Was Racism a Factor in Obama's W.Va. Primary Loss?
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Posted: 8:03 PM Sep 21, 2008
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HUNTINGTON, W.Va. (AP) - As Election Day draws nearer, West
Virginians are wondering how the first-ever black Democratic
presidential nominee will fare in their state.

Barack Obama was trounced in the May 13 primary, losing to
Hillary Clinton by a margin of more than 2-to-1. Perhaps the most
sensitive question about that loss is whether Obama's race played a
role.

At a conference held at Marshall University this weekend,
experts gathered to discuss whether West Virginia has a problem
with racism.

Former state Delegate Arley Johnson is convinced racism was a
factor in Obama's loss, and has told the campaign that sending
Obama here would be a waste of time.

But Concord University professor Jim White believes Obama will
do better here in the general election.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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Posted by: nell on Oct 15, 2008 at 05:45 PM
I'm from WV, having left, gladly, 30 years ago. What a backward, racist, redneck place -- even my own relatives are embarrassingly so. shame on WV (for the most part).
Posted by: tabitha on Oct 1, 2008 at 01:12 PM
YES TO COAL NO TO OBOMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WEST VIRGINIA NEEDS COAL MINNING JOBS!!!!!!!!! God bless america!
Posted by: t on Sep 24, 2008 at 02:06 PM
every canidate should visit every state.
Posted by: cin on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:13 PM
maybe i'm not following this obama thing close enough but, i don't think that obama chose to include this democratic state in his agenda during his tour did he? and i guess its ok for arley johnson to call us west virginians racist? i think its high time that white people get a race card of their own and start throwing it around.
Posted by: To John: on Sep 24, 2008 at 10:33 AM
"why is he ashamed of being white": He is racist. so is his wife. To me, they are quite hypicritcal. I believe he wouldn't get elected if he was white because he has nothing to say that would get him elected. He is using his color to act like he has the right to be president. He writes books letting the world know how much he hates whites, how much he hates the US, but most people have not read them yet. why do you think the "rumors" of him being muslim started? Because he wrote it. He may try to act like a black man who has risen from the chains that the white man put on him, but plain and simple: he is a lawyer and they are educated on how to speak. there are tons of dummies out there that speak intelligently and quickly so no one has time to think of questions. when you come right down to it, he really has no plans that would benefit us, nor does he have experience to know what could work.
Posted by: Brian on Sep 24, 2008 at 07:17 AM
Let's see, I do not vote for Nobama means that I'm racists or I do not vote for McCain/Palin because of a female VP means I'm sexist...Hmm Where's the news story of all those sexist that are not voting for McCain becasue of Palin? It will not be published because the media is so set on the "race factor". Anytime an African/American is involved & it does not go in favor of that person, you can guarantee RACE will be to blame. I was hoping that McCain would have picked Condi Rice or Colin Powell as his VP, just to see how it would change the "Race factor". Go McCain/Palin!!!
Posted by: K. on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Obama could be any color from the crayon box and I still would not vote for him. I think he's a lying sheister lawyer! I don't let the color of his skin decide for me, its what he doesn't say that scares me away from him. He can't be believed!
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:19 PM
Doesn't matter what color his skin is to me! I would vote for Colin Powell! I just think Obama is a lying idiot, that still has not produced his birth certificate!
Posted by: Lee on Sep 23, 2008 at 06:35 PM
Leroy! Are you stupid?
Posted by: Darrell on Sep 23, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Green, I understand your point about people voting for him, because he is black. But, when else has anyone had the chance to vote for a black person for president?
Posted by: molly on Sep 23, 2008 at 03:46 PM
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Posted by: The Laz Man on Sep 23, 2008 at 01:55 PM
Technically, he is not "Black", he is a real AFRICAN/Kenya (Father)-AMERICAN/Kansas (Mother). If the media would stop shouting at the top of there electric lungs about race then perhaps the American people can get to the bottom line...will this Obama/Biden team be best for America? Help me here somebody, if I cross a Yorkie with a Shepard does that make the offspring a freak or is it still a dog? Cut the crap America and get with reality!!! We are all human beings!!! Vote with your heart and not with hatred that even you can't explain!!! That The Way I See It....
Posted by: Carlinda on Sep 23, 2008 at 01:12 PM
I also think that racism was an issue. In the May 13th primary the only reason that Hillary Clinton beat Obama was because I think that people would accept a woman for President before they would a black man. Not only in West Virginia, but anywhere. People need to wake up and take a close look at America and the situation that the country is in, not to mention themselves. There is no way that McCain is going to do any different than any other Republican President has done. Especially since McCain voted the same way as Bush on several different things.....so what makes people think that he's going to do any different. In my opinion.....I think that America needs a young President that can deal with the issues that's going on in this ever changing world....not someone that older than dirt and will do nothing but what George Bush has done...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: John on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM
He is half white. If he felt it would help him get elected he would say what he really is....biracial. Why is he ashamed of this?
Posted by: HA on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Charles Carrol is a moran to say and think that stuff about Obama...come on get a clue and read up...
Posted by: Leroy on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM
poeple yor missin the hole point here, its not because hes black, its cause hes a muselem, thats why poeple dint vot fer em. i fer one hop he wins, it will be a beter contry if he dos.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM
From Dreams of my Father - Obama Book:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.';I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race';'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names';It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela'; and worst of all, from Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction'. Whose the racist? I see someone who wants to take a stand and make his presidency about racism, not the American people as a whole. I think the US has made up for the slavery issue with all the programs offered that no other heritage has or is able to receive.
Posted by: yeehaw on Sep 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Probably less that he is partly black than those who believed the rumors he was muslim and akin to the anti-Christ. Better tote you guns and Bibles cause Armageddon's a-comin' you backwards hilljacks!
Posted by: To Lori on Sep 23, 2008 at 10:31 AM
I must again disagree. I am, by far, racist. You almost seem like you want to vote for Obama BECAUSE he is black. I have dark skin, although I am not african american, I don't care what color his skin is at all. You are completely wrong to stereotype anyone that DOESN'T vote for a black man. Are you telling me that no black people would be a Republican? You should give the people of WV a little more credit and understand that we do have brains and do think. And, really, just because life was hard on Obama for being biracial, that would be no excuse to become a racist. I am a woman and trust me honey, life has been hard on me because of that, but I don't try to be a man because of it. I really hope that others do not think the way you do because someone could be in office simply because of skin color and not because of their brains and plans for the US. Do you know how messed up that would make the US? Sounds like you are racist, or maybe you don't like old people.
Posted by: Lori on Sep 23, 2008 at 09:52 AM
TO ASHLEY, I didn't say that a republican president presided over the Syphalus program or the LSD. I was making a point that our govt. had instituionalized programs that hurt Americans especially black Americans. Not to mention what was done to the Native American. You obviously need reading comprehension classes. To Green, African Americans are prodominately Democrats. Alot of them had questions when he first started reunning. People started listening to what he was saying and proposing, weaving personal responsibility with collective responsibility. Bringing all sides to a problem, and finding common ground for the sollutions. I really like the Clintons. I did not want our Democracy compared to Dynasty of BUSH/CLINTON/BUSH/CLINTON. The only falt I had with them was that Hillary didn't come out in the beginning of the scandel while in office and said, "THE ISSUE OF INFIDELITY IS A PERSONAL ISSUE BETWEEN MY HUSBAND AND ME"! None of my business.
Posted by: To: WVMomfrom Eli on Sep 23, 2008 at 09:15 AM
Gee WVMom, my comments were directed at the openly racist and blatantly stupid, but if the shoe fits. If you are so smart, then why do all the "values voters" get burned by the Republicans election after election? Is abortion illegal? Are gays getting married right now? This is after eight years of Bush. All the pro-lifers and right wingers get carted out once every four years, then it's back to business as usual. This is the way they get the unwashed masses to vote against their own best intrests.I don't claim to be highly intelligent, but I'm smart enough not to side up with some of the klansmen that post on here. Sorry to say I don't care for "old timey" music, I'll leave that to you and your musical spoons.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:54 AM
Go to you tube and type in WV voter racism and you can see an AP news video with countless people admitting race was a factor. The amount of people that voted for Hillary that are now voting for McCain sickens me because you couldn't base that decision on the ideas and policies of the candidates. Hillary & Obama = similar... McCain & Hillary = completely opposite. It's also apparent that many of you need to educate yourselves on Obamas tax plan and gun control policies. Middle class families will receive a larger tax break with Obama than McCain, and Obama is not taking away any of your guns. Just read the story about all the UMWA blue collar workers and see that at least some people care enough to get educated and spread the word about the truth.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:25 AM
number one obama didnt win hillary won the peoples vote didnt count or she would be running not him as for him being black has nothing to do with it he ant for the black or white he just useing his black side to win the black votes and that si not right he is a Muslims who you can not trust. he lied over and over again. wake up people he put us ina third world do we want that no. he wasnt even born in the usa .
Posted by: Nota chance on Sep 23, 2008 at 07:55 AM
OBAMA in the White House!!!!9/11 all over again! I'll give my vote to ScoobyDoo first!!!!!!
Posted by: james on Sep 23, 2008 at 07:41 AM
I guess you people voteing for McCain like your tax dollars going to pay CEOs a big bonus or even a 400,000. this golden parachute policy is crap. Why should we even bail any company out? Why not bail out the people looseing thier homes. when I was laid-off where was my bonus? heck I didnt run the company into the ground. bailin out a ceo thats the republican way. hope very one (man, woman, and child) likes being 10,000 in debt and paying for the ceos third or fourth vacation home, while you can barely keep your first home. makes alot of sense to vote for another republician.
Posted by: green on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:41 PM
So, how many people out there are voting for him solely because he IS black? I'll agree that for many race is a big if not the main factor for their choice. But what shouldn't be forgetten is that not everyone is like that. To suggest that an entire state votes this way is in itself, a form of prejudice. What I find hilarious is all this talk of racism when the person in question says things like "typical white person." Explain to me how that is not a racist statement.
Posted by: concerned on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:41 PM
We are in trouble - we don't have much of a choice in Nov - God help us all
Posted by: to Ashley on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I did not say that the DELEGATES are under no obligation to represent the votes of their constituents. They are, and they did. The superdelegates are NOT the same as pledged delegates and they are not obligated to vote according to their constituency. Hillary did indeed get all of the pledged delegates that she WON. The superdelegate votes were not up for grabs in the primary election; they are able to cast their vote as they choose. The people who voted for Hillary did not lose their vote in the primary; she simply did not win enough. Perhaps you need to educated yourself on the electoral process; this is they way the primary is always run.
Posted by: Ashley on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:24 PM
TO WOW: Why in the world would you think delegates and superdelegates are under no obligation to voice the opinion of their constituents? Are you so blind that you fail to see that our ELECTED officials do not care about what their people want and need? As an elected official, it is their DUTY to vote as those who elected them have voiced, nay OBLIGATION! It doesn't scare you that our representatives said, "We don't care what you guys think, this is what we are going to do." It doesn't bother you that your vote may not count? Didn't this same thing happen in 2000 with Florida and Bush? Did that not bother you either?
Posted by: Ashley on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Lori needs a history lesson.... For starters, the LSD experiment was done completely by the CIA over the course of roughly 20 years, this time period covered 4 presidents, three of which were democrat. The Tuskegee Syphyllis experiment covered 40 years, 7 presidents, 4 of which were democrat. Finally, the greatest thing about America is that we do not have to define ourselves by party politics. We are free to choose whatever leader we would like to. I, personally, would love to see either or both parties overturned and a rebirth of our nation as it should be. Remember: for the first 125 years of US history, political coupes defined a Patriot. A party would become corrupt and the people would choose a new path. Currently, so many of us are just believing the BS coming from the GOP and DNP!
Posted by: charles carroll on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I grew up in the 50s and had a couple friends who were black , my dad had to explain that we couldnt take them to a movie because they were'nt allowed in the theater ,that summer I found out they couldnt swim in the public pool with me . Its hard to understand when your 5 about racism . I always new it was wrong the way blacks were treated it never stopped bothering me .Barock Obama has felt these things in a more personal way most of us white people cant even imagine . what it must feel like to be disliked because of your skin color .Barock Obama holds the promise to be one of the greatest men of our time , its there to see in his stature , his dignity , his wisdom and his determination .I hope on election day West Virginians can see the man he is and not his skin tone
Posted by: Lori on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:54 PM
My father who has been dead 20 years was a republican in the true fashion of Lincoln. The republican party is not the party of Lincoln anymore. I have voted for republicans in my time also. I have voted for Shelly Moore Capito for years. I won't be voting for her this year, because of her support for the Bush policies that have wrecked this country. If a true Democrat would pick McBUSH over Obama, There is racism involved. My father didnt rais me to be racist. I only learned of racism in Jr High. The reasons Obama struggled with being black was the way he was treated y both sides. Thank God things have changed some in the way people treat children who are biracial. That was the only reason my father didnt believe in interracial marraige. He loved kids of all races and could not tolerate people hurting a childs feelings because of what their parents did. He also worried about losing both cultures which he respected very much. Alot of republicans are racist. There, I said it
Posted by: Totally confused Now on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:36 PM
Okay Now lets get it right folks. What in the world are we doing or Should we say What should we be doing? here it is Well first lets get it up front here this has nothing to do with Race. What is important here is the people of the United States have a voice. And WV is a part of that Voice. Obama is a snake in the grass. No Matter what the Color he is a time bomb . And If he is elected we will be the casulties both black and White. So Give it break not veryone is against the Black Folks< It is Just some of us are using common sense here and Not Political pull, Obama is a Power Hungry Pig if he was white he'd still be the same. He has no desire to better our country . he just wants to be the First Black Man as president. But Behold once and I f he does get in it will not be pretty at all for any of us.
Posted by: bill on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:25 PM
give obama a chance color dont make a difference white man has run this great country for over 200 years lookat the mess where in like daddy has always said as long as you have a republican in office you will never have anything so vote democrats all the way and save america
Posted by: Adam on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:53 PM
The only reason Obama is losing in West Virginia as a Dem is that he is so far left that in my opinion, he scares even the most hard line liberal. The fact is, no one knows if Obama has ever had an original thought, once off the q-cards he stammers and uh,uh,uh's so much that if you actually listen to him you forget what the question was. This has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with intelegence of which Obamo has none.(along with all the others that think it does)If Condie Rice were running she would have my vote over McCain any day, but we have to go with what we've got.
Posted by: SO SAD on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:53 PM
I just want to send out a quick message to those of you on here that have questioned things such as "all black" fraternities/sororities or Black alumni Associations. Do you realize that as recent as 40 years ago or less, there were fraternities and colleges in the US that would not accept blacks. That's the reason that predominantly black colleges and organizations exist in the first place. But if you did a little research, you would learn that these institutions not only fully except members of ANY race, they actively recruit them. And if amy non-black chose to enroll/join they would actually be provided with minority status and the ability to receive scholarships as minorities that had to be created for blacks and other minorities that were denied in ALL WHITE fraternities and sororities and schools for 200 years. Someone actually used the term reverse racism on here, but I ask you, if racism doesn't exist as some of you claim, HOW COULD IT BE REVERSED?
Posted by: Rob on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:42 PM
Okay, let me see if I understand this..... If you didn't vote for Hilary your sexist. If you didn't vote for Obama then you are racist. So does that mean that if you voted for Bush or if you are gonna vote for McCain you're officially stupid?
Posted by: To Lori on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:13 PM
Are you saying that Republicans are racist? Because it doesn't matter if a Democrat votes for a Republican, it doesn't mean they are doing it because they don't like black people. Who are the people that don't like Italians, Hispanics, Irish, German, Asian, supposed to vote for if voting for McCain means you don't like blacks. Remember, there are not two types of people in this world, there are several, so if you try to play the race card, don't be so selfish, tell us who we should vote for depending on what heritage we like or hate. What you have said is about the stupidest thing I have heard. You want to hear racism, read Obama's books about how he tried his hardest to be black because he didn't want to be white, like his mother. Also, you need to realize, Lincoln was a republican, so your argument is moot. When there is the Internet to help you research this stuff, there is no excuse for YOU to be ignorant.
Posted by: carol on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:04 PM
I do not believe a vote for Hillary Clinton was racist. The 70 percent tally...all were racist?? Honestly, I voted for Hillary in SC because she was the only one discussing the issues with a specific plan. Should the 60 percentish who voted in favor of Obama in SC be considered racist as well? I am a white woman who voted for Hillary because of her experience with healthcare and grasp of economic issues. I felt Obama did not have the experience. And guess what, that is what the Republicans are attacking, and can you blame them? (SArah Palin doesn't have any experience either, by the way.) However, I am voting for Obama because I do not believe in trickle down economics, deregulation of everything, and I haven't heard a heart-felt plan addressing changing healthcare. S
Posted by: Wow on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:51 PM
It's clear from many of the comments on WSAZ (including some on this story) that many WV voters are either racist or sadly undereducated. A few points: black voters overwhelmingly skew Democratic. If the majority of black voters vote for Obama in the general election, it's not "because he's black." Hillary got all of the primary votes that she won, including those from WV - Obama didn't steal her votes and he didn't fix the election. He won by a majority and he won fairly - the superdelegates are not pledged to vote in any way but that of their choosing. Many of Obama's fellow parishioners are white - they don't "hate white people." The comments from Rev. Wright do not reflect the teachings of the church in whole. Many will vote for McCain because they prefer his platform; that's not racism. Many will vote for McCain because Obama is "a muslim" or "doesn't wear a flag pin" or "he refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance" (all FALSE allegations) - and that's ignorance.
Posted by: Lori on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:26 PM
FACE IT! If you are a Democrat voting for McCain instead of Obama, the Democratic nominee, or Ralph Nader, the Independent nominee, the YOU are a Racist. McCains policies are in full line with the Republican Agenda. You can use the excuse of his church, which you only heard a snippet of, not what the character of Rev. Wright really is, A veteren of the Vietnam War, who lived through some of the most public endorsed racism era of our times. If you doubt what he said is tru, just look on line about govt. sponsered giving of syphulus to black men, govt, sponsered use of LSD to practice mind control. Muslim fanatics don't hate us for our freedom as GW would have you believe. It is because were in their homelands with our military prior to 9/11. And now we are smack dab right in the middle of it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Packistan. If you choose to be ignorant, ok. But there is no excuse when you have the internet to find information. Just be careful of Right or Left wing propaganda.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:43 PM
When Obama was caught speaking about people negatively & didn't realize he was being heard, that told the story about how he feels about US. I have news for all of you...people who live in Appalachia have been discriminated against for years (as evidenced by some of the comments directed to "us stupid hillbillies"). I'm not voting for Obama because he supports abortion & a platform that I vehemently disagree with (yes, I do know big words!). I am smart enough to realize that there are going to be people EVERYWHERE who are racists & will let that affect their vote. However, I honestly do not believe West Virginians, as a whole, are like that. If Obama & his supporters aren't careful, though, they will alienate this entire state. West Virginians don't take well to being downed, ridiculed, and treated like trash. Suggesting we are all racists & are stupid is going to just hurt his campaign. There are West Virginians & their relatives all over this country.
Posted by: Obama = Wolf in Sheep's Clothing on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:08 PM
What's making him less popular in WV is the fact that he doesn't support gun rights & I'm not racist at all unless you call Muslim and white-people-haters a race. The blacks/Muslims are the racists here. They will vote for him just because of his race and nothing else. And if he gets elected, just watch where all of the support/funds will go -- to his race alone! The press should quit bringing up race unless they want to talk about how racist the black people are being. Most in WV wanted Hillary anyway but that was all fixed. WV, please don't be ignorant and re-elect these same democratic delegates! They screwed up the entire election for you. And please pay attention to the views and messages of the church he attended for YEARS. They hate white people, just like the terrorists who killed so many of us on 9/11. Don't support terrorism. How long did you think it'd take them to trickily bring their kind in where Americans like them? Thank uneducated Hollywood for one. USA open you eyes!
Posted by: Rob on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:01 PM
People are not voting for Obama because he is nothing but any empty suit phoney. I really think most people can see right through him.
Posted by: Claudette on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:00 PM
I could care less what color the man is.....he's just not trustworthy, in my opinion. He avoids honest questions, he turns his head from our men and women who serve this country, and on and on. Politicians aren't people I trust ANYWAY, but THIS one is even more dishonest.
Posted by: Ro on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:24 PM
who do you want for president,a man that says we cling to our guns and religion,who is for the killing of babies,take our guns,a former drug user,who has a militant wife,and God knows his relationships to radicals,Shabaz,Wright,Sharpton,Jackson..........or a decorated war hero,who loves his country
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:24 PM
"I didn't vote for him but he's my president, and I hope he does a good job." -John Wayne, Republican "Waaaah! Waaaah! Racism! Big Oil! Big Drug Companies! The Electoral College is stupid!" -Whiney McCrybag, Democrat
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:20 PM
To bad the south didn't win at least then the idiots would have there own country.
Posted by: Mad on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:19 PM
I am proud to say that I am a white female from W.V. voting for Obama!!! This country needs change and I believe he is the one to make that happen. Do we really want another George Bush in office again? That is what you would get voting for McCain! And yes, race was definitely a factor in the W.V. Primary. Some West Virginians need to stop being so closed minded and open their eyes. Like I said, we don't need another Bush in office. Vote OBAMA in November!
Posted by: Dottie on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:11 PM
Yeah we don't want a black president anyway.
Posted by: Fed Up on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:54 PM
Right on Pablo! How come they can have all black fraternities/sorrorities, but if it was the reverse, Al Sharpton and the NAACP would be there in a heartbeat. There is much more reverse racism going on in this country, and it's accepted.
Posted by: Concerned citizen on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Race was a factor. Lies and internet smear chain letters were and also are a factor. Intelligent people believe Obama is a Muslim, simply because of his name. He can't help what he was named and who his father was. Time and time again he has stated he is a Christian. Regardless, because of his dark skin, there are people in Appalachian who will not vote for him. I'm probably one of the few middle aged white men supporting him. Even diehard democrats will not vote for him. They are prejudice and that will never change. Even though McCain and Palin are not good candidates. This country is in a mess after 8 years of Bush. He may be the worst president since Hoover. If you want more of the same, vote for McCain. If you want to see CHANGE then vote for Obama and Biden. Please !!!
Posted by: WV Mom on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:53 PM
To Eli:My goodness but your ignorance is obvious.No democrat has ever made it to the whitehouse w/o winning WV.People like you are why WV has the negative profile that it does.I am from WV and I am far from stupid.I know that Obama will never win this state.Racism works two ways!Black Miss America?Ebony Magazine?Black Entertainment TV?Someone mentioned a cruise for black alumni of Marshall.Let's get real here.I am not voting for Obama because of his association with a racist church,because I feel his wife is racist,he believes in abortion,gay marriage and I could go on and on.I am proud to say that I am a republican politician in WV.I am so sorry to disappoint you, Eli, we no longer use "warshboards or blow on jugs", we have left that for people like you to do.
Posted by: Brenda on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Have you noticed it is only racist when white vote against black.
Posted by: dee on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Who cares if he's colored? I would vote for someone whoes name sounds like Osama.
Posted by: Yeah right! on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I suppose everyone didn't see this one coming! I don't know about everyone else but this excuse is getting very old.
Posted by: JIM on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Of course race was a factor. all you have to do is read comments from the last few months. OBAMA/BIDEN 08
Posted by: Amy on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Further, it is so vital to this country at this time, that we have a pres. who can work w/ the dems, repubs, and indep. Hillary would have been (and McCain will be) much better at that than Obama will ever be. Personally, I'd like for these party affiliations to just go away!
Posted by: Amy on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I'm sure that, w/ some people, the fact that his "father" was black" meant that they wouldn't vote 4 him; however, that # is way less than the # of black people who are voting 4 him simply because he is 1/2 black. I am sooooooo sick of hearing that he is a racist. Sen. Obama is a very, very far lefty, Hillary isn't as far left and she is a Christian. Sorry but I wouldn't be supporting someone who went to and supported a church like the one Obama was a member of. I want someone who is patriotic and LOVES this country and care more about OUR country than the rest of the world. Hillary fit THAT description wayyyy more than Obama. In this election, I will be voting 4 McCain. And, yes, I am a Republician. That being said, there are several issues that I disagree w/ McCain on, but there are many more issues that I disagree w/ Obama on. I mean, when he actually gives a straighforward answer. I liked HRC. I want someone who can answer ?s and not 'beat around the bush' so to speak.
Posted by: Pablo on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Of course race made a difference in the primary election. Race is alive and well in West Virginia. Just look at Marshall University's Alumni Association. Every year they have a "Black Alumni Association Cruise." I graduated from Marshall University and hate to see my school supporting racism. But here they are, supporting a cruise for blacks. And for anyone that doesn't think that is racist, just change the word "black" to "white" and see if it isn't racist. Marshall University, I'm ashamed of you for allowing yourself to be used this way.
Posted by: Used-to-be-Dem on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM
I am highly insulted that the race card has to be played in this election. This is American and you can vote for whom ever you like and I like John McCain.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Race probably does have something to do with it but not in the way some may think. I believe that the "Yellow Dog Democrats" finally were forced to look at their values and not the "D" at the top of the ticket. Many of them have voted blindly for years not necessarily evaluating what they believed but doing "What my Daddy did." I've been reading the comments on this website on many issues and the comments are very conservative in nature. What Obama's presence on the ballot does is force people to "read the label." They are realizing that they have been sold out by the liberal left and will be voting their values. It's not about BLACK and WHITE but it is about RIGHT and WRONG!
Posted by: KY on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Hmmm...wasn't it WV fearless leader Robert Byrd who used the "N" word not too long ago? That old bag of wind keeps getting voted back in by the West Virginians, kind of makes you wonder doesn't it?
Posted by: W Terry on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:27 AM
I'm so ashamed of my heritage for their closed minded reasoning about such an important event. The color of a mans(or womans)skin is not the issue.Do whats right - not whats white.
Posted by: MrObvious on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Can't we just not vote for him because he is a Liberal Socialist from Chicago? That's enough in my book.
Posted by: martha on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:16 AM
i wish people would quite using the race card. if the nominees would all just constraite on what is wrong with our country and get their heads together , would be a much better place in which to live.
Posted by: Charlie on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:11 AM
MCcain says we are fighting two wars, he left out the war the American people are fighting against a corrupt & greedy government. He has sat in Washington for yrs. & yes he was there all the while our country's economic & civil rights & the Constitution was being attacked along with the war in Iraq he responded then by stating and voting with George Bush by his own admission 90% of the time. How can he say now he has something new to offer America? Making this election more about race & gender along with all sorts of distractions is exactly what the folks in the MCcain campaign want to do they don't really want it to be about the issues we should be concerning ourselves with ,why? Because the only thing MCcain has new or old to offer is more George Bush politics. We can not allow those who are out to distract the American people do so----again..
Posted by: Paying Attention on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:09 AM
He won't if someone does not tell him to pay attention to this area. He won't come. He won't send any of the other five campaigners. He refuses to send signs and David P. cursed when asked about it, I do not feel any care in the area. Do you? I would like to see Obama - Biden win however I would like to feel the electric in the air as we see in other areas in the USA.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:08 AM
If they could afford servants on food stamps they did pretty good. Of course around here food stamps were always sold for cigs, beer and moonshine.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:07 AM
You know what is really sick about all this? The number of men from this area who fought in World War II to defeat Hitler and his racism now their decentdents are just as racist as Hitler.
Posted by: Brian on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:05 AM
I'd say absenteeism is the only "ism" that was detrimental to Obama's primary campaign in WV. He graced us with his presence only two or three times, while Hillary, Bill and Chelsea lived here. Heck, Chelsea even celebrated her birthday at a restaurant in Charleston. Obama (who frequently plays the race card when he finds it beneficial) didn't even try to get to know the people here. He claims to be a uniter, a fighter and a leader. He demonstrated none of those traits here and instead, subtly tried to portray us as racist, backwards hillbillies. Let us cling to our guns and religion (racists... give me a break).
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:04 AM
At least Joe is honest. Stupid but honest. For it to not be racism everyone sure got their oats all stirred up. The intelligence of this area is shown in the comments and the attempt to spell and try to communicate. Not selling it very well however.
Posted by: C on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Is this really a question that needs to be asked about our great state? Of course racism is a factor here and everyone should kill the false indignation and just accept that fact. Whatever you choose to believe or feel is your choice and if you choose not to vote for a black man or a woman because of your beliefs then be willing to stand behind that. The "race card" is a term that was created by racist people to mask that racism and try to make it an excuse. Trust me when I tell you that racism is as prevalent in WV today as it has always been and if you think that it's not, then I invite you to a week in the life of a black person in WV for a week. Again, I'm not telling you to change your outlook on life, if you're racist or sexist, then quit acting so shocked when someone calls you on it. Unfortunately for WV and America there are way too many people out there who still judge by the wrong things, but the bigger problem is that so many fight harder to hide than to end it
Posted by: Voter on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Sue is right. Hillary should be the Democratic nominee. The he-man woman haters aka "Superdelegates" threw her under the train, and only have themselves to blame for losing the election to McCain.
Posted by: Sean on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:43 AM
I lived and grew up in WV and it is my opinion that all West Virginians are just plain ignorant. I am supporting Barack Obama because I think we do need to heal our country and especially improve our world relations.
Posted by: Dave on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:35 AM
Barack and Hillary agree on 99.9% of the issues such as health care and the economy. I you redneck morons don't believe that WV is racist then you're kidding yourself. Oh and a LOT of you should really consider taking a class to learn how to read and write. Most of these posts usually look like they were written by and 8 year old.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:34 AM
Why does everything have to be about the color of someone's skin in this state? Honestly! His loss has to do with him as a person. I can remember having more money in my pocket when Bill Clinton was president. SO, I voted for Hillary! People need to get over themselves. I do realize that there is a racism issue in this state, but there is racsim everywhere. This is also inclusive of reverse racism. I've had racial slurs tossed at me for being white on several occasions, just for walking down the street. I've also been shot at for being white. Everyone, inclusive of ALL ethnicities, needs to get with it and at least TRY to live in peace. JEEZ. I'm actually starting to hate this state and the ignorance of it's people.
Posted by: Jim on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:31 AM
I really feel that people felt closer to the Clintons and race had very little to do with it.Of coarse Doug hates Muslims so he's excused.Matt likes McCain's experience remember the Keating 5? yeah,real pro,thank God he and Bush didn't get the chance to put our Social Secur4ity money in the as they tried so hard to do.And Lisa,looks like Obama has your vote if you are really studying how McCain has and will handle our economy.Welcome aboard the truth team.
Posted by: Lori on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:30 AM
Yes Racism is an issue. I am white, interacting with other whites, in the privacy of their homes stating, "If Obama wins, Whites will be put into slavery",or "I don't trust him, theres just something about him",or "He's Muslim",or"I can't get past his name", or all of the other comments they make. For those that say NO, it isn't Racism. Just ask yourself, Why the Democratic nominee is not further ahead in the polls when BESH/CHENEY, Republicans have been in office for 7 and a half years and have destroyed EVERYTHING! I just hope that our youth make the difference in this election. Most of them will not let race be an issue. And my hope is their parents really look and see what is at stake. I firmly believe that if McCain gets in, there will be a draft. We need a thought ful, President who is willing to talk first, and use military action as the last resort.
Posted by: Frank on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:14 AM
Hey Absolutely; I am not a racist, but there is no way I am voting for the most liberal and inexperienced candidate in the last 100 years. He has affiliations with known terrorists and radically racist clergy. Voting for him would weaken the US militarily because Obamanation is an appeaser along the lines of Chamberlain (not Wilt). Give me a leader more like Churchill. This guy wants to take all my money and give it to those who wouldn't work if you laid a job in their laps, but he doesn't help his own brother who lives on less than $1 a day! He is very generous with money that is not his! I don't care what color he is he is wrong for me, my family and my country!
Posted by: sd on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:14 AM
Of course race had something to do with it. I've heard racist comments first hand. The reporter just needs to read these comments to answer the question.
Posted by: Eli on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:13 AM
All of you inbred hillhillies are'nt part of the national discussion anyway. You're states vote means little in the electoral college. Keep blowin jugs and playin the "warshboard". Your state motto should be,"Proud to be stupid".
Posted by: Josh on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:09 AM
Of course race was a factor, it's West Virginia. Just go to youtube and you will see. West Virginians do not keep racism a secret. We are still about 20 years behind the rest of the country. We will vote Republican and we are the poorest state, what a joke! Laugh at yourselves...lol
Posted by: Ashley on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:54 AM
If the "African-American" (I put it in quotes because, if you know anything about Obama, you know he is not African American, as his campaign touts) running in this election had been the most experienced, proven candidate, I'm sure he or she would have won in WV. As it is now, Obama is less experienced that then Republican VP. Of his term in U.S. Senate, he voted "present" rather than "Yay" or "Nay" nearly 1/5 of the time. Of the 136 bills Obama sponsored, 122 were dead in committee. His hard hitting legislation that passed? 5 Resolutions: 1) Congratulating the Chicago White Sox on a World series win 2)Recognition of the historical significance of Juneteenth 3)2 designations of a day in June as "National Summer Learning Day" 4) A resoltion celebration Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson. Compare his record to that of Senator Clinton, or Senator McCain, or anyone else who at one point was running. Clearly inexperienced. Why is no one talking about this???
Posted by: Spaghetti on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:29 AM
judging from the comments on here, I'd say racism and maybe some religious discriminatin effected at least a couple of votes, theres nothing wrong with having a muslim President by the way folks, we're supposed to be about freedom of religion here, get your heads outta the sand
Posted by: me on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:28 AM
You people who think that race did not play a part in Obama's downfall are kidding yourselves. I have heard it said of too many people that because he is black they would not vote for him. This state is still racist as it can be. People naturally voted for Hillary here because they actually think she was the brains behind the Clinton's. Too bad neither one was picked, it will be McCain and Palin this year baby!!
Posted by: paul on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:22 AM
What percentage of the black population voted for Obama? What percentage of the whites voted for Obama? A greater percentage of Black's voted for Obama than whites......ISN'T THAT RACISM ALSO??????????
Posted by: Tiger on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:11 AM
When the democrats picked Obama, they lost the election. If they would have picked Hillary, they would have won. As a democrat, McCain all the way!!!!
Posted by: Scared on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:09 AM
This presidential race scares me to death. I can barely survive now, and I am forecasting more of the same no matter who gets in. It will take a long time to dig ourselves out of this hole. I am in the same position I have been in for the last two elections. I don't want either one of them. I believe the voters of West Virginia chose Hillary as out candidate but our esteemed elected officials chose Obama for us. Remember that at in November.
Posted by: deb on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:58 AM
I hope people dont start about THAT! I live in the coal minning Mountians of Ky and I am for CHANGE and that Change is only gonna come thru a Democrat and thats Oboma! The Mountian people have a chance for zhange and I am hopping on Obamas wagon!
Posted by: Mike on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:57 AM
Wow! These viewer comments answer that question loud and clear. By the way, EVERY unaffilated, unbiased news source says that Obama's tax plan is better for middle class, working families than McCain's. But some people won't let the facts get in their way.
Posted by: john on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:40 AM
racism ,racism ,racism, im so tired of hearing about it! Its ok for him to be racial though isnt it !Obamas one of the biggest racists out there!
Posted by: bonn on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:39 AM
Seems like most people who think this was because of the color of his skin are people who are FOR him, which must mean that is why they ARE for him. The rest of us use our brains and vote for the best choice-he's not it, no matter what color he is or isn't. How did he even get in this election? He's UNQUALIFIED!!!!
Posted by: Jacob on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:38 AM
"BTW at least you can trust McCain" With all of the ads he has been running that have been PROVEN to be lies (and blatant ones at that) you think he can be trusted? We need to let the Republican party know that they need to change this dangerous direction they are headed in and get back to their old values. Smaller government, less taxes (Obama plans more tax cuts for working families than McCain despite another of McCain's lying ads), less foreign intervention.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:21 AM
why is it white people are always racist. but when black people say racist things it is not a big deal. like when Obama said his dad a black man came over here and got a white woman pregnant and left.there was nothing wrong with that.doesn't that make him half white or not in the black mans eyes.also why was it when Jesse Jackson said something about Obama nothing was said or Done with him was it because he is black? look at all the city that have black mayors they are more like naacp running them instead of the mayors for the cities and people of all color and race.
Posted by: Jennifer on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:16 AM
"i will never vote for a black man .for anything" "IM AN HONEST DEMOCRAT. I VOTED FOR HILLARY FOR ONE REASON I DIDNT WANT TO VOTE FOR A BLACK MUSLIM BECAUSE I FEAR MY JOB BEING TAKEN AWAY AND GIVIN TO A NO GOOD LAZY BLACKS WHO USE DRUGS AND DONT WANTA WORK. AND IM AN HONEST DEMOCRAT FROM CALHOUN COUNTY WEST VIRGINIA." Sounds like ignorant racist rhetoric to me and oh so typical of WV I'm glad I left the state! One can only respect your decision to not vote for Obama if you have reason as in reasonable cause LOL. Because his skin is not white is not reasonable. White folks need to get on board as you are soon to be the minority race in America........then what do you do?
Posted by: Lisa on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:32 AM
NO, Race had nothing to do with it. It has all to do with most of us liking Clinton more. That has nothing to do with race but more to do with her ideas and policy. I wish people would keep race out of this election. Race has nothing to do with it and having a african american running for the highest office in this country proves that fact. When I vote I will vote on how both of them stands on the economy not their race.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:29 AM
OBAMA/BIDEN '08!
Posted by: Yes it was on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:38 AM
Duh!
Posted by: dean on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:21 AM
obamas loss in the primary in west virginia, was not due to his race, his loss was due to the fact of west virginia residents are hard workers and blue colar people, exactly the type of people he will not help. He is just another politician trying to get elected so he can do nothing but helping out big business and ignore the little man.
Posted by: Matt on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:10 AM
Who cares if WV is racist! Do I think it played a role in Obama's loss? Of course it was. It is what it is, and people around here will change for no one. In my opinion it has nothing to do with race. McCain is the most experienced candidate. Obama was a U.S. Senator for less than six months, and started talking about the Oval Office. BTW at least you can trust McCain, Obama was no poor black kid from Chicago. Just read his books! His servants would cook for him. Hello SERVANTS! I wish this poor white boy from Southern Wayne County could afford a servant. Wake up America, and West Virginia! Keep the White House honest, and elect McCain-Palin.
Posted by: Doug on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:36 AM
Yes, racism is a factor here, he's straight from the seed of a Moslem, (born of an atheist mother). Another fact is he was backed by Rocky, our old Byrd and the old drunk Rahall against the will of the people in WV. He's their mouth peice now like a mongol on a string saying what they think people wants to hear just before the election. After election it will be a different story as always. If elected he will be the racist and say to the poor workers of WV, let them eat carp and collard greens like we did for the last 200 years. None of these people cares anything about you as the citizens of WV except to get your vote. When you add the hallucinogen Manchian to all this we have a bonafide cult here. Jim Jones don't have any thing on these cats. All I can say is if you are stupid enough to vote for this mess you will get what you deserve. PS don't drink the cool aid!
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:22 AM
yes it was racism.........Barack and especially Michelle Obama are anti-white
Posted by: MrObvious on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:15 AM
I'd be willing to bet that if Hillary had lost, the idiots that tout this mantra would be saying it was sexist...but, I'm sure some congressman is willing to give them money (ours) for their stupid study.
Posted by: JOE on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:27 AM
IM AN HONEST DEMOCRAT. I VOTED FOR HILLARY FOR ONE REASON I DIDNT WANT TO VOTE FOR A BLACK MUSLIM BECAUSE I FEAR MY JOB BEING TAKEN AWAY AND GIVIN TO A NO GOOD LAZY BLACKS WHO USE DRUGS AND DONT WANTA WORK. AND IM AN HONEST DEMOCRAT FROM CALHOUN COUNTY WEST VIRGINIA.
Posted by: brad on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Does thinking that one has a like thought process constitute racism? If so, I'm toast. Let him convince me he has a better idea than Hillary offerred me. Johnsons comments offend me.
Posted by: Wes on Sep 21, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Unfortunately, yes race was a factor in the primary, and it will be in the general as well. I know several people myself who won't vote for Obama based on the color of his skin. Ignorance runs rampant in this region...racism is SO last century. OBAMA/BIDEN 08!
Posted by: OMGAH! on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Does everythign in this freakin world have to do with Racism!? Maybe he lost because we don't like him & his ways. Geeze, get over it already. He hates white people & we'renot losing any sleep over it! LOL
Posted by: Chris on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:19 PM
How typical. Obama is unpopular in West Virginia so it must be because we are all a bunch of racists. Could it be that Hillary Clinton was more in touch with WV voters; who Obama sees as clinging to guns and religion? Was race a factor in 2004, when this state declined to support John Kerry?
Posted by: john on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:12 PM
i will never vote for a black man .for anything.
Posted by: J on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:55 PM
Yes, if you don't vote for the black man, you're RAAACISSSSST!. Funny how it was an organized effort last week to intimidate people not voting for Obama that they must be racist (at least three national stories last week). Seems more like vote for Obama, you ignorant hick, or we'll label you as a racist.
Posted by: uncertain on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:17 PM
don't know if racism is a factor in Obama's primary loss or not, but his color has entirely NOTHING to do with whether I vote for him or don't vote for him. I have never heard much of him til this year, can't except his reactions toward certain questions on issues, but his color has nothing to do with it. I'm white, have a lot of black friends, whom I love and cherish as true friends, I would trust them before I would trust a lot of white people who is suppose to be my friend. But, for Obama, I don't know, I just don't know about him.
Posted by: JMiller on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:17 PM
You have go to be kidding me....racism? Please citazens of WV do yourselves a favor and research a candidate before casting a vote. Racism is not a factor at all. Did you folks fail to realize that BHO is just an empty suit and brings nothing to the table. His comments and policies fall in line with the likes of Karl Marx.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:06 PM
I think the reason Hillary fared so much better than Obama is simply because of the numerous trips that she made to the state versus Obama lacks of visits. What was it one visit to the University of Charleston? Were there any others?
Posted by: davidcook on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:34 PM
just because wv didnt vote for obama does not make us a racist bunch of hicks. is wsaz trying to make us feel guilty for voting for hillary. perhaps if we had voted for obama this story would be suggesting we are sexist. perhaps we didnt vote for obama because his lack of experience. i bet that if colin powell were to run for president he would win wv no problem. as i stated in a previous comment on the dem. party story. our primary votes didnt count anyway because our wonderful gov. and senators decided they would go against the will of the people. if a person votes for a person just because they are affiliated with a certain party then god help us all. i am one democrat that will vote for mccain, if that is racist to you then thats your problem.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:28 PM
im so sick of the racism card.... i could puke
Posted by: Absolutely on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:27 PM
Racism is the factor and will be the factor in this eleciton. Just look at the comments on the other section pertaining to Obama visiting this region. KY is the same. I have heard way to many say "I'm not racisit, but there is no way I could vote for a black man".????? I think people like to tell themselve they aren't racist because they actually think the aren't!!!!!! Crazy......It is a shame people are still living in the 50's and 60's.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:21 PM
MCCAINS VISIONS ARE ALOT MORE SOUND THAN OBAMA'S FOR THE USA
Posted by: Sue on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Racism wasn't a factor in Obama's loss. Sexism was a factor in Hillary's loss of the nomination though. Too bad we aren't discussing that.
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