UPDATE: Former Firefighter Voices Safety Concerns
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Posted: 8:31 PM Nov 18, 2008
Last Updated: 9:18 PM Nov 19, 2008
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CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- For former Charleston firefighter Eric King, it's a Catch-22. The National Fire Protection Agency recommends a firefighter not have a pacemaker and continue on the job. So, King was fired from the department.

Here's where the catch comes in, according to King. He said it was a job-related test that he doesn't believe always follows those NFPA guidelines that caused his medical condition to begin with.

"They routinely send people to the hospital, most of the time they will pass out, they'll get fluids in them and they will be fine," King said. King told WSAZ Tuesday by phone that (they) "act like it's funny to break someone down and send someone to the hospital. "

King blames the test for his pacemaker and his diagnosis of bradycardia. According to King and his doctor, his cardiac health was fine prior to taking this test.

Local IAFF President Myron Boggess said needing treatment at the test is just like needing treatment at the scene.

"There is people who pass out on the fire scene, there is people that have to take oxygen on the fire scene, there are people that have to take IV fluid on the scene," Boggess said. " I don't understand what the difference is."

King said he was among three people taken to the hospital because of the Charleston Job Related Skills Test. The class only had 10 people.

When it comes to enforcement, NFPA guidelines are not black and white. During testing a medic is on the grounds, but not closely monitoring the test. Based on the NFPA standards, someone should be watching, according to King. He also believes the amount of time firefighters should be in their gear needs to be examined.

One firefighter who serves as a medic at the test from time to time agrees with King in part. Steve Haga has been a Charleston firefighter for more almost 10 years, and told WSAZ.com Tuesday, "Repeatedly they've had people that require attention after the test. That tells you, one, either the test is flawed or the preparation for the test is flawed. "

Dr. Paul Davis, PhD., is an expert in physical fitness and employment standards. He is a retired firefighter and paramedic. He took a look at the test and said he saw nothing wrong with it.

He did wonder why veteran firefighters weren't taking the test biannually.

Chief of Operations Rodney Winter told WSAZ.com that it's a logistics issue. That's because the department uses the Charleston Civic Center parking garage for its testing. He said, however, that he would like to see a department physical test.


Original story
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- Firefighters face dangerous situations every single day. But now, one former probationary Charleston firefighter claims the group's biggest danger might be coming from the department itself.

Eric King is speaking out, saying that life has changed drastically for him and his family since he took the Charleston Fire Department's Job Related Skills Test.

King is 34 years old. He now has a pacemaker and was diagnosed with bradycardia. Bradycardia is a condition that means your heart beats less than 60 times a minute. King said up until he passed out from heat exhaustion during the skills test, he had a clean bill of cardiac health.

"I got hurt taking a test, and they continue to take that test after numerous people have been hurt taking the test, and nothing is changing on it," King said. "I am afraid someone will get seriously injured."

The test is a series of job-related skills probationary firefighters must complete to become a full-fledged member of the Charleston Fire Department. That includes everything from tying knots to using a sledge hammer, to climbing a ladder and pulling a mannequin. The goal is to simulate what happens in the field, and to make sure members are not only proficient but efficient.

Myron Boggess is the president of the local chapter of the International Association of Firefighters.

"It is a hard test," Boggess said. "If it wasn't, anyone could do it. You have to have some kind of a gauge set to where people either pass or they fail."

There is no time limit on the test, but the average length is about an hour. King said he'd been in his turnout gear for about that long when he passed out. He said he was almost done.

"I don't disagree with those skills needing to be tested," King said. "But to have it all in one and to run people for over an hour in full gear -- that is crazy; it's absolutely ridiculous. They are going to end up killing someone."

According to the Charleston Fire Department's chief of operations, more than 100 fire fighters have passed the test. Two breaks -- each lasting two minutes -- are provided during the test.

Each day leading up to the test and even once the test is over, firefighters are allowed an hour during their scheduled shift to work out in the fire department gym. They are encouraged to do the same on their days off.

The test requirement started back in the 1990s.

Danny Anderson is the IAFF secretary/treasurer. He believes the test prepares a firefighter for any day on the job.

"I like to feel like the Charleston Fire Department is the best fire department in the state," he said. "I feel like we set our standards and goals above and beyond. Because that way when we go to fight a fire or have to rescue a person or cut someone out of a car, whatever it may be that we have to face, we are going to be above and beyond ready to handle that challenge."

Boggess said that he never heard any complaints about the test until he found out King's situation was brought to the attention of WSAZ.

King was let go from the job because he uses a pacemaker; that is a guideline put in place by the National Fire Protection Association. NFPA is a a standard-setting group for fire departments across the nation.

King is appealing his workers' compensation claim, which was previously denied.

Charleston City Manager David Molgaard said that is why the workers' compensation appeals process is in place.

"Better to understand the physical capabilities during a test than during a true emergency where other peoples lives and the lives of their coworkers are really at stake," Molgaard said. "To the extent he had a physical condition that manifested itself during a training exercise or a test, it might have been for the better."

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Posted by: MrAnderson on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I doubt it that a Huntington Fire Department meber made the comment that was posted because I some of them and have found them to be far better quality than that. The statement that our department is the best is a matter of pride and from my point of view we are. However the fact is we all try to do our best in our line of work which really makes all of us come up to the highest of standards. We are Paid Prfessional Firefighters. We are willing to go that extra mile when it commes to risks and dangers. Yes our test is rigorous but so is our job in the real life. I hope we continue the test so we don't have to find out that someone couldn't handle the job in ral life and then we have to dress in our Class A uniforms and march down that long funeral procession. As I probationary firefighter I had not been a volunteer so it was ll new to me. Yet I knew in order to complete my probation I had to prove myself worthy by preparing to take the tests that were ahead. Thanks to those who worked.

Posted by: Jody on Nov 21, 2008 at 09:12 AM
I am intrigued by all of the comments stating the test did what it was suppose to do. I failed the test and it is on video (video in which WSAZ has) the only reason I was not terminated was due to the fact I have documentation that would crucify certain members of the Charleston Fire Department in the court of law. So there are free passes and I am proof of that. There is no denying this and all you have to do is email WSAZ and request they show this video footage.

Posted by: Joseph on Nov 20, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I agree, the bashing between the paid guys and the vollies needs to stop. It's childish. The point of this story is of Eric King. Yes tests are designed for people to pass or fail, not send people to the hospital. Every person at CFD needs to take the same test or maybe the CPAT test every year to test their physical ability, and yes that includes everyone from a new hire to the chiefs. Eric's condition resulted from an overload of physical strain on his heart. What kind of excuse is Rodney Winter tryin to make..."It's a logistics issue..." Logistics has nothing to do with a guy gettin a pacemaker put in because his heart got overloaded. Let's look up NFPA 1584, I believe it's covers incidents and training exercises, and wouldn't the test fall under training exercises? If CFD is going to follow NFPA, they should follow all the guidelines of the NFPA not just the ones that benefit them.

Posted by: cfdfirefighter on Nov 20, 2008 at 08:31 PM
When you come on this job you are given a list of things that have to be completed to get off probation and be retained. This test is one of those things. You can't come in and lay on your back and expect a free pass, it must be earned. This is why America is the way it is, no one takes responsibility and everyone want something for nothing. The test is a good factor of your mental and physical limitations and works great. If there was something wrong with it then how does everyone else pass?

Posted by: bob on Nov 20, 2008 at 04:40 PM
The test make since on how it is done. A Firefighter never knows how long there going to be in there gear. this is a good way to see how a person will react to extreme conditions an how they can handle themselves. Plus it will ensure the safty of fellow firefighters. So i dont see a thing wrong with the test measureing ones abuilty to handle an extreme accident

Posted by: firefighter on Nov 20, 2008 at 04:13 PM
I too am a Charleston Firefighter and it is time that we(all firefighters)paid or vollys need to stop the childish bashing of one another. Its time to focus on the story at hand, whether this test should be done away with or modified somehow. Like the earlier comment as long as we act like a bunch of goon how do we expect to gain any respect from our peers, our legislative officials and more important the PEOPLE that require our help on a daily basis. Let the investigation follow through. Eric sorry for your unfortunate events and i hope all works out for you. Looking through the comments though your story has drifted off the point and has been a bunch of disrespectfull goons toward oneanother in the fire service

Posted by: David on Nov 20, 2008 at 01:51 PM
This test did what it was intended to - weed out an individual who was unable to perform the job. With all due sympathy to King, look up the definition of bradycardia - nowhere is there even a hint that physical exertion might be a cause or trigger. As I understand this, a probationary firefighter has one year to master all physical and written exams/requirements. If at the end of that year he is unsuccessful in meeting those requirements he is not OFFERED a position in the department. THAT is what happened to King. He never made it past probation. Perhaps before offering opinions, this reporter should have spoken with the females who WERE able to successfully complete this test. It would be nice if fires limited themselves to half hour increments but that's not reality. I'm truly sorry life has given this gentleman a bad hand. But I don't believe CFD is to blame. No one, not the city or Workman's Compensation is responsible in this instance.

Posted by: wvgallll on Nov 20, 2008 at 01:22 PM
waht about kings comment that they think it's funny when people go to the hospital... yeeehaaww good ole boys, knock em down then try to bring them back up, when they are hooked to an IV way to train

Posted by: sugar creek george on Nov 20, 2008 at 10:41 AM
steve haga is right, if all these other guys passed the test, then they small percent that fail should be look at to see why, the test works..... so it must be the preparation, if they are alotted a hour a day a exercise, are they doing that, maybe is should be mandatory and biannual department testing, bravo sounds like another common sense ideal that was over looked

Posted by: hill billy deluxe on Nov 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM
all FD's have problems, tests, administrative, training, funding, maintenance,... etc if all of the cry babies out there would quit complaining and try to work together instead of pointing fingers and saying how one departments problem arent as bad as some other department problems and there for one superior than the other, fact is change is needed, and whining like a bunch of school girls isn't getting it done

Posted by: fakmegoo on Nov 20, 2008 at 10:23 AM
a test is a test, pass or fail it does what it is designed to do. everyone needs to pull the wool off from over there eyes and look at the real issue at hand, that is if any one really has a clue what this is all about

Posted by: Lewis on Nov 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM
I am a Charleston firefighter and I have to ask that you please don't judge all of us by what you read on here. There are guys on the job that believe in doing the right thing and would give there last nickel for a brother in need. Being a firefighter is one of the greatest jobs in the world and I wouldnt drive an hour to do it if I didnt enjoy it. The brotherhood still exist among us guys that enjoy what we do because of the challenge and rewards, not because of a salary. Now there is that minority who makes us look bad, those who are there for themselves only, but like I said that is the minority. I personally feel the King situation is bad and it needs to be investigated by an outside source because we have no representation when it comes to addressing serious issues like this. We will continue to speak out and do the right thing and represent the department with the upmost pride.

Posted by: Mike on Nov 20, 2008 at 09:51 AM
After reading these postings I had a few questions. First, if this test is valid why doesn't CFD require it for everyone? Does once in a career meet NFPA regs? If not then should it be changed so that it is required by everyone annually? About the volunteer vs. paid.....what is the big deal? A poster made the comment about a volunteer coming into your job and taking it for no money. Is there any county in this state that has a completely paid county fire department or do all counties not have paid and volunteer? Does the same mindset apply to ambulance service? There are several big ambulance companies in this state but there are also volunteer ambulance services. Let's remember the reason for the volunteers to begin with. Most rural communities do not have the financial base to support paid services. Do the paid departments really want the responsibility for providing fire and ems for the entire state regardless of location? Or leave the rural parts to the volunteers?

Posted by: fireinfighting on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:51 AM
All of the infighting in the comments to this story are exactly why the fire service in WV will never be an effective lobbying force. The state legislature and our federal reps will continue to pay you lip service because you continue to act like first graders. Enjoy it people, both vols and paid!

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:50 AM
Yes, you can tell who the Charleston firefighters are. They are extremely arrogant. As for the remark about coming into my place of work and doing my job for free, go for it. I doubt you could accomplish that either. I don't see anyone coming into Charleston to turn your paid department into a volunteer organization. As far as going into Pinch and Elk River goes, don't do it. I've never liked a paid ff on any of my scenes anyway as all you want to do is strut around with your arrogance and become a hinderance instead of an asset. The comment about brotherhood.....yes....it's been gone for years. Typically, folks get into fire service to play with flashy lights and to be seen in shiney red trucks. That goes for paid or volly departments. As far as Julio's comment, I agree. Firefighters should receive more training. I won't knock that comment either.

Posted by: Tim on Nov 20, 2008 at 06:30 AM
Come on Rodney-"it's a logistics issue". I can't believe there is not another place to give the exam. How about the Lee St parking lot where the test used to be given? If the Chiefs don't want to make everyone take the test because they know there would not be enough people to fill the shift then just say so. Dont make up LAME excuses like "it's a logistic issue." I say "Bring the test on-let's see who is riding where after that happens."

Posted by: Anon on Nov 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Boy, you sure can pick out which comments are from Charleston firefighters. They're always the ones who make themselves look like arrogant fools. I am appalled that " Stoney" would make a mean comment towards Tina King of all people. Where is the compassion. Personally to Eric and Tina King I am so sorry that Eric has a heart condition due to this test. But I am even more sorry that it looks like Charleston Firefighters don't even care!! Please accept my heart felt apology for those idiots and know that there are people that have hearts that are praying for you and your family!

Posted by: J Dunbar on Nov 19, 2008 at 09:21 PM
The Current Chief could never pass the test. He never took it and can't now. Why did he not want to talk to the news was he afraid of how dumb he would look?

Posted by: Barry on Nov 19, 2008 at 08:39 PM
Hey Dave from Huntington FD...wasn't HUNTINGTON just voted the MOST OBESE CITY IN THE NATION? I don't really think you got room to be sayin much about the physical fitness of any other city or department...

Posted by: joe on Nov 19, 2008 at 08:19 PM
Why is this turning into a bash fest against volunteers. They do the same job as the paid guys, the only difference is the money. Then ya got Huntington sayin they're better than CFD...who cares? Every fire department does the same thing. Get over yourself Huntington. The story is about ERIC KING, he got screwed over because the administration at CFD canned a guy because of a heat stroke. I agree with Casey about NFPA 1584. During a real fire, the firemen are to be sent to "rehab" so stuff like this doesn't happen. There's two 2 minute breaks in the test, but during a real emergency, you're not allowed to return to work until your vital signs are returned to a certain point. If CFD keeps this test, they need to make some modifications to it or someone else is going to get seriously hurt. They should also make this an annually thing for EVERYONE, and yes that means the "white shirts" as well...

Posted by: J on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:58 PM
What happened to the days of the fire service being a brotherhood?????? Hmm i think that went out the window a long time if they can't depend on each other then how is the public going to .

Posted by: Julio Vasquez on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:22 PM
I am not too familiar with the standards of firefighter in the U.S. But I feel that all should be better trained, first off a firefighter should experience a flashover at least once during probation and if he lives through it, give him a job. I think a police officer should know what to expect when shot while wearing a vest, so go have a day of brotherly target practice, I feel a pilot should experience a crash so he will know what to do in the event of a bad crash, a lawyer should enjoy the chance to get a small jolt in the electric chair so he knows what his client will face, how about requiring football players to suffer at least one concussion so they will recognize when they get one, these are just a few suggestions for my gringo's to the north because you thought our country was messed up? My name is Julio Vasquez and I approve this message.......JULIO 2012

Posted by: mike wazoski on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:15 PM
ha tina king you dont have better judment to comment than anbody else does you havent even ben a firefighter they have to make it diffecult remember that firefighter workout gym did he dont think so and kuwait isnt 120 well maybe but how do you hide the fact that a human cant survive more than 130 and with all that gear it would be about 126 and in case you didint notice IM STONY!

Posted by: Tina on Nov 19, 2008 at 03:57 PM
It's against my better judgment to comment here, but a person can't stay silent forever. Eric had great heart health before the test and was subjected to very strenuous activity as part of his Army training (plus 14 months in 120-degree Kuwait). The FD test is not compliant with nationally-recognized safety practices. Of course a FF should be in good physical condition & you would want to know of problems before a real emergency. We accepted that Eric could be risking his life. We just never dreamed it would be during reckless training. We've been silent for months while the CFD's admin spread falsehoods & bent truth, feeling that the truth would come out in time. All of his life, Eric was physically very strong. Now he will never be without a pacemaker. "Next"? "Get over it"? Part of me wishes you knew what it was like, but in the end, I truly would never wish that on you or your family. In case you haven't figured it out by now, I am… -- Tina King

Posted by: shawn on Nov 19, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Hey Mr.Molgaard, you say this might have been for the better because lives arent at stake right now? How about the guys that have suffered a heat injury from this test and as you say "it manifest itself" during a true emergency? Maybe it will be your house or your neighbors house where someone is trapped and we lose a guy, maybe 2 or 3 or possibly civilians? How do you answer that question? This test was designed to push guys to the brink and to break them down to make others feel superior. Plain and simple, and no one has mentioned how many have gotten a pension due to this test. You forget alot of us so called old timer's dont forget what has happened in the past.

Posted by: firefighter on Nov 19, 2008 at 03:18 PM
Mr. Anonymous. My only problem with volunteers is what if i came to your place of employment and told your boss that I would do your exact job for free and that you were no longer needed...Is that why last year the CFD had to respond to a house fire 2 miles out of the city in tyhe elk river area because Pinch VFD wasnt able to get anyone to respond..CFD was the first on the scene 27min after the 911 call was made and sent only because noone else ws close to the call yet. This was many of calls that paid fire departmewnts have had to bail out volunteers department

Posted by: Hey Tim on Nov 19, 2008 at 02:58 PM
The guys in Charleston are go getters and I am friends with a few, but I know the ones that volunteer are harrassed by the union guy's on a daily basis. Now as far as this King guy I have to say a test is a good thing to have to gauge how well they have progressed, but to give a veteran a heat stroke and can him is a little overboard. I don't think the big wigs thought this would be made public so they threw him out with the garbage and didnt think twice about it, really sad.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 19, 2008 at 01:04 PM
You make it sound as though being a volunteer firefighter is a bad thing Dave? At least there are folks out here who WILL get out of bed at 2 AM, when it's 5 degrees outside, for absolutely no money and then go to their jobs the next morning. Which one sounds more dedicated?

Posted by: Tim on Nov 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Hey Dave, I surely hope that you don't think that the HFD is the best in the state???It wouldn't surprise me because you guys stay in your little nut shell and think that everything thing you do is the greatest. Well I'm a former volunteer from the area that is currently employed withe the DCFD (District of Columbia Fire Department for those hfd guys that are to stoned or drunk to understand that) Yeah the CFD test is tough im sure but aren't are our jobs physically demanding ?? My question is this man is veteran i would think that the militarys physical fitness is harder than the cfd. I know a few guys from the cfd that are volunteers btw and those guys would run circles around you experts from Huntington . Oh wait your so Professional lets start a fight in public with the volunteers at hooters!!! Huntingon fire department is in no means professional! Keep up the good work you goons!

Posted by: leonard on Nov 19, 2008 at 12:34 PM
i think some of those guys couldnt pass the test to work at mcdonalds, well maybe they could cuz they look like they are there enuf, wanting their discounts cuz they are in uniform, b4 long mickey d's will need a bailout from the government too

Posted by: firefighter on Nov 19, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Hey HFD! If your contract is all so mighty, why did all of you cry about having to pay a little more on you health insurance. Also did it protect you on residency requirements. Take care of Huntington and leave it to others to worry about their cities or towns. If Mr. King were a physicaly fit military man he shouldnt have had any problem passing the test. There has been guys older than him pass that test as well as several women. Best wishes to Mr. King in whatever he does, but I wouldnt want to depend on someone with a known heart condition to try to save me in a life threatening emergency.

Posted by: Dave on Nov 19, 2008 at 11:04 AM
The best fire department in the state????? Well that can be questioned Mr.Anderson, We seem to do just fine at HFD and don't really seem to have the problems that you have in Charleston. Our contract protects us from alot of the garbage that goes on there but you wouldnt know that since you can't seem to get a contract with the city. Hey, maybe that guy got hurt volunteering somewhere on a fire and just say's it came from work since the majority of your member's also volunteer....once again we don't really have to worry about that either. And as far as preparing for the job I thought that is what the Journeyman program was created for, I must have missed the month that was labled "how to cause your rookie to have a heat stroke." Maybe the CFD Journeyman is different there since your department is at such a higher level than the other departments in the state.........yeah, ok. You guy's make us professionals look great! Keep up the good work!

Posted by: jimmy on Nov 19, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Ha ha ha! Its funny how the professionals are hurting their own guys but I haven't seen a single guy hurt here in Putnam County, but hey, we are just volunteers so what do we know. And you guy's wonder why we fought your pension bill? I don't want to keep paying more and more money because you all keep hurting your guy's. No wonder the pension system is failing.

Posted by: Casey on Nov 19, 2008 at 09:38 AM
You rattle off NFPA 1001 by which was used to terminate this firefighter, how about NFPA 1584? That would be firefighter rehab if you are not familiar. This was violated when this man was unable to rehab during the test. Does the CFD follow all NFPA guidelines or just certain ones that benefit the department when need be? How many of your personel has suffered injuries that you do not know about yet but will probaly find out during a stressful emergency when it actually counts. How many other departments use this test? I dont believe all of the facts were made available for people to make a decision on this yet. Also is this test given annually? Is there a annual fit test so we the public know that we are in good hands at night? Just because someone passes this test once in their career it does no good for the other twenty something years they serve the public. This story is way to fishy and I would like to see more info about it.

Posted by: ff on Nov 19, 2008 at 09:37 AM
He ought to be thankful that this test revealed a heart condition. He couldn't pass the test, which is required of firefighters. GET OVER IT AND FIND A NEW LINE OF WORK!!

Posted by: Tim on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:38 AM
While I do sympathize with Mr. King and understand his desire to be a firefighter, I believe the test is valid and in this case did what it was designed to do - make sure he was physically capable of doing the job. HOWEVER, I do agree that all the firefighters should be subjected to this test on an annual basis-not just once at the time they were hired. Do the physical demands lessen because they have been on the department for 1, 5, 10 or 20 years? Pay attention when you see them on the street or on a call-after seeing the footage of the test I am pretty sure the majority of the department's tenured members wouldnt stand a chance. So my opinion, KEEP the test and REQUIRE it annually for ALL firefighters.

Posted by: Billie Hill on Nov 19, 2008 at 01:06 AM
Our lives depend on the people who are in great physical condition and pass this test. Would we want anything less? Sorry, Mr. King..........next.

Posted by: Jerry on Nov 19, 2008 at 12:36 AM
I'm a retired firefighter from Charleston. I just cant understand this statement: "But to have it all in one and to run people for over an hour in full gear -- that is crazy; it's absolutely ridiculous. They are going to end up killing someone." Does he think that fires only happen at 15 or 30 minutes spurts? Many a day and night have I worked full tilt for 2, 3, 4 hours at a time without rest. I'm sorry that the guy has health issues, but the test didn't bring it on. It only brought it to the surface.

Posted by: joe on Nov 19, 2008 at 12:16 AM
I think Eric King should be reinstated at CFD. I agree with both sides of the story, but why do the emplyoees only have to do it once in their career? I've seen some of the guys that work at CFD, and it's amazing how they make it up a single flight of stairs without getting short of breath. The CFD needs to do away with the test before it gets someone killed, but I'm afraid that's what it's going to come to and then it'll be too late. If that happens who will the administration point fingers at then? They sure won't be able to fire them because they'll be dead.

Posted by: former firefighter on Nov 18, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Sometimes congenital heart defects do not manifest until the heart is put under stress it is not accustomed to. It could be possible it is not the skills test that "Caused" the heart problem, but something that the man was not aware of until he took the test. As a former firefighter I know the gear, with a full SCBA is very very heavy. The test is designed to weed out those who can not take the stress of day to day firefighter capabilities.

Posted by: Firefighter on Nov 18, 2008 at 09:52 PM
The job related skills test that Charleston Fire requires for all members is a difficult and trying test. It is , however, the bare minimum tasks a firefighter would do if one of the dowtown Charleston high-rise building would have a fire on an upper floor. It is also a test that covers every practical skill station from NFPA 1001, the standard that certifies basic firefighters. It is a very fair assesment and testing tool for the fire department and after having 130 firefighters (men and women) pass then have one person who failed the test have complaints really is not a fair judge of the test.

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  • Posted By: to nursebig brother cares and knows more about children than people who actually love and care for their children,didnt you know only stupid people think they know best.but let the grass grow and see what big brother will do to you.instead of poluting weed eaters, one day we,ll have to eat it off like goats.change we can believe in.
  • Posted By: news biasi saw video of people protesting coal.I DIDNT SEE people protesting being taxed into poverty,THE TEA PARTY.this is why more and more people are realizing the left wing so called news are being found out about their socialist agenda.where would t.v.stations get their power from ,if not coal.they can talk the talk,but can they walk the walk.all talk,no substance.liberal thru and thru...
  • Posted By: nursecps says young kids can't use a weed eater or so i hear. so then why can these same kids put on football pads during the summer and have the coaches w/ parents approval run til they puke or get sick from heat exhaustion. and yes if your kid wants to play football then you do have to allow your kid to go through all that or they wont get to play. so why cant the same child weedeat.
  • Posted By: buckwhy is it w/ summer sports it seems the parents make it all about them instead of the kids. am i wrong or do alot of these parents seem to want to relive life again through the kids. or even worse make a claim to being so good at whatever the sport the parent did that they push the kid all because of what they did 'or never did'. These parents also seem to be the really high ego type person. funny thing is if the parent was so good then why arent they pro or at least a great college player. what i have noticed is the the kids w/ the parent who did play college or was on the verge of being pro does not press the issue. they allow the kids to play ball. just my opinion
  • Posted By: KerryI would just like to give the city of Huntington a great big THANK-YOU!!! for the wonderful fireworks show. Despite the slight drizzle we had a great evening out. Also had an amazing dinner at "5 guys". Thank you!!!!
  • Posted By: ProudAmericaOn this holiday, I want to send out thanks to all the soldiers, veterans and their families. Without your service, this holiday would not be possible. Please know that you are very much appreciated.
  • Posted By: AnonymousMy comment is about the WV Unemployment office. The people who work there must be the most incompetent baffoons imaginable because it seems that they can never get anything right. It is bad enough that you have to wait in line for hours with all the other people who were unfortunate enough to lose their jobs due to the bad economy but when you finally get to see someone, they always manage to completely mess things up. As if to add insult to injury, they also seem to take great pleasure in denying someone because of their mistake which forces you to appeal their "decision" and go through it all over again. These people are far worse than your typical state employee, they are morons.
  • Posted By: EveHas anyone had people soliciting at their homes for "Cabell County schools"? Had a female come to the house this morning (on the July 4 holiday) from "University of Georgia" on behalf of Cabell County to talk to local parents. She had no list of student names and made the assumption that we had kids by the toys/bikes in our yard. She had a notebook with "local parents" names that she had talked with, but I didn't recognize any of the names. She asked about the neighborhood and if any other kids lived there. I didn't disclose any info except that lots of kids live in the area. Didn't let her in the house. Just suspicious because of the holiday and local home robberies. Called Huntington Police to inform them. Wanted to post to get more info out to other families. Have a safe holiday and if anyone else has similar info, please call the Huntington Police Dept. @ 696-4470.
  • Posted By: To By?? Sounds to me like your doing some bashing too. Let's keep our feelings about each other to ourselves.
  • Posted By: Seems to me the more than one person has too much time on their hands. I don't understand why people get on here and bash each other's comments. Why don't you all get jobs. WOW, don't think I will return to this section of the webpage anymore.
  • Posted By: Big EarlHello working people of WV this is Big Earl and people there is nothing wrong with eating good wholesome foods like bacon sausage eggs lard flour and the like all these PETA types are ganging up on our good food like you cant go to a baseball game now and get a hotdog without a PETA nut bothering you boo hooing about the poor little pig that turned out as a hotdog. Now my favorite restaurant in the world Kentucky Fired Chicken has thrown in twith these nuts and is grilling chicken now. Chicken was never meant to be grilled only fried regular or extra crispy. So people I say get busy we have work to do they is two states in front of us we in WV have to reclaim our top spot as best fed in the whole country go down to the foodland or kroger and get a cube of regular mountain dew a sack of Lays chips and some good ball park big red smokeys with a big bowl of chili and have a grill out tomorrow to celebrate the fourth of July in style and may I say God bless the USA and coal miners too.
  • Posted By: food for thoughtYes I am a Christian. I do need to understand the book of Revelation more and the end time prophecy. Like most I have the concept of it. Just to make it short, government dependence(happening more than ever) and is almost being forced for the citizens of this country to rely on. Cap and trade?(sign of the mark of the beast?)I don't know. I am ready. You that believe in science is fine, I do too. I do not go as far as to believe every report they give out. I pose this question. if you are so worried about global warming that means you don't like heat or burning:correct? Hmmm, think on this of what in Revelation I do understand. The lake of fire is where the worm dieth not and the fire is never quenched. Eternity is forever, on this Earth we are just passing through.
  • Posted By: to whyno ,hetrosexuals wont go to hell any slower than gays.adultry fornication,stealing lying murder etc,are all sins.every one sins,it just that you cant say you want to be a christian,and keep on with bad habits or not want to change and expect god to say thats all right.life is a struggle for all of us.we are expected to repent and try our hardest to do whats right.god respects that.you are not in any more danger than any other sinner.i know that homosexuality is a sin but so is adultry.would we tell an adulter that its all right to keep on hurting their marriage and spouse and thats alright,no.i would rather live beside an honest caring,productive gay person than a dishonest evil selfish nosy buissybody any day.we are only responsible for our own sins and actions.you sound stressed,lighten up.but homosexuality is a sin,like adultry and fornication,nobody gets a free pass.
  • Posted By: PattyGood points, Htiek, but the status quo with coal mining, which is a dirty business, no matter how it is marketed, i.e., "clean coal" (coal is dirty, period), will remain till the resources are depleted, the land and environment of the coal fields are destroyed, which is pretty much the case at present.
  • Posted By: bonnOne more thing and I really will stop. Why does the weather cycle? I do not know everything-no one does. But everything has its purpose. Sometimes, more cold is called for. If we don't have hard winters snakes and mosquitoes thrive, for one. Mosquitoes are a large part of fish diet. And snakes keep rodents in check. But too much cold hurts other things that call for warmer temps. Quail is one thing that comes to mind that suffer in the frigid temps. We just don't understand all of the workings of these things. But it is all to keep a balance-many times in things we ourselves have killed off, such as bear and wolves. Even if we don't like some species, they all serve a purpose and nature helps keep that balance. Our world really was wonderfully made. With all the changes in temperature, we still have seasons. You can know it will be cold in winter and hot in summer. The excesses serve a purpose we sometimes can not see. Strive to learn of all of her wonders, not follow blindly.
  • Posted By: bonnI would like to apologize if I have been short and critical. I really am sorry. It is no excuse, but I have a very sick child who may be dying and I get so upset at the state of our world. I do have to quit reading these comments. But I hope I have caused a few people at least to think with their own common sense instead of blindly following whatever. Some theories may be correct. But many ARE for monetary purposes. We each were given a mind to think with. Question everything before taking it as it appears. And be sure and thank a veteran for the freedom we celebrate this weekend. Too many have died to protect it to just give it up willingly. And whether or not you are religious, lets try to love one another. Love can fix so many things! Try to keep our world clean, But that doesn't have to bankrupt us. We can all do our part in whatever ways we can. The old saying "Give a hoot, don't pollute" should not have gone out of style. And use your wikipedia to read "Ice Age" to see cycling.
  • Posted By: Follow up on cap and rapeCNSNews.com) – The 1,400-page cap-and-trade legislation pushed through by House Democrats contains a new federal policy that residential, commercial, and government buildings be retrofitted to increase energy efficiency, leaving it up to the states to figure out exactly how to do that. This means that homeowners, for example, could be required to retrofit their homes to meet federal “green” guidelines in order to sell their homes, if the cap-and-trade bill becomes law. The bill, which now goes to the Senate, directs the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to develop and implement a national policy for residential and commercial buildings. The purpose of such a strategy – known as the Retrofit for Energy and Environmental Performance (REEP) – would be to “facilitate” the retrofitting of existing buildings nationwide.In other words all your appliances-heating-stove -fridge-windows-would have to meet green standards before we sell SOCAILISM HAS ARRIVED YESWEDID
  • Posted By: ANOTHER YES WE CANFirst you paid to insure your car. Soon you may have to add health insurance premiums to that stack of monthly bills as well. In a revamped health care system envisioned by senators, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face fines of more than $1,000. The details were unveiled Thursday in a health care overhaul bill supported by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.SOCAILISM IS HERE The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines would raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals
  • Posted By: bonnGood grief! The brain washing has gone so far it will never get better. Some of this way of thinking makes me physically ill in my stomach. All of one mind! Mindless devotion to whatever is contrary to common sense and whatever theory is being passed around. Most families have both parents working, some two jobs, just to make it now. Soon you won't even be able to work enough to carry your family, the government and the ones who won't work. Then you will be disposable and they will start killing you off because you can't give them enough money. But you will blindly keep following. It is easy to see how Hitler took control and how it is being set up for the antichrist to take control. I quit. I will never read another comment. And Kris, did that nut not know the sky has always appeared blue? Hahaha Goodbye. I know you will reply, but I won't be reading it. Never again. Either you believe God or the scientists. I choose God. And freedom!
  • Posted By: cap and tradeworld net daily has an informative article on home ownership and all buildings in u.s.it is about total government control of everyone.you will have to answer to the gov.or else.
  • Posted By: Jane DoeTo Pearl: Thanks for the comment. I try to be an adult and make the usual comments and complaints, But how would you feel if every time you wrote something, Someone would respond back with their own opinions and say that you are wrong! Just the other day I wrote how my child was injured at Camden Park! Of course RoaneCo. had to write something and attack me about my decision to get angry about the situation. Yes, I agree that I should just turn the other cheek but I was raised to stand up for myself!! Why I'm a target I'll never know but I think that I have a right just like everyone else on here and to say my opinion on things whether people agree or not.
  • Posted By: Why?EVERYONE SINS! Why is being gay the worst sin that sends you "straight" to HELL? Heterosexuals can do all the "sining" they want and still go to heaven but LGBT can't.
  • Posted By: JustmeCoal mining has been around for years and years. I'm sick of all these nuts that are griping about mining. You nuts are always griping. Maybe you need to get a life. If your so against it.. Then turn your lights out. And stop using the power. Move on, and stop taking jobs away from our miner's.
  • Posted By: HtiekWhat always amazes me about people in WV is their slavish devotion to coal mining even though it is killing the planet, costs more jobs than it creates, poisons the water, destroys the mountains, scars the land, kills the snail darter, and other horrible things. Things are all so backwards in this country why dont we switch over to something that lasts and is free like the sun and wind? Even if the president said that stuff and I doubt he did and even if he did you are misquoting him or taking him out of context he is right if there is one sure way to get people to stop turning their air conditioners down to 76 it is to raise the price, just like gasoline. People we can learn to ride bikes and walk again, just like they did in the old days, that will help give us exercise and decrease the obesity rate in WV. Food is another area, the slop that people eat like MacDonalds, trans fats, regular soft drinks, anybody with half a brain knows the intelligent thing to do is tax regular soda pop.
  • Posted By: GandalfA tea party? Oh my! I must relay this information to my friend Alice and the Mad Hatter. Door Mouse and Rabbit too. They will be thrilled! Oh my bad, must have picked out the wrong book today. Ta Ta!
  • Posted By: PearlRoane Co why dont you and Jane pursue your romance elsewhere the yell is for complaints.
  • Posted By: KrisJust throwing this out there. I'm sitting on my couch wearing sweat pants and short sleeve shirt. I'm thinking about shuting my windows and turning on my heat. Shouldn't I be turning on the air conditioner instead? It's the 2nd of July. Not saying it's global warming but it doesn't seem right. Haven't heard of any heat warning anywhere is the US so far this summer. Great for us but doesn't feel right.
  • Posted By: KrisHi Bonn, it is true that these cycles do occur over time. Scientists have taken core samples from the earth and the ice to show these cycles. However, none of the samples show such a dramatic change in such a short period of time. I am a smoker and I will admit that my second hand smoke can and probably will effect the lungs of a non-smoker. The tons of carbon monoxide and other pollutants that we release into our atmosphere HAS TO have an effect on our atmosphere. True story: there was a scientist that day after day after day couldn't figure out why the sky was so blue and clear. Then it struck him, there hadn't been ANY planes in the air for three days. That was 911. What you put out, is what you get back. If you put love out, you will get love back. If you put out negativity, you will get negativity back. For every action, there is a reaction whether it's good or bad. It's in our hands to do our best not to cause an adverse impact to our planet. Peace to ALL!
  • Posted By: Big EarlHello again good working coal mining people of WV this is the coal miners friend Big Earl with news of yet another hippie plot to stick there big noses further into our business now some of these people in Congress has throwed in with the tree huggers they are trying to make it so you cannot sell your house without some nut from the hippie EPA coming in and inspecting it to make sure you are green enough to suit there tastes. This so called cap and trade bill that these busy body do gooders are pushing on us will destroy our jobs and run up the electric bills so that everybody will have to live like the Waltons with 27 people under one roof just to keep warm. Now the average hippie longhair don’t care noway because they would have us all living in mud huts riding mules wearing sandals and weaving baskets to load down with califlowers and arougalas tofu and alfalfa to take up on some worthless mountaintop as an offering to there windmill god instead of having nice homes, cars, a job and cool air in the summer and heat in the winter ALL THANKS TO THE COAL MINER. Anything to bother people attracts these hippies like flies to a cowpie.
  • Posted By: to hteikhteik has 2 comment .the global warming one was hillarous.it was june 30.he must not have gotten the same public education i did,he was taught that we had satellites in colonial time.but then again he think algoe is really smart,he doesnt know al didn,t really invent the innernet.i think fox news and conservative talk radio would do him a world of good,he,d be shocked at what he doesn,t know.
  • Posted By: AmyHey Keith, I must have missed that interview because I was busy clinging to my guns and religion. No, really, I did see it. It's kind of strange how people become so shocked when this stuff is introduced in the House of Reps. Obama outlined every plan he intended to get pushed through and a lot of people just didn't listen. Next time I hope people vote for the best candidate not the best slogan. Yes we can....bankrupt the nation!
  • Posted By: Patriot1Tea Party: There will be a tea party in Grayson, Ky on July 4th. It will be held at the City Park from 4:00-6:30PM
  • Posted By: DaveThe seat belt law is no law. Its nothing but a deliberate attempt to extort money off the American people,use communist law and control the populace. THE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER VOTED ON IT, BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET YOU BELIEVE THAT IT WILL SAVE LIVES. TELL THEM TO GIVE YOU THE FIGURES ON ACCIDENTAL OPERATIONS.And if that doesn't satisfy you then why are we allowing our young brave soldiers to be killed,and for whom? WHY AREN'T THESE NEWSPAPERS BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE? Because the nations 96% are owned and controled by the WEALTHIEST.
  • Posted By: bonnI was trying to make a point. Perhaps not in the best way. I get so discouraged seeing what is happening around us. One group of scientists call for us to spread soot on all the snow up north to absorb heat to counter the coming ice age. Another (more popular) group calls for painting our roofs white to reflect the heat that is melting our ice caps. Which group is right? Neither. Our earth is doing exactly as it has been doing all along. Cycling naturally. Did it plan it all on its own? Hardly. But no one wants to hear that. It reminds me of "chicken little" yelling "the sky is falling". Only this is not so funny-this is control. And what is even sadder is-people seem to WANT to be controlled. This earth will continue as always until one preplanned day it all comes to a screeching halt. Then a new earth will be created. I will not be caught off guard. I read The Book. I know where I will be. Do you? And do you really enjoy giving those schemers your money that much? I hope one day...
  • Posted By: KeithA few questions for the Yell audience: Does anyone remember when Obama gave that interview in SanFran Cisco and said that he would not prevent the construction of a coal fired plant, but his policies would bankrupt anybody that tried to build one? That policy was cap and trade. I heard O say that energy prices, under his administration, would "necessairly skyrocket." Is this the hope and change you guys voted for? How will you afford your electric and gas service under this man who cares so much for the poor? Obama said once that he was not bothered that the price of gas had risen so high, just that it happened so fast. How does everyone feel about the gas price? Obama raked John Pablo McCain over the coals for suggesting health care benefits be taxed as income, now he is going to do the same thing to pay for "free" care to illegal aliens, deadbeats, etc...but union workers will be exempt from this tax. How does that make you feel if you work for a living and are not in a union? H&C
  • Posted By: AmyHteik, "all is well" because people like us! Give me a break. If all were well, we would not have the largest unemployment rate in 26 years. The stimulus package would prevent it from going above 8%, remember? How is Iran not our business but Honduras is? The people of Honduras have a Constitution very similar to ours and we should support the people not an extremist who is trying to take over their country. The 22nd Amendment does a great service for our nation. IF it would be reversed that would be O.K too. At the rate Obama is going W. could beat him in 2012. At least I would sleep better at night.
  • Posted By: Just MeWow Jane Doe, give it a rest. I really don't think God would be please with this going on and on and on...healthy banter is fine, but this is not healthy banter. Christians absolutely can and do get angry, it's what they do with that anger that counts. It doesn't matter where, when, or even IF you go to church...what matters is that you have accepted Christ into your heart and asked for forgiveness of your sins. God didn't save us to judge others, he saved us to lead others to him. I've said many times...what if the person you just yelled at, told off, or whatever showed up at your church on Sunday? Would you be proud of your behavior?
  • Posted By: SophieRoane County is a beautiful place. The country roads snake along past fields, farms and old homes we wish could talk. Looneyville is indeed named after the Looney family, so is Gandeeville. My father was from Roane Co. & graduated from Walton High School in the 40's. He told me tales of his school days, friends, boyish pranks, old cars and the fun they had at the 4-H camp. Spencer was a big place to them. Roane Co. gave us many war veterans and kept distant family & friends together with the annual "Roane County Reunion". I don't even know if they still have it, but we used to go. I remember seeing Sen. Robert Byrd play his fiddle there. The Black Walnut Festival in October(?) is a good time to visit Spencer. They usually have a parade, arts & crafts and a museum. You can enjoy a slice of Americana, along with a slice of homemade pie.
  • Posted By: CraveontruthThe great Dale Carnegie once said "You never win an argument".Most of you know he wrote" How to Win Friends and Influence People'.Some of you should put this on your Christmas List.I think I will dust it off and revisit this old classic.
  • Posted By: cap and tradewelcome to ''before tax and tax'bill going thru the powers that be.look at your electric bills this monthe there is an enviornmental tax at 2.2cents for every kilowatt you use.can we even imagine what our electric bill will be,not to mention every thing we consume,food water ,every necessity that cant be done without.we in easternky have good reps.in washington,every one in surrounding states should put your so called reps a lot of pressure to defeat this tax and tax bill that is being pushed by a few people to make them richer and control every aspects of productive peoples lives.look at your gasbill also,you will see only a very small portion for gas but the rest in fees and taxes.look at your phone bill you will see a 100percent markup in taxes and fees.its time to put pressure on politicans to protect the citizens and not the lobiest.
  • Posted By: justanotherflysounds like jane doe is looking for an easy way out ie a lawsuit
  • Posted By: to bonni couldn,t have said it better myself.some things have to be explained like you are talking to a 5year old.but like some 5year olds that are stubborn and spoiled rotten they dont listen.wait till the cost of every thing sky rockets and they will be the first to rant and rave that nobody told them.
  • Posted By: Jane DoeTo my biggest fan, RoaneCo: Ummm! It's sounds to me like you have a lot of anger. You have to pick on everyone's comments! I think I speak for everyone when I say (Get a Job)!! Cause you obviously have none! You have all this free time on your hands! Why don't you spend this free time helping others instead of puttin them down! You know..WSAZ has job postings...Maybe you could find one on there!!!!I'm not a negative person. Maybe I'm just like everyone else that has a job and three kids and a lot of things to do! I get stressed out, I know that goes way over your head,You don't get stressed. But because you go to church doesn't mean you can't get angry about stuff!!LOL My father-in-law is a Deacon at my church and even he has a temper!! Look out craveontruth! Looks like RoaneCo. has found someone else to pick on!Good Luck!! Have a perfect day ( I know you will)!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.Yes Craveontruth, there is a place named Looneyville.(no Jane Doe that isn't where I live) It is on Rt.36, nothing there but the Looneyville Post Office, and I am not joking. There is also a Lefthand Post Office on Rt.36, always wondered why there wasn't a Righthand also. Our County seat is located in Spencer, (middle of nowhere) which for years was only known for its State Mental Institution. (no Jane Doe this isn't my Alma mater) It was closed years ago and now a Wal-Mart is on that location. I guess the only other thing to speak of would be the Black Walnut Festival which is held in Spencer every October.
  • Posted By: bonn, the simpletonDon't we have a smart earth? She formed herself from a dust cloud, they say and planted herself just the right distance from the sun to support the life she would create. She also filled her insides with molten heat to maintain the right temps and if that builds too much she decides to blow some out holes (volcanoes) to keep from exploding. She makes her own rain, knowing whether she needs a gentle soaking rain for her plants, or a gully washer to cleanse the filth. It pours down the mountains, into the rivers and out into the ocean which she just happened to fill with salt (her natural sanitizer). And she knows if she doesn't have ice she will over heat, but too much and she will freeze, killing her life she so carefully made. So she melts some, then as it heats up, she freezes more. All just coincidental happenings? She is brilliant! But not so smart as the humans who are making a fortune controlling the other dumb humans by convincing them THEY are causing her to do these things!!!
  • Posted By: passing by the yellI met someone from Looneyville once. It's named that after a person's last name from what I was told.
  • Posted By: HteikWell it is nice to see that the war in Iraq is ending under President Obama. Who would have thought, it seems the world is backwards right now, huh? Obama gets elected, the world understands our good will, and all is well. Just like history, Republicans start wars, Democrats finish them. Hate to say we told you so but we told you so, I just get fuzzy inside thinking about all the people that love us now that hated us because of that old Bush. Another thing too, leave this Iran thing alone, that is none of our business. I dont recall anybody from Iran coming over here to help us in 1776 so why should we stick our nose in their business? When you get a strong leader like in Honduras, a good strong leader with a military background, everybody goes nuts because the guy takes things over well I support him and Obama. In fact, some people are so needed we better start now to get rid of the 22nd Amendment, it was only put in by jealous radical extremist crazy Republicans to hurt FDR.
  • Posted By: CraveontruthI don't think I have ever been to Roan County.Nothing against the good people of that neck of the woods.I did enjoy looking it up on wikipedia.Is there really a Looneyville there? If there is then I must visit!Who's with me?
  • Posted By: food for thought2-10 years for almost killing a child? Where are our priorities? I know they are nestled in the mountains or wait lying deep in the ocean waiting for anoother person to adopt them and claim rights to the next whale that is proclaimed Shammu or Willy. Get real people lets protest these laws that allow some cook to wanna kill his child and only have to pay his debt of 2 - 10 years. Oh and Kris your right our God won't kill a 1 yr old or a 100 yr old just do to it. He would do it for his glory and maybe take them from being around a half heartened sadistic person that would do this to a child. Oh i love the lights and the A/C and my car, but most of all I love my GOD "Jehovah God" whom i think first and foremost for all I have, then i thank a coal miner and an AEP worker and a so on and so on.
  • Posted By: KimberlyRaising the WV Toll price? I see a lot of arguments coming from this. Where is all of this money going to? Mansion might be a good governer, but when it comes to things like this, it needs fixed. WV roads are awful and I know after all of these years, surely the toll money has added up to more than enough to fix these roads!!! What an awful awful idea!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.Bonn, people like you are the very reason I have stated that I respect ones right of freedom of religion. Although I have different views, I have no issues with anyone going to church and trying to live according to their interpretation of the bible. I think that is wonderful. I also thank you Bonn for being open minded and seeing the point I was trying make. And for Anonymous on Jul 1, 2009 at 03:11 PM, no Craveontruth and I are not the same person. We do agree on some issues, and disagree on others. And when we do disagree (speaking for myself of course) we do it without anger. Also, for Bob... sorry, it isn't working. I have a two year old that comes up with better jabs than you. But I respect your right to try.
  • Posted By: SophieJust a few comments on current Yells: Big Earl - I just can't read you anymore because it's the same things over & over. Yeah, we're with you - there are a bunch on weed-o's coming around these days trying to shut us down for the sake of some owl...We get it. We all hate it. Roane Co/Jane -It appears Roane has been very hurt in their lifetime by family conflict involving belief. Many people get hurt because of superstition & misinterpretation and overzealousness. It has been this way since time began. I hope Roane can someday get past the hurt & retoric to work out his/her own salvation. Simple belief in Jesus Christ is where it starts, the rest as I put it, is just "gravy". Jane: I'm sorry your child was hurt. This indeed must be reported. I got hurt @ CP one time too on "The Whip". It beat me so hard against the side I had a major bruise on my hip. I strained my arms trying to keep from slamming into the side. A fun thing was not so fun. No rides for me, anymore. Not there.
  • Posted By: I think RoaneCo. and Craveontruth is the exact same person? Who's with me?
  • Posted By: Big EarlHello good people of WV this is Big Earl and I for one am sick and tired of all these out of state know it all nosey people bothering us if it is not these smelly hippies trying to run our jobs off or rename the WVU mascot now they are calling the good citizens of WV fat. Well people I am here to tell you that this bunch at the so called CSPI and no you hippies I don’t mean the TV show calling us fat should look in the mirror they look like something off night of the living dead pasty faced scarecrows and beanpoles and what is so great about that. WV has some of the best staple foods anywhere in the world I have eaten paotatoes beans meat flour and corn meal all my life cooked in lard and I am not one bit worse off for it and can mine coal with anybody. People all the good foods we eat are natural growed in the garden or on the farm so it should even make a tofu eating hippie type happy. I am more bothered that two states beat us out in the race for the top so I tip my hat to the people of the great states of Alabama home of the best country music band ever and Mississippi but people of WV get busy we have to reclaim our title to best fed in the USA I recommend the Kentucky Fried Chicken with gravy and biscuits as a good place to start our comeback.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.Actually Jane Doe, growing up I did attend church and read the bible. Being subjected to religion for many years I would not consider myself "confused" or uneducated. If one looks at organized religion with an open mind it isn't hard to see who is confused. For example, you have one bible yet there are numerous religious groups ( methodists, baptists etc...) that believe their interpretation is the only correct interpretation. This is understandable because the bible itself is very contradictive. In my opinion the the bible and organized religion is nothing more than a tool created to control the masses. Yet this tool has pitted man against man, brother against brother, state against state and country against country, not to mention the wars, death and destruction it has caused. I have witnessed in my lifetime many family fueds, broken marriages and busted churches at the hands of organized religion. I have heard the words of hate spoken by christians. I am not confused.
  • Posted By: To Fat EarlYou're losing! Ha,Ha!
  • Posted By: KrisGod does not control the weather!If so then he would be responsible for killing hundreds of innocent people every year in America alone! If that's your God, you can have it! My GOD is loving and compassionate. He would never take the life of a one year old nor a hundred year old just because he felt like creating a tornado that day or a hurricane the next. Get a brain and use it simpletons!
  • Posted By: bonnTo Jane Doe: I am afraid RoaneCo's common sense is more attractive than your comments. Read your last post at 8:58 and see if it shows the Light you are suppose to give. We are suppose to control our anger. Yes, we are forgiven, but it is not a license to keep repeating our faults. It is mercy so we can improve. Viciousness does not become a child of God. RoaneCo., may God forgive us for driving you and others away from Him with our failure to shine the Light of Love. And Jane Doe, I am the one you called ignorant just because I was showing compassion (another expectation of a Christian). It is scary about your child. But that person was not attacking your child, nor joking about it, only disapproving of your outburst. Not very attractive in anyone, especially one called to set an example for others to follow. If you must get angry, use it to accomplish something good. Christians are hated enough WITHOUT cause. Love is the answer.
  • Posted By: BobI think we might need to contact someone in state govt.about inspecting our amusement parks to many in the public simply dont care if kids get hurt this could have been something really really bad but I guess there is always a few who would crack jokes at anything even a child getting injured.
  • Posted By: cap and trade billyou wont hear on liberal obama mania news reports whats in the cap and tax bill.only conservate talk radio and conservative news are telling the contents of this country destroying bill.liberal dont want you to be informed,it would be to dangerous for their so called news networks.did you know that,as i somewhat understand it,that every house in the country will have to be at gov.standards before it can be sold,they will be allowed to change therules in mid stream if they want.even if you dont like conservative news,remember only a well informed person can try to stop tyranny.look for facts,have you heard 1 liberal news tell you whats in this bill thats detrimental to this country and freedom.i challenge wsaz to look up whats in this bill and report accuratly whats in it.i dont think thats going to happen.
  • Posted By: food for thoughtAMEN Bonn I could never have said it any better, being a Boone county coal miner and all. We do no get a very well reputation anyway.
  • Posted By: CraveontruthRoaneCo.can hurt but often the truth does hurt.I support RoaneCo.To Jane Doe,I believe RoaneCo.does know quite a bit about Christianity and is not confused at all.
  • Posted By: Jane DoeThank you everyone for your support!!You know RoaneCo. Nobody is perfect, That goes for Christians too! Are we allowed to get mad??Yes! But are we forgiven everyday? Yes!Obviously you don't know much about Christianity! That's why you critize so much!!You're confused!! We are not perfect! I guess you are!!
  • Posted By: VOTE NO ON CAP AND TRADEI know its a repost but i think its Worthy 'Liberty Or Tyranny?' House Passes Cap-And-Trade Republicans Warn Bill Gives Federal Government 'Virtual Control' Over 'Every Aspect Of The Lives Of The American People. Thank the Dumbocratic controled house as it will raise the average consumers power bill $175.00 This on top of the energy companies already asking for an inctrase will put such a burden on the American people that only the wealthy will survive.Please write or call our Senators they are the only life line we have left and ask them to VOTE NO on cap and trade. Republicans were overwhelmingly against the measure, arguing it would destroy jobs in the midst of a recession while burdening consumers with a new tax in the form of higher energy costs.And there was plenty to work on in a House-passed measure that pointed toward higher electricity bills for the middle class.Budget Office and the other from the Environmental Protection Agency — that suggested average increases would be $175.00 a year.
  • Posted By: cap and trade surveyagainst cap and tax,85percent.people who work and are productive.15percent for cap and tax,,,people who work for government or live off the fat of the land and dont mind other people being taxed into poverty....
  • Posted By: If new drivers would slow down and actually pay attention to what they are doing, then maybe WV would'nt have these new laws for teenage drivers. Personally myself I believe that all states should have this law. It would make the roads a little safer to drive on.
  • Posted By: bonnAbout global warming- our temperature is (and always has been) constantly changing. GOD controls it. Anyone who thinks we can are puffing themselves up bigger than we are.Are we suppose to believe we are responsible for the Ice Age thawing that is suppose to have happened way back when as well? How did that happen? Certainly not carbon emissions. Use some common sense and realize people are using this to line their pockets and gain support for their pet projects. I know- you don't want to hear this, but it is not realistic. Don't let America be controlled with this, PLEASE!! Let us remain free!
  • Posted By: BobDont worry Jane Doe I have notice RoaneCOs posts are generally always on the rude side I am sorry to hear about your daughter.
  • Posted By: Just wonderingthe 3 people that was killed on alt rt 10. 2 being st. joe's students. Did they ever release the cause of the accident?
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.I do care about the safety of our children Anonymous on Jun 30, 2009 at 09:01 AM, no matter where they are or what they are doing. Our children are our future. What I don't care for is someone like Jane Doe on here week after week preaching her little sermons all the while calling people ignorant and showing her hostility toward others. It has always amazed me how most christians will belittle someone else but the minute you catch them being unchristian like they always come up with the old "we christians ain't perfect". Well I know they are not, but by golly they are the first to judge everyone else. These hyporcitical self proclaimed christians are one of the reasons I turned away from organized religion years ago. I just don't agree with these people shoving religion on everyone else. I respect Jane Does right to religion and I would even fight for her to keep that right, but she, like so many others need to keep their religion in their church and their home.
  • Posted By: Big EarlWell hello again good working coal mining families in WV this is Big Earl and I for one am very disappointed that this cap and trade bill got passed into law the other day no thanks to our good representatives from WV. People all I can say is get a woodpile and a bunch of cow chips because your electric is going to get real expensive real quick. These hippies has run up to Washington DC and boo hooed to them tree huggers and longhairs in the EPA until they got even worse done to our jobs but then again what do you expect from a bunch that has a leaf from a dope plant on there sign like the EPA does if you don’t believe me look on this very website I seen a picture of it. Birds of a feather flock together that’s why the good working people were kept out and not allowed to talk at that hearing and the hippies let in. People these hippies has slandered our great state and coal miners first they bring in professor moonbeam from NASA to insult us then he tucks his tail and runs back to NASA and wont debate Mr. DB then they attack our state university mascot the WV mountaineer. Well people I Big Earl have a solution to this lets call WV the “Ivory Soap State,” make our mascot a bathtub that’s a sure fire way to get rid of these smelly hippies and longhairs and keep them out forever.
  • Posted By: MEWe christians are most always judged by our actions and that is to be expected since we are not perfect in any way. We all make mistakes every day,we get angry,we say things we shouldn't and act out our frustrations sometimes to those closest to us and our friends. We try to do better and ask forgiveness when we do stumble from our christian path. Actions speak louder than words at times, good or bad. Yes we adults act like children at times and children try to act like adults all too soon. We never know who we are influenceing with our actions and words so we need to always try to act,say and do what is right. As long as we are on this earth we will stumble but we should strive to be the best we can be and treat people with love and respect no matter how we are treated. I have turned the cheek many times and been slapped alot and will keep on doing it as long as I breath. My time will come soon enough to be judged as to the way I have lived and treated people.
  • Posted By: Jane DoeI love people on the Yell!!! They give me a chance to laugh everyday. Thanks guys!!
  • Posted By: just lookingUMMMM do you people think that christians are perfect??? Do you think we dont get angry?? Only one person is perfect and that is Jesus Christ...And if a christian says they are perfect, then they arnt a very good christian. We all have faults. Alot of you people cant wait to get up and look at the faults of others and criticize what they believe in....
  • Posted By: Patriot1Tea Party. There will be a "Tea Party" July 4th from 4:00-6:30 PM at the City Park in Grayson,Ky
  • Posted By: DonnaPlease! enough of Michael Jackson. He died, now he will appear before God and face his punishment for his sins against children. He was a morally bankrupt person who the media has presented as an icon. It's no wonder children are so messed up today,too much TV and not enough parenting. You too, are responsible for making him appear as a person to be looked up to. He and others in entertainment and sports are not what the children need, they need moral examples to look up to, please stop the glorification of immoral and indecent individuals.
  • Posted By: food for thoughtTo those of you telling me to watch out for Fox news, please go back and read carefully what I said about the media and the government. I thank each of you for your information. I am not out to attack anyone whether acclaimed or the average joe. I just know what I have read from reports and from different sites. This information is what our scientists, meteorologists and so forth use in reference to report the records of weather and temperatures. Again thank each of you, and at last Fox news was the channel the fine people at our local (American made) dealership had channeled on the tube, personally I just watch WSAZ, at the local level.
  • Posted By: Roane Co., why are you not concerned about the safety of small children at amusement parks?
  • Posted By: HtiekRight on Kris you tell em about Fox News. Everyone that watches knows that the dependable networks are ABF, Anyone But Fox. I am just like everyone else in the know, they lie all the time but please dont press me to cite anything specific as I am having coffee right now. I am new to your side, so pardon me if I get something confused. Those photographs of the ice caps are proof positive as far as I am concerned, these flat earth types that dont believe global warming should compare them to the satellite picutres from the colonial period and over the years since for comparison purposes. I once heard the hottest year on record was in the 1930s but what does that prove. And before one of you know it alls talks about Al Gore riding everywhere in a private plane and having such a huge house and running a company that profits from selling carbon credits, some people in life earn their special privileges simply by showing up and enlightening the rest of us, so there.
  • Posted By: polar ice capsthe weather is always changing.sometime it freezes sometimes it melts,thats gods doings,not mans.wasnt it the great mind of ted danson many years ago that explaind that in 15 or 20 years that the oceans were going to raise so many feet that it would destroy and overflo inward to apolipicate level.i guess the people that live on these coast lines dont know they are under water.we americans are so silly.let me explain what a great creator said,it rains but the oceans are never full.ice melts but the oceans never overflo.i think i,ll believe him instead of a.gore or ted danzen.p.b.s last week on a travel show,,i think,,,,the guide said the glacier there had been melting 150years.that was certainly before the industrial revolution.as for fox,world net daily,newsmax,etc.the liberal press has lost it monolopy on liberal so called news.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.After you finish showing your true colors, go back and read my post again Jane Doe. Better yet let me cut and paste it for you. "I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are." And just for the record, I would never "make fun" of a child, but don't think for one second that I won't point out an adult being hypocritical. Are you not the same Jane Doe that three weeks ago was preaching about God, then in the same breath calling someone "IGNORANT"? So let me say it one more time, I hope your little girl is ok. As for you, thank you for proving once again how kind, loving, patient and understanding some of you fine christians can be.
  • Posted By: KrisThis respectfully goes out to "food for thought" for what they said about fox news and global warming.FOX has great movies and tv shows but their view when it comes to the "news" is so far on the "right" way of thinking that it totally obscures reality in their opions of the subject at hand. They'll twist their views to make sure that it is opposite of "liberals" or people on the "left" and how they feel about the subject.Asf or global warming, we have actual time lapsed pictures of the polar caps melting at an alarming rate. You can actually see it happening. If things are cooling down, then why are the polar caps and icebergs melting at an alarming rate? The evidence is right in front of our faces. I sure do hope you're right because if I am, our planet is doomed. Sincerely, Kris
  • Posted By: JethroWHATS WRONG WITH YOU ALL UPDATE THE YELL!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!
  • Posted By: KeithNever thought I'd sit around and miss Bush...well the wrecking ball has appointed a racist to the supreme court, one that is inept and incompetent too. Did you notice her latest ruling was overturned today? The economy is not getting better, those of you out of work have my sympathy because this clown is not doing anything to make it better. He never held a real job, never ran a business, just a rabble rouser and agitator. How do you feel about cap and trade energy tax? All over a phony problem that doesnt even exist; WV will wither away to nothing but hey we can all get jobs in the windmill factory, cant we? How do you feel about having your health benefits taxed to pay for Obamacare? How's the hope and change working out for everyone? What do you think card check is going to do the economy? Check out an article about Obama the African Colonialist on the American Thinker Website, dated June 25th. It explains him to a "T." Obama is a wrecking ball, and he's gonna roll over everyone.
  • Posted By: Big EarlWell hello again good working coal miners of WV this is Big Earl and people I have come to the conclusion that we need some friends in Washington DC that has got some clout. Some people up there has got big names but nobody apparently listens to, that is if they show up at all in court to help you out, those who are sick are excepted. Then there are some people in Charleston who should be in Washington who shall remain unnamed because nobody in Gov. Joes office asked me to say that. But remember who had that bunch from FEMA down here handing out checks before two weeks after the flood water hit and figure out who has clout. You people that went up for the hearing last week should be thanked but the good people never got to say a word but these hippies did, they are apparently now running around the creek with microscopes looking for fish that cant be seen with the eye, something called a microbe, now they are blaming the coal miner for killing off this worthless animal and I sincerely hope Captain D or old Long John will never put some slop like that on my plate when I want good seafood. If you dont see it it cant be of no good use anyway, sort of like a certain US senator with a big rich name who was nowhere to be seen last week.
  • Posted By: Jane DoeTo RoaneCo. How dare you critize my comment. This isn't just some fun arguement!! My child is hurt! Do you think that's funny? Do me a favor, Next time I write about my kids, Don't comment! I hope you don't have any kids because you don't see the harm and worry in my comment, You just want to fight and make fun of someone!! This is really serious!! I don't see the humor!!!
  • Posted By: Big EarlDid any of you people see those PETA nuts on the TV 3 news last night boo hooing about having to tie there dogs up hello again working people of WV this is Big Earl and I don’t know about you but I always thought it was rude and inconsiderate and just being a bad neighbor to let your dogs run wild all over the neighborhood digging up peoples backyards rooting around in garbage cans and doing there business all over the place. Have any of you people in Huntington ever lost a chicken to a wild dog. Even these back to nature types and hippies up here in Boone County tie up there dog to guard there dope patches but they don’t have no sense anyway if they aint going to Washington DC to try and rook us out of our jobs by carrying signs and yelling about some invisible fish that is no good to anybody they are screaming about the coal miner killing polar bears and other animals that don’t even live here. Apparently this bunch had the bright idea to go down to the park on Sunday down in Huntington when people was out with there families trying to walk around and enjoy things and they chained themselves to trees with real dog chains trying to get people to sign a protest petition to of all people a mayor named Wolf now I don’t know about you but that mayor better forget the beware of dog sign he needs to put a beware of the PETA nut sign up in that park.
  • Posted By: The Seeker@food for thought: It is indeed important to check facts, and it heartens me to see that you're of the type that actively seeks them (even thought I fall on the side of the debate that believes in climate change, as it has solid science behind it). However, I caution you on taking anything from FOX news at face value. This is an organization that in 2000 won a case in Florida appeals court in which the court ruled that FOX has no obligation to tell the truth to it's viewers, and can misinform the public under the first amendment. This is also an organization that has been proven to have an agenda, and frames every bit of it's coverage to favor one political party over the other. My advice is to seek out less obviously biased news sources, especially in cases such as global warming, which is an issue that transcends political parties and affects every being on the planet.
  • Posted By: HughHey WVa. Checkin out the YELL. Kind of quiet today. Enjoyed my visit there. Met John Henry at the Big Ben Tunnel,saw the big bridge. Stood at Hawk's Nest and viewed the scenery. If I wasn't so old and crippled, I'd bungee jump from the New River Gorge Bridge. Have folks who live in the Talcott area and some around Hinton. Well won't take much of your time today. Just wanted to check in.
  • Posted By: what is foor for thought?foor?? for thought, you do know Bush made those he commissioned to study it alter their reports when he found out it supported global warming, don't you? Anyone who just sees pictures of the ice caps 30 years ago and now would have to be mentally handicapped not to know there's global warming, the only thing that's possible to debate is the cause of it. Wonder why Fox didn't mention the Bush fiasco? Well I don't really wonder.
  • Posted By: more p.c at wsazgays in usa sounds like it was written by a gay person,so it was printed.it was,nt written by a gay person.it was a second thought,after i commented on other sins,such as adultry,but plainly written by a heterosexual person.it was not printed because im straight and not gay.so goes our country and freedom.
  • Posted By: Lou AnnIve had a similar bad experience at camden park several years ago. Havent went back since. The pricing is just another deterrent to doing business locally. I love this area but am very discouraged by the lack of pride in our appearance in several of our towns, the prices of doing business, the attitude towards the customer , the lack of merchandise. I could go on. We definately are not tourist friendly in the great ohio valley area.
  • Posted By: foor for thoughtLooks like my comment on June 24th may be right. I have done some reading about this Global warming fad the government is putting on. I was sitting in a local car dealership and FOX news was reporting on the government sitting or "burying" studies by two of the highest ranking EPA officials contradicting this myth. Some of the comments from their studies proves the Global temperature if anything has decreased. Although, you should be skeptical about anything the media reports especially when it involves the government these are facts that have been recorded over time. I ask how come when these bozos as Dr. Hansen whom is from NASA(which has done innumerable amounts of damage to our air with their testing) never mention facts as these when trying to prove things they are claiming is a fact. People we in America have became lazy in seeking the truth, I am not disputing anything these scientists and the government tells us, but as we learned in elementary school check facts of both sides.
  • Posted By: gays in u.s.a.another reflection on gays.if you think god doesn,t care about you because you,re gay ,he must love you more than you can comprehend,if not you could have been born ina muslim country.islam has no homosexuals ,they are not rehabilitate,just beheaded.as a loving and compassionate god says"GO AND SIN NO MORE".that doesnt mean just you it means all of us.yes god allows you to choose,he must really care.
  • Posted By: City of MiltonI'm glad that the City of Milton has so much money to spend and that they spend it wisely. Every time I drive through town on a nice day it never fails that someone is washing their personal vehicle at the VFD. Good to see that they budget personal car washes into the city budget. I think I'll stop in there today and see if I can wash my car as well...should be a nice day!
  • Posted By: ValorieAbout four weeks ago, I sent a letter to Camden Park with a friendly suggestion to open the park to the casual visitor again. As of today, I still haven't had a response from them. There used to be a small fee for admission to anyone who just wanted to visit. Once inside the park, a visitor could buy a corn dog or pay to play a few games or ride a few rides. Now people have to pay a full admission price for all day rides, even when they don't plan to stay all day. A lot of people are grandparents who just want to watch their grandchildren ride for an hour or two. Some are young parents with small children who tire easily. As empty nesters, my husband and I would like to drop by to get a bite to eat, play some games or just walk around. Everyone I have spoken to said they would visit Camden Park a whole lot more if they didn't have to pay the full admission price. I challenge everyone to contact Camden Park and ask them to give the people a choice!
  • Posted By: to gay questiongod is not a cruel and unfair god.we all have our faults.is homosuxality a bigger sin than adultry,pornography,lying,stealing, and the list goes on.the clue to these behaviors is wanting to make our lives better.we cant blame anyone but ourselves for what we do.if anyone doesnt change its what they want to do.but as long as it doesnt affect me thats between you and god.but it is wrong,just as cheating on your spouse is sin.would we tell the adulterer that its not sin and not to try being a better person,i think not.celibacy would be better than the same old behavior.these have been struggle since creation.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.Losing your religion Jane Doe? What happened to "turn the other cheek"? I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are. But next time you read of someone else being "furious" or commenting on their personal issues, maybe you should keep your bible quotes to yourself.
  • Posted By: Jane DoeI recently went with my church and my family to Camden Park this past weekend. Me and my 6 year old daughter rode the Spider, We thought it was going to be lots of fun, we were wrong! It was a nightmare! It went on for 10 minutes and was going way too fast! My daughter was terrified and was screaming! I was furious when the man that helped us off asked if she was okay and I said what do you think and he laughed!! I have rode this ride for many years and loved it, But this time I could tell it was different! But then it gets worse, A friend of mine that stayed at the park longer than us informed me that after we left, The spider closed down and said they had crossed wires and the ride was malfunctioning!!! My daughter can't hardly walk today and has a four inch bruise down her back! I'm taking her to the doctor in the morning. If there is something seriously wrong, I will be speaking to the owner and this situation will be takin care of!!!!!
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