UPDATE: W.Va. Gubernatorial Debate Frequently Heated
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Posted: 11:05 PM Oct 13, 2008
Last Updated: 9:34 PM Oct 14, 2008
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Update from 6 p.m. Tuesday newscast

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin and Republican challenger Russ Weeks faced off Monday night to talk about the most important issues facing West Virginians.

But they also found time for some mud slinging. We took a closer look at some of those biting accusations and other claims made by the candidates to separate facts from fiction.

Weeks said he would not have anyone in his administration that shares his last name, making a reference to Manchin whose wife and son serve on state boards in unpaid positions, as well to the governor's cousin Mark Manchin. He earns more than $100,000 as head of the School Building Authority.

"These are all qualifying people," Manchin said. "The bottom line is that they have to perform."

Throughout the debate, Weeks put Manchin on the defensive.

"The money going out in good ol' boy contracts is ridiculous," Weeks said, making claims that a worker with the Department of Highways is using his position to benefit his private company.

We checked into that, and a DOH spokesperson denied it but said the department will investigate.

One of the few issues that the candidates seemed to find agreement during the debate was reducing the $9,000 cap on permits for video lottery in the state. Manchin pointed out the decline of those permits during his administration.

"When i became governor, all 9,000 were out," he said. "As they are coming back now for whatever reason, we're not putting them back out."

But the West Virginia Lottery said one of the main reasons behind that move is an approaching date -- 2011, the year the Legislature could decide to reduce the permits issued.

During the debate, the moderator pressed Weeks for proof of the accusations about the DOH. Manchin also asked for names, and Weeks refused to provide any. On Tuesday, he stood by that stance but promised to take care of the problem as governor.

The candidates will have three more chances to make their case to voters. Monday's debate was the first of four scheduled debates.


Original story

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- The race for the governor's office in West Virginia became heated Monday night when two of the candidates faced off for the first time in a live debate.

Democratic Gov. Joe Manchin is considered the heavy favorite, with his Republican challenger Russ Weeks facing an uphill battle with less money and less name recognition.

The two candidates made it clear Monday night that there is not much they agree on. And during the debate, Weeks threw in a curve ball -- making a very serious allegation that he says he's willing to back up with facts, but not until Election Day.

And that wasn't the only controversial issue during the debate. The two candidates also talked about the degree scandal surrounding Manchin's daughter, which has been a centerpiece of Weeks' campaign.

On the serious state of the economy, Manchin touted the state's ranking as one of the top states for growth during this financial crisis. Weeks, however, said the state food, business franchise and inventory taxes need to be cut faster, although he didn't lay out a timeline.

One issue the two candidates did see eye-to-eye on was merit pay for teachers -- both Manchin and Weeks said they're against the idea.

There are three more debates planned, with the remaining ones set in various parts of the state.

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Posted by: Judith on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:56 PM
ONE PAY INCREASE IN FOUR YEARS. JOE HAS GOT TO GO. HE ONLY TAKES CARE OF HIS FAMILY AND BUDDIES. AFTER I PAID MY RENT AND UTILITIES AND PUT GAS IN THE CAR SO I COULD GO TO WORK, I HAD $17 TO BUY GROCERIES FOR TWO WEEKS. STATE WORKERS ARE HURTING AND HE DOES NOT CARE.

Posted by: clay county democrat on Oct 15, 2008 at 09:38 PM
hey calhoun we dont have much in common the Panthers vs the reddevils in football but my kin are all democrats too and they can't stand this obsama fellar. i wonder if Saddaam Husein insaine would think he got the last laugh on the bushes if his nephew Junior Husein gets in there.

Posted by: calhoun democrat on Oct 15, 2008 at 03:32 PM
i'm a democrat my daddys a democrat and my dead grand daddy was a democrat, heck my coon dog russ is a democrat(the most honest one of the bunch) but gosh dog it i can't vote for a racist muslim folks, just can't do it this year. where is bill clinton and gaston caperton when you need them.

Posted by: To omg on Oct 15, 2008 at 09:17 AM
Are you a 'Democrat'? The reason I ask is that the post you made is written by a conservative, not a liberal. I agree with your assessment. However, part of the problem with this state is that many of the 'Democrats' in the state are really conservatives. However, because of unions and tradition, they have registered as Democrat, making this state a democratic run state. It's been that way for YEARS. The only republicans(conservatives) who can make it into office are those with ties to big coal. The problem with this is that the Democratic Party, by nature, believe in big government(because government can Always fix ANY problem, high taxes, and hand-outs(welfare and the like). The irony is that the most productive part of the population have conservative values and disagree with all three, but continue to vote Democrat because the union says so, or because "Grandpa was, Dad was, and By Gosh, it's good enough for me!"

Posted by: KayeB on Oct 15, 2008 at 08:37 AM
OK "ANON" (why not use your real name to yell at us "uneducated, judgemental" people on here BTW, since YOU think YOU'RE so EDUCATED, you need to learn how to spell since you misspelled restaurant and blame. Normally I dont point out spelling mistakes because usually they're made by folks who are polite, nice & friendly on here However, since you chose to call the rest of us "uneducated and judgemental" I couldn't resist calling you on it to prove you're as "uneducated" as the rest of us. NONE of us here claim to be perfect other than you since you consider yourself to be superior to us as well as smarter than us. Not ALL of us get unearned degrees either like some! Also, what are you being if not judgemental when calling the rest of us that as well as "uneducated"? Come on. Our point here is that we want to SEE the actual #, type & WHERE all these thousands of jobs are that Manchin claims he created. AND we want to know the truth about the unemployment nos.

Posted by: TICKED FF DEMOCRAT on Oct 15, 2008 at 08:13 AM
AS A WVU ALUMNI AND A BIG MANCHIN FAN, I WAS SO PROUD OF JOE AND THE WAY HE STOOD BEHIND US MOUNTAINEERS LAST YEAR, HE ALSO DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THE SAGA DISASTOR. THE LAST YEAR JOE HAS TICKED ME OFF SO MUCH IM ON THE FENCE RIGHT NOW FIRST I BELIEVE IN DOING THE RIGHT THING NO MATTER WHAT. ANYONE WHO WOULD GIVE A BRIVE TO A UNIVERSITY TO GET HIS DAUGHTER A PHONY DEGREE WHILE MY KIDS GETS STUDENT LOANS AND HAS TO EARN IT IS A DISGRACE. HE ALSO STABBED HILLARY IN THE BACK ALONG WITH MY FAVORIT PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON. I AM SO ANGRY AS A DEMOCRAT THESE DAYS. I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE LIKE BARRACK OBSAMA. THIS GUY IS SUCH A PHONY AND A FRAUD. HE VOTES AGAINST COAL AND GUNS. GOES TO A CHURCH WHO HATES WHITEY FOR 20 YEARS. HE ONLY QUITS HIS CHURCH BECAUSE HES RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. THE ONLY DEMOCRATS ILL VOTE FOR ARE MY DELEGATE, POSSIBLE MANCHIN BECAUSE OF THE GUY HE'S RUNNING AGAINST IS A NOBUDDDY. IF UNDERWOOD WAS RUNNING I BELEIVE MANCHIN WOULD LOSE IN A BIG WAY.

Posted by: MIKE on Oct 15, 2008 at 04:56 AM
ONLY IN WVA DOES YOUR SENATOR HAVE TIE WITH THE KOO KLUX KLOWNS, YOUTR LAST GOV COMMITS ADULTRY, THE NEXT GOV TAKES BRIBES AND GETS HIS DAUGHTER A PHONY DEGREE AND THE PRESIDENT OF WVU TAKES THE FALL AND YOUR UP 30 POINTS IN THE POLLS. I KNOW DEAD PEOPLE VOTE HERE STRAIT DEMOCRAT BUT DO THEY POLL DEAD DEMOCRATS LIKE GRANDDADDY TOO.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Maybe you think jobs at telemarketing places and fast food restaraunts are not JOBS, but tell that to the people who have no education to get a better job...and I hate to tell you but lots of state jobs don't pay more than the fast food/telemarketers. How can you all blam Joe Manchin for this state being behind? It's always been behind because of the uneducated judgemental people like the ones who comment on here.

Posted by: omg on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I can not believe that you (Me) would try to convince people to vote for "Meeks". People like you are the prime example of why WV gets it's sterotype. The guy's last name is Weeks. If you go to Randolph, Boone, Upshur, Barbour, etc you will find coal mines where the miners are making $20 an hour. Many new jobs have been created. However, the governor is not responsible for bringing jobs here. If WV parents put more thought into their children's education and worked with the educators to help the children, our state would be more intelligent and be someplace that big business can come to. Why would any larger business that pays well want to waste their money on illiterate, drug using, holler hoots who only care about their next beer, cig, can of snuff, or loratab. It is not cost efficient with that kind of worker. The economy is in shambles. People buy what they don't need and only what they want. Stop the careless spending. Pay for the necessary items and see what happens.

Posted by: Me on Oct 14, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Meeks for me... He was so ON when he was talking about the B.S. with the Department of Highways. Manchin has had all of the parts from the DOH headquarters in the counties all moved to Charleston. SSSOOO when a truck gets a flat tire Guess what?? These men have to wait a whole day if not more to get a tire. This is crazy. These men have to wait and then the tax payers say they do nothing. Partially correct they have to wait so this is lost time that the equipment is not being used. Yes he has sold most all the equipment that they had to work with. I know some of the equipment is 20 years old that he has left and sold the newer. Also, Weeks was right about the private contracter that works for the state. Double dipping to the max. Dirty politics by the Mansion mafia. When he took office the DOH had newer vehicles to drive perfectly fine. When he took office he sold them and made a good ol boy deal and bought brand new cars. Meeks has done his homework. LISTEN TO HIM PEOPLE. He knows

Posted by: Heather on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:55 PM
Oh and KayeB I agree-where are the jobs?! But I can tell you, it's 11,000 telemarketing jobs and 11,000 store/food service jobs which really aren't jobs at all! Plus, companies look at a city's population when determining to set up shop and that limit is 50,000 people in a city. Huntington's population is dwindling;so needless to say, they'll be shutting down Sitel and a few McD's and Little Caesar's sometime soon.

Posted by: Heather on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:51 PM
I would like to Manchin give back him $1mil election fund back to the people of WV if he is elected. Other candidates (in different positions) are running on a few thousand dollars on their campaigns, but Manchin has $1mil ?!?! Where are all these ads and door-to-doors?? I've seen maybe 2 ads since election year started. MANCHIN needs out but god help us there is no one better running.

Posted by: Mom on Oct 14, 2008 at 05:10 PM
Why keep Manchin in office? What has he done for this state? We have been the forgotten state for too long.

Posted by: Billy Keen on Oct 14, 2008 at 03:28 PM
Mr Weeks acted like a big bully with no brians

Posted by: Curious on Oct 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I watched the debate. It was interesting about how many questions weren't answered. I think I might vote for Weeks.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM
weeks in 08 i did listen to this debate last nite i really like what weeks said he was open and honest he reminds me of underwood a great man

Posted by: Dennis on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:54 AM
Wow, great site... for Obama anyway.

Posted by: KayeB on Oct 14, 2008 at 06:21 AM
I'd still like to know where all of those 22,000 new jobs are that Manchin's ads claims he has created. WHERE? Indonesia? Certainly not in WV. IF he indeed has created so many, or ANY in the "thousands" here in WV, then please someone POST those here so all of us can actually see what, where & when they are! Also, I think the other man should have been allowed to participate. I think ANYONE representing another option other than these two out-of-control parties should be allowed equal time in debates, in the media etc. Not only for States' races but Nationally. Right now our "democracy" only allows us the two wonderful options of these greedy, self-serving major parties, the Dems & the Repubs. THEY are both just the same. Same old lies. Same old promises. Same old greedy, self-serving liars. I'm serious about posting these 22,000 jobs here WSAZ or SOMEONE please. Where exactly ARE they Mr Manchin? Just asking.

Posted by: repub votin dem on Oct 13, 2008 at 11:55 PM
manchin gets my vote, who the heck is the other guy?

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  • Posted By: AriCheers to Rob-I feel ya!
  • Posted By: joeI have worked for companies all over this nation and have had to take drug tests. Why should teachers be exempt from this practice? It is now common to be randomly tested(and I have been) so what makes a teacher any different than a steel worker. I can say proudly that I passed but I have seen those who didn't. They chose to use drugs and lost their jobs I didn't.
  • Posted By: KatyAs a teacher, I have no problem being randomly drug tested...as long as you agree to drug test the parents who enter the doors of my school as well. Most teachers deal with students who are exposed to/use more drugs and alcohol than any of the teachers. If these students or parents who are using drugs (and are not drug tested) enter our schools, the safety of the teachers and students are at risk. Since children spend more time with them, let's randomly drug test PARENTS, too!!!
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  • Posted By: RobertAlthough I feel for the employees that lost their positions at Cabell Huntington Hospital, at least more nurses were hired. I recently had a relative in the cardiac unit at Kings Daughters, in Ashland, and I was told that the nursing staff had been cut back and that no overtime was being given. This seems to be a drastic cut in patient care for a facility that spends thousands advertising that they are in the top 5% of cardiac hospitals in the country. I would be willing to wager that the Cleveland Clinic has not cut hours of those giving patient care.
  • Posted By: BoydIf the state's budget is doing so well, why don't we use some of this money to help towns and cities in the state who are in trouble with their budget, or will this just become another pay raise for politicians?
  • Posted By: RobWhy does everyone have to be so into using the term "racist" and have that kind of attitude. I know what my heritage is and who my ancestors were but you want to know what I consider myself? I AM AN AMERICAN! I was born and raised in this country and that's how I feel it should be. Born here, raised here.....then by God you are an American. Not an African American, not an Asian American etc. etc. You are an AMERICAN!
  • Posted By: ChrisTo Ex-Officer: I agree with you 100% about the pay of police dept and the drug testing. I was formerly involved with the BCPD and had multiple ride alongs with the BCSO. I am probably one of their biggest critics due to having watch some of the bad side of the department for a long time. I wish that I could tell everything that I have seen officers do,which would put most of them behind bars or they'll lose their sheild, But retalliation is bad in our area. To the cops that do their job and do it with the best intentions, I proud of you and don't mean any disrespect. To the ones who I personally watch being more currupt then the "badguys" here,your day will be coming.
  • Posted By: PabloTeachers aren't the only ones underpaid. Law enforcement officers are underpaid also. And I'd like to speak about them. For example, I'm sure any parent would sacrifice their live for thier children. And several may give thier live to save their spouse. A few individuals may even do it for a close friend. But, I only know of 3 types of beings who will sacrifice thier lives for complete strangers; indeed even for people who hate them. The first would be our men and women in our armed forces. The second would be our law enforcement officers. And of course, third would be our Savior, Jesus Christ. Others are killed in the line of their employment, but not in order to save a complete stranger. Everytime a cop puts on his/her uniform, they can be a target for anyone upset about something. Even though it doesn't involve the cop personally, that very cop will give his life to save yours when a problem arises. We need to give our cops not only a wage, but a living wage and a great big THANKS.
  • Posted By: CraigIf what I am hearing is correct that Kanawha County teachers accepted a pay raise in return for submitting to drug testing, and then sued successfully so they do not have to be subject to testing, then why shouldn't we the taxpayers demand they return the raise?
  • Posted By: teresaracist lmao i am one cherokee,german,irish,german,and who knows what else TIRED of hearing of racist comments u are either GOOD OR BAD k no skin color needed just evil or NOT
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  • Posted By: GarlandWhat's the difference between teachers and other workers(coal mineers, bus drivers, state employees,etc.)? Teachers aren't any better are they?
  • Posted By: This is not a comment, but I would like comments on it please. What do you think of Poca High School? Racist or not?
  • Posted By: RobertWe the people, through our own self centeredness and apathy, have allowed our teachers and police officials to be some of the most underpaid people in the United States. We are trusting our childrens education and our public safety to the very people that are some of the most underpaid profesions in the U.S.. If I could change this, I would. However, I do believe that these people should be randomly drug tested. I work in the construction industry and I have no problem being drug tested. I have nothing to hide. I also believe that any person who is intrusted with the safety of others should have nothing to hide. This includes plitical officials up to and including the president.
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