status". I doubt any ten random citizens could name more than one council person if asked. Go ahead, moan & groan, that's likely all you'll ever do about it. You should be embarassed. I am for you.

Posted by: NotBrainDead on Sep 6, 2008 at 12:48 AM
If this many people had been attending the council meetings, maybe you would be more knowlegeble about what was going on. The minutes are supposed to be read at every meeting along with the expenditures for the previous month. If people went to the meetings and listened to what is said, we could help those poor ignorant people running out city with their job of keeping up to date on what needs to be paid! As for asking churches to pray for the city, the church people are the ones who elected the mayor. He is supposed to be an a dedicated member of the church and boy do those people have an awakening coming as to what he really is! For one thing, he can't read so how would he have known if those tax bills were received or not. I wonder who really is running the city and I don't think we would have to look very far to see who that is! We need honest people in office who will do what's right. We've been raped by the officials long enough. Don't you think we need to make some changes?

Posted by: Gerard on Sep 5, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Interesting, however maybe not all true. Did the city fail to pay FICA and MEDICARE taxes collected from its employees, or did they fail to pay a TAX on a CAFR gain and profit.

Posted by: OHIO on Sep 5, 2008 at 09:50 PM
THE ,IRS SHOULD PAY A VISIT OVER HERE TO COAL GROVE. THERE IS SOME BODY STEALING OUR VILLAGE INCOME TAX .I AM SICK OF THE WAY WE GET TREATED HERE IN COAL GROVE. ALL THE WORKERS ARE DRUNKS!!

Posted by: Watcher on Sep 5, 2008 at 09:20 PM
To Anonymous FYI Russell City Office has 5 women working NOT 1 , sounds like you need to go back to school . Info for you is probably backyard talk like the rest on this blog that have no idea what they are talking about. Flatwoods has 4 or 5 in their office and the girls do take the waterd bills that is when the people decide to pay them,and there are other jobs they do in the office. If all the smart people with all the solutions that are on here bashing the city why don't some of you educated people run for office?? Then maybe you could straighten the city out.

Posted by: Joe on Sep 5, 2008 at 07:44 PM
I have lived here most of my life. I am 48 yers old and I have never seen this happen before. The mayor, the city council and all of the city employees need to be in church on their knees and ask God what THEY did wrong. They have let the residents of Raceland down. This is just an opinion but somebody from the government needs to make an official investigation at Raceland City Hall. If you are a resident of Raceland and you are reading this ask God to intervene in this. He will

Posted by: Greeup citizen on Sep 5, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Pony , Well, are you in the dark being fed mushrooms, Greenup Mayor & council spends foolishly and while the mayor is hanging flowers ad ferns everywhere and wasting more money (taxpayers money I might add) the police are running wild everywhere but, the city they are supposed to be protecting talk about wasting gas and they have 2 newer police cars ad 1 old car and a part time Police Dept. that look like terrorists. I really don't consider this a good mayor just someone playing and wasting TPM for no good reason. The mayor hasn't done anything that has impressed anyone except try to put on a show . Look around. The Greenup Mayor has done nothing to brag about, a joke. Mayor Veach is the only mayor that could run Greenup and keep in in the black fiancially. All I see is a bunch of flowers and ferns hanging at the city building and A "Sky High Water Bill" I pay every month. So don't tell me how great the city is being run. NOT, A JOKE!!!

Posted by: resident on Sep 5, 2008 at 04:58 PM
Well It appears to me that maybe the city of Raceland just needs to be shut down. WHEN You go in the city building to pay your water bill you are looked at as "WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE & WHAT DO YOU NEED" It Kills any of them to Wait on you. The Chief of Police is out in the Street Over seeing Weed pulling & pot hole filling on the Streets & Sidewalks. The Street I live on is Like the Indy 500..Never ever see a Police car. Maybe we the town of Raceland should just close up shop.And Yes for-sure the Water Bills will Raise ONCE AGAIN!!

Posted by: Anonymous 2 on Sep 5, 2008 at 04:50 PM
Hold onto your shorts people it's already got started. Today's paper says we get yet another water hike. The minimum water bill you will be able to pay will now be close to $60. That's if you never turn on the faucet. If you use the average amount of up to 4996 gallons (I think) it raises $3. That means the average water user in the city of raceland will be spending nearly $80/ month for water, sewer and garbage. I knew we would get the shaft again. We always have to pay for the mistakes of a city "government" that's more like a city "hang-out". I have no problem with the new fire truck but who said they needed to run it up and down the street giving the city council rides to show how nice it was. With gas $4/gal you'd think they want to conserve. NOT! Who pays for the cable tv in the city building for the ladies in the office to watch and the electricity so the vol. firemen can hang out and play basketball every evening? WE DO!!! It's definitely time for a change and SOON!

Posted by: Studious-5-9 on Sep 5, 2008 at 01:32 PM
I have lived in Raceland for three yerars, and I am ashamed of the Councilmen and women (not to mention the gramer of Racelands citizens.) Get some Priorities people. And don't mention that i shouldn't have voted for them because im 15.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 5, 2008 at 01:31 PM
MAYBE THE MONEY WENT TO THE RACELAND FOOTBALL TEAM AND WITH THE NEW BASKETBALL GYM. GO RAMS SPEND THAT MONEY . MAYBE THE BOOSTER CLUB CAN GET THE 97 THOUSAND DOLLARS BACK .. GO RAMS

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 5, 2008 at 01:30 PM
raceland is a good town. but we have some apples.

Posted by: Wake up People on Sep 5, 2008 at 09:18 AM
I have lived in Raceland most of life. It is a good place to live and raise a family.But I am sick and tired of paying for the city's shortfalls in revenue through a water bill.First they add a $10.00 dollar charge and then $5.00 to help fund the new fire truck.I agree the city needed another fire truck, but why couldn't they do like other financially strapped towns and buy a demo model and save thousands of dollars.From what I hear the city pays 100% of the health insurance premiums on their employees.I think they should do like most companies in America and make the employees pay a portion of the cost for their health insurance. We need educated people in office that can look at the numbers and weigh out all the options. Additional sources of revenue need to be explored ( such as a payroll tax)instead of passing the cost of of their bad judgement on to the citizens of Raceland. Wake up it's time for a change in government.

Posted by: what goes around, comes around! on Sep 5, 2008 at 03:50 AM
I recently attened a council meeting and let me say "what a joke that was" I was never so ashamed to say I lived in Raceland. One of our city council members sat with a mouth full of tobacco in his mouth, another answering his cell phone all while our mayor looked as if he had no idea what was going on anywhere. As a resident I was there with a problem and was trying to come up with a solution and some help from the city but instead I along with some others just got laughed at. Needless to say, the problem is still there. I've not lived in Raceland but just a few months now but this "pride" that everyone said would come along with living in this city is a joke. We pay some of the highest taxes in this state and still this is going on. I would not recommened to anyone to move here, it's to exspensive and your city council is nothing but a big joke!

Posted by: pocket full of money on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Sounds like to me someones got a pocket full of money or didnt do there job. I see annexing in the future.

Posted by: Hey john on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM
what the heck does that have to do with this story. wow

Posted by: unreal on Sep 4, 2008 at 10:55 PM
blind leading the blind down there!! maybe superquik will help out since they seem to spend quite a bit of time there anyways!!

Posted by: John on Sep 4, 2008 at 10:07 PM
In regards to the "Online Poll" for today, it is sexist in that as a media entity, the question has never been posed to a male candidate for President of the US, and was a father. JFK was a young father, and no one ever queried him about the balance between fatherhood and the Presidency.Had that question ever been raised, then it would be fair game to ask now.

Posted by: resident on Sep 4, 2008 at 09:56 PM
I think this is ashame, we have great community filled with good people who pay thier water bills monthly, pay thier taxes and then the IRS dosn't get paid. And this is the IRS fault for not sending more than 1 letter or bill showing the debt!!! Are we going to have yet another fee added to our water bill to fix this problem too? I would be tempted to sell my house but I don't believe there would be anyone interested in buying with all the riddiculous stuff that goes on here. I agree with "THE CIRCUS IS BACK" Who elected these people? Not me thats for sure.

Posted by: ANON on Sep 4, 2008 at 07:06 PM
To jeff. Racelands new fire engine cost around 250k. I know from first hand knowledge that none of that money was used on payments toward it. The fire dept. in raceland get it have it alot worse than any other service offer by the city. That new truck should have been there a long time ago.

Posted by: Just Wondering on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:59 PM
I was just wondering if all of you people that griped about Bill Selvage are the ones who put this guy in as mayor. Boy I bet you wish you had old man Selvage back!!!! Well except the police department, we all know where you stand. I heard the state auditors was the next in line to make an apperance. A little bird told me they are looking at the legality of all the user fees and they are going to make sure they are being used for there intended purpose. Well, we will see.......

Posted by: Pony on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:50 PM
If you want to know how to run a city just ask Mayor Hewlett from Greenup. She has got the city of Greenup on the track to having golden brick roads!! If anyone knows how to jump threw the loop holes its her. Just look at that new fire truck she help get the fire department and all the nice police cars for the policemans. I thank baby Jesus every night for Mayor Hewlett.

Posted by: Voter on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:25 PM
They are lying when they say they did not receive any notices from the IRS. They are notorious for excessive paperwork. Not only do they send regular mail, then they will send certified mail.

Posted by: Zap on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:21 PM
It's called voodoo economics,borrow from Peter to pay Paul and move cash from one to another account in a planned way so as to make it seem like a mistake is logical.Who's got the cash?IRS,,,,now!

Posted by: upset on Sep 4, 2008 at 02:53 PM
What happens if the bank don't give the city a loan?? I can't imagine any bank that would considering we can't seem to manage the money they get now. Will they try and raise our water bills again?? We have to pay a riddiculus amount now. And you can't drink it. They added $10.00 dollars a few years back $5.00 for roads and lines an $5.00 for general fund to bring in revenue (so they said), then this past year added another $5.00 per month $2.50 for the fire truck (I have no problem with that we needed it) but again the other $2.50 went to general funds to increase revenue. We can not afford to pay anymore for the mistakes being made. If you don't have the money don't by on credit, exspecially when you now you can't pay. Can the City file for Bankrupsy???? What happens in 2 weeks whenthe IRS comes for the rest of there money and its not here??

Posted by: Brenda on Sep 4, 2008 at 02:50 PM
The city clerk Ramona Barber stated in the emergency city council meeting "the IRS took the money to cover taxes withheld from employees over the last six months of 2007, plus interest and penalties". This was not the city's money, this is the federal income tax, social security, and medicare taxes withheld from the employee's paycheck. This is not something the IRS sends out a notice for, these taxes should be sent to the IRS, weekly, bi-weekly or monthly depending on the schedule set worth by the IRS. The would most likely be the responsibilty of the person doing payroll.

Posted by: Ashland on Sep 4, 2008 at 02:46 PM
The City Clerk can only report what needs to be paid...She could write checks all day long, but if the people that signs the checks don't, there is nothing she can do about it...her hands are tied...

Posted by: WOW on Sep 4, 2008 at 02:10 PM
HAHA AND THEY THOUGHT BILL SELVAGE WAS A BAD MAYOR ATLEAST HE PAID THE TAXES!!!

Posted by: Former Resident on Sep 4, 2008 at 02:05 PM
You know, I was raised in Raceland, Educated in Raceland and went to Church in Raceland up until the last couple years. One of the things they drilled into us was "Ram Pride". Pride in your School, pride in your town and most of all pride in your self. From reading these comments, I guess not all of us learned what I did. It is said that hardship shows the true character in people....it is sad what this hardship (that could have been prevented by the way)is showing the tri-state about the town I love with all my heart. The days of having a small town political scene are over. We need educated, informed leaders that are not ashamed of the town they are governing and not afraid of stepping on toes when making decisions for the betterment of the citizens. I for one would hate to see our town be dissolved, but right now it looks like the best option.

Posted by: opionated in Raceland on Sep 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM
To Jeff Fire trucks cost allot more than 97 thousand dollars. I think they need a new mayor that knows how to run a city! And maybe a new Clerk, why would you tell the police cheif about taxes not being paid does he runn the city and we don't know it??? People in Raceland needs to find out who is in charge, The Mayor or the police chief???

Posted by: Anonymous 2 on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:57 AM
I live in this town only for the benefit of the school system. It's really the only thing good about the town. The mayor and the council are a joke. They shouldn't have 3-4 women sitting in the city office petting a cat when their suppose to be collecting the water bills. Russell is a much bigger town and offers a lot more than Raceland and they only have 1 lady working in their office. Our city workers make nearly daily trips to Flatwoods McDonald's in the city truck for breakfast (I pass by there almost every day). Our police car is flying down 23 in Greenup past where I work. There are no lights or sirens as if it's an emergency. There are ways to cut costs if the city would buckle down. Just saying that they didn't pay the bill because the council didn't receive a bill it nonsense. If you are making money, you owe money. This town is definitely making money. Ask any citizen who pays nearly $100/month for water, sewer and garbage. PLEASE! Get a grip and get a new job!

Posted by: JEFF on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:52 AM
NOW WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM FOR THE NEW FIRE TRUCK.

Posted by: mad on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:49 AM
l just wanted to say that it is sad for a mayor to say that the fire dept cant take a fire truck to a fallen fireman funeral cause we never know one day it could be us and for two we cant cut back the police dept cause we need them they dont get paid good anyways but they do get half way good ins and that is good i think we have some good cops in raceland and i would hate to see any of them to leave because of this but no one in this city will ever know how important the police and fire is in this city tell they do it for them selfs. and to join with another city that could be good in some ways and very bad in others

Posted by: Great city on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Raceland is a great city to live in I mean drive thru. wait a minute who am I kidding the city is joke. When you pick idiots as department heads(fire,police). Then you vote in idiots to run the place what do you expect to happen. There lucky this didnt happen a long time ago they have been hanging by thread for years. Raceland give up vote for annexing from a another city maybe wurtland is interested.

Posted by: duh!!! on Sep 4, 2008 at 10:39 AM
the problem is when you go pay your water bill they have 3 ladies sitting in the office and none of them are doing anything

Posted by: jim on Sep 4, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Just goes to show that most elected officials are too stupid or too lazy to have a real job.

Posted by: Brad Pitt on Sep 4, 2008 at 10:18 AM
I would like to know the name of the bank that lent them money,i need a loan to.

Posted by: Beth on Sep 4, 2008 at 10:07 AM
I say Ex Raceland Officer said it all.

Posted by: unknown on Sep 4, 2008 at 09:50 AM
We all understand that we need to cut back but to tell a fire dept. they can't take a truck to a fallen firemans funeral but the police dept. can drive there cars home to southshore, greenup, russell and worthington but i guess they don't use fuel driving back ond forth. And why is these people still in office after making these mistakes 97,000 dollars is alot of money. Maybe the mayor will start running the city one day and not someone else. Ms. barber stated that she told the polce chief and mayor but not the council so who do u think is running the city. Not the mayor!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Raceland Citizen on Sep 4, 2008 at 08:05 AM
Well Greenup Co. Citizen I know you must be a very smart person. I do work ever sense I was 18 yrs old. You might be good speller. Reread what I said about the insurance and the cutting police dept. I didn't say to do away with their insurance??? I said go to cheaper plan. I live in Raceland will the policeman is never seen where I live. I don't see where Wurtland is pack off by thefts. I work for a government agency I see waste all the time. If you don't pay your bills or taxes the banks and IRS will come and get you to.

Posted by: The circus is back!!! on Sep 4, 2008 at 06:37 AM
Unforntunitally the the majority of the citizens in Raceland VOTED the Mayor and council to office. Those people have no right to complain about the latest mess the city is in you got what you voted for!!! Unfourtuantly the people who did not vote for this mayor and certain council members must have known somthing! People in Raceland needs to vote for someone who can run the city the right way make it a great place to live not a place were if they are not in the Newspaper they are on TV for something that should have never happened! I am ashamed to say I live in Raceland!!! Mayor you need to run the city the right way or step down!! I can't believe you said it's not your fault its the IRS fault!!! Give me a break!!

Posted by: Ex Raceland Officer on Sep 4, 2008 at 05:06 AM
Doesn't surprise me, I thought something like this would happen years ago, that's one of the reasons I got out when I could, it would suck not to get paid. And what local bank in their right mind would loan Raceland money, o yea, First and Peoples as always. Maybe the City needs to fire the clerk who is apparently not doing her job and hire back the accounting firm they had before. As for the dummy who thought Police Departments got money from tickets and drug busts, what fantasy world do you live in? Out of the fines you pay for a ticket $143.00 goes to the state and clerks office for court costs, the fine may be $10.00 of which the city DOES NOT GET. It's time that another city, like Flatwoods which already boarders a great deal of Raceland, takes over Raceland. At least the citizens of Flatwoods elects educated business minded council members. Better yet why doesn't the citizens of all of Greenup County demand Metro Government and then enjoy better services throughout the County

Posted by: BILL on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:11 AM
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK RACELAND POLITICIANS....MAKE KENTUCKY PROUD OF YA....

Posted by: hey good on Sep 4, 2008 at 03:33 AM
Cities do not get money from tickets, a long time ago they did but not now the state put a stop to that because there were departments that were abusing it. no your facts before you open your mouth. as for the drug bust i dont think they deal with that. drug busts are done by undercover units

Posted by: Hillbilly Laughing on Sep 4, 2008 at 02:32 AM
Who was so busy lining their pockets that they forgot/were too greedy to pay the taxes??? Even here in Vanceburg they're smart enough to pay the IRS.

Posted by: Chinn Street Resident on Sep 3, 2008 at 11:58 PM
I would love for WSAZ to place the raw video feed online so everyone can see everything that really went on behind the scenes. WSAZ has posted the raw feed to such things as interviews and speeches before, why not this one? Come on Randy show us what really happened. Thats why we come to this site. To see the truth not the edited verson.

Posted by: "Dick" on Sep 3, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Why when its time to cut somewhere does everyone say start at the police dept. I do not understand this, when your home alone at 3 AM and somebody is trying to get in your house , then you call the police for help. When things get rocky who do you wanna single out and pick on 1st THE POLICE DEPARTMENT!!! Why is that can anyone answer that???? Nobody likes the police dept. until they need help.....

Posted by: Greenup Co. citizen on Sep 3, 2008 at 11:12 PM
You leave in Raceland??? I thought it is "you live in Raceland"?? By the way it is "didn't,not did'nt.What a great idea,get rid of the police!!As far as Wurtland is concerned,it is only cover by the Chief when he is working,the rest of the time is is handled by Greenup PD or the Sheriff Dept.They do not patrol Wurtland.Who's watching it...Nobody! Raceland needs it Fire and Police.Period!Raceland nor do any other city receive the money for tickets.Let's take away your health and benefits,but you most likely do not work!

Posted by: tired of the crap on Sep 3, 2008 at 10:34 PM
saw this one coming for years!!!! its time to let flatwoods or russell take the city over and make it a nice place for people to live. we have people running our city who have no clue what they are doing and a police chief who has no business running anything but the police department which is about have ran anyways. people of raceland need to stand up and take our city back!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 3, 2008 at 09:52 PM
Sounds like the city fathers were doing a great job.

Posted by: aNOn on Sep 3, 2008 at 09:24 PM
Ask any accountant. You ALWAYS pay the taxes first. Then is you have any money left, you parcel it out to the other creditors.

Posted by: GOOD on Sep 3, 2008 at 09:20 PM
WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY FROM ALL THE TICKETS THEY WRITE!AND ALL THE MONEY FROM ALL THE DRUG BUST THEY HAVE DONE!

Posted by: what on Sep 3, 2008 at 07:52 PM
This is just about the most pitiful thing I have ever heard.

Posted by: FUNNY on Sep 3, 2008 at 07:51 PM
WELL THIS DOESNT SUPRISE THE CITIZENS OF RACELAND IF THERE NOT IN THE PAPER OR THE NEWS ATLEAST ONCE A MONTH THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG. MISS APPROPRIATED FUNDS IN RACELAND IS NOTHING NEW, IT HAPPENS ON A DAILY BASIS. QAULITY EMPLOYEES IN THE OFFICE IF YOU ASK ME.

Posted by: Raceland Citizen on Sep 3, 2008 at 07:04 PM
Well the people in Raceland better get a hold of their pocket books because we're going to half to pay for this with another fee. In the last four years or so we had a $10.00 fee and then a$5.00 fee put on us to keep the city out of hock. Looks like it did' help.I hope the state and the IRS comes in and let the people in Raceland know what is going on. I leave in Raceland and did'nt know that there was emergency meeting tonight. The Mayor and councilmen /councilwomen did't want the citizens to know about the meeting. Well if I don't have the money to pay my bills. I start cutting things. So it time the mayor and councilmen/councilwomen to start cutting . Start with the police force. If the City of Wurtland only has one working night shift also the police cars should be park at the end of the shift. Health Ins. someone said they have best pay everthing. Look at that for cheaper policy like everyone has with a higher deductions. Cut clerks & get a program that does acct's payroll,bills

Posted by: Concerned on Sep 3, 2008 at 06:22 PM
Seems to me the IRS could had taken a payment plan rather than all at once. However if Raceland was warned and the official ignored it then he should had known better.

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