Questioning Kanawha County's Drug Testing Policy
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Posted: 9:54 PM Jan 2, 2009
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KANAWHA COUNTY, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- A federal judge just this week said no to random drug testing in Kanawha County Schools, ruling the tests are unconstitutional.

That decision has led to questions about whether the county drug testing policy is legal. County leaders aren't waiting to find out -- Commissioner Kent Carper is taking his concerns to court.

For months, the Kanawha County Board of Education has been ground zero for the debate over random drug testing for school employees. But now the ball is in more than one court after a federal judge called the board's policy unconstitutional and unnecessary.

That policy is very similar to the one for Metro 911 employees.

"It's every bit as comprehensive as the one that the board of education was getting ready to pass," Carper said. "So, if that policy fails, the policy at the 911 system will change."

Carper said the drug problem doesn't discriminate, and no county employee should get a free pass.

"This business that there is no drug problem is not true," Carper said. "We have seen that we have a drug problem. Now is it pervasive or overwhelming? Massive? No."

The similarities in policies make the decision from inside a Charleston federal court house hard to ignore, so Carper plans to bring the county into the fight.

The county's drug policy has in been in place for more than a year, and Kanawha County commissioners plan to discuss the future of the policy at the next commission meeting Thursday.
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Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 7, 2009 at 12:10 PM
everyone else has to be tested to be in society i dont think that its too much to ask of the teachers... i think ALL teachers everywhere should have to be tested... maybe if they were our kids could go to school and get an education... there are very few good teachers these days... i recently had to go to the school because of one teacher doing more shopping online than teacher her class and there was 1 child in the whole class that was passing... and she was more concerned with shopping and cheerleading.... our school systems are a mess.. like i said, i think all teachers everywhere should have to be tested...
Posted by: Hope on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:42 PM
Why should the teachers be ruled out? Construction workers, plant workers and many many other professionals have taken these random drug test for years. Why should the teachers be exempt? Do they have something to hide?
Posted by: Saul on Jan 6, 2009 at 02:15 PM
I still don't see the problem among professionals and drug use. This debate is going on because some drug test manufacturer wants more money and some people are actually standing up for their rights. I remember comments about what a good doctor that ex-cardiologist was and the only problems his drug use was causing was a DUI. So unless all of Wall Street was high when it was gambling with derivatives or Bush was under the influence when he put us on a wild goose chase for WMD's, how has this "drug problem" you speak of effected you? No, I don't want the people who are responsible for me or my child's safety to be on drugs, but I'm quite sure if they are and its a problem then it will be taken care of. Thats why you have a boss. I don't need a drug test to hide behind when I fire employees who perform poorly. Nor do I think drug use/abuse is only a "redneck or ghetto thing". I do however believe drug abuse is more prevalent among the uneducated.
Posted by: Janet on Jan 6, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Yea!!! Finally, a judge in the area who upheld the constitution. This is great news for the future and bad news to all the nosey people out there who love to go through other peoples urine. BTW, if you think your teacher, nurse, doctor, etc. is stoned then ask for another one. All of you should be fighting to uphold your own personal civil liberties and privacy. Thanks to the ACLU for standing up for us! Everyone seems to have lost the meaning of freedom. We are still American right? or did the terrorists win?
Posted by: JAMIE on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:07 AM
HAS ANYBODY EVEN THOUGHT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE DECISION NOT TO DRUG TEST TEACHERS,ARE PROBABLY USERS ALSO.THEY DONT WANT TO PASS THAT BECAUSE IT MIGHT TRICKLE ON DOWN THE LINE AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ONE TOO(THEY WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY FAIL).IF YOU ARE TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN,THEN YOU NEED TESTED.EVERYONE ELSE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS TO,SUCH AS BUS DRIVERS,CUSTODIANS,ETC.IN MY OPINION THEY SHOULD DRUG TEST(RANDOMLY)UNLESS THERE IS A REASON,BUT I WOULD START OUT TESTING ALL OF THE IDIOT TEACHERS THAT ARE STANDING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD PROTESTING THE POLICY,I WOULD TEST THEM FIRST.THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE OR IT WOULD NOT BE A BIG DEAL.
Posted by: thinkaboutit on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Saul, WHAT??? No problem among professionals? Would you consider a doctor or nurse a professional? What about the heart doctor from St Marys Hospital that was arrested for DUI and possession about four months ago? Is he a professional? Surely, you wouldn't think that drug use/abuse is just a redneck and ghetto thing do ya? Drug users are very clever at hiding their addiction and will go to great lengths to convince someone there is not a problem. Hmm, Maybe going to court to fight the nonsense. KCS, if you have concerns about the safety of some of your children aren't you required by law to report that? You're right it is time that people addressed this issue. I have been griping about CPS for years now. I only hope that CPS and the judges that deal with these cases are randomly tested too. Would you want a stoned nurse, doctor or other healthcare worker working in the OR while your child is under anesthesia?  
Posted by: smith on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:01 PM
i tell you what, my sister is a teacher at a school in ky, she takes pain pills all day long. but, she is a wonderful person and teacher. you can still teach and be on pills is what im trying to submit.truth hurts dont it....
Posted by: allison on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:21 PM
In response to the person who thinks not even burger flippers should be drug tested. Remember that when you are placing your child on a bus, climbing into a cab or other form of public transportation or having surgery at a local hospital or passing a big rig on the interstate. Teachers are responsible for our children 8 hours of the day. To think that it is unconstitutional for them to be drug tested is just stupid. My husband is a salesman and is randomly drug tested. The only ones who are complaining are the ones who use illegal drugs.
Posted by: To Saul on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:49 PM
Get your professional little head out of your #$%. There apparently is a drug problem otherwise it would not be up for discussion. Apparently Saul has no children and could care less about them. Go ahead drink another glass of purple kool-aid!!! And another thing, drugs are scary and bad!!! You will come to realize when you or a person you love hits rock bottom. Go ahead, think OF the children instead of yourself!!
Posted by: Saul on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:56 PM
Don't waste my tax dollars on random drug tests, if the commissioner can't figure out who has a drug problem without a random drug screen, maybe we need a better commissioner. I didn't realize there was such a drug problem among professionals- oh wait thats because there isn't one. But lets throw our money down another rat hole because drugs are scary and bad. Oh think of the children!
Posted by: To SL on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:27 AM
In response to your comment... It is my business as a parent when you are around my kid at school all day. Give hugs, not drugs!! It is still illegal to smoke weed, period!!
Posted by: dave on Jan 5, 2009 at 07:27 AM
I like to know how a teacher thinks they are better then everyone else when it come's to this.Just about every job now you have to be drug tested.Like Chris said they are trying to hide something.It's funny they make the kids take random test and the bus drivers so why not them.Who wants a teacher on drugs teaching their kids in school.
Posted by: Pharmacy Employee on Jan 4, 2009 at 09:38 PM
You would only be against it if you didn't have a prescription for it. You won't get in trouble if you have a doctors order for it. You will get in trouble if you go up the creek and buy it from Billy Bob! I have seen 1 particular school bus driver try to get her lortabs early all the time and had a excuse every time, always going out of town. That one gets old. I even caught her trying to steal! Yes test them!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Chris on Jan 4, 2009 at 03:14 PM
I think that the only ones that are against random drug testing in schools are the ones that have something to hide. If you don't have anything to hide, why should you not take the drug test. These are our children being taught in school and we want the best for them. I think that all schools in all states should have random drug test to insure that the kids aren't being influenced by the people who are educating them. All I want is the best for my kid, so shouldn't the teachers want the same.
Posted by: SL on Jan 4, 2009 at 02:55 AM
What someone does on their time (after work) is their business.
Posted by: To Teach on Jan 3, 2009 at 08:34 PM
Who forced you to be a teacher? Ineffective parents don't get a check every month to deal with kids ! YOU DO, If you don't like the job get another one. Unless you have something to hide why whine about being tested.
Posted by: K on Jan 3, 2009 at 05:38 PM
As a mother and a health care professional, we all need to open our eyes to a large ever growing drug problem. As you sit there reading all of the comments, how many people can honestly say that they do not know anyone affected by drugs?! You do not have to be poor, unemployed, homeless, uneducated. It can be ANYONE! And as healthcare provider I am drug screened on a regular basis. Is that unfair? Do you want my judgement clouded if/when you or a loved one is brought for emergent medical treatment? I have nothing to hide and am glad that there is testing in place. It is called safety.To all the teachers, why has this struck a nerve? After all it is supposed to be about the kids! As a parent it would make me feel a heck of alot better knowing that my child is left with a teacher that is drug free!!!!
Posted by: Peter Cholakis on Jan 3, 2009 at 04:35 PM
The federal judge must be an idiot. Random drug testing is completely legal.
Posted by: cliff on Jan 3, 2009 at 02:47 PM
i guess i can go to work tommorrow and be blowed out of my head and still have my job i dont have nothing to hide
Posted by: KCS on Jan 3, 2009 at 01:59 PM
Thank you Teach - Many teachers and other employees are tired of being the excuse and scapegoat for the other adults in students lives that don't or won't be responsible themselves. It's much easier to constantly find or create someone else's faults and blame them for the safety issues concerning one's own children. I have had multiple students whom I have had safety concerns because of what they go home to yet others aren't concerned about that. One even commenting they get up each day wondering when their parent will be caught for using and selling drugs and they will be taken away. Why don't these parents have to take responsibility for the situations they're putting kids in instead of creating fears and destroying the confidence of their children in the many school employees that are very caring and trustworthy. Yes, many parents are ok, but many are greatest threat in children's lives in multiple ways - Let's address that issue for a change!
Posted by: To Rorshach: on Jan 3, 2009 at 01:55 PM
Ah, the old liberal argument about violating a person's rights when it's not in line with the liberal agenda. I was in the military for 20 years and was drug tested at least every 6 months or more. Never had a problem with it because I didn't feel safe working beside someone who may be under the influence of a drug (prescription or illegal). I also never failed a test. I also know a few teachers that partake in illegal substances and I think there has been a few news articles in the last couple of years involving teachers and drugs. Heck, I would even support drug testing before you could have children or get public assistance but I know the "all knowing liberals" would have a field day with that rule.
Posted by: KCS teacher on Jan 3, 2009 at 01:48 PM
I am against RANDOM drug testing for anyone - teachers, burger flippers, shoe salesmen. It's an invasion of our privacy. Period. As for going to a pain clinic - my husband was injured during his service in Iraq War in 03-04 and he takes personal leave from his classroom to go to a pain clinic in order to receive steroid shots in his neck to alleviate pain. Don't assume someone is "high on prescription pills" just because they go to a pain clinic.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 3, 2009 at 01:44 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why it's unconstitutional to drug test teachers, but not EVERY OTHER PROFESSION.
Posted by: Phil on Jan 3, 2009 at 01:21 PM
Test everybody or nobody,no one is above reproach.
Posted by: poorteacher on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:54 PM
I wish teachers and our unions would get this involved in our pay raises and peia premiums. It's time for a strike over these issues, not whether or not you should take a drug test. TAKE THE TEST AND FIGHT OVER THE REAL ISSUES.
Posted by: RoaneCo. on Jan 3, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Ok, if it unconstitutional to drug test teachers then it should be unconstitutional to test anyone. Pretty simple don't you think?
Posted by: Bud on Jan 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM
I work daily, pay taxes(fed, state, city, property, phone etc.) and on just about all of them it has a spot for school tax so really the tax payers employ the teachers so if I had to be drug tested to get my job and have to be willing to be drug tested to keep it what makes them think they are better then the people who pay they salary. The groups that should be drug tested first and foremost are the people the taxpayers employ. And police, teachers, public officals and walfare recipients who get something for nothing should be in that group.
Posted by: Nick on Jan 3, 2009 at 10:37 AM
I typically stand behind our teachers, agreeing that they are the most underpaid professionals in the state. To sum up the situation, the public schools have a drug problem–but they don’t know how big a problem it is, because there’s no drug testing. Most of us have come to accept workplace drug-testing as a necessary part of any anti-drug program, but not the Teachers. You might think they would want to do everything possible to root out druggies from their midst–but if you thought that, you thought wrong. Instead, the teachers seem determined to obstruct efforts to clean up the mess. Most of us have come to accept workplace drug-testing as a necessary part of any comprehensive anti-drug program, but not the teachers. What are we teaching are children? The lesson here is It’s ok to use drugs. Watch, they will now ask for a raise in exchange for drug testing. Than cry if they get tested. My son commented the other day about seeing a teacher he highly respected at a party using drugs. What a let down!
Posted by: Teach on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:10 AM
I've said it once and I will say it again... Drug test me right after all of the ineffective parents. I have 20 kids in my class and only 9 of them that do their homework or bring back anything. Wanna worry about me? I can't do it without you at home. I can only instill so much, you have to make learning a priority at home. Finding ways to destroy or bring down teachers isn't helping. Be an adult. Do your job at home and I will continue to go over and above at school.
Posted by: anonymous on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:09 AM
If the teachers don't have to take a drug test. It shouldn't apply to anyone, nobody should have to take the test no matter what job you do!
Posted by: KY Teacher on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:04 AM
The idea that this is a privacy issue (Mark) is totally ridiculous. Picking a teacher during their planning period would make this unseen to the students. I think they should do the testing. Yeah, we aren't the same as chemical engineers, but would you want someone who is on drugs dealing with your kids all day long? Why not just get them a babysitter and a bag of weed? As a teacher, we have the upmost importance of taking care of our students and being at the top of our game every day. If someone is on drugs, that is not what I call being at the top. To those teachers who oppose the testing, it's probably because you are high when you get home. The drug problem is huge in this area. WAKE UP! I've had a kid in class O.D. and died 9 times on the way to the hospital. Several other kids have been randomly tested for drugs and about a fourth of them have been positive. We are trying to save a kid from going down the wrong path, should teachers be a role model for our students?
Posted by: Joanne on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:02 AM
Mark, obviously it's a privacy issue. However, I doubt that it would be done on any teacher's own time and it's very possible to simply explain that the teacher was needed in the office or where ever. The statement that every child would know really has no bearing on this anyway. As far as your statement, "A teacher only has the risk of being ineffective in the classroom.", are you kidding me? This is a very sad view of our children and their future. "Only". It is about safety. As other teachers from the district have stated, they'd gladly accept random testing. It's the ACLU looking for a fight, even though it's in the best interest of our children, and those teachers that should probably look into treatment.
Posted by: curious on Jan 3, 2009 at 08:46 AM
just about any job now involves mandatory drug testing. our teachers in WV are no different besides if you have nothing to hide, drug testing should not be a big deal.
Posted by: K on Jan 3, 2009 at 08:33 AM
To Mark, you wouldn't consider a teaching as a job that impacts safety? Do you have a child in school? Would you trust your 5 or 6 year old with some loser messed up on drugs? If a teacher isn't a "safety sensitive" position, then I don't know what is. How about you take your kids and drop them off at a crack house for the night....would you do that?
Posted by: Wake Up!! on Jan 3, 2009 at 08:17 AM
These teachers not testing are doing nothing accept leaving a bad taste in the mouths of the public and with parents that have children in school. Is this what you really want is distrust and no faith in you as teachers? I understand that some teachers like KCS may not have a problem but, unfortunately this situation does stereotype all involved. It is sad that students have no problem being tested just to play football and yet you have teachers that ask for a raise every time they can get a levy voted on!! Come on!! Teachers if you want continued faith and support from parents and your community you need to be tested. You are no different that an over the road driver making deliveries or a state worker typing a paper. They want paid for their services too. You need to be tested the same as everyone else to show that now above everything else you are not hiding something because at this point that is what this has become only a way to avoid a test because some of you do do drugs!!! Sad
Posted by: Concerned on Jan 3, 2009 at 08:12 AM
There is a drug problem in the schools and parents should get together and demand that teachers be tested. Most companies require drug testing before an employee is hired. If it is against the teachers rights to be tested then don't test my children they have rights too. How many other companies will be affected by this judges decision? Teachers want higher pay because of the job they do with our children. My suggestion is that if you want the money then show that you deserive it. There are good teachers in our school system but the few bad ones make all of them look bad. I would like to say that a teacher who is against what the union is doing should work to replace your union representives, but that is easier said than done. Once they get a little power it is hard to get rid of them.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 3, 2009 at 07:58 AM
What makes TEACHERS any different from the rest of us that are subject to random drug testing???? TEACHERS should be drug tested. If its unconstitutional for teachers to be tested then its unconstitutional for the rest of us, as well. STOP WHINNING, TAKE THE TEST, IF YOUR CLEAN, GOOD, IF YOUR NOT, THEN PAY THE PRICE. JUST BECAUSE YOUR A TEACHER DOES NOT MEAN YOUR NOT CAPABLE OF ABUSING DRUGS/ALCOHOL.
Posted by: Give a Hoot on Jan 3, 2009 at 07:56 AM
Let the lawsuits begin...
Posted by: a on Jan 3, 2009 at 07:09 AM
Like I have said before... Every job that I have ever had required random drug testing. If you don't submit then you are fired.. Why should teachers be expempt from the same standards that the rest of the world is required to live by.
Posted by: bubba on Jan 3, 2009 at 05:04 AM
Lee's comments are the perfect example as to why we need drug testing for teachers.
Posted by: William on Jan 3, 2009 at 04:44 AM
The ladies doth protest too much, methinks...
Posted by: gvn on Jan 3, 2009 at 04:33 AM
Ive heard the teachers come up with every reason why they shouldnt be tested . The fact is many teachers are taking perscription pain medicine , its a national epidemic . I have a CDL and Im subject to random testing why are they different than me . I have seen a neighbor who is a cabell county school principal going to a "Pain Clinic" on school days ? How effective is someone taking Oxycontin every day , making administrative decisions in our schools . I hope Kanawha county will go all the way and test all employees of the county . Its time to quit protecting drug users and drag them into the light of accountibility .Drugs in our society has caused the downfall of the United States .
Posted by: Rorshach on Jan 3, 2009 at 02:53 AM
Ah, that old right wing argument.... "Why worry about taking a drug test if you have nothing to hide?" Sorry, but that's not the issue, folks. The issue is a grown, tax paying citizen's right to privacy. Wake up people, we don't have a lot of things left in our lives that are private. I'd at least like my bodily fluids to remain a subject that's between me and my doctor, not me and my employer, co-workers, and government.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:41 AM
any one i know of that every did drugs sooner or later got caught so if the teachers are doing drugs they will get caught all in due time just a matter of time
Posted by: Mark on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:34 AM
The problem is privacy issues. In random drug testing, most companies require you to immediately drop what you are doing and go withing an hour or two of being selected. If a teacher is selected, every student in his/her class will know they are being drug tested when the principal comes in and tells the teacher. Also, it may be that teachers have to do it on their own time. I get paid for my time by my company if I am chosen for random testing. Another point is safety. Drug testing is really necessary for jobs that impact safety. I would not consider a teacher in the same boat as me (a chemical engineer). What I do in my job can have drastic (life or death) consequences to people and the community. School bus drivers are tested for the same reason. They have a bus load of children they are driving. A teacher only has the risk of being ineffective in the classroom. A principal can request a drug test of any teacher they believe may be on drugs (it is already on the books).
Posted by: KCS on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:30 AM
As a KCS employee I am here to say that the majority of us have nothing to hide and were prepared to have any test given to us prove that. I am VERY tired of being lumped together with a few union people who want to complain over everything when I and most colleagues go to work every day truly dedicated to just trying our best to help children. I hate it's giving the idea we all have something to hide because for many that isn't it at all. Many hard-working caring people quietly do GREAT work with kids, many lacking any parental support, yet our efforts are overshadowed by vocal unions and a very small few (8 out of a few thousand last year) employees who actually had a problem. The rest of us have a right be innocent until proven guilty of something or should have the right to prove our innocence to an extremely judgmental, accusing, and increasingly arrogant public.
Posted by: Drugtestedcountyemploee on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:03 AM
It really makes me wonder what kind of people we have teaching our children. No wonder our children have low test scores and high drop out rates we must have alot of teachers under the influence!! Why else would they be so against drug testing? My company has random drug testing and I think it is wonderful.
Posted by: no name on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM
They need to pass this in every County even Wayne County.
Posted by: Joanne on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:22 PM
I think that this decision is based on out-dated constitutional rights. Do you really think that our forefathers took loads of pain pills and then got in their buggies and rode to work crafting our constitution? No, I don't believe that they foresaw over 200 years into the future and could fathom the destructive powers of drugs. I believe any profession that either has serious risks of injury to themselves or others, or are in contact with children or other patients need to be randomly tested. If this isn't acceptable protocol for them, find a new profession or start their own business where they're free to smoke, snort or take their drugs. Not around my kids or my life in the balance.
Posted by: lee on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM
when will it stop the gas price go down then up come on were not reach whens anoff give us a break man we cant hardly pay my bills as is every one needs to say stop and put there foot down
Posted by: lee on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:15 PM
whats the problem if there not duing drugs why want they they take a drug teast do think theyer any beter then anyone else news flash your not so take it and shut allready it dont hert so what are you hiding that you dont want the parents to now what youre doing haa drugys
Posted by: mom in cabell on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM
as i said before responding the other day to this on another web site is basically..do the tests and shutup! you all wanted a raise well you dont deserve it...you all dont want the drug tests but yet you think the kids should do it. well we do here in cabell and im VERY GLAD of it! my kids have the rights i give them and only me! i set the examples and there are not alot of teachers that do set a good example that ive seen and know of... but yet let a kid do or say something wrong and you are the first to condem them! so set the example and do things you dont like and be done w/ it!!!! or do you have a problem you are trying to hide...um???maybe. thats what ive really been wondering!
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  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello working people of WV this is Big Earl and people there is nothing wrong with eating good wholesome foods like bacon sausage eggs lard flour and the like all these PETA types are ganging up on our good food like you cant go to a baseball game now and get a hotdog without a PETA nut bothering you boo hooing about the poor little pig that turned out as a hotdog. Now my favorite restaurant in the world Kentucky Fired Chicken has thrown in twith these nuts and is grilling chicken now. Chicken was never meant to be grilled only fried regular or extra crispy. So people I say get busy we have work to do they is two states in front of us we in WV have to reclaim our top spot as best fed in the whole country go down to the foodland or kroger and get a cube of regular mountain dew a sack of Lays chips and some good ball park big red smokeys with a big bowl of chili and have a grill out tomorrow to celebrate the fourth of July in style and may I say God bless the USA and coal miners too.
  • Posted By: food for thought: Yes I am a Christian. I do need to understand the book of Revelation more and the end time prophecy. Like most I have the concept of it. Just to make it short, government dependence(happening more than ever) and is almost being forced for the citizens of this country to rely on. Cap and trade?(sign of the mark of the beast?)I don't know. I am ready. You that believe in science is fine, I do too. I do not go as far as to believe every report they give out. I pose this question. if you are so worried about global warming that means you don't like heat or burning:correct? Hmmm, think on this of what in Revelation I do understand. The lake of fire is where the worm dieth not and the fire is never quenched. Eternity is forever, on this Earth we are just passing through.
  • Posted By: to why: no ,hetrosexuals wont go to hell any slower than gays.adultry fornication,stealing lying murder etc,are all sins.every one sins,it just that you cant say you want to be a christian,and keep on with bad habits or not want to change and expect god to say thats all right.life is a struggle for all of us.we are expected to repent and try our hardest to do whats right.god respects that.you are not in any more danger than any other sinner.i know that homosexuality is a sin but so is adultry.would we tell an adulter that its all right to keep on hurting their marriage and spouse and thats alright,no.i would rather live beside an honest caring,productive gay person than a dishonest evil selfish nosy buissybody any day.we are only responsible for our own sins and actions.you sound stressed,lighten up.but homosexuality is a sin,like adultry and fornication,nobody gets a free pass.
  • Posted By: Patty: Good points, Htiek, but the status quo with coal mining, which is a dirty business, no matter how it is marketed, i.e., "clean coal" (coal is dirty, period), will remain till the resources are depleted, the land and environment of the coal fields are destroyed, which is pretty much the case at present.
  • Posted By: bonn: One more thing and I really will stop. Why does the weather cycle? I do not know everything-no one does. But everything has its purpose. Sometimes, more cold is called for. If we don't have hard winters snakes and mosquitoes thrive, for one. Mosquitoes are a large part of fish diet. And snakes keep rodents in check. But too much cold hurts other things that call for warmer temps. Quail is one thing that comes to mind that suffer in the frigid temps. We just don't understand all of the workings of these things. But it is all to keep a balance-many times in things we ourselves have killed off, such as bear and wolves. Even if we don't like some species, they all serve a purpose and nature helps keep that balance. Our world really was wonderfully made. With all the changes in temperature, we still have seasons. You can know it will be cold in winter and hot in summer. The excesses serve a purpose we sometimes can not see. Strive to learn of all of her wonders, not follow blindly.
  • Posted By: bonn: I would like to apologize if I have been short and critical. I really am sorry. It is no excuse, but I have a very sick child who may be dying and I get so upset at the state of our world. I do have to quit reading these comments. But I hope I have caused a few people at least to think with their own common sense instead of blindly following whatever. Some theories may be correct. But many ARE for monetary purposes. We each were given a mind to think with. Question everything before taking it as it appears. And be sure and thank a veteran for the freedom we celebrate this weekend. Too many have died to protect it to just give it up willingly. And whether or not you are religious, lets try to love one another. Love can fix so many things! Try to keep our world clean, But that doesn't have to bankrupt us. We can all do our part in whatever ways we can. The old saying "Give a hoot, don't pollute" should not have gone out of style. And use your wikipedia to read "Ice Age" to see cycling.
  • Posted By: Follow up on cap and rape: CNSNews.com) – The 1,400-page cap-and-trade legislation pushed through by House Democrats contains a new federal policy that residential, commercial, and government buildings be retrofitted to increase energy efficiency, leaving it up to the states to figure out exactly how to do that. This means that homeowners, for example, could be required to retrofit their homes to meet federal “green” guidelines in order to sell their homes, if the cap-and-trade bill becomes law. The bill, which now goes to the Senate, directs the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to develop and implement a national policy for residential and commercial buildings. The purpose of such a strategy – known as the Retrofit for Energy and Environmental Performance (REEP) – would be to “facilitate” the retrofitting of existing buildings nationwide.In other words all your appliances-heating-stove -fridge-windows-would have to meet green standards before we sell SOCAILISM HAS ARRIVED YESWEDID
  • Posted By: ANOTHER YES WE CAN: First you paid to insure your car. Soon you may have to add health insurance premiums to that stack of monthly bills as well. In a revamped health care system envisioned by senators, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face fines of more than $1,000. The details were unveiled Thursday in a health care overhaul bill supported by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.SOCAILISM IS HERE The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines would raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals
  • Posted By: bonn: Good grief! The brain washing has gone so far it will never get better. Some of this way of thinking makes me physically ill in my stomach. All of one mind! Mindless devotion to whatever is contrary to common sense and whatever theory is being passed around. Most families have both parents working, some two jobs, just to make it now. Soon you won't even be able to work enough to carry your family, the government and the ones who won't work. Then you will be disposable and they will start killing you off because you can't give them enough money. But you will blindly keep following. It is easy to see how Hitler took control and how it is being set up for the antichrist to take control. I quit. I will never read another comment. And Kris, did that nut not know the sky has always appeared blue? Hahaha Goodbye. I know you will reply, but I won't be reading it. Never again. Either you believe God or the scientists. I choose God. And freedom!
  • Posted By: cap and trade: world net daily has an informative article on home ownership and all buildings in u.s.it is about total government control of everyone.you will have to answer to the gov.or else.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To Pearl: Thanks for the comment. I try to be an adult and make the usual comments and complaints, But how would you feel if every time you wrote something, Someone would respond back with their own opinions and say that you are wrong! Just the other day I wrote how my child was injured at Camden Park! Of course RoaneCo. had to write something and attack me about my decision to get angry about the situation. Yes, I agree that I should just turn the other cheek but I was raised to stand up for myself!! Why I'm a target I'll never know but I think that I have a right just like everyone else on here and to say my opinion on things whether people agree or not.
  • Posted By: Why?: EVERYONE SINS! Why is being gay the worst sin that sends you "straight" to HELL? Heterosexuals can do all the "sining" they want and still go to heaven but LGBT can't.
  • Posted By: Justme: Coal mining has been around for years and years. I'm sick of all these nuts that are griping about mining. You nuts are always griping. Maybe you need to get a life. If your so against it.. Then turn your lights out. And stop using the power. Move on, and stop taking jobs away from our miner's.
  • Posted By: Htiek: What always amazes me about people in WV is their slavish devotion to coal mining even though it is killing the planet, costs more jobs than it creates, poisons the water, destroys the mountains, scars the land, kills the snail darter, and other horrible things. Things are all so backwards in this country why dont we switch over to something that lasts and is free like the sun and wind? Even if the president said that stuff and I doubt he did and even if he did you are misquoting him or taking him out of context he is right if there is one sure way to get people to stop turning their air conditioners down to 76 it is to raise the price, just like gasoline. People we can learn to ride bikes and walk again, just like they did in the old days, that will help give us exercise and decrease the obesity rate in WV. Food is another area, the slop that people eat like MacDonalds, trans fats, regular soft drinks, anybody with half a brain knows the intelligent thing to do is tax regular soda pop.
  • Posted By: Gandalf: A tea party? Oh my! I must relay this information to my friend Alice and the Mad Hatter. Door Mouse and Rabbit too. They will be thrilled! Oh my bad, must have picked out the wrong book today. Ta Ta!
  • Posted By: Pearl: Roane Co why dont you and Jane pursue your romance elsewhere the yell is for complaints.
  • Posted By: Kris: Just throwing this out there. I'm sitting on my couch wearing sweat pants and short sleeve shirt. I'm thinking about shuting my windows and turning on my heat. Shouldn't I be turning on the air conditioner instead? It's the 2nd of July. Not saying it's global warming but it doesn't seem right. Haven't heard of any heat warning anywhere is the US so far this summer. Great for us but doesn't feel right.
  • Posted By: Kris: Hi Bonn, it is true that these cycles do occur over time. Scientists have taken core samples from the earth and the ice to show these cycles. However, none of the samples show such a dramatic change in such a short period of time. I am a smoker and I will admit that my second hand smoke can and probably will effect the lungs of a non-smoker. The tons of carbon monoxide and other pollutants that we release into our atmosphere HAS TO have an effect on our atmosphere. True story: there was a scientist that day after day after day couldn't figure out why the sky was so blue and clear. Then it struck him, there hadn't been ANY planes in the air for three days. That was 911. What you put out, is what you get back. If you put love out, you will get love back. If you put out negativity, you will get negativity back. For every action, there is a reaction whether it's good or bad. It's in our hands to do our best not to cause an adverse impact to our planet. Peace to ALL!
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello again good working coal mining people of WV this is the coal miners friend Big Earl with news of yet another hippie plot to stick there big noses further into our business now some of these people in Congress has throwed in with the tree huggers they are trying to make it so you cannot sell your house without some nut from the hippie EPA coming in and inspecting it to make sure you are green enough to suit there tastes. This so called cap and trade bill that these busy body do gooders are pushing on us will destroy our jobs and run up the electric bills so that everybody will have to live like the Waltons with 27 people under one roof just to keep warm. Now the average hippie longhair don’t care noway because they would have us all living in mud huts riding mules wearing sandals and weaving baskets to load down with califlowers and arougalas tofu and alfalfa to take up on some worthless mountaintop as an offering to there windmill god instead of having nice homes, cars, a job and cool air in the summer and heat in the winter ALL THANKS TO THE COAL MINER. Anything to bother people attracts these hippies like flies to a cowpie.
  • Posted By: to hteik: hteik has 2 comment .the global warming one was hillarous.it was june 30.he must not have gotten the same public education i did,he was taught that we had satellites in colonial time.but then again he think algoe is really smart,he doesnt know al didn,t really invent the innernet.i think fox news and conservative talk radio would do him a world of good,he,d be shocked at what he doesn,t know.
  • Posted By: Amy: Hey Keith, I must have missed that interview because I was busy clinging to my guns and religion. No, really, I did see it. It's kind of strange how people become so shocked when this stuff is introduced in the House of Reps. Obama outlined every plan he intended to get pushed through and a lot of people just didn't listen. Next time I hope people vote for the best candidate not the best slogan. Yes we can....bankrupt the nation!
  • Posted By: Patriot1: Tea Party: There will be a tea party in Grayson, Ky on July 4th. It will be held at the City Park from 4:00-6:30PM
  • Posted By: Dave: The seat belt law is no law. Its nothing but a deliberate attempt to extort money off the American people,use communist law and control the populace. THE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER VOTED ON IT, BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET YOU BELIEVE THAT IT WILL SAVE LIVES. TELL THEM TO GIVE YOU THE FIGURES ON ACCIDENTAL OPERATIONS.And if that doesn't satisfy you then why are we allowing our young brave soldiers to be killed,and for whom? WHY AREN'T THESE NEWSPAPERS BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE? Because the nations 96% are owned and controled by the WEALTHIEST.
  • Posted By: bonn: I was trying to make a point. Perhaps not in the best way. I get so discouraged seeing what is happening around us. One group of scientists call for us to spread soot on all the snow up north to absorb heat to counter the coming ice age. Another (more popular) group calls for painting our roofs white to reflect the heat that is melting our ice caps. Which group is right? Neither. Our earth is doing exactly as it has been doing all along. Cycling naturally. Did it plan it all on its own? Hardly. But no one wants to hear that. It reminds me of "chicken little" yelling "the sky is falling". Only this is not so funny-this is control. And what is even sadder is-people seem to WANT to be controlled. This earth will continue as always until one preplanned day it all comes to a screeching halt. Then a new earth will be created. I will not be caught off guard. I read The Book. I know where I will be. Do you? And do you really enjoy giving those schemers your money that much? I hope one day...
  • Posted By: Keith: A few questions for the Yell audience: Does anyone remember when Obama gave that interview in SanFran Cisco and said that he would not prevent the construction of a coal fired plant, but his policies would bankrupt anybody that tried to build one? That policy was cap and trade. I heard O say that energy prices, under his administration, would "necessairly skyrocket." Is this the hope and change you guys voted for? How will you afford your electric and gas service under this man who cares so much for the poor? Obama said once that he was not bothered that the price of gas had risen so high, just that it happened so fast. How does everyone feel about the gas price? Obama raked John Pablo McCain over the coals for suggesting health care benefits be taxed as income, now he is going to do the same thing to pay for "free" care to illegal aliens, deadbeats, etc...but union workers will be exempt from this tax. How does that make you feel if you work for a living and are not in a union? H&C
  • Posted By: Amy: Hteik, "all is well" because people like us! Give me a break. If all were well, we would not have the largest unemployment rate in 26 years. The stimulus package would prevent it from going above 8%, remember? How is Iran not our business but Honduras is? The people of Honduras have a Constitution very similar to ours and we should support the people not an extremist who is trying to take over their country. The 22nd Amendment does a great service for our nation. IF it would be reversed that would be O.K too. At the rate Obama is going W. could beat him in 2012. At least I would sleep better at night.
  • Posted By: Just Me: Wow Jane Doe, give it a rest. I really don't think God would be please with this going on and on and on...healthy banter is fine, but this is not healthy banter. Christians absolutely can and do get angry, it's what they do with that anger that counts. It doesn't matter where, when, or even IF you go to church...what matters is that you have accepted Christ into your heart and asked for forgiveness of your sins. God didn't save us to judge others, he saved us to lead others to him. I've said many times...what if the person you just yelled at, told off, or whatever showed up at your church on Sunday? Would you be proud of your behavior?
  • Posted By: Sophie: Roane County is a beautiful place. The country roads snake along past fields, farms and old homes we wish could talk. Looneyville is indeed named after the Looney family, so is Gandeeville. My father was from Roane Co. & graduated from Walton High School in the 40's. He told me tales of his school days, friends, boyish pranks, old cars and the fun they had at the 4-H camp. Spencer was a big place to them. Roane Co. gave us many war veterans and kept distant family & friends together with the annual "Roane County Reunion". I don't even know if they still have it, but we used to go. I remember seeing Sen. Robert Byrd play his fiddle there. The Black Walnut Festival in October(?) is a good time to visit Spencer. They usually have a parade, arts & crafts and a museum. You can enjoy a slice of Americana, along with a slice of homemade pie.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: The great Dale Carnegie once said "You never win an argument".Most of you know he wrote" How to Win Friends and Influence People'.Some of you should put this on your Christmas List.I think I will dust it off and revisit this old classic.
  • Posted By: cap and trade: welcome to ''before tax and tax'bill going thru the powers that be.look at your electric bills this monthe there is an enviornmental tax at 2.2cents for every kilowatt you use.can we even imagine what our electric bill will be,not to mention every thing we consume,food water ,every necessity that cant be done without.we in easternky have good reps.in washington,every one in surrounding states should put your so called reps a lot of pressure to defeat this tax and tax bill that is being pushed by a few people to make them richer and control every aspects of productive peoples lives.look at your gasbill also,you will see only a very small portion for gas but the rest in fees and taxes.look at your phone bill you will see a 100percent markup in taxes and fees.its time to put pressure on politicans to protect the citizens and not the lobiest.
  • Posted By: justanotherfly: sounds like jane doe is looking for an easy way out ie a lawsuit
  • Posted By: to bonn: i couldn,t have said it better myself.some things have to be explained like you are talking to a 5year old.but like some 5year olds that are stubborn and spoiled rotten they dont listen.wait till the cost of every thing sky rockets and they will be the first to rant and rave that nobody told them.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To my biggest fan, RoaneCo: Ummm! It's sounds to me like you have a lot of anger. You have to pick on everyone's comments! I think I speak for everyone when I say (Get a Job)!! Cause you obviously have none! You have all this free time on your hands! Why don't you spend this free time helping others instead of puttin them down! You know..WSAZ has job postings...Maybe you could find one on there!!!!I'm not a negative person. Maybe I'm just like everyone else that has a job and three kids and a lot of things to do! I get stressed out, I know that goes way over your head,You don't get stressed. But because you go to church doesn't mean you can't get angry about stuff!!LOL My father-in-law is a Deacon at my church and even he has a temper!! Look out craveontruth! Looks like RoaneCo. has found someone else to pick on!Good Luck!! Have a perfect day ( I know you will)!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Yes Craveontruth, there is a place named Looneyville.(no Jane Doe that isn't where I live) It is on Rt.36, nothing there but the Looneyville Post Office, and I am not joking. There is also a Lefthand Post Office on Rt.36, always wondered why there wasn't a Righthand also. Our County seat is located in Spencer, (middle of nowhere) which for years was only known for its State Mental Institution. (no Jane Doe this isn't my Alma mater) It was closed years ago and now a Wal-Mart is on that location. I guess the only other thing to speak of would be the Black Walnut Festival which is held in Spencer every October.
  • Posted By: bonn, the simpleton: Don't we have a smart earth? She formed herself from a dust cloud, they say and planted herself just the right distance from the sun to support the life she would create. She also filled her insides with molten heat to maintain the right temps and if that builds too much she decides to blow some out holes (volcanoes) to keep from exploding. She makes her own rain, knowing whether she needs a gentle soaking rain for her plants, or a gully washer to cleanse the filth. It pours down the mountains, into the rivers and out into the ocean which she just happened to fill with salt (her natural sanitizer). And she knows if she doesn't have ice she will over heat, but too much and she will freeze, killing her life she so carefully made. So she melts some, then as it heats up, she freezes more. All just coincidental happenings? She is brilliant! But not so smart as the humans who are making a fortune controlling the other dumb humans by convincing them THEY are causing her to do these things!!!
  • Posted By: passing by the yell: I met someone from Looneyville once. It's named that after a person's last name from what I was told.
  • Posted By: Hteik: Well it is nice to see that the war in Iraq is ending under President Obama. Who would have thought, it seems the world is backwards right now, huh? Obama gets elected, the world understands our good will, and all is well. Just like history, Republicans start wars, Democrats finish them. Hate to say we told you so but we told you so, I just get fuzzy inside thinking about all the people that love us now that hated us because of that old Bush. Another thing too, leave this Iran thing alone, that is none of our business. I dont recall anybody from Iran coming over here to help us in 1776 so why should we stick our nose in their business? When you get a strong leader like in Honduras, a good strong leader with a military background, everybody goes nuts because the guy takes things over well I support him and Obama. In fact, some people are so needed we better start now to get rid of the 22nd Amendment, it was only put in by jealous radical extremist crazy Republicans to hurt FDR.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: I don't think I have ever been to Roan County.Nothing against the good people of that neck of the woods.I did enjoy looking it up on wikipedia.Is there really a Looneyville there? If there is then I must visit!Who's with me?
  • Posted By: food for thought: 2-10 years for almost killing a child? Where are our priorities? I know they are nestled in the mountains or wait lying deep in the ocean waiting for anoother person to adopt them and claim rights to the next whale that is proclaimed Shammu or Willy. Get real people lets protest these laws that allow some cook to wanna kill his child and only have to pay his debt of 2 - 10 years. Oh and Kris your right our God won't kill a 1 yr old or a 100 yr old just do to it. He would do it for his glory and maybe take them from being around a half heartened sadistic person that would do this to a child. Oh i love the lights and the A/C and my car, but most of all I love my GOD "Jehovah God" whom i think first and foremost for all I have, then i thank a coal miner and an AEP worker and a so on and so on.
  • Posted By: Kimberly: Raising the WV Toll price? I see a lot of arguments coming from this. Where is all of this money going to? Mansion might be a good governer, but when it comes to things like this, it needs fixed. WV roads are awful and I know after all of these years, surely the toll money has added up to more than enough to fix these roads!!! What an awful awful idea!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Bonn, people like you are the very reason I have stated that I respect ones right of freedom of religion. Although I have different views, I have no issues with anyone going to church and trying to live according to their interpretation of the bible. I think that is wonderful. I also thank you Bonn for being open minded and seeing the point I was trying make. And for Anonymous on Jul 1, 2009 at 03:11 PM, no Craveontruth and I are not the same person. We do agree on some issues, and disagree on others. And when we do disagree (speaking for myself of course) we do it without anger. Also, for Bob... sorry, it isn't working. I have a two year old that comes up with better jabs than you. But I respect your right to try.
  • Posted By: Sophie: Just a few comments on current Yells: Big Earl - I just can't read you anymore because it's the same things over & over. Yeah, we're with you - there are a bunch on weed-o's coming around these days trying to shut us down for the sake of some owl...We get it. We all hate it. Roane Co/Jane -It appears Roane has been very hurt in their lifetime by family conflict involving belief. Many people get hurt because of superstition & misinterpretation and overzealousness. It has been this way since time began. I hope Roane can someday get past the hurt & retoric to work out his/her own salvation. Simple belief in Jesus Christ is where it starts, the rest as I put it, is just "gravy". Jane: I'm sorry your child was hurt. This indeed must be reported. I got hurt @ CP one time too on "The Whip". It beat me so hard against the side I had a major bruise on my hip. I strained my arms trying to keep from slamming into the side. A fun thing was not so fun. No rides for me, anymore. Not there.
  • Posted By: : I think RoaneCo. and Craveontruth is the exact same person? Who's with me?
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello good people of WV this is Big Earl and I for one am sick and tired of all these out of state know it all nosey people bothering us if it is not these smelly hippies trying to run our jobs off or rename the WVU mascot now they are calling the good citizens of WV fat. Well people I am here to tell you that this bunch at the so called CSPI and no you hippies I don’t mean the TV show calling us fat should look in the mirror they look like something off night of the living dead pasty faced scarecrows and beanpoles and what is so great about that. WV has some of the best staple foods anywhere in the world I have eaten paotatoes beans meat flour and corn meal all my life cooked in lard and I am not one bit worse off for it and can mine coal with anybody. People all the good foods we eat are natural growed in the garden or on the farm so it should even make a tofu eating hippie type happy. I am more bothered that two states beat us out in the race for the top so I tip my hat to the people of the great states of Alabama home of the best country music band ever and Mississippi but people of WV get busy we have to reclaim our title to best fed in the USA I recommend the Kentucky Fried Chicken with gravy and biscuits as a good place to start our comeback.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Actually Jane Doe, growing up I did attend church and read the bible. Being subjected to religion for many years I would not consider myself "confused" or uneducated. If one looks at organized religion with an open mind it isn't hard to see who is confused. For example, you have one bible yet there are numerous religious groups ( methodists, baptists etc...) that believe their interpretation is the only correct interpretation. This is understandable because the bible itself is very contradictive. In my opinion the the bible and organized religion is nothing more than a tool created to control the masses. Yet this tool has pitted man against man, brother against brother, state against state and country against country, not to mention the wars, death and destruction it has caused. I have witnessed in my lifetime many family fueds, broken marriages and busted churches at the hands of organized religion. I have heard the words of hate spoken by christians. I am not confused.
  • Posted By: To Fat Earl: You're losing! Ha,Ha!
  • Posted By: Kris: God does not control the weather!If so then he would be responsible for killing hundreds of innocent people every year in America alone! If that's your God, you can have it! My GOD is loving and compassionate. He would never take the life of a one year old nor a hundred year old just because he felt like creating a tornado that day or a hurricane the next. Get a brain and use it simpletons!
  • Posted By: bonn: To Jane Doe: I am afraid RoaneCo's common sense is more attractive than your comments. Read your last post at 8:58 and see if it shows the Light you are suppose to give. We are suppose to control our anger. Yes, we are forgiven, but it is not a license to keep repeating our faults. It is mercy so we can improve. Viciousness does not become a child of God. RoaneCo., may God forgive us for driving you and others away from Him with our failure to shine the Light of Love. And Jane Doe, I am the one you called ignorant just because I was showing compassion (another expectation of a Christian). It is scary about your child. But that person was not attacking your child, nor joking about it, only disapproving of your outburst. Not very attractive in anyone, especially one called to set an example for others to follow. If you must get angry, use it to accomplish something good. Christians are hated enough WITHOUT cause. Love is the answer.
  • Posted By: Bob: I think we might need to contact someone in state govt.about inspecting our amusement parks to many in the public simply dont care if kids get hurt this could have been something really really bad but I guess there is always a few who would crack jokes at anything even a child getting injured.
  • Posted By: cap and trade bill: you wont hear on liberal obama mania news reports whats in the cap and tax bill.only conservate talk radio and conservative news are telling the contents of this country destroying bill.liberal dont want you to be informed,it would be to dangerous for their so called news networks.did you know that,as i somewhat understand it,that every house in the country will have to be at gov.standards before it can be sold,they will be allowed to change therules in mid stream if they want.even if you dont like conservative news,remember only a well informed person can try to stop tyranny.look for facts,have you heard 1 liberal news tell you whats in this bill thats detrimental to this country and freedom.i challenge wsaz to look up whats in this bill and report accuratly whats in it.i dont think thats going to happen.
  • Posted By: food for thought: AMEN Bonn I could never have said it any better, being a Boone county coal miner and all. We do no get a very well reputation anyway.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: RoaneCo.can hurt but often the truth does hurt.I support RoaneCo.To Jane Doe,I believe RoaneCo.does know quite a bit about Christianity and is not confused at all.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: Thank you everyone for your support!!You know RoaneCo. Nobody is perfect, That goes for Christians too! Are we allowed to get mad??Yes! But are we forgiven everyday? Yes!Obviously you don't know much about Christianity! That's why you critize so much!!You're confused!! We are not perfect! I guess you are!!
  • Posted By: VOTE NO ON CAP AND TRADE: I know its a repost but i think its Worthy 'Liberty Or Tyranny?' House Passes Cap-And-Trade Republicans Warn Bill Gives Federal Government 'Virtual Control' Over 'Every Aspect Of The Lives Of The American People. Thank the Dumbocratic controled house as it will raise the average consumers power bill $175.00 This on top of the energy companies already asking for an inctrase will put such a burden on the American people that only the wealthy will survive.Please write or call our Senators they are the only life line we have left and ask them to VOTE NO on cap and trade. Republicans were overwhelmingly against the measure, arguing it would destroy jobs in the midst of a recession while burdening consumers with a new tax in the form of higher energy costs.And there was plenty to work on in a House-passed measure that pointed toward higher electricity bills for the middle class.Budget Office and the other from the Environmental Protection Agency — that suggested average increases would be $175.00 a year.
  • Posted By: cap and trade survey: against cap and tax,85percent.people who work and are productive.15percent for cap and tax,,,people who work for government or live off the fat of the land and dont mind other people being taxed into poverty....
  • Posted By: : If new drivers would slow down and actually pay attention to what they are doing, then maybe WV would'nt have these new laws for teenage drivers. Personally myself I believe that all states should have this law. It would make the roads a little safer to drive on.
  • Posted By: bonn: About global warming- our temperature is (and always has been) constantly changing. GOD controls it. Anyone who thinks we can are puffing themselves up bigger than we are.Are we suppose to believe we are responsible for the Ice Age thawing that is suppose to have happened way back when as well? How did that happen? Certainly not carbon emissions. Use some common sense and realize people are using this to line their pockets and gain support for their pet projects. I know- you don't want to hear this, but it is not realistic. Don't let America be controlled with this, PLEASE!! Let us remain free!
  • Posted By: Bob: Dont worry Jane Doe I have notice RoaneCOs posts are generally always on the rude side I am sorry to hear about your daughter.
  • Posted By: Just wondering: the 3 people that was killed on alt rt 10. 2 being st. joe's students. Did they ever release the cause of the accident?
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: I do care about the safety of our children Anonymous on Jun 30, 2009 at 09:01 AM, no matter where they are or what they are doing. Our children are our future. What I don't care for is someone like Jane Doe on here week after week preaching her little sermons all the while calling people ignorant and showing her hostility toward others. It has always amazed me how most christians will belittle someone else but the minute you catch them being unchristian like they always come up with the old "we christians ain't perfect". Well I know they are not, but by golly they are the first to judge everyone else. These hyporcitical self proclaimed christians are one of the reasons I turned away from organized religion years ago. I just don't agree with these people shoving religion on everyone else. I respect Jane Does right to religion and I would even fight for her to keep that right, but she, like so many others need to keep their religion in their church and their home.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Well hello again good working coal mining families in WV this is Big Earl and I for one am very disappointed that this cap and trade bill got passed into law the other day no thanks to our good representatives from WV. People all I can say is get a woodpile and a bunch of cow chips because your electric is going to get real expensive real quick. These hippies has run up to Washington DC and boo hooed to them tree huggers and longhairs in the EPA until they got even worse done to our jobs but then again what do you expect from a bunch that has a leaf from a dope plant on there sign like the EPA does if you don’t believe me look on this very website I seen a picture of it. Birds of a feather flock together that’s why the good working people were kept out and not allowed to talk at that hearing and the hippies let in. People these hippies has slandered our great state and coal miners first they bring in professor moonbeam from NASA to insult us then he tucks his tail and runs back to NASA and wont debate Mr. DB then they attack our state university mascot the WV mountaineer. Well people I Big Earl have a solution to this lets call WV the “Ivory Soap State,” make our mascot a bathtub that’s a sure fire way to get rid of these smelly hippies and longhairs and keep them out forever.
  • Posted By: ME: We christians are most always judged by our actions and that is to be expected since we are not perfect in any way. We all make mistakes every day,we get angry,we say things we shouldn't and act out our frustrations sometimes to those closest to us and our friends. We try to do better and ask forgiveness when we do stumble from our christian path. Actions speak louder than words at times, good or bad. Yes we adults act like children at times and children try to act like adults all too soon. We never know who we are influenceing with our actions and words so we need to always try to act,say and do what is right. As long as we are on this earth we will stumble but we should strive to be the best we can be and treat people with love and respect no matter how we are treated. I have turned the cheek many times and been slapped alot and will keep on doing it as long as I breath. My time will come soon enough to be judged as to the way I have lived and treated people.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: I love people on the Yell!!! They give me a chance to laugh everyday. Thanks guys!!
  • Posted By: just looking: UMMMM do you people think that christians are perfect??? Do you think we dont get angry?? Only one person is perfect and that is Jesus Christ...And if a christian says they are perfect, then they arnt a very good christian. We all have faults. Alot of you people cant wait to get up and look at the faults of others and criticize what they believe in....
  • Posted By: Patriot1: Tea Party. There will be a "Tea Party" July 4th from 4:00-6:30 PM at the City Park in Grayson,Ky
  • Posted By: Donna: Please! enough of Michael Jackson. He died, now he will appear before God and face his punishment for his sins against children. He was a morally bankrupt person who the media has presented as an icon. It's no wonder children are so messed up today,too much TV and not enough parenting. You too, are responsible for making him appear as a person to be looked up to. He and others in entertainment and sports are not what the children need, they need moral examples to look up to, please stop the glorification of immoral and indecent individuals.
  • Posted By: food for thought: To those of you telling me to watch out for Fox news, please go back and read carefully what I said about the media and the government. I thank each of you for your information. I am not out to attack anyone whether acclaimed or the average joe. I just know what I have read from reports and from different sites. This information is what our scientists, meteorologists and so forth use in reference to report the records of weather and temperatures. Again thank each of you, and at last Fox news was the channel the fine people at our local (American made) dealership had channeled on the tube, personally I just watch WSAZ, at the local level.
  • Posted By: : Roane Co., why are you not concerned about the safety of small children at amusement parks?
  • Posted By: Htiek: Right on Kris you tell em about Fox News. Everyone that watches knows that the dependable networks are ABF, Anyone But Fox. I am just like everyone else in the know, they lie all the time but please dont press me to cite anything specific as I am having coffee right now. I am new to your side, so pardon me if I get something confused. Those photographs of the ice caps are proof positive as far as I am concerned, these flat earth types that dont believe global warming should compare them to the satellite picutres from the colonial period and over the years since for comparison purposes. I once heard the hottest year on record was in the 1930s but what does that prove. And before one of you know it alls talks about Al Gore riding everywhere in a private plane and having such a huge house and running a company that profits from selling carbon credits, some people in life earn their special privileges simply by showing up and enlightening the rest of us, so there.
  • Posted By: polar ice caps: the weather is always changing.sometime it freezes sometimes it melts,thats gods doings,not mans.wasnt it the great mind of ted danson many years ago that explaind that in 15 or 20 years that the oceans were going to raise so many feet that it would destroy and overflo inward to apolipicate level.i guess the people that live on these coast lines dont know they are under water.we americans are so silly.let me explain what a great creator said,it rains but the oceans are never full.ice melts but the oceans never overflo.i think i,ll believe him instead of a.gore or ted danzen.p.b.s last week on a travel show,,i think,,,,the guide said the glacier there had been melting 150years.that was certainly before the industrial revolution.as for fox,world net daily,newsmax,etc.the liberal press has lost it monolopy on liberal so called news.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: After you finish showing your true colors, go back and read my post again Jane Doe. Better yet let me cut and paste it for you. "I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are." And just for the record, I would never "make fun" of a child, but don't think for one second that I won't point out an adult being hypocritical. Are you not the same Jane Doe that three weeks ago was preaching about God, then in the same breath calling someone "IGNORANT"? So let me say it one more time, I hope your little girl is ok. As for you, thank you for proving once again how kind, loving, patient and understanding some of you fine christians can be.
  • Posted By: Kris: This respectfully goes out to "food for thought" for what they said about fox news and global warming.FOX has great movies and tv shows but their view when it comes to the "news" is so far on the "right" way of thinking that it totally obscures reality in their opions of the subject at hand. They'll twist their views to make sure that it is opposite of "liberals" or people on the "left" and how they feel about the subject.Asf or global warming, we have actual time lapsed pictures of the polar caps melting at an alarming rate. You can actually see it happening. If things are cooling down, then why are the polar caps and icebergs melting at an alarming rate? The evidence is right in front of our faces. I sure do hope you're right because if I am, our planet is doomed. Sincerely, Kris
  • Posted By: Jethro: WHATS WRONG WITH YOU ALL UPDATE THE YELL!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!
  • Posted By: Keith: Never thought I'd sit around and miss Bush...well the wrecking ball has appointed a racist to the supreme court, one that is inept and incompetent too. Did you notice her latest ruling was overturned today? The economy is not getting better, those of you out of work have my sympathy because this clown is not doing anything to make it better. He never held a real job, never ran a business, just a rabble rouser and agitator. How do you feel about cap and trade energy tax? All over a phony problem that doesnt even exist; WV will wither away to nothing but hey we can all get jobs in the windmill factory, cant we? How do you feel about having your health benefits taxed to pay for Obamacare? How's the hope and change working out for everyone? What do you think card check is going to do the economy? Check out an article about Obama the African Colonialist on the American Thinker Website, dated June 25th. It explains him to a "T." Obama is a wrecking ball, and he's gonna roll over everyone.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Well hello again good working coal miners of WV this is Big Earl and people I have come to the conclusion that we need some friends in Washington DC that has got some clout. Some people up there has got big names but nobody apparently listens to, that is if they show up at all in court to help you out, those who are sick are excepted. Then there are some people in Charleston who should be in Washington who shall remain unnamed because nobody in Gov. Joes office asked me to say that. But remember who had that bunch from FEMA down here handing out checks before two weeks after the flood water hit and figure out who has clout. You people that went up for the hearing last week should be thanked but the good people never got to say a word but these hippies did, they are apparently now running around the creek with microscopes looking for fish that cant be seen with the eye, something called a microbe, now they are blaming the coal miner for killing off this worthless animal and I sincerely hope Captain D or old Long John will never put some slop like that on my plate when I want good seafood. If you dont see it it cant be of no good use anyway, sort of like a certain US senator with a big rich name who was nowhere to be seen last week.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To RoaneCo. How dare you critize my comment. This isn't just some fun arguement!! My child is hurt! Do you think that's funny? Do me a favor, Next time I write about my kids, Don't comment! I hope you don't have any kids because you don't see the harm and worry in my comment, You just want to fight and make fun of someone!! This is really serious!! I don't see the humor!!!
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Did any of you people see those PETA nuts on the TV 3 news last night boo hooing about having to tie there dogs up hello again working people of WV this is Big Earl and I don’t know about you but I always thought it was rude and inconsiderate and just being a bad neighbor to let your dogs run wild all over the neighborhood digging up peoples backyards rooting around in garbage cans and doing there business all over the place. Have any of you people in Huntington ever lost a chicken to a wild dog. Even these back to nature types and hippies up here in Boone County tie up there dog to guard there dope patches but they don’t have no sense anyway if they aint going to Washington DC to try and rook us out of our jobs by carrying signs and yelling about some invisible fish that is no good to anybody they are screaming about the coal miner killing polar bears and other animals that don’t even live here. Apparently this bunch had the bright idea to go down to the park on Sunday down in Huntington when people was out with there families trying to walk around and enjoy things and they chained themselves to trees with real dog chains trying to get people to sign a protest petition to of all people a mayor named Wolf now I don’t know about you but that mayor better forget the beware of dog sign he needs to put a beware of the PETA nut sign up in that park.
  • Posted By: The Seeker: @food for thought: It is indeed important to check facts, and it heartens me to see that you're of the type that actively seeks them (even thought I fall on the side of the debate that believes in climate change, as it has solid science behind it). However, I caution you on taking anything from FOX news at face value. This is an organization that in 2000 won a case in Florida appeals court in which the court ruled that FOX has no obligation to tell the truth to it's viewers, and can misinform the public under the first amendment. This is also an organization that has been proven to have an agenda, and frames every bit of it's coverage to favor one political party over the other. My advice is to seek out less obviously biased news sources, especially in cases such as global warming, which is an issue that transcends political parties and affects every being on the planet.
  • Posted By: Hugh: Hey WVa. Checkin out the YELL. Kind of quiet today. Enjoyed my visit there. Met John Henry at the Big Ben Tunnel,saw the big bridge. Stood at Hawk's Nest and viewed the scenery. If I wasn't so old and crippled, I'd bungee jump from the New River Gorge Bridge. Have folks who live in the Talcott area and some around Hinton. Well won't take much of your time today. Just wanted to check in.
  • Posted By: what is foor for thought?: foor?? for thought, you do know Bush made those he commissioned to study it alter their reports when he found out it supported global warming, don't you? Anyone who just sees pictures of the ice caps 30 years ago and now would have to be mentally handicapped not to know there's global warming, the only thing that's possible to debate is the cause of it. Wonder why Fox didn't mention the Bush fiasco? Well I don't really wonder.
  • Posted By: more p.c at wsaz: gays in usa sounds like it was written by a gay person,so it was printed.it was,nt written by a gay person.it was a second thought,after i commented on other sins,such as adultry,but plainly written by a heterosexual person.it was not printed because im straight and not gay.so goes our country and freedom.
  • Posted By: Lou Ann: Ive had a similar bad experience at camden park several years ago. Havent went back since. The pricing is just another deterrent to doing business locally. I love this area but am very discouraged by the lack of pride in our appearance in several of our towns, the prices of doing business, the attitude towards the customer , the lack of merchandise. I could go on. We definately are not tourist friendly in the great ohio valley area.
  • Posted By: foor for thought: Looks like my comment on June 24th may be right. I have done some reading about this Global warming fad the government is putting on. I was sitting in a local car dealership and FOX news was reporting on the government sitting or "burying" studies by two of the highest ranking EPA officials contradicting this myth. Some of the comments from their studies proves the Global temperature if anything has decreased. Although, you should be skeptical about anything the media reports especially when it involves the government these are facts that have been recorded over time. I ask how come when these bozos as Dr. Hansen whom is from NASA(which has done innumerable amounts of damage to our air with their testing) never mention facts as these when trying to prove things they are claiming is a fact. People we in America have became lazy in seeking the truth, I am not disputing anything these scientists and the government tells us, but as we learned in elementary school check facts of both sides.
  • Posted By: gays in u.s.a.: another reflection on gays.if you think god doesn,t care about you because you,re gay ,he must love you more than you can comprehend,if not you could have been born ina muslim country.islam has no homosexuals ,they are not rehabilitate,just beheaded.as a loving and compassionate god says"GO AND SIN NO MORE".that doesnt mean just you it means all of us.yes god allows you to choose,he must really care.
  • Posted By: City of Milton: I'm glad that the City of Milton has so much money to spend and that they spend it wisely. Every time I drive through town on a nice day it never fails that someone is washing their personal vehicle at the VFD. Good to see that they budget personal car washes into the city budget. I think I'll stop in there today and see if I can wash my car as well...should be a nice day!
  • Posted By: Valorie: About four weeks ago, I sent a letter to Camden Park with a friendly suggestion to open the park to the casual visitor again. As of today, I still haven't had a response from them. There used to be a small fee for admission to anyone who just wanted to visit. Once inside the park, a visitor could buy a corn dog or pay to play a few games or ride a few rides. Now people have to pay a full admission price for all day rides, even when they don't plan to stay all day. A lot of people are grandparents who just want to watch their grandchildren ride for an hour or two. Some are young parents with small children who tire easily. As empty nesters, my husband and I would like to drop by to get a bite to eat, play some games or just walk around. Everyone I have spoken to said they would visit Camden Park a whole lot more if they didn't have to pay the full admission price. I challenge everyone to contact Camden Park and ask them to give the people a choice!
  • Posted By: to gay question: god is not a cruel and unfair god.we all have our faults.is homosuxality a bigger sin than adultry,pornography,lying,stealing, and the list goes on.the clue to these behaviors is wanting to make our lives better.we cant blame anyone but ourselves for what we do.if anyone doesnt change its what they want to do.but as long as it doesnt affect me thats between you and god.but it is wrong,just as cheating on your spouse is sin.would we tell the adulterer that its not sin and not to try being a better person,i think not.celibacy would be better than the same old behavior.these have been struggle since creation.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Losing your religion Jane Doe? What happened to "turn the other cheek"? I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are. But next time you read of someone else being "furious" or commenting on their personal issues, maybe you should keep your bible quotes to yourself.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: I recently went with my church and my family to Camden Park this past weekend. Me and my 6 year old daughter rode the Spider, We thought it was going to be lots of fun, we were wrong! It was a nightmare! It went on for 10 minutes and was going way too fast! My daughter was terrified and was screaming! I was furious when the man that helped us off asked if she was okay and I said what do you think and he laughed!! I have rode this ride for many years and loved it, But this time I could tell it was different! But then it gets worse, A friend of mine that stayed at the park longer than us informed me that after we left, The spider closed down and said they had crossed wires and the ride was malfunctioning!!! My daughter can't hardly walk today and has a four inch bruise down her back! I'm taking her to the doctor in the morning. If there is something seriously wrong, I will be speaking to the owner and this situation will be takin care of!!!!!
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