UPDATE: Sheriff: 4-Year-Old Shoots Teen Babysitter for Stepping on Foot
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Posted: 11:43 AM Jan 5, 2009
 Last Updated: 7:59 PM Jan 6, 2009
 Reporter: Randy Yohe
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Update at 6 p.m. Tuesday
JACKSON, Ohio (WSAZ) -- A child's game of cops and robbers took a tragic twist, according to the father of a 4-year-old boy who shot his babysitter with a shotgun.

William Crisp is fighting to keep his son from state custody while a prosecutor decides on possible criminal charges.

Crisp and Jackson County Sheriff's deputies agree that the single buckshot blast from the old 20-gauge shotgun could have been much worse. The 17-year-old male babysitter sustained an arm wound during the incident.

"He's fine," Crisp said. "His arm will be fine. He's not pressing charges."

Jackson County Chief Sheriff's Deputy Jim Ephlin said, "He's lucky. "If it was a deer slug, he could have been severely injured or killed."

The babysitter and another teen were watching three younger children Sunday night at a rural mobile home just outside of Jackson. That's when all agree that the babysitter accidentally stepped on the 4-year-old boy's foot, and he responded.

"They didn't know he was going to grab a real gun," Crisp said. "It shocked everybody."

Crisp is terrified that Children's Services will take his son away for what he insists was a freak accident.

Crisp said his son picked up the shotgun shell from a living room drawer and got the gun from a rear closet. He said the babysitter assumed the little boy was going for one of his many toy guns.

"He did not intend to hurt or kill him," Crisp said.

Jackson County Prosecutor Jonathan Blanton said he can't imagine filing assault charges against a 4-year-old child.

"There's no place to put a 4 year old, but we may file charges against the adults," he said.

But Crisp said he's not guilty of child endangerment.

"I"ve taught my son to respect guns," he said. "It was a pure accident."

Crisp said Children's Services insists that his son get counseling. He said the agency also is ordering him to get any gun -- real or toy -- along with any saw, hammer, nails -- anything active -- out of the home for good.

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JACKSON, Ohio (WSAZ) -- Deputies say a bizarre shooting Sunday night involved a 4-year-old wielding a shotgun.

The Jackson County, Ohio, Sheriff says some teenagers were babysitting some younger children in a mobile home just outside Jackson.

The police report says a 4-year-old got angry after 18-year-old Nathan Beavers stepped on his foot.

The reports say the boy then went into a back room, loaded a shell in a 20-gauge shotgun, came out and shot Beavers in the arm. The babysitter was hospitalized, but the injury was not life-threatening.

Another teen was also hit with shotgun pellets.

The sheriff says possible violations include aggravated assault against the 4-year-old, and child endangerment against the babysitting victim. Right now, the sheriff is not sure yet if anyone will be charged.

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Posted by: crystal on May 2, 2009 at 12:20 PM
My first question when i read this was Why in the heck does a 4 year old know where the gun and amo are kept UNLOCKED, and second, Why does this 4 year old know how to load and fire it? Smart parenting.....
Posted by: nicolle on Mar 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM
The father should also be charged!!! How on earth does a 4 yo. get a hold of a shotgun soo easily...anyways? Where's the responsibility come in for the father of the 4 yo.?
Posted by: stna on Jan 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM
heres the thing all of us teens are suffering and to let u all no u need to look at how many kids u here about shooting guns me and my boyfriend are truely sorry about what went on and what we said is the true wen u didnt see u really cant judge us
Posted by: Vince on Jan 15, 2009 at 08:05 PM
How is this an accident? The child found the gun, the ammunition,, then LOADED it before shooting the sitter. Teaching him to respect guns, and he doesn't keep his SECURED and away from children? The very fact that this guy still has his son is a travesty. Children act on what they're taught. The authorities need to -seriously- take a very long, very intense look at this case.
Posted by: melissa king on Jan 12, 2009 at 11:43 PM
TO CANDY:im soo glad someone told the REAL story. yes they were teasing the child about a old man .saying the child was his girlfriend had him crying and then played a game where they stomped one anothers feet. of course the older boys hurt him! the dad knew how they were to him, he doesnt even have custody of the child!
Posted by: odd on Jan 12, 2009 at 01:30 PM
Am I the only one who finds this story odd?I don't see how a 4 year old could have done this.If he did where is the bruises from shooting the gun?Something dont add up.
Posted by: mad as heck on Jan 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM
wow i can not believe it got posted i am hoping the little boy gets the help he needs but some one else needs to step in cause if you leave it up to the dad the little boy will not get him the help he needs i thought the grandma has guardian of the litte boy well if she does why is the father involved i am just curious is there littler kids around if so god keep your eye on them dont let the dad teach them anything....where is the mom well i hope and i pray for the little boy
Posted by: Devastator MBT on Jan 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM
To the smart mouth who wisecracked about the NRA here, the focus should on helping this child to live better; not some agenda.
Posted by: mad as heck on Jan 10, 2009 at 04:11 PM
i have left alot of comments on here and they have none been posted and why i dont know i just told the truth on here just like everyone else has the father is a piece of crap he does not need to be called daddy the kid does not need to be raised by that animal lets c if this gets posted
Posted by: Amazed on Jan 9, 2009 at 08:27 PM
Are the Children Service Workers afraid the child might go off again and nail them up in a wooden box or something? They're crazy... Get the child into counseling and the father into a child safety class... and find out what the babysitter was doing ... because it apparently wasn't babysitting.
Posted by: what a joke. on Jan 9, 2009 at 01:54 PM
this gun was not fired by a 4 year old. guns have a kick back. why didn't this kid have any bruises or whatever? he most certainly should have.
Posted by: 1,2,3 its Just Me!?!?! on Jan 9, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Here's my opinion...1. The gun should have been at the very least UP and out of the reach of the child! 2. The father in this situation must be doing something right (if it happened as told) or else he would have been a target because you know DAD has made the 4 year old mad and he hasn't been shot! 3. The 'babysitter' was not watching the kid if he got a shotgun shell out of the living room right in front of a room full of people then loaded it into a gun and shot it! 4. If I had to guess I would imagine drugs were involved here! 5. To the sheriff for even considering trying to charge a 4 year old get a life! 6. To Children Services expecting this young man to get rid of saws, hammers, nails, and whatever else you said, open your mouth and insert foot! 7. To you heartless people saying this kid needs jerked out of his home and placed in foster care please stomp your keyboard and sell you computer for scrap! ** Guns and 4 year olds don't mix well kinda like pouring gas on a fire BOOM!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 8, 2009 at 09:49 PM
dont hit kids..seriously, they have guns now!
Posted by: Me on Jan 8, 2009 at 01:01 PM
If the babysitter was supposed to be babysitting, where was he at when the little boy went into another room long enough to load a gun?
Posted by: Just wondering on Jan 8, 2009 at 12:42 PM
where are the NRA nuts on this board? They're always on here spewing how everyone should be armed, obviously a long way from the truth.
Posted by: Heather on Jan 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Well hopefully CPS will do their jobs in Ohio (unlike West Virginia) and pull the kid (and other children if there are) out of the house.
Posted by: ann on Jan 8, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I believe the child ment to do what he did, he should get counseling for a long time,he has anger issues,take all the stuff out that childrens services said to and make sure it is locked away from the child,next time choose better sitters,
Posted by: OH WOW on Jan 8, 2009 at 10:00 AM
I believe they need to question the teenagers I dont believe the little 4 year old could have done this cause if he has he would be really buises up I believe the teenagers done it and now blaming the little boy to keep their self out of trouble double check everything and really do your job the cops just dont check things out very good I know how a 20 gauge kick so I just dont believe a little 4 year old could have done it.
Posted by: Kim on Jan 8, 2009 at 09:47 AM
Why did that child have easy access to a shotgun!? Why was it not locked up? Why was the gun loaded!!!! I have a shotgun and it is locked away with the key nowhere for my son to find. Next, why wasn't the babysitter watching this child closer? Does anyone else think it's odd for a child to react this way to someone stepping on his foot?? It's a very extreme reaction, agreed? The child, along with his parents need to be mentally evaluated. Who doesn't teach their child to 1)never touch guns without adult supervision 2)never play with guns 3)never point a gun at someone 4)Respect/mannerisms. I still can't get over how this child reacted to getting his foot stepped on. Even if this child is mentally disabled, one should extra effort into teaching the rights and wrongs of situations. Parents are completely responsible for the actions of this child. I can only imagine what this child will grow up to be like with the little guidance that he is given now.
Posted by: Brett on Jan 8, 2009 at 09:29 AM
So is the child going to be punished by the parents or not? Maybe they could take away his toy guns for starters. I just hope the child learns something from this.
Posted by: Mike on Jan 8, 2009 at 08:58 AM
How about some anger management for the kid? Getting your foot stepped on and then try to shoot them, sounds like he's got a little devil inside.
Posted by: Geeez! on Jan 7, 2009 at 09:59 PM
So this is teaching the child that it is ok to shoot someone...The parents need to wake up-next time it may be them getting shot. I would hate to see what kind of person he grows up to be!
Posted by: taco on Jan 7, 2009 at 09:22 PM
This is a prime example of why some people shouldn't have children or guns. So sad.
Posted by: Amazed? on Jan 7, 2009 at 07:13 PM
The child should be taken into custody due to the unsuitable living conditions. The house is filthy. I would not let a dog live in that house.
Posted by: mamawof6kids on Jan 7, 2009 at 06:56 PM
If everything in this story is exactly as reported, there are several issues that need to be addressed. This was definitely child endangerment. The father should have been ordered to remove all weapons from the home. And that includes the bow also in the same closet as the shotgun. Childen watch, thats how they learn. How can the father say he taught his son respect for guns if he doesn't respect them himself. How can he if he handles a gun the way he does. Also the child has an anger issue and this needs to be addressed. Where were the parents this night and why were three childen left with these teenage boys. This just doesn't sound like the whole story to me. The father definitely needs to take responsibilty for his and his son's actions. This was no accident.
Posted by: john on Jan 7, 2009 at 06:52 PM
stupid,stupid and more stupid. the cps,some people's comments and the parents for not locking up the gun in a safe place. this was an unfortunate event that could've been prevented by the parents,the so called baby sitter and any other older person present at the time. wanting the cps to come in and take the child is ridiculous. taking hammers and nails,saws and other tools away for good is totally ludicrous. what do you do when repairs are needed call cps to do it,not hardly,they are only interested in the bonus money they get for taking a child away from parents and putting them with other people that are only interested in the foster parent money they get. attempted murder charges? please!!!!!!!!!!!! i do hope a valueable lesson was learned though.
Posted by: Chris on Jan 7, 2009 at 06:31 PM
The baby sitter should have been watching the child closer the parents was not home! How can he be responsible when he was gone! And as far as kids and guns I think it is a child by child decision some kids develop faster than others and might be able to hunt and know about guns at 4 as my son was. However some kids couldn't be trusted with a cap gun at the age 15! THE BABYSITTER SHOULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE CHILD.
Posted by: Chris on Jan 7, 2009 at 05:31 PM
I was lucky to grow up with guns all my life and had a responsible father that taught me alot.Times have changed alot since then.Being a dad now,I still have alot of interest in guns but I have noticed that my son gets mad,he gets his toy guns and and acts like he wants to shoot me.I immediately put a stop to this. If kids think that they can use a toy gun to get revenge,what will keep them from getting the real thing. My son has several disabilitys that changes his situation,but I refuse to allow the real guns to be around him.During the summer, I will allow him to shoot a bb gun as long as I am in direct contact with him and able to teach him the proper safety, But when he starts showing his aggresion ,the gun is put up for along time till he shows responsibility.Please don't let kids use even toy guns when the show any type of aggresion.
Posted by: ohio on Jan 7, 2009 at 05:15 PM
i will agree with a few of u all when the dad was on tv he acted like nothing has happened and the lil boy was smiling does this kid live with the grandma well where was she when they interviewed the kid was she that embarased to been seen on national tv well she probaly would of done better than dad he showed no remorse maybe she doesnt either this kid needs more than therapy he needs a good ole fashion whoopin but no dad thinks it is ok my son was just protecting himself no way that is not how it goes does he have brother or sisters littler than him i hope not this is so sad that they think this is ok and smiling there is nothing to smile about get a grip on your child dad says a freak accident no it wasnt dad should never taught the kid to load a gun in fact i dont believe he loaded it and if the sheriff dept does there job they will find out the truth do some investagating jackson co.dont let it go that easy take control
Posted by: oh my on Jan 7, 2009 at 05:00 PM
My husband and I, as well as most of our family members are avid outdoorsmen and women. My four kids have been raised around guns, just as we were. Proper respect and learning has always been taught. All guns are out of reach and out of touch. All are stored in the attic where no one can reach. My neace came over one day after we had just come home from hunting. We hadn't been home long enough to put them away. She is never allowed to see guns or be near them. She kept asking what the gun was to my five year old. He explained to her that it was a real gun and she wasn't allowed to touch it and he immediately came to get me. At that point I put the guns away. I sat down and explained to my child he did exactly what he was supposed to do. His response was "duh" it isn't a toy and she could get killed. My boys don't even point toy guns at people. Not even my three year old. Educate your kid. Don't hide them from it. Obviously this kid wasn't educated about safety.
Posted by: You People on Jan 7, 2009 at 03:24 PM
The father needs to be punished as well as the child. To the people that let your children play with guns, you need serious help!!! Don't be sad when they grow and become murderers!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Amy on Jan 7, 2009 at 03:15 PM
If you had really taught your son to have respect for guns and what they can do, he would have NEVER went after it. Admit that you taught him how to load and shoot a weapon but you never taught him not to do so in anger or with malicious intent. Just admit you're an idiot and have no clue how to teach children to be around guns, then go take a class on how to be a parent.
Posted by: Stay at Home Mommy on Jan 7, 2009 at 02:11 PM
When I heard this story on the news last it scared me to death! First of all I am a mother of a 3 year old son, who often target shoots with my husband and I. He has several guns of his own. We have always tought him gun safty. What I want to know is why this shotgun and shells were not locked up? I am a firm beliver that we have the right to bear arms but when you neglect to do so in a safe manner I think that right should be took away. Its things like this that will take this right away from all of us. Shame on this boys parents!
Posted by: Theory on Jan 7, 2009 at 02:02 PM
After much thought about this...I had a revelation...I believe this was done so the "victim" can collect the money from the state when there is a victim of "violence"....I do believe I have figured it out......I'll bet this had been discussed and the victim was the only one brave (haha) enough to be the one to get shot..they were all going to split the money....man I should have been on CSI
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 7, 2009 at 01:39 PM
I cannot believe some of the comments I am reading. The father is making excuses; the child is smiling. This is not FUNNY, and the fact that the father is calling this an "accident", indicates to me that he is not ready to raise a child. If you believe some of the comments and the sitter deliberately hurt the child, then there is an additional issue of the parent not having a responsible person looking after his child, not to mention teaching (or showing) a child to react with violence. First, the father should look up the meaning of accident; if he can spell it, and can read, he will see that in no way was this act an accident. I'm sure if he gets angrey and hits his wife, that's an "accident" also. If a child will do something like this at age 4, what will he do when he gets angry as a teenager? The parents should be responsible for this, and, the child needs help. This is a good example of why there should be gun control. This is why we have children killing children.
Posted by: scott jenkins on Jan 7, 2009 at 01:35 PM
im sorry but i just dont see a 4 year old loading a sigle shot shot gun by his self and being able to shoot someone i say no way this story is of the truth my 9 year old cant even load a gun and shoot it let alone a 4 year old sorry but i say one of the teens are to blame not the child or the parents
Posted by: Jim J on Jan 7, 2009 at 01:07 PM
Oh come on people, locking up anyone or charging anyone will solve nothing. Send them all to a gun safety course and demand thae guns be locked in a safe or trigger locked and have child safety services follow up every 2 months. I am sure no one intended this to happen and breaking up a family will cure nothing!! Enough of that out there already!!
Posted by: Sue on Jan 7, 2009 at 12:47 PM
I'm sure the babysitters don't want to press charges because then when the story comes out they will be charged with endangering or neglect of a minor for hurting him by smashing his foot and teasing him
Posted by: dave on Jan 7, 2009 at 12:06 PM
A 4 year-old child with a really dangerous weapon...Fantastic! Sounds like the child has an amazing enviroment in which to grow and learn. Seriously, however, CPS really needs to step in and take control of the situation-since obviously the parents do not know what they're doing when it comes to the children that have been entrusted to them. It scares me...
Posted by: Bill on Jan 7, 2009 at 11:54 AM
There is no permit required for a shotgun.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 7, 2009 at 11:35 AM
explain to me how a 4 yr old child knows how to open a shotgun, load the shell into it correctly, be able to close the gun back, and how to aim to shoot someone. he shouldnt even know where the gun or shells are. i'm sorry, the blame lies on the parents. a 4 year old should not have THAT MUCH knowledge of a shotgun. he should only know that it is a dangerous weapon, and not a toy.
Posted by: Jessica on Jan 7, 2009 at 11:12 AM
My son is two and owns two guns...granted, he doesn't know how to load or shoot them, but, he will by the age of 4...there is nothing wrong with that...he knows Daddy and Mommy shoot deer to put food on the table, and he knows he will one day too. That is exciting for him. The ammo and gun should have been locked, yes...that is the parent's fault. However, you can't blame them for the child's actions completely...look at what is offered for children to watch on TV or play in video games. He could have picked that up from there!! All behaviors are learned, whether it thru parents, siblings, neighbors, TV, video games, etc. I do think that someone should look more closely at what the 18 year old was doing to this child though, it is strange, regardless of the fact the gun and ammo was readily available, that hte child automatically went for a gun for "accidentally stepping on his foot." I think something more is going on here...
Posted by: look again on Jan 7, 2009 at 10:53 AM
if the baby's foot was blue then he should be checked to see if he has any other bruises. I know the babysitter did it, but if I was the dad and that was true, I would be mad and file charges against him. Where is the mother?
Posted by: postalworker on Jan 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I can't believe what some of the people write in these comments. Not everybody knows the full story that comments, but feels like they should put their two cents in anyways. We should just pray for the people involved and pray for this country. If we don't put God back in this country, we are in more trouble than you could imagine.
Posted by: Mandy on Jan 7, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I think that the parents should be charged with endangerment because the kid shouldn't have had a chance to use the gun it should have been locked up.
Posted by: Jim on Jan 7, 2009 at 09:46 AM
First of all, Randy, this was not buckshot. The deputy makes that clear in his statement; it is birdshot which is much smaller than buckshot and that is evident by the size of the holes in the cabinet and refrigerator. Also, this particular single shot shotgun appears to be a youth model which is shorter and lighter than a full size model. My little brother had one just like it many years ago and they still make them. To those of you who think it impossible for a four year old to have done this, apparently you are not aware of how determined and resourcful a child of this age can be. To the father of this boy, son this was no accident. Your son intentionally got the shotshell from the desk and the gun from the closet and pointed the weapon as best he could and then pulled the trigger. You have some work to do as a father. It is your responsibility to teach him that such an action is very wrong. You might want to consider what you have been letting him watch on t.v. or video games.
Posted by: AJ on Jan 7, 2009 at 09:34 AM
A 4 yr old child should have no knowledge on how to load any kind of weapon. i dont believe the child should really be punished after all he is only 4 but the parents should definately be charged due to the fact that they have evidently shown this child how to behave this way, why in the world would a child that young know so much about shooting a person. i think that is what law enforcement should be asking.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 7, 2009 at 08:40 AM
I think that everybody should just leave them alone because i think that a four year old might be able to do it...it just depends on the kid...and his dad should not have taught him to load and shot a gun!
Posted by: concerned on Jan 7, 2009 at 08:24 AM
the parents and child all need re-educated apparently and also, this child needs to be taught how to handle anger or else this will be the next child to show up at school, mad at someone, and shoot them as well.... situations like this need to be handled, not blown off...
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 7, 2009 at 08:19 AM
But Crisp said he's not guilty of child endangerment. "I"ve taught my son to respect guns," he said. "It was a pure accident." ^ ^^^^ apparently not Crisp because if you had, this wouldnt have happened and you wouldnt be where you are now.... also, kids are lil mirror images of their parents whether we like it or not.. so maybe you should show your *respect* for guns by locking the things up, dont you think? GEEEZ!
Posted by: a mommy on Jan 7, 2009 at 08:12 AM
OMG, i think that something should be done.. as a parent, they are responsible. this child is 4, why was a gun in his reach? why wasnt the gun locked up? this is pitiful and couldve been prevented and couldve been so much worse.... and the parents are taking this so lightly, if their are guns accessible to a 4 yr old in that home, it is not a safe place for a 4 yr old to be... this is where people fall short with raising children...people should take raising kids a little more serious.. for one, dont leave your kids with someone who taunts your kids and makes them angry enough to do this, 2, teach your children the seriousness of guns, 3, teach them responsibilities for their actions, 4 the parents should keep guns out of reach to show a child their own respect for weapons. i just think this whole situation is pitiful all the way to the parents thinking this is ok.. sad, sad world were living in..
Posted by: Bob on Jan 7, 2009 at 08:08 AM
I think it is funny that we dont want kids to learn to use guns but we do want our 18 year olds to go kill people in other countries to protect us.
Posted by: Larry on Jan 7, 2009 at 08:07 AM
"proper permit to own his gun". It was a single shot 20 gauge squirrel gun. Even the Messiah would not ban that gun...
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 7, 2009 at 07:53 AM
did you notice the bow in the closet on the news last night! lets leave that one unlocked too!
Posted by: Anon. on Jan 7, 2009 at 07:47 AM
Everyone keeps saying "Where are bruises from the gun kick?" I doubt this kid had the stock against his shoulder. I'd venture to say that a 20 gauge is too long for a 4 year old to properly hold. However, don't doubt the intelligence of a 4 year old..if they see how a shot gun is loaded, they can figure it out.....case in point
Posted by: coffeeadict on Jan 7, 2009 at 07:08 AM
the parents should be punished! the 4 yr old needs an ol' fashion "woopin"! this is totally the parent/parents fault. a 4 year old is only going to repeat what he/she has seen or heard from the parents!
Posted by: denise on Jan 7, 2009 at 01:54 AM
the child should be punished for this. if he isnt he will turn out like the parents and let HIS KID play with guns. charge the parents with attempted murder and see if they straighten up there act!
Posted by: CHAZ on Jan 7, 2009 at 01:18 AM
I KNOW THE GUYS WERE TAUNTING AND TEASING THE CHILD WHILE I WAS ON THE PHONE AND THAT BABYS FOOT WAS BLUE FROM BEING STOMPED, NOW THATS NOT COOL
Posted by: Vil on Jan 7, 2009 at 01:00 AM
Did Crisp have a proper permit to own this gun? I saw the interview and he feels no remorse for what his child did. Keeping any child in the hands of that man is just insane. And even if the child's foot was stepped on hard and he was taunted like candi claims, he's 4 and he shouldn't have the knowledge on how to shoot another human being. If that information is indeed correct then the father should lose custody for teaching his 4 year old how to load and shoot a gun and leaving him in the care of unfit babysitters.
Posted by: MrObvious on Jan 7, 2009 at 12:19 AM
"CPS ordering him to get any gun -- real or toy -- along with any saw, hammer, nails -- anything active -- out of the home for good." CPS is overreaching. They should tell him to LOCK UP his guns but telling him that he has to give up his guns is wrong. There are some really good secure gun cabinets and safes out there, buy one.
Posted by: Blue on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:57 PM
I have no problems with 4 year olds handling guns. Heck, some of them would probably do a better job enforcing the law than our current police force does. They haven't been corrupted by the political system yet.
Posted by: MD on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM
You people who are teaching your child to load a gun at 4 years old are totally nuts. Anyone who teaches a child how to load and shoot a gun really needs to have thier head examined, thats not smart.I can understand if people teach teenagers, due to hunting, as long as they have a respondsible adult there with them than thats ok but anyone who teaches kids under 12-13 to load and shoot a gun are nuts esp children under the age of 6-7.Now come on people granted we live in a very country hick like place but i know you people gotta be smart enough to know thats not the right thing to do, it's not smart.
Posted by: Ok on Jan 6, 2009 at 10:28 PM
I have 3 children each one has a gun the youngest was 4 when she got hers. She has shot it a couple of times. The thing is my kids KNOW that they are not allowed to mess with their gun unless they are with their father and only then are they allowed to touch them. The shells are all LOCKED with the only person with the key is my husband. Yes some people are responsible adults and yes some are very irresponsible. My children have also been taught the proper way to put safety locks on their guns and the keys to those are also with their father. My youngest is now 5 almost 6 and she still doesnt know how to load her gun her father does it for her. It may sound absurd but they also like hunting and that is why they have them no other reason at all and they were not taught to shoot at people. They know not point it at people either.
Posted by: Paul on Jan 6, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Ok! Since it a single shot shotgun I say the 4yr old may have been able to load it, but doubt he could have closed the barrel,aimed and fired. If the child had it against his shoulder then this child would have a significant bruise. If it wasn't up to his shoulder then I guarantee you his finger and arm would have been injured from the kick. The shotgun would have fired and flew back out of his hand with his finger still on the trigger. I grew up in a hunting family with many shotguns and we knew not to touch them. This child needs some serious re-education on firearms. This no discipline thats been going on since paddeling was stopped in schools has ruined the children today (including my own children, but I do the best to raise them and teach them right from wrong regardless of what they see others do.) If this child has no bruising then the police need to check out one of the others in the house. I still don't think the 4yr old could have loaded and shot the babysitter.
Posted by: * on Jan 6, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Guya this is insane, what's happening in this world....4 year olds...???
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:41 PM
Why did they not have the guns locked up, and why does the child know how to load and shoot a gun in the first place?
Posted by: disgusted reader on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:40 PM
why in the world do kids that young know that much about a gun. i understand protecting yourself, but maybe in a different way than teaching them to SHOOT someone!! that's why our youth is the way they are these days...this really makes me sigh..............why wasn't the "gun" locked up????????????? where oh where has all the smart people gone?
Posted by: Melissa on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:37 PM
This story is very sad...4 year olds should be playing with toys, not guns! Who teaches a 4yr old to load a gun and shoot it? Grow up people and let these kids be kids, if you wanna teach them about guns then do it when they are older, not when they are just a baby!! This childs parents should be held accountable for what he did!! Someone could have died!!
Posted by: candi on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:30 PM
what wasnt told was he grinded the childs foot into the floor when he accidently" stepped on it" and they had teased the child about having a crush on a older man. what would you do?seriously..what would a person do?
Posted by: WVMom on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:29 PM
My goodness!The parents should be charged here! A four year old should not have access to guns and ammo.The toddler was imitating what he has seen.Whoever showed him how to do this is the responsible party!My son played with toy guns but real guns were not at his disposal. No child should be shown how to load a gun until he is old enough to understand the consequences of acting irresonsibly.In our area a little brother shot and killed his brother and they were playing.Imagine the tragedy of that!A smart and responsible gun owner keeps his weapons locked away from children with child locks or gun cabinets or safes, while keeping the ammo locked up tight as well.They then teach their child the proper way to handle a gun.This child didn't learn this on his own.Of course you can't charge a baby.Where were the parents?There is more to this story.
Posted by: P on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:29 PM
I don't think the parents should be charged with anything, sounds like a freak accident to me. I DO NOT think that Children's Services should require them to take the guns out of the home, however they should lock them up and/or a trigger lock.
Posted by: Beth Ann on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:20 PM
This is so crazy. Lock up the guns, they are lucky no one got killed.I don't think the teenagers are to blame. I also don't think that the child should be removed from the home.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:12 PM
lock the whole bunch up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: oh my on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:47 PM
oh my oh my... you guys all think the kid had the gun against his shoulder... Amazing... Most of you probably don't realize that he could definitely do it and common sense is enough to break down, load, pull the hammer, and squeeze the trigger. I am certain that in order for him to hold that gun, he wasn't aiming. He had to have the gun under his arm so that he can reach the trigger. Shooting the gun in that fashion won't leave a bruise. I own the same exact gun and have since I was little. If this father has to get rid of his guns so that he can keep his kid, their are a lot of people in this world that need to get rid of their guns too.
Posted by: Sherry on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:42 PM
Why in God's name would you show a 4 year old how to load a gun? And why was the gun within the easy reach of a child? It should have been in a locked cabinet. Some people should never be allowed to even have kids.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:36 PM
Nobody should be proud their 4 (or 5, or 6, or 7...) year old child can load a gun. Perhaps you as parents should be with your children so they don't have to protect themselves. Obama is right, ignorance breeds a love of gods and guns. Unfortunately, ignorance also seems to breed too many children as well.
Posted by: WOW on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:34 PM
I have a solution: Keep your guns and amunition LOCKED up so your children cannot get to them. Shouldnt this be a LAW? And put the safty on! If you have children this should be common practice.
Posted by: gvn on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:33 PM
The babysitter had to make this kid mad , I dont think he stepped on the kids foot by accident . He made the kid angry with abuse , at 4 years old in his own home he had to be physically abused by the 17 year old . It makes sense that he got mad and decided to get the gun and shoot , in his mind he had no way to retreat from the 17 year old .The kid was defending himself , no doubt about it .The father probably knows this but feels he must say what the authorities want to hear .He is intimidated by the authorities , who always have to have the last word .The authorities want the child to go to counseling so they can interigate him to find out what actually happened .Its an unfortunate incident alltogether , but it seems all parties involved have pursued an elaborate guise to make it all go away .
Posted by: bonn on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:32 PM
A four year old can do this because he was TAUGHT to do this. Where the problem lies is the parents not teaching him to respect life at the same time. Why? People have no morals. Did a big thing teaching him this, didn't you? Very sad. VERY SAD!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:25 PM
as i watched a episode of a well known childrens show the other day with my 3 yearold i was appaled by the demonstration of how to load a pistol, thats where there getting the ideas
Posted by: jessee on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:04 PM
oh yeah them babys can load guns now , thanks to the parents , and this is a good thing. who will protect them , that guy coulde have broke the babes foot, but people dont care
Posted by: mark on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:45 PM
my child, as the one mentioned, can load a gun and is also 4. as parents children need to protect themselves from, abusers..and i am very proud that my daughter can defend herself from the terrors of being abused.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:36 PM
We want a local update ! Did Randy cut and run? How about a full report at 11.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:17 PM
stepped on his foot, well he should have been shot for stepping on that boys foot, its hurt that bad....
Posted by: Allie on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:14 PM
I don't see why people try to lay the blame when they weren't even there. Yes the teens could have been playing around and Yes the kid could've done it too. I have seen many four year olds that could shoot this kind of gun and many kids that were troubled enough to do something like this. Maybe the kid's parents were hunters, I know that they teach their kids to hunt at an early age.
Posted by: RUserious on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:13 PM
The article reads "aggravated assault against the 4-year-old"......WHAT? How can a 4 year old child be charged? That baby cannot be held accountable for what happened...if anyone is charged it should be the parents. What kind of parents does this kid have? Something is not right here!!!
Posted by: April on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:04 PM
I think that it is the parents fault and they should have the child taken from them. The boys safety is not thier top priority or the gun and shells would not have been in a place where he could get to it that easily. I think it is terrible how this will affect the boy. I mean were would he even get the idea it is o.k. to shoot someone just cause you are mad, that is abuse in itself.
Posted by: Frankie on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:02 PM
First of all, did the teenager accidentally step on the child? If not, perhaps this child is reacting due to abuse that has not been recognized. A shotgun has a kick..how did he manage it? There are many questions in this case, and in NO WAY should a 4 year old be charged. He may need to receive counseling, especially to find out what is going on or has been going on to make a baby..yes he is still a baby, go into a rage. The other problem is taking him from his home and placing him in foster care is no answer either, as foster homes can be as bad or worse than the natural environment. Wasn't there more than one teenager there as reported in the first story..maybe the child had "encouragement" and help. Hoepfully, the police are smarter than the kids.
Posted by: ANNA on Jan 6, 2009 at 06:49 PM
THIS IS NUTS! PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE? WHAT FOUR YEAR OLD IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THIS. I AGREE WITH MOST OF THESE PEOPLES COMMENTS. SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT AND WHAT YA GONNA PUT A FOUR YEAR OLD BEHIND BARS AND CHARGE HIM AS AN ADULT? BE FOR REAL PEOPLE
Posted by: Jess on Jan 6, 2009 at 06:18 PM
I think you should look at the teenagers. I really dont think a 4 year old could hold a gun up and shoot and hit any one. That gun should of been lock up. Not where a little kid can get it. Like i said before check out the older kids. Someone is hiding something and its not the 4 year old.....
Posted by: ryker on Jan 6, 2009 at 06:14 PM
omg how would the little 4 year old get the gun and loaded the 20 gage shot gun and it makes me wonder why diddint the baby sitter watch him isint that what there payed to do realy just think about it
Posted by: mark on Jan 6, 2009 at 06:00 PM
first and foremost how did a 4 yr old get hold of that 12 gauge shotgun?second how did a 4 yr old break down,load,reengage,carry,hold,aim and pull the trigger of a 12 gauge?i have fired several different 12 gauge shotguns in my 44 years and every one of them has a kick back when the hammer hits the firing pin.that 4 year old would have been knocked back at least 2 feet and flat on the floor after firing it.this needs to be fully investigated and those teenagers needed to be tested for gpr when the police came to the site
Posted by: kek on Jan 6, 2009 at 05:56 PM
The real issue is that a 4 year old is filled with this much anger, that he would think about striking out in such away at another person.
Posted by: Tam on Jan 6, 2009 at 05:55 PM
Are you sure the babysister didn't shoot himself or someone else may have shot him...But come on a 4 year old thats still a baby .
Posted by: Peggy on Jan 6, 2009 at 05:48 PM
My 9 year old can barely pick up a 20 gauge let alone pick it up and shoot someone. This does not sound right.
Posted by: Bill on Jan 6, 2009 at 05:36 PM
You are right T. There must be some brusing on his little frame. Check his hands and knuckles too. I don't think he could have put the gun to his shoulder.
Posted by: Private on Jan 6, 2009 at 05:24 PM
I know Nathan and he is a great guy I went to school with him and he wouldn't hurt anyone! And I know the other tow teenagers. They are all 3 good kids so I don't see what the fuss is about! Give the kids a break I mean they are all 18 and should know better but steeping on a 4 y/o foot they shouldn't get in trouble for it!
Posted by: JOHN on Jan 6, 2009 at 05:07 PM
OH PLEASE,EMAIL NANCY GRACE? SHE IS A TV PERSONALITY NOW AND IS ONLY LOOKING FOR RATINGS POINTS BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.I DON'T KNOW IF THIS CHILD COULD DO THIS BUT IT IS POSSIBLE I GUESS WITH SOME CHILDREN THAT AGE BEING STRONG ENOUGH TO DO IT.THE COPS? THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING THE PAPER OR TV AND PUTTING A FEATHER IN THERE OWN HATS I'M SORT OF SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T GANG TACKLE THE CHILD PUT CUFFS AND SHACKLES ON HIM.GRANTED THE GUN WAS LEFT IN A DANGEROUS PLACE FOR AN UNTRAINED PERSON, ADULT OR CHILD, AND. SHOULD'VE BEEN LOCKED UP. FOR THE IDIOT THAT SAID THE CHILD SHOULD BE TRIED AS AND ADULT IS TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS. WHAT DO YOU PUT HIM IN JAIL WITH ALL THE OTHER MURDERERS AND RAPISTS. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THIS CHILD MIGHT HAVE NEEDED HAS BACKSIDE PADDLED TO EDUCATE HIM A LITTLE,OH MY GOD WHERE'S CPS I SAID TO PADDLE A CHILD? BETTER IT BE DONE AT HOME INSTEAD OF LETTING HIM GROW UP GET IN TROUBLE AND GET BEATEN BY THE COPS HMMM? WHAT REALLY PROVOKED THIS CHILD IF HE DID DO THIS
Posted by: Kathleen on Jan 6, 2009 at 04:48 PM
How could a 4 year old load a shotgun? Why was the shotgun left out so the child could easily get a hold of it? If the shotgun was not already loaded then why was the bullets left out? I have tons of questions I can generate and all lead me to believe there is more to this story than what is being told. No 4 year old could possibly load a 20 gauge shotgun all by himself and shoot it.
Posted by: Mallory on Jan 6, 2009 at 03:56 PM
They teach their kids to hunt at an early age. I'm not surprised he knew what he was doing. The parents should be charged for not having it locked up safely, not for teaching him how to shoot.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 03:01 PM
It is already on the National news. Check Foxnews website.
Posted by: M on Jan 6, 2009 at 02:59 PM
Who said it was a brake down shotgun? For all U simple minded gun control freaks, there are many different types of 20 guage shot guns and it ain't rocket science to figure out how to load any of them.
Posted by: Devastator MBT on Jan 6, 2009 at 02:40 PM
The sheriff that looked into the possibility of charging a 4 year old with a crime; he needs to lose his badge! A 4 year old is too little for juvenile hall, he needs put in a caring home and carefully watched. Alert for those in older homes/trailers: Prior to 1968, you could legally buy guns through the mail order; undoubtedly, some people have deserted some of that weaponry. Heaven alone knows how many shotguns, deer rifles, Lugers, and the like are ready to rediscovered. Please check your homes and outbuildings, your local PD would be glad to dispose of any unwanted weaponry. Additionally, it should be a felony crime; for any criminal to throw a weapon away in a populated area(like a neighborhood). There's a big urban problem with kids hurting themselves, when they find weaponry ditched by fleeing gang members. Prayers for this little kid and the victim(s).
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 02:37 PM
I"m just wondering if they did any type of forensics testing. Seems to me that they might be able to look for residue on the hand of ALL involved to find out who shot the gun. Or is that too expensive for them to do? I realize real life isn't like all these crime dramas on TV but is that an option? To do a gunpowder residue test on the teens and the baby?
Posted by: IN SHOCK on Jan 6, 2009 at 02:00 PM
I DO NOT BELIVE A 4 YEAR OLD COULD DO THIS? THE PARENTS SHOULD BE CHARGED .THIS CASE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATIONED.2 TEENAGERS SOMETHING MISSING HERE?
Posted by: sad on Jan 6, 2009 at 01:19 PM
this is sad
Posted by: Debbie on Jan 6, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Someone loaded that gun for the 4 yr old!! Please!!!!!!!!! How many 4yr olds could even lift a 20 gauge! I smell a lying teenager somewhere! And I bet they were in that same trailer!
Posted by: MD on Jan 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM
I actually do agree with what "ron" says. However that aside i have some comments first of all i'd love to know how a four year old loaded a gun, at four years old shoot i didn't know anything outside of a barbie doll i had no idea what a gun even was. If the four year old really shot someone than my guess is someone had to teach him how to load and shoot the gun. But at four years old i just wouldn't think i little kid is strong enough to handle a 20 gage shotgun. Granted i don't know a whole lot about guns but if its the gun i'm thinking it is, thats a fairly big gun and awfully heavy for a little feller like that to be able to handle well enough to shoot anyone. Second of all what in the world was a gun doing out in the home to where a 4 year old could get it? It should have been put up somewhere to where that kid (and anyone else for that matter) couldn't get to it.You don't just leave stuff like that laying around the house.
Posted by: cc on Jan 6, 2009 at 12:37 PM
u are all crazy wat happend was a accisdent and all ur opinoins dont matter there was four teens watching him not one there was 3 teen boys 1 teen girl and 2 little kids and u cant just blame it on us teens!! what the news said is int all the truth u werent there so dont judge
Posted by: Someone on Jan 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Can't they dust the gun for prints? Or the outside of the shell if there is anything left of it. I mean come on we have a little bit of things we can do to prove this without sending it off somewhere and it take years to find out.
Posted by: BelieveItOrNot on Jan 6, 2009 at 12:12 PM
To all the people who find it so hard to believe a 4 year old can fire a shotgun- there was a news story on Fox News about an ATV accident where a 2 year old died because of a text message. But also in the story it talks about the 2 year old firing a rifle. A two year old firing a rifle? is that too hard to believe as well? While we should be proud of our heritage, our love country's love affair with guns is out of date...
Posted by: CALICO on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Who said he mean't to shoot him in the foot , maybe he just couldn't lift it any higher
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM
To: what on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:17 PM Um yeah pretty much, everyone who believes it is stupid lol and no i wasnt there but it doenst take a genius to figure it out...And yes an investigation needs done. It wont though, like i said "cops are stupid"
Posted by: JOhn on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM
A four year old cannot possess the requisite criminal culpability to be held criminally responsible. I don't know who this sheriff is but I think he should be removed from office. All it takes is one ridiculous comment like charging a 4 year old with Agg Assault for people to ascertain that the Sheriff of Jackson County is, well, challenged.
Posted by: Momma of 5 Kids on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM
ok this does sound far fetched.I have 5 kids and my 2 boys are in the NRA and they know how and when to use a gun and thats only when either their Father or I are present or their gun instructor. Our daughters in the future will also join but far as a 4 year old shooting a gun--what the hell is this kid eatting to lift a 20 gauge gun and be able to load and steady it while he aimed to shoot.I have watched my boys and see how hard it is for them to steady a gun and I too know its not easy and they are 11 and 16. And a 20 gauge also does leave a bruise because I have seen it on them when they use a 20 gauge. So yea something makes no sense here. Sounds like we should be checking for a bruise and gun residue on everone present at the time.
Posted by: Mossberg JR on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Quit posting stupid comments about this kid.You and I know that this boy couldn't have done this.The police better step back and think this out. Take the kid and put the gun in front of him, tell him to load it, and let him shoot it.Take the juvies and give them a lie detector test.I think you'll get a positive answer. My son's eight and I have guns and he doesn't get near them PERIOD. Those boys were nosing around and found the gun.
Posted by: WHATEVER!! on Jan 6, 2009 at 10:23 AM
OGM. are you for real? I dont beleave it at all but if he did I MEAN IF HE DID someone had to show him how to load it. am I right?
Posted by: crissy on Jan 6, 2009 at 10:23 AM
i was there and u all dont no wat happend i was there and i was one of the 18 years olds there u dont have to believe wat happend but it did we are all suffering
Posted by: love on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:25 AM
did this teenager step on his foot on purpose trying to be mean? Maybe he was abusing him. Who knows what really happened. I bet the whole truth did not come out. I think the parents should have a long talk with this child and put up their guns. The guns should have been put away locked with any child in the house. Maybe they were and the teens got them out. I hope the parents will love and guide and protect all these kids. They all need love.
Posted by: STEPPING on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:59 AM
I JUST SEEN THIS ON FOX NEWS. 30 SECONDS AND AROUND THE WORLD.
Posted by: Bill on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:29 AM
My neighbor hood has a violent gang of 4 and 5 year olds who are armed with sling shots and pea shooters. THEY ARE VERY DANGEROUS!! It is that that their leader has learned to make a really hard spit ball!! Watch out..I hope they never ever get bb guns or it will be curtains for us oldsters!!!LOL and don't turn your back on a 4 year old you just walked all over.
Posted by: Amazed! on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:05 AM
Wonderful! our area made national news with this pathetic story.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:04 AM
These are teenagers we are talking about. I really dont believe a 4 year old picked up a gun, loaded it, carried it back to the teens, aimed and shot anyone. Seems these teens are hiding something....Teenagers (as well as adults)lie all the time to get out of trouble. More investigation needs done on this one. A 4 year old also cant be held accountable for saying anything about it. I can tell my 4 year old that she messed up her room, and she belives me and will tell ppl that she did....Come on....this is crazy!!!!!!! My 12 year old has trouble holding a 22....
Posted by: Just Me KY on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:03 AM
I just want to know why the parents have not been charged with endangering the child. Leaving a deadly weapon in reach of a 4 year old. I have two kids 11 and 14. My guns are locked away out of site (out of mind)! Wise cracks against WV or OH residents will not change the fact that gun safety is more important than gun control. You can buy trigger locks for guns. Even if a kid can get to it or get to the ammunition then it cannot be fired.
Posted by: tina on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:52 AM
dont think a 4 year cannot load a gun. my nephew was 4 when he wanted to show a friend his dads gun. and it happened in a split second so to speak. the boys were playing videos and someone came up outside so we walked out to see who it was. the next thing we know we hear a gun going off. the shells were hidden in a drawer and the gun under the bed.it was 30/30. luckily the gun was heavy for him and he couldnt lift it but he did shot a whole in the floor.everyone thought the gun and shells were hidden away from the kids.so people should never say a 4yr old couldnt do it, just pretend they can and lock the guns up ans stop the problem before it happens
Posted by: gayle on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:17 AM
that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. those other boys were playing with the gun and had an accident. they should have made up a better story if they were going to lie. jackson county sheriff don't be as dumb as portsmouth PD, check out the big boys and see about their history.
Posted by: Mom of Two in ky on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:13 AM
o dear lord, there is no way that a 4 yr old could do this, a shot gun no way.. I hope the police realizes that geeze. what are they thinking is there a bruise on the babys shoulder or body,gun powder residue? I know when I shoot my 20 gage i get a kick back and a slight bruise . this is unbelievable.The force of that gun would have knocked that baby back and there is just no way this 4 year old did this
Posted by: Bev on Jan 6, 2009 at 07:11 AM
I'm 47 years old and I just learned how to load my 20-gauge. I feel like a lot of the other posters on here. There is more to this story. Maybe the 4 year old didn't do it. Maybe they were playing around and it accidentally went off. Who better to blame than someone who can't possibly defend themselves???
Posted by: Wow!!! on Jan 6, 2009 at 05:25 AM
I just want to say "WoW", I mean, first of all how big is this child? He would have to be pretty big to hold a shot gun, those have kick, and they are very heavy and you guys out there blaming the parents, who are you to judge? Did you ever stop to think that maybe they were at work and had a family member watch the child.. You know child care now days is out of control, It cost way to much, even if both parents are working, it cost my son and his wife 400 dollars a month for day care and they don't pay their workers very well either so the way I see it you get what you pay for which isn't very good care... Wait for the whole story if Wsaz can do that for the parents sake...Stop judging,
Posted by: Foxy on Jan 6, 2009 at 05:17 AM
Did the Police test the hands of everyone in the home to see WHO shot the gun? Also, surely there is a bruise on a 4 yr old from a shotgun blast. Were there any pictures taken of the 4 yr old's upper body? I am an adult and they bruise me.
Posted by: T on Jan 6, 2009 at 01:46 AM
i think that the police need to check out the teenagers! there is no way a 4 yr. old can do this!if they still believe that this 4 yr. old did do this, then check his body for physical evidence, he will be brusied somewhere.DO THE INVESTIGATION!
Posted by: Kim on Jan 6, 2009 at 12:40 AM
To Ron . Your comments are uncalled for. Looks like you people in ohio are catching up with us people in West Viginia on crime.
Posted by: fred on Jan 6, 2009 at 12:31 AM
another one for rossie
Posted by: CLAY CO. on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:26 PM
I'LL BUY THAT LAND MR. SAMPLES, I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISLAND!!!!
Posted by: what on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:17 PM
WHY DO YOU SAY "THE POLICE ARE TOO STUPID" THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE STORY AS IT IS TOLD AND THEN DO AN "INVESTIGATION". BESIDES, I GUESS YOU ARE SAYING ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE STUPID FOR BELIEVING THE STORY. I WAS NOT THERE, WERE YOU dd?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:16 PM
this is bs a 4 year old cant do all that may be if the gun was loaded the child could i mean i dont belive this i thank the 2 teenager was playin with the gun an shot thier self with it then congeird up a story that the 4 year old done it an the stupid cops belived it but hey i could be wrong
Posted by: Anon on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:14 PM
OMG are you serious. So if they convict this 4 yr old where do they put him? Is there such a thing as preschool-prison? If this is what really happened maybe it should be the parents charged(the parents of which ever house they were at)for having a shotgun and shells accessable to a 4 yr old. Gimmie a break what can the system be thinkin on this one? Also if it did happen that way I think this child needs some help. Can you imagine a child getting that angry ? There has to be some problems there. But I still think it is all BS and the trigger was pulled by someone else.
Posted by: Ashley on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Ron>> You sound like an overzealous idiot. Personally, I agree with the rest of you guys, there is NO WAY a four year old possesses the strength and dexterity to do this.
Posted by: lydia on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Now how in thee world can a 4 year old load a 20-gauge shot gun!If i had to be guessing, he probably learned from his parents/guardian.You know childern these days are not what they were in the 70's right? GOD BLESS TO ALL!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:49 PM
no comment...
Posted by: concerned mother on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:47 PM
this is to wow, even after my ex husband attacked me in front of our very young children I still did not keep a gun in our home. Children can harbor anger just as much as an adult. If your children are as protective of you as mine are of me, they would easily pick up that gun and use it to the best of their ability!
Posted by: deb on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:46 PM
LOL, this is unbelievable. Another story for Jay Leno's headlines or better yet a "My Name Is Earl" episode. Folks even in Mayberry crimes were solved. Looks like the 4 year old would be evaluated for bruises from a gun kick...I'm sorry but this story is pretty far fetched.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:37 PM
If it happened in Jaclson, Ohio, why is everyone dogging West Virginia? It wasn't our four year old on the news
Posted by: concerned mom on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:35 PM
one day i had my child at this home and this child pinched a piece from my kid.the parents laughed and said yeah he can shot a shotgun , i figured he would end up in prison before he was 5. maybe prison will get the child and the mom , think twice,. guns arent for children and i think i made my point, let me know what you think.
Posted by: peds nurse on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:57 PM
If you really want the truth try giving the teens a lie detector test to see which teen fired the gun. Give the baby some cookies and a hug and he'll tell you the truth and nothing but the truth.
Posted by: Don't think so on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:57 PM
I think there is more to this story, if it's true at all. I'd hate to see what happened if someone interrupted him while he was watching Spongebob.
Posted by: Morgan on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:55 PM
Theyre going to have a hard time finding another sitter for this little one LoL! I hope CPS is now involved in this case. Why does the 4 yr old even know how to load a gun??
Posted by: dd on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:49 PM
I agree. If you read the police report and read the wsaz topic, none of it makes sense at all! First off I dont see a 4 year old getting that angry to shoot someone. Second, if he did do this, the report says he got the shell, went back to the bedroom, got the gun, LOADED the gun and then came back to where 4 or 5 other people were???? Come on. And if you're babysitting arent you supposed to be watching the boy?? This isnt right and I do not believe the little boy did it. Plus it states there are witnesses, it names 2 boys plus a 5 year old...Now thats a lot of people to not notice the 4 year old was gone and up to something. Also, why are 2 18 year old boys babysitting?? I mean not to be judgmental, but 18 year old boys dont normally babysit small children...This sounds made up i agree with others or something else happened and the police are too stupid to realize it!
Posted by: Ward on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:49 PM
The 4 year old should be charged with attempted murder and tried as an adult.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:48 PM
after reading the police report, I don't know, something is wierd, a 20 gauge is a big gun for a 4 year old, it had to have kicked the snot out of him but the police report said he laid it down, maybe it's a big 4 year old, who knows.
Posted by: CLS on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:45 PM
OK..let me get this straight..and I quote.."the Sheriff says..aggravated assault against the 4 year-old..this put me in hysterical laughter,who is this genius and what is his educational background in law emforcement???..WTG!
Posted by: dan m on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:44 PM
ive known the babes parents and they learned him at a young age to protect and honor, more parents should take heed.
Posted by: Eric on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:39 PM
im going with Doyle on this one....no way did a 4 yr old load a shotgun and then was able to carry it thru the house and then raise it,find his target and shoot.NO WAY!!! i would have had the child show me how he did it with a blank shell.summin smells bad.
Posted by: Unknown on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:34 PM
This story is strange and what are the cops trying to hide or cover up? Why isn't anyone concerned with what is going on with the 4yr old and why the parents would even be so stupid to teach a young child how to load a stupid gun! These parents need there rights taken away and charged with child endangerment,Come on CPS step in when you are needed for once!
Posted by: April on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:32 PM
I remember when I was about 12 shooting a shotgun, the one and only time I ever shot a shotgun. My father was standing behind me with his hands on the gun too and I still had a bruise on my entire shoulder. SO how can a 4 year old who would be what? 30 pounds or so manage to shoot one? Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:30 PM
Here is how I see it a 4 year old is not strong enough to breaka gun down and put a shell into the chamber and pull the hammer back or if it was a pump how would he cock it the 4 year old didn't do it one of the teenagers shot the 18 year old boy the police down in Jackson must be dumb
Posted by: Whatever!!! on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:25 PM
WHAT EVER! I have a four year old and I have shot a shotgun before. It knocked me back. I seriously doubt that a four year old could have done this. SOMEONE IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.
Posted by: oh my on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:19 PM
As much as I hate to say it, but if the gun in question is anything like my new england 20 gauge... The four year old can do it. Further more... My children all have their own 22/410. All of them have been around guns since they entered this world... None of them ever touch or pay attention to their guns until they are instructed. People who hide their guns and don't teach their kids about gun safety are the true idots... As for the WOW again woman... you have issues if you are keeping loaded weapons in your house. A gun is only dangerous when loaded with an idiot behind it pulling the trigger. We have several guns in our home and no ammunition anywhere close. A loaded weapon is meant for firing not for sitting around.
Posted by: STORYBOOK on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:12 PM
I AM GOING TO E-MAIL NANCY GRACE,SHE WILL GET THE TRUTH! 4 YEARS OLD AND CAN LOAD A GUN BY HIM SELF? SOMETHING FISHY HERE?
Posted by: concerned parent on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:54 PM
this sounds like hog wash to me.
Posted by: anon on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:47 PM
Sounds to me like the four year old got blamed for the babysitters shooting up the place.
Posted by: Mike on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:42 PM
First of all, I agree with Larry (4:13pm) about believing this story. Now to those saying the babysitter shouldn't be charged, I just want to know how many of you would let him watch your kid(s)? If the 4 yr. old went into another room and loaded a shotgun, he had to be gone for awhile. Also, don't tell me a 4 year old came into the living room carrying a shotgun, had time to lift it and draw a bead, without someone being able to stop him. What was the babysitter doing during all of this? Doesn't sound like he was babysitting to me, wouldn't you agree?
Posted by: megan on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:11 PM
this is totally crazy -- have the police forgotten that the 4yr old has parents and is ultimely responsible - they should be charged for child endangerment by not having the guns locked up -- and someone had to have shown that child how to load a gun -- they don't figure it out that fast without being shown. Also charging the babysitter??? for all we know they could have been playing a game that went too far.. what is this world coming to? if a 4yr old does that now - wait until they get older and something ticks them off.. what a great way to handle their upset when they get upset or don't get what they want.. it is true they learn from their parents
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:05 PM
If this child did what he's is being accused of, wouldn't there be bruises on the child from shooting the shot gun??? Just curious!!! Why would any mature adult, show a 4 year old child how to load a shot gun? Sorry people, this smells a little fishy to me.....
Posted by: SA on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:03 PM
To appalled, I absolutely agree with you, guns should not be taken away from people that know how to correctly store a gun without bullets being anywhere around, and the gunsbeing locked up with a hidden key, and safety on regardless. GUNS DON'T SHOOT OR KILL PEOPLE, ITS THE IDIOTS WITH THE GUNS THAT SHOOT AND KILL PEOPLE!!!!!!
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Posted by: dave on Jan 5, 2009 at 07:00 PM
a four year old child will not be smart enough to load a shout gun or figure out how to take the safety off or cock it
Posted by: He loaded it? on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:58 PM
I dunno Larry & "you must be joking"...considering some of the other really strange and crazy things that happen in this world anymore, why not this? Wouldn't surprise me if it's not true If he really did do this & he even knew how to LOAD the gun? Then he and any sibs need taken away from this bunch ASAP! Someone had to teach him how to load and shoot the thing! THAT wouldn't surprise me either with some "parents" nowadays!
Posted by: Scott on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:31 PM
I find it extremely hard to believe that a 4 yr. old child can load, let alone shoot a 20 gauge shotgun. My guess is that the babysitters were playing around with the gun and they're blaming the 4 yr old since it's unlikely that a 4 yr old would do jail time.
Posted by: L on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:29 PM
I don't understand even considering charges against a 4 yr old. I do understand charging the 18 yr old for child endangerment. The 18 yr old was supposed to be watching the 4 yr old...who was playing with a gun. A 4 yr old is not expected to be responsible, an 18 yr old is. And this 18 yr old ignored the child he was supposed to be watching and allowed him to get his hands on a gun.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:25 PM
Kids only copy what they see from their parents. If this little boy did something like this...What are his parents like? He had to learn it somewhere.
Posted by: Ron on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:22 PM
LOL What do you West Virginia gun nuts say NOW? "Guns don't kill people, people kill people?" LOL What if that "people" is 4 years old? Obama was right. Ya'll just cling to your guns and your Bibles. But most of all, your ignorance.
Posted by: kevin maynard on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:20 PM
Look at wvrja.com at all of the 4 year olds pulling hard time. Some one is full of crap.
Posted by: Cassie on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:14 PM
Charge the 4 year old? Hopefully he gets the same prosecuter/judge Dave Evans did!
Posted by: Devastator MBT on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:09 PM
Where are the child welfare people? Thank Heaven the kid didn't have a Luger, he might have shot several people. Obviously, something is messed up and needs fixed here; a 4 year old is too little for juvenile hall.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 05:59 PM
WTF????? who lets a 4 year old have a gun? or teach one how to load a gun??
Posted by: mom of 2 on Jan 5, 2009 at 05:45 PM
I'm sorry, but how many 4 year old kids do you know that can load a shotgun and shoot it???? Sounds like BS to me!!!!!
Posted by: Maddi on Jan 5, 2009 at 05:35 PM
I agree with some of the comments. How in the world did a 4 yr old shoot a 20 gauge shotgun and not get hurt? I was 7 yrs old and shot a 12 gauge and it threw me up against the side of the hill and it put a big bruise on my shoulder. There is no way that this child shot this gun and didn't get hurt. I agree that there is more to this story and the 18 yr old which is a adult and the other person were playing with the gun and yes it could have been a accident and one shot the 18 yr old but to blame it on a 4 yr old so they wouldn't go to jail i think that is more of the story. There is no way this child done it.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 05:12 PM
All doesn't add up. Also everyone keeps saying charge the parents whom said they were babysitting at the childs home? Maybe they were at the teenagers home instead. Many parents drop their kids off at babysitters. So step back for a second and stop judging. As for a four year old doing this I agree should be at least some brusing from using a shotgun. Also this isn't that out there just a few months ago wasn't it a 7 or 8 year old in Arizona that shot and killed his father and a friend of the family? Don't be to quick to accept but don't judge to quickly as well.
Posted by: seriously? on Jan 5, 2009 at 05:07 PM
My son is 5 years old. At 4, the only way he would've known how to load and discharge a shotgun would have been if I had spent considerable time teaching him. I agree with others that this kid is probably getting the blame for something that another teenager did. Maybe the police should ask the child to show them how he did it (minus the live rounds). And to BillyJack: I wouldnt boast about the fact that your "pappy" taught you about guns before he taught you the alphabet. But maybe he was teaching what he knew and leaving out what he didnt.
Posted by: ruth on Jan 5, 2009 at 05:06 PM
this can;t be true, a 4year old can't break down a shotgun to load it,unless someone helped; this is crazy
Posted by: M on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:41 PM
The parents should be charged and have this children taken away from them.
Posted by: TO LARRY on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:38 PM
GO CRAW BACK UNDER THE ROCK YOU LIVE UNDER!
Posted by: Woowh on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:38 PM
I don't see how the 4 year old could have carried it,let alone held it while he pulled the trigger, especially depending on the gauge of the shotgun. That blows my mind, and he has had to have seen how to do it somewhere, somehow. I am in aggreance, I believe the parents would be the ones held accountable, why charge the teenage babysitter at all, did he know the child was messing with a shotgun, did he even know it was there possibily not. Charging the 4yr old or the teen is ludicrious.
Posted by: eclipse on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:37 PM
The parents should be the ones in trouble here. No way should a child have access to get to a gun and let alone know how to load the shells?
Posted by: OMG on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:34 PM
WOW!! WHERE ARE THE PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!! I feel they are to blame. Someone had to teach this child how to get the shells and how to load the gun. Also, why was a firearm so easily acessible to any child regardless of age? I can understand charging the 18 y/o for a violation but not the child b/c the child could not understand the punishment. If the child knows so much about a firearm that what type of home is this child growing up in? I am not trying to bash this child but his actions are extreme for a child, the parents may need to seek some type of counseling for this child. Feel sorry for the person that got shot. Just do not understand how this happens?
Posted by: Mo on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:34 PM
Ladies and Gents let me tell you something I have 4 sons and I can assure you that if this child put bullets into a gun and shot it and hit his intended target that this is a miracle child! My sons oldest being 10 still cant aim his bb gun properly even with instructions from us and he has had it for many years. So here is my thoughts on this! 1.) Either someone else loaded this gun and showed the boy how to shoot it and maybe even helped him aim it. OR 2.) The teenagers (knowing they would get into trouble) are fibbing to cover one another for having the gun out and shooting it and accidently hitting another teen. There is no way this child 4yrs old could load aim and shoot someone "by himself" and if there is any other doubt do testing have the child practice shooting the gun at a range for evidence! Lets see how good a shot he is! Now if he can do this then the parents and the teens need to all be charged! Lets not blame an innocent child. Hold the responsible , responsible. Cont..
Posted by: larry on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:13 PM
If you believe this story I have some swamp land for sale.This is a made up story.
Posted by: You must be joking on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:11 PM
Something doesnt sound right here...
Posted by: Anon on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:09 PM
I have a 4 year old myself and all of the guns in the house are out of reach & the shells aren't even in the house at all. I agree with everyone else's comments, about the child's anger, why the gun was so easily accessible, etc. May God be with this little boy and give him love in his heart. My prayers go out to all involved.
Posted by: Confused on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:02 PM
It amazed by this. Where are all you people who were quick to judge the young man that accidentally shot & killed Michael Mullins. How sad when a 4yr old can load a gun & knew what he was doing. Why aren't you making nasty comments about this situation, what about his parents. Is it ok just because of the age. Come on people let's be real. I know this gentleman very well in the Mullins situation & also knew Michael & I know for a fact that Haskel would not harm anyone on purpose. Again I ask, Is it ok because of this childs age & where did he learn to load a gun. Now maybe you people will have something new to talk about & leave the Mullins & Johnson families alone to grieve.
Posted by: beth on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:56 PM
hmmmm...Imagine what if this was a school aged child and another kid spilled milk on him, would he bring a gun to school and handle it the same way? Sounds like this child is being taught or being exposed to the wrong things. Aside from the fact of the gun and shells not being locked away, why does a 4 year old know how to load one? shouldn't they be coloring? This is just unbelievable. Don't get me wrong, if this was a mistake I'm sure the parents are feeling pretty bad but even careless mistakes deserve punishment.
Posted by: Appalled! on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:55 PM
I can't believe this! I'm ALL for keeping guns especially now with home invasions and crime so rampant, BUT any IDIOT knows enough to keep those guns LOCKED UP! How on earth does a 4 yr old even know how to handle or shoot a real shotgun? Pretty heavy for him I would think much less shoot it! Not only was the gun accessible, it was LOADED? Please don't tell me the kid knew how to load it too! I totally agree with "D" on here @ 12:34 p.m. These idiots do not deserve to have a child! He learned this anger stuff from THEM as "D" said! They need taken out and beaten to hopefully beat some sense into them They're probably on drugs though & could care less what their kid(s) does What morons! People will say "oh it's the guns, take them away from people"...NO, it's not the GUNS, it's the idiots who have them who shouldn't and who don't know enough or CARE enough to lock them away from kids!
Posted by: BillB on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:49 PM
I'm sorry but this story dosen't sound right to me. Must be more to it.
Posted by: JC on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:37 PM
If the authorities charge the 4 year old, there would be a community outcry and it would hit the national news. There is no way you could file charges on a 4 year old baby. The parents should be charged and the babysitter should be charged for not keeping an eye on the child. How long should a child be left alone before someone goes to check to see what it is doing? Who knows what other guns are in the home and that child could have gotten killed. Only in Jackson...
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:29 PM
Charging the teen? Aggravated assault against the 4 year old for stepping on his foot? The deputies in Ohio should be evaluated for mental health. Then charge the gun owners for not having it locked up. i think the 18 year old is probably suffering enough with his shotgun blast wound.
Posted by: Shar on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:27 PM
Why would a four-year-old child know where to find a gun, and why would he know how to load it? I thought guns were to be kept in a safe place away from children for THEIR safety. I can't imagine a four-year-old child having so much anger that he would even think about shooting someone. Is there more to the story? Did the babysitter do more than step on the child's foot?
Posted by: brittany on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:21 PM
i cant believe that a child that age would have access to a gun and also know how to load it. I mean how could he even know how to load it? Also why would they charge the babysitter with child endangerment it is not his fault that a 4 yr old knows how to load a gun and him probablly didnt mean to step on the childs foot. I do think the parents should be more responsible with having a gun in the house.
Posted by: dont understand on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:16 PM
the parents need to be held responsible for the 4 year old actions. 4 year olds do not know how to load a gun unless taught, or shown. And why was the gun and ammo where the child could reach it. The parents needs to do some explaining. I hope the babysitter recovers fully.
Posted by: WOW again on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:12 PM
seems to me like a case of "im going to buy a gun, let my kid see me and my spouse fight, let my kid see how the gun works, let my kid see the destructin, but not TEACH my kid what the consequences of pulling a trigger or shooting someone can be". I myself have 3 kids :9, 3, & 10 months. I also have 9 guns, 2 loaded, rest not. In my circumstance, I have to have a loaded gun, exhusbands threats have made my decision for me. but my kids are ALL educated, ALL taught what can happen, and neither of them are curious enough to take one without asking, or shoot one for that matter. Kids should be warned properly, guns and ammo should be stored properly, and babysitters should be warned that guns are present in the home. this is a sad case for gun owners alike, and its unfortunate this had to happen. what kind of anger issues do a 4 year old have? and why isn't the issue of the parents being charged brought up? WOW.
Posted by: Aqui on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:02 PM
How?
Posted by: Doyle on Jan 5, 2009 at 02:49 PM
One must realize that this may not be the full truth. If the child loaded the gun, was able to lift it, get a general bead on his target, and fire the thing without breaking anything, including himself, kind of stretches the imagination. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just a little far fetched to me. O the other hand, if this gun-crime progidy actually did what is claimed, charge the boy's parents for having a firearm within easy reach of a child, with ammunition readily available. There are gun-ownership laws and regulations. Enforce them. And don't let this become another weapon in the hands of anti-gun groups.
Posted by: Shocked!!! on Jan 5, 2009 at 02:28 PM
Just because you can have children doesn't mean that everyone should. For a child to have that much anger at the age of 4 abuse may come into question. I hope that the police really check out this childs environment. Thank goodness the 18 year old didn't die.
Posted by: A on Jan 5, 2009 at 02:23 PM
Ok guys this is what I see going on... It says some teenagers was baby setting. People do you honestly cant believe a 4 year old shot someone? It had to be one of the teenagers. Maybe they was playing around with the guns and one went off and they got scared and blamed it on the 4 year old. Think about it. Could any normal 4 year old pick up and carry a shot gun thru the house. Plus, if he did do it they would have made comments as to the childs arm or arms being broke because we all know that guns kick. This story does not add up.. Do your math guys..... If a 4 year old gets mad he throws a crying fit not strom thru the house and get a gun. I'm just not buying it. No way no how.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 02:06 PM
How about, if the babysitter was actually watching him, he wouldn't have got a gune to shoot him with.
Posted by: becki on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:59 PM
OMG I am not even sure what to say. I really think that Childern services should step in, because something is so not right about this whole deal.
Posted by: BillyJack on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:47 PM
What do you mean how did a 4-year old know how to load a gun? Our grandpappy's taught us about guns before we even learned our ABC's. Yep thats hows its always been and how we like it. You never know when he may have to defend himself from a terrorist or one of those other people.
Posted by: Nico on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:43 PM
And people like this wonder why gun control laws have so much support...
Posted by: billy on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:30 PM
i want that kid on my side when they try and take our guns away
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:10 PM
if gun is not loaded the child is extremly smart to be able to break down a shotgun load it shut the barrel back down pull back the hammer and pull the trigger,it will teach them to mess with him
Posted by: me on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:07 PM
Why would the 18 year old be charged with anything? That is absurd!!!! Perhaps whoever taught a 4 year old to load a shotgun should be charged. Also, the little guy obviously knew where the gun and the shells were located. Those are things a babysitter would have no control over.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:04 PM
CRAZY! Why on earth would anyone leave a shotgun or any gun for that matter within reach of a child? HOW would the child even know how to load the gun??? I think there should be more investigation into this case. The parents definitely should be held responsible. Blame the parents for this 'crime'!
Posted by: ???? on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:02 PM
What??? This is so bizzare! I know strange things can happen but come on! How in the world does a four year old even know how to load a shotgun? And who showed him and why? GEESH! This is nuts!
Posted by: Concerned in Ohio on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:00 PM
For God's sake...it was in Jackson----that should tell you something right there...
Posted by: gvn on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:00 PM
When I was 7 I tried to shoot a neighbor kid who had made a habit of mistreating my sister who was terminally ill . I shot at him point blank on our front porch with a double barrell 12 gauge and missed , it would have been a tradegy had I killed the boy .I was able to influence his poor treatment of my sister though , matter of fact I didnt see him much at all after that . Its not safe to mistreat anyone , as this young boys actions have shown .
Posted by: hmmm on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM
This is nuts, how would a 4 yr old know how to load a gun and who would leave it down in the childs reach. Parents need some training it sounds like not the child.
Posted by: Amy on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM
The parents should be charged in this case, not the babysitter! The parents are the ones who left a shotgun in a place where a 4 year old could access it. And how would a 4 year old know how to load a shot gun? If anyone is guilty of child endangerment, it would be the parents!
Posted by: D on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Are you kidding me! Why was there a shotgun so easily accesible to a 4 year old? Better yet, why has someone taught this child how to load it? This make me sick to my stomach, that a child would have so much anger and that their anger reaches a point that they pick up a gun. The only people to blame in the situation are the child's parents, because at 4 he wouldn't have an anger issue unless it was learned from his parents exposing him to it. I hope the child gets the help he needs and that it is not to late to turn him into a self respecting human in the long run. I really hate to say this, but maybe this child would be better off to be taken from his parents and given to someone that can teach him self control and love. Absolutley, NO CHILD should be able to grab a gun and just shoot, because something occured that they didn't like. I'm sorry that this had to happen. I'm really in shock.
Posted by: Shana on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM
That is crazy! How can you charge a 4 yr. old.Take his diapers away? That is crazy.And no child should have access of a shotgun.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM
The 18 year old might get charged and the 4 year old is the one who shot the gun and could have killed the 18 year old. Seems like to me the parents of the 4 year old need charged.
Posted by: I want to know on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Where in the heck were the parents? Why would a four year old even know how to load a gun? Sounds like the parents of the child need to be charged for having the shells down where the child could even reach them. All I can say is WOW!
Posted by: Michelle on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I think I would hold the parents responsible for this child's actions. Why was this gun so easily accessible?
Posted by: taco jim on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM
what in the world? I don't know the whole story or the enviroment that the 4 year old lives in but, wow!
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  • Posted By: : Seems to me the more than one person has too much time on their hands. I don't understand why people get on here and bash each other's comments. Why don't you all get jobs. WOW, don't think I will return to this section of the webpage anymore.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello working people of WV this is Big Earl and people there is nothing wrong with eating good wholesome foods like bacon sausage eggs lard flour and the like all these PETA types are ganging up on our good food like you cant go to a baseball game now and get a hotdog without a PETA nut bothering you boo hooing about the poor little pig that turned out as a hotdog. Now my favorite restaurant in the world Kentucky Fired Chicken has thrown in twith these nuts and is grilling chicken now. Chicken was never meant to be grilled only fried regular or extra crispy. So people I say get busy we have work to do they is two states in front of us we in WV have to reclaim our top spot as best fed in the whole country go down to the foodland or kroger and get a cube of regular mountain dew a sack of Lays chips and some good ball park big red smokeys with a big bowl of chili and have a grill out tomorrow to celebrate the fourth of July in style and may I say God bless the USA and coal miners too.
  • Posted By: food for thought: Yes I am a Christian. I do need to understand the book of Revelation more and the end time prophecy. Like most I have the concept of it. Just to make it short, government dependence(happening more than ever) and is almost being forced for the citizens of this country to rely on. Cap and trade?(sign of the mark of the beast?)I don't know. I am ready. You that believe in science is fine, I do too. I do not go as far as to believe every report they give out. I pose this question. if you are so worried about global warming that means you don't like heat or burning:correct? Hmmm, think on this of what in Revelation I do understand. The lake of fire is where the worm dieth not and the fire is never quenched. Eternity is forever, on this Earth we are just passing through.
  • Posted By: to why: no ,hetrosexuals wont go to hell any slower than gays.adultry fornication,stealing lying murder etc,are all sins.every one sins,it just that you cant say you want to be a christian,and keep on with bad habits or not want to change and expect god to say thats all right.life is a struggle for all of us.we are expected to repent and try our hardest to do whats right.god respects that.you are not in any more danger than any other sinner.i know that homosexuality is a sin but so is adultry.would we tell an adulter that its all right to keep on hurting their marriage and spouse and thats alright,no.i would rather live beside an honest caring,productive gay person than a dishonest evil selfish nosy buissybody any day.we are only responsible for our own sins and actions.you sound stressed,lighten up.but homosexuality is a sin,like adultry and fornication,nobody gets a free pass.
  • Posted By: Patty: Good points, Htiek, but the status quo with coal mining, which is a dirty business, no matter how it is marketed, i.e., "clean coal" (coal is dirty, period), will remain till the resources are depleted, the land and environment of the coal fields are destroyed, which is pretty much the case at present.
  • Posted By: bonn: One more thing and I really will stop. Why does the weather cycle? I do not know everything-no one does. But everything has its purpose. Sometimes, more cold is called for. If we don't have hard winters snakes and mosquitoes thrive, for one. Mosquitoes are a large part of fish diet. And snakes keep rodents in check. But too much cold hurts other things that call for warmer temps. Quail is one thing that comes to mind that suffer in the frigid temps. We just don't understand all of the workings of these things. But it is all to keep a balance-many times in things we ourselves have killed off, such as bear and wolves. Even if we don't like some species, they all serve a purpose and nature helps keep that balance. Our world really was wonderfully made. With all the changes in temperature, we still have seasons. You can know it will be cold in winter and hot in summer. The excesses serve a purpose we sometimes can not see. Strive to learn of all of her wonders, not follow blindly.
  • Posted By: bonn: I would like to apologize if I have been short and critical. I really am sorry. It is no excuse, but I have a very sick child who may be dying and I get so upset at the state of our world. I do have to quit reading these comments. But I hope I have caused a few people at least to think with their own common sense instead of blindly following whatever. Some theories may be correct. But many ARE for monetary purposes. We each were given a mind to think with. Question everything before taking it as it appears. And be sure and thank a veteran for the freedom we celebrate this weekend. Too many have died to protect it to just give it up willingly. And whether or not you are religious, lets try to love one another. Love can fix so many things! Try to keep our world clean, But that doesn't have to bankrupt us. We can all do our part in whatever ways we can. The old saying "Give a hoot, don't pollute" should not have gone out of style. And use your wikipedia to read "Ice Age" to see cycling.
  • Posted By: Follow up on cap and rape: CNSNews.com) – The 1,400-page cap-and-trade legislation pushed through by House Democrats contains a new federal policy that residential, commercial, and government buildings be retrofitted to increase energy efficiency, leaving it up to the states to figure out exactly how to do that. This means that homeowners, for example, could be required to retrofit their homes to meet federal “green” guidelines in order to sell their homes, if the cap-and-trade bill becomes law. The bill, which now goes to the Senate, directs the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to develop and implement a national policy for residential and commercial buildings. The purpose of such a strategy – known as the Retrofit for Energy and Environmental Performance (REEP) – would be to “facilitate” the retrofitting of existing buildings nationwide.In other words all your appliances-heating-stove -fridge-windows-would have to meet green standards before we sell SOCAILISM HAS ARRIVED YESWEDID
  • Posted By: ANOTHER YES WE CAN: First you paid to insure your car. Soon you may have to add health insurance premiums to that stack of monthly bills as well. In a revamped health care system envisioned by senators, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face fines of more than $1,000. The details were unveiled Thursday in a health care overhaul bill supported by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.SOCAILISM IS HERE The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines would raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals
  • Posted By: bonn: Good grief! The brain washing has gone so far it will never get better. Some of this way of thinking makes me physically ill in my stomach. All of one mind! Mindless devotion to whatever is contrary to common sense and whatever theory is being passed around. Most families have both parents working, some two jobs, just to make it now. Soon you won't even be able to work enough to carry your family, the government and the ones who won't work. Then you will be disposable and they will start killing you off because you can't give them enough money. But you will blindly keep following. It is easy to see how Hitler took control and how it is being set up for the antichrist to take control. I quit. I will never read another comment. And Kris, did that nut not know the sky has always appeared blue? Hahaha Goodbye. I know you will reply, but I won't be reading it. Never again. Either you believe God or the scientists. I choose God. And freedom!
  • Posted By: cap and trade: world net daily has an informative article on home ownership and all buildings in u.s.it is about total government control of everyone.you will have to answer to the gov.or else.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To Pearl: Thanks for the comment. I try to be an adult and make the usual comments and complaints, But how would you feel if every time you wrote something, Someone would respond back with their own opinions and say that you are wrong! Just the other day I wrote how my child was injured at Camden Park! Of course RoaneCo. had to write something and attack me about my decision to get angry about the situation. Yes, I agree that I should just turn the other cheek but I was raised to stand up for myself!! Why I'm a target I'll never know but I think that I have a right just like everyone else on here and to say my opinion on things whether people agree or not.
  • Posted By: Why?: EVERYONE SINS! Why is being gay the worst sin that sends you "straight" to HELL? Heterosexuals can do all the "sining" they want and still go to heaven but LGBT can't.
  • Posted By: Justme: Coal mining has been around for years and years. I'm sick of all these nuts that are griping about mining. You nuts are always griping. Maybe you need to get a life. If your so against it.. Then turn your lights out. And stop using the power. Move on, and stop taking jobs away from our miner's.
  • Posted By: Htiek: What always amazes me about people in WV is their slavish devotion to coal mining even though it is killing the planet, costs more jobs than it creates, poisons the water, destroys the mountains, scars the land, kills the snail darter, and other horrible things. Things are all so backwards in this country why dont we switch over to something that lasts and is free like the sun and wind? Even if the president said that stuff and I doubt he did and even if he did you are misquoting him or taking him out of context he is right if there is one sure way to get people to stop turning their air conditioners down to 76 it is to raise the price, just like gasoline. People we can learn to ride bikes and walk again, just like they did in the old days, that will help give us exercise and decrease the obesity rate in WV. Food is another area, the slop that people eat like MacDonalds, trans fats, regular soft drinks, anybody with half a brain knows the intelligent thing to do is tax regular soda pop.
  • Posted By: Gandalf: A tea party? Oh my! I must relay this information to my friend Alice and the Mad Hatter. Door Mouse and Rabbit too. They will be thrilled! Oh my bad, must have picked out the wrong book today. Ta Ta!
  • Posted By: Pearl: Roane Co why dont you and Jane pursue your romance elsewhere the yell is for complaints.
  • Posted By: Kris: Just throwing this out there. I'm sitting on my couch wearing sweat pants and short sleeve shirt. I'm thinking about shuting my windows and turning on my heat. Shouldn't I be turning on the air conditioner instead? It's the 2nd of July. Not saying it's global warming but it doesn't seem right. Haven't heard of any heat warning anywhere is the US so far this summer. Great for us but doesn't feel right.
  • Posted By: Kris: Hi Bonn, it is true that these cycles do occur over time. Scientists have taken core samples from the earth and the ice to show these cycles. However, none of the samples show such a dramatic change in such a short period of time. I am a smoker and I will admit that my second hand smoke can and probably will effect the lungs of a non-smoker. The tons of carbon monoxide and other pollutants that we release into our atmosphere HAS TO have an effect on our atmosphere. True story: there was a scientist that day after day after day couldn't figure out why the sky was so blue and clear. Then it struck him, there hadn't been ANY planes in the air for three days. That was 911. What you put out, is what you get back. If you put love out, you will get love back. If you put out negativity, you will get negativity back. For every action, there is a reaction whether it's good or bad. It's in our hands to do our best not to cause an adverse impact to our planet. Peace to ALL!
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello again good working coal mining people of WV this is the coal miners friend Big Earl with news of yet another hippie plot to stick there big noses further into our business now some of these people in Congress has throwed in with the tree huggers they are trying to make it so you cannot sell your house without some nut from the hippie EPA coming in and inspecting it to make sure you are green enough to suit there tastes. This so called cap and trade bill that these busy body do gooders are pushing on us will destroy our jobs and run up the electric bills so that everybody will have to live like the Waltons with 27 people under one roof just to keep warm. Now the average hippie longhair don’t care noway because they would have us all living in mud huts riding mules wearing sandals and weaving baskets to load down with califlowers and arougalas tofu and alfalfa to take up on some worthless mountaintop as an offering to there windmill god instead of having nice homes, cars, a job and cool air in the summer and heat in the winter ALL THANKS TO THE COAL MINER. Anything to bother people attracts these hippies like flies to a cowpie.
  • Posted By: to hteik: hteik has 2 comment .the global warming one was hillarous.it was june 30.he must not have gotten the same public education i did,he was taught that we had satellites in colonial time.but then again he think algoe is really smart,he doesnt know al didn,t really invent the innernet.i think fox news and conservative talk radio would do him a world of good,he,d be shocked at what he doesn,t know.
  • Posted By: Amy: Hey Keith, I must have missed that interview because I was busy clinging to my guns and religion. No, really, I did see it. It's kind of strange how people become so shocked when this stuff is introduced in the House of Reps. Obama outlined every plan he intended to get pushed through and a lot of people just didn't listen. Next time I hope people vote for the best candidate not the best slogan. Yes we can....bankrupt the nation!
  • Posted By: Patriot1: Tea Party: There will be a tea party in Grayson, Ky on July 4th. It will be held at the City Park from 4:00-6:30PM
  • Posted By: Dave: The seat belt law is no law. Its nothing but a deliberate attempt to extort money off the American people,use communist law and control the populace. THE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER VOTED ON IT, BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET YOU BELIEVE THAT IT WILL SAVE LIVES. TELL THEM TO GIVE YOU THE FIGURES ON ACCIDENTAL OPERATIONS.And if that doesn't satisfy you then why are we allowing our young brave soldiers to be killed,and for whom? WHY AREN'T THESE NEWSPAPERS BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE? Because the nations 96% are owned and controled by the WEALTHIEST.
  • Posted By: bonn: I was trying to make a point. Perhaps not in the best way. I get so discouraged seeing what is happening around us. One group of scientists call for us to spread soot on all the snow up north to absorb heat to counter the coming ice age. Another (more popular) group calls for painting our roofs white to reflect the heat that is melting our ice caps. Which group is right? Neither. Our earth is doing exactly as it has been doing all along. Cycling naturally. Did it plan it all on its own? Hardly. But no one wants to hear that. It reminds me of "chicken little" yelling "the sky is falling". Only this is not so funny-this is control. And what is even sadder is-people seem to WANT to be controlled. This earth will continue as always until one preplanned day it all comes to a screeching halt. Then a new earth will be created. I will not be caught off guard. I read The Book. I know where I will be. Do you? And do you really enjoy giving those schemers your money that much? I hope one day...
  • Posted By: Keith: A few questions for the Yell audience: Does anyone remember when Obama gave that interview in SanFran Cisco and said that he would not prevent the construction of a coal fired plant, but his policies would bankrupt anybody that tried to build one? That policy was cap and trade. I heard O say that energy prices, under his administration, would "necessairly skyrocket." Is this the hope and change you guys voted for? How will you afford your electric and gas service under this man who cares so much for the poor? Obama said once that he was not bothered that the price of gas had risen so high, just that it happened so fast. How does everyone feel about the gas price? Obama raked John Pablo McCain over the coals for suggesting health care benefits be taxed as income, now he is going to do the same thing to pay for "free" care to illegal aliens, deadbeats, etc...but union workers will be exempt from this tax. How does that make you feel if you work for a living and are not in a union? H&C
  • Posted By: Amy: Hteik, "all is well" because people like us! Give me a break. If all were well, we would not have the largest unemployment rate in 26 years. The stimulus package would prevent it from going above 8%, remember? How is Iran not our business but Honduras is? The people of Honduras have a Constitution very similar to ours and we should support the people not an extremist who is trying to take over their country. The 22nd Amendment does a great service for our nation. IF it would be reversed that would be O.K too. At the rate Obama is going W. could beat him in 2012. At least I would sleep better at night.
  • Posted By: Just Me: Wow Jane Doe, give it a rest. I really don't think God would be please with this going on and on and on...healthy banter is fine, but this is not healthy banter. Christians absolutely can and do get angry, it's what they do with that anger that counts. It doesn't matter where, when, or even IF you go to church...what matters is that you have accepted Christ into your heart and asked for forgiveness of your sins. God didn't save us to judge others, he saved us to lead others to him. I've said many times...what if the person you just yelled at, told off, or whatever showed up at your church on Sunday? Would you be proud of your behavior?
  • Posted By: Sophie: Roane County is a beautiful place. The country roads snake along past fields, farms and old homes we wish could talk. Looneyville is indeed named after the Looney family, so is Gandeeville. My father was from Roane Co. & graduated from Walton High School in the 40's. He told me tales of his school days, friends, boyish pranks, old cars and the fun they had at the 4-H camp. Spencer was a big place to them. Roane Co. gave us many war veterans and kept distant family & friends together with the annual "Roane County Reunion". I don't even know if they still have it, but we used to go. I remember seeing Sen. Robert Byrd play his fiddle there. The Black Walnut Festival in October(?) is a good time to visit Spencer. They usually have a parade, arts & crafts and a museum. You can enjoy a slice of Americana, along with a slice of homemade pie.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: The great Dale Carnegie once said "You never win an argument".Most of you know he wrote" How to Win Friends and Influence People'.Some of you should put this on your Christmas List.I think I will dust it off and revisit this old classic.
  • Posted By: cap and trade: welcome to ''before tax and tax'bill going thru the powers that be.look at your electric bills this monthe there is an enviornmental tax at 2.2cents for every kilowatt you use.can we even imagine what our electric bill will be,not to mention every thing we consume,food water ,every necessity that cant be done without.we in easternky have good reps.in washington,every one in surrounding states should put your so called reps a lot of pressure to defeat this tax and tax bill that is being pushed by a few people to make them richer and control every aspects of productive peoples lives.look at your gasbill also,you will see only a very small portion for gas but the rest in fees and taxes.look at your phone bill you will see a 100percent markup in taxes and fees.its time to put pressure on politicans to protect the citizens and not the lobiest.
  • Posted By: justanotherfly: sounds like jane doe is looking for an easy way out ie a lawsuit
  • Posted By: to bonn: i couldn,t have said it better myself.some things have to be explained like you are talking to a 5year old.but like some 5year olds that are stubborn and spoiled rotten they dont listen.wait till the cost of every thing sky rockets and they will be the first to rant and rave that nobody told them.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To my biggest fan, RoaneCo: Ummm! It's sounds to me like you have a lot of anger. You have to pick on everyone's comments! I think I speak for everyone when I say (Get a Job)!! Cause you obviously have none! You have all this free time on your hands! Why don't you spend this free time helping others instead of puttin them down! You know..WSAZ has job postings...Maybe you could find one on there!!!!I'm not a negative person. Maybe I'm just like everyone else that has a job and three kids and a lot of things to do! I get stressed out, I know that goes way over your head,You don't get stressed. But because you go to church doesn't mean you can't get angry about stuff!!LOL My father-in-law is a Deacon at my church and even he has a temper!! Look out craveontruth! Looks like RoaneCo. has found someone else to pick on!Good Luck!! Have a perfect day ( I know you will)!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Yes Craveontruth, there is a place named Looneyville.(no Jane Doe that isn't where I live) It is on Rt.36, nothing there but the Looneyville Post Office, and I am not joking. There is also a Lefthand Post Office on Rt.36, always wondered why there wasn't a Righthand also. Our County seat is located in Spencer, (middle of nowhere) which for years was only known for its State Mental Institution. (no Jane Doe this isn't my Alma mater) It was closed years ago and now a Wal-Mart is on that location. I guess the only other thing to speak of would be the Black Walnut Festival which is held in Spencer every October.
  • Posted By: bonn, the simpleton: Don't we have a smart earth? She formed herself from a dust cloud, they say and planted herself just the right distance from the sun to support the life she would create. She also filled her insides with molten heat to maintain the right temps and if that builds too much she decides to blow some out holes (volcanoes) to keep from exploding. She makes her own rain, knowing whether she needs a gentle soaking rain for her plants, or a gully washer to cleanse the filth. It pours down the mountains, into the rivers and out into the ocean which she just happened to fill with salt (her natural sanitizer). And she knows if she doesn't have ice she will over heat, but too much and she will freeze, killing her life she so carefully made. So she melts some, then as it heats up, she freezes more. All just coincidental happenings? She is brilliant! But not so smart as the humans who are making a fortune controlling the other dumb humans by convincing them THEY are causing her to do these things!!!
  • Posted By: passing by the yell: I met someone from Looneyville once. It's named that after a person's last name from what I was told.
  • Posted By: Hteik: Well it is nice to see that the war in Iraq is ending under President Obama. Who would have thought, it seems the world is backwards right now, huh? Obama gets elected, the world understands our good will, and all is well. Just like history, Republicans start wars, Democrats finish them. Hate to say we told you so but we told you so, I just get fuzzy inside thinking about all the people that love us now that hated us because of that old Bush. Another thing too, leave this Iran thing alone, that is none of our business. I dont recall anybody from Iran coming over here to help us in 1776 so why should we stick our nose in their business? When you get a strong leader like in Honduras, a good strong leader with a military background, everybody goes nuts because the guy takes things over well I support him and Obama. In fact, some people are so needed we better start now to get rid of the 22nd Amendment, it was only put in by jealous radical extremist crazy Republicans to hurt FDR.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: I don't think I have ever been to Roan County.Nothing against the good people of that neck of the woods.I did enjoy looking it up on wikipedia.Is there really a Looneyville there? If there is then I must visit!Who's with me?
  • Posted By: food for thought: 2-10 years for almost killing a child? Where are our priorities? I know they are nestled in the mountains or wait lying deep in the ocean waiting for anoother person to adopt them and claim rights to the next whale that is proclaimed Shammu or Willy. Get real people lets protest these laws that allow some cook to wanna kill his child and only have to pay his debt of 2 - 10 years. Oh and Kris your right our God won't kill a 1 yr old or a 100 yr old just do to it. He would do it for his glory and maybe take them from being around a half heartened sadistic person that would do this to a child. Oh i love the lights and the A/C and my car, but most of all I love my GOD "Jehovah God" whom i think first and foremost for all I have, then i thank a coal miner and an AEP worker and a so on and so on.
  • Posted By: Kimberly: Raising the WV Toll price? I see a lot of arguments coming from this. Where is all of this money going to? Mansion might be a good governer, but when it comes to things like this, it needs fixed. WV roads are awful and I know after all of these years, surely the toll money has added up to more than enough to fix these roads!!! What an awful awful idea!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Bonn, people like you are the very reason I have stated that I respect ones right of freedom of religion. Although I have different views, I have no issues with anyone going to church and trying to live according to their interpretation of the bible. I think that is wonderful. I also thank you Bonn for being open minded and seeing the point I was trying make. And for Anonymous on Jul 1, 2009 at 03:11 PM, no Craveontruth and I are not the same person. We do agree on some issues, and disagree on others. And when we do disagree (speaking for myself of course) we do it without anger. Also, for Bob... sorry, it isn't working. I have a two year old that comes up with better jabs than you. But I respect your right to try.
  • Posted By: Sophie: Just a few comments on current Yells: Big Earl - I just can't read you anymore because it's the same things over & over. Yeah, we're with you - there are a bunch on weed-o's coming around these days trying to shut us down for the sake of some owl...We get it. We all hate it. Roane Co/Jane -It appears Roane has been very hurt in their lifetime by family conflict involving belief. Many people get hurt because of superstition & misinterpretation and overzealousness. It has been this way since time began. I hope Roane can someday get past the hurt & retoric to work out his/her own salvation. Simple belief in Jesus Christ is where it starts, the rest as I put it, is just "gravy". Jane: I'm sorry your child was hurt. This indeed must be reported. I got hurt @ CP one time too on "The Whip". It beat me so hard against the side I had a major bruise on my hip. I strained my arms trying to keep from slamming into the side. A fun thing was not so fun. No rides for me, anymore. Not there.
  • Posted By: : I think RoaneCo. and Craveontruth is the exact same person? Who's with me?
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello good people of WV this is Big Earl and I for one am sick and tired of all these out of state know it all nosey people bothering us if it is not these smelly hippies trying to run our jobs off or rename the WVU mascot now they are calling the good citizens of WV fat. Well people I am here to tell you that this bunch at the so called CSPI and no you hippies I don’t mean the TV show calling us fat should look in the mirror they look like something off night of the living dead pasty faced scarecrows and beanpoles and what is so great about that. WV has some of the best staple foods anywhere in the world I have eaten paotatoes beans meat flour and corn meal all my life cooked in lard and I am not one bit worse off for it and can mine coal with anybody. People all the good foods we eat are natural growed in the garden or on the farm so it should even make a tofu eating hippie type happy. I am more bothered that two states beat us out in the race for the top so I tip my hat to the people of the great states of Alabama home of the best country music band ever and Mississippi but people of WV get busy we have to reclaim our title to best fed in the USA I recommend the Kentucky Fried Chicken with gravy and biscuits as a good place to start our comeback.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Actually Jane Doe, growing up I did attend church and read the bible. Being subjected to religion for many years I would not consider myself "confused" or uneducated. If one looks at organized religion with an open mind it isn't hard to see who is confused. For example, you have one bible yet there are numerous religious groups ( methodists, baptists etc...) that believe their interpretation is the only correct interpretation. This is understandable because the bible itself is very contradictive. In my opinion the the bible and organized religion is nothing more than a tool created to control the masses. Yet this tool has pitted man against man, brother against brother, state against state and country against country, not to mention the wars, death and destruction it has caused. I have witnessed in my lifetime many family fueds, broken marriages and busted churches at the hands of organized religion. I have heard the words of hate spoken by christians. I am not confused.
  • Posted By: To Fat Earl: You're losing! Ha,Ha!
  • Posted By: Kris: God does not control the weather!If so then he would be responsible for killing hundreds of innocent people every year in America alone! If that's your God, you can have it! My GOD is loving and compassionate. He would never take the life of a one year old nor a hundred year old just because he felt like creating a tornado that day or a hurricane the next. Get a brain and use it simpletons!
  • Posted By: bonn: To Jane Doe: I am afraid RoaneCo's common sense is more attractive than your comments. Read your last post at 8:58 and see if it shows the Light you are suppose to give. We are suppose to control our anger. Yes, we are forgiven, but it is not a license to keep repeating our faults. It is mercy so we can improve. Viciousness does not become a child of God. RoaneCo., may God forgive us for driving you and others away from Him with our failure to shine the Light of Love. And Jane Doe, I am the one you called ignorant just because I was showing compassion (another expectation of a Christian). It is scary about your child. But that person was not attacking your child, nor joking about it, only disapproving of your outburst. Not very attractive in anyone, especially one called to set an example for others to follow. If you must get angry, use it to accomplish something good. Christians are hated enough WITHOUT cause. Love is the answer.
  • Posted By: Bob: I think we might need to contact someone in state govt.about inspecting our amusement parks to many in the public simply dont care if kids get hurt this could have been something really really bad but I guess there is always a few who would crack jokes at anything even a child getting injured.
  • Posted By: cap and trade bill: you wont hear on liberal obama mania news reports whats in the cap and tax bill.only conservate talk radio and conservative news are telling the contents of this country destroying bill.liberal dont want you to be informed,it would be to dangerous for their so called news networks.did you know that,as i somewhat understand it,that every house in the country will have to be at gov.standards before it can be sold,they will be allowed to change therules in mid stream if they want.even if you dont like conservative news,remember only a well informed person can try to stop tyranny.look for facts,have you heard 1 liberal news tell you whats in this bill thats detrimental to this country and freedom.i challenge wsaz to look up whats in this bill and report accuratly whats in it.i dont think thats going to happen.
  • Posted By: food for thought: AMEN Bonn I could never have said it any better, being a Boone county coal miner and all. We do no get a very well reputation anyway.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: RoaneCo.can hurt but often the truth does hurt.I support RoaneCo.To Jane Doe,I believe RoaneCo.does know quite a bit about Christianity and is not confused at all.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: Thank you everyone for your support!!You know RoaneCo. Nobody is perfect, That goes for Christians too! Are we allowed to get mad??Yes! But are we forgiven everyday? Yes!Obviously you don't know much about Christianity! That's why you critize so much!!You're confused!! We are not perfect! I guess you are!!
  • Posted By: VOTE NO ON CAP AND TRADE: I know its a repost but i think its Worthy 'Liberty Or Tyranny?' House Passes Cap-And-Trade Republicans Warn Bill Gives Federal Government 'Virtual Control' Over 'Every Aspect Of The Lives Of The American People. Thank the Dumbocratic controled house as it will raise the average consumers power bill $175.00 This on top of the energy companies already asking for an inctrase will put such a burden on the American people that only the wealthy will survive.Please write or call our Senators they are the only life line we have left and ask them to VOTE NO on cap and trade. Republicans were overwhelmingly against the measure, arguing it would destroy jobs in the midst of a recession while burdening consumers with a new tax in the form of higher energy costs.And there was plenty to work on in a House-passed measure that pointed toward higher electricity bills for the middle class.Budget Office and the other from the Environmental Protection Agency — that suggested average increases would be $175.00 a year.
  • Posted By: cap and trade survey: against cap and tax,85percent.people who work and are productive.15percent for cap and tax,,,people who work for government or live off the fat of the land and dont mind other people being taxed into poverty....
  • Posted By: : If new drivers would slow down and actually pay attention to what they are doing, then maybe WV would'nt have these new laws for teenage drivers. Personally myself I believe that all states should have this law. It would make the roads a little safer to drive on.
  • Posted By: bonn: About global warming- our temperature is (and always has been) constantly changing. GOD controls it. Anyone who thinks we can are puffing themselves up bigger than we are.Are we suppose to believe we are responsible for the Ice Age thawing that is suppose to have happened way back when as well? How did that happen? Certainly not carbon emissions. Use some common sense and realize people are using this to line their pockets and gain support for their pet projects. I know- you don't want to hear this, but it is not realistic. Don't let America be controlled with this, PLEASE!! Let us remain free!
  • Posted By: Bob: Dont worry Jane Doe I have notice RoaneCOs posts are generally always on the rude side I am sorry to hear about your daughter.
  • Posted By: Just wondering: the 3 people that was killed on alt rt 10. 2 being st. joe's students. Did they ever release the cause of the accident?
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: I do care about the safety of our children Anonymous on Jun 30, 2009 at 09:01 AM, no matter where they are or what they are doing. Our children are our future. What I don't care for is someone like Jane Doe on here week after week preaching her little sermons all the while calling people ignorant and showing her hostility toward others. It has always amazed me how most christians will belittle someone else but the minute you catch them being unchristian like they always come up with the old "we christians ain't perfect". Well I know they are not, but by golly they are the first to judge everyone else. These hyporcitical self proclaimed christians are one of the reasons I turned away from organized religion years ago. I just don't agree with these people shoving religion on everyone else. I respect Jane Does right to religion and I would even fight for her to keep that right, but she, like so many others need to keep their religion in their church and their home.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Well hello again good working coal mining families in WV this is Big Earl and I for one am very disappointed that this cap and trade bill got passed into law the other day no thanks to our good representatives from WV. People all I can say is get a woodpile and a bunch of cow chips because your electric is going to get real expensive real quick. These hippies has run up to Washington DC and boo hooed to them tree huggers and longhairs in the EPA until they got even worse done to our jobs but then again what do you expect from a bunch that has a leaf from a dope plant on there sign like the EPA does if you don’t believe me look on this very website I seen a picture of it. Birds of a feather flock together that’s why the good working people were kept out and not allowed to talk at that hearing and the hippies let in. People these hippies has slandered our great state and coal miners first they bring in professor moonbeam from NASA to insult us then he tucks his tail and runs back to NASA and wont debate Mr. DB then they attack our state university mascot the WV mountaineer. Well people I Big Earl have a solution to this lets call WV the “Ivory Soap State,” make our mascot a bathtub that’s a sure fire way to get rid of these smelly hippies and longhairs and keep them out forever.
  • Posted By: ME: We christians are most always judged by our actions and that is to be expected since we are not perfect in any way. We all make mistakes every day,we get angry,we say things we shouldn't and act out our frustrations sometimes to those closest to us and our friends. We try to do better and ask forgiveness when we do stumble from our christian path. Actions speak louder than words at times, good or bad. Yes we adults act like children at times and children try to act like adults all too soon. We never know who we are influenceing with our actions and words so we need to always try to act,say and do what is right. As long as we are on this earth we will stumble but we should strive to be the best we can be and treat people with love and respect no matter how we are treated. I have turned the cheek many times and been slapped alot and will keep on doing it as long as I breath. My time will come soon enough to be judged as to the way I have lived and treated people.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: I love people on the Yell!!! They give me a chance to laugh everyday. Thanks guys!!
  • Posted By: just looking: UMMMM do you people think that christians are perfect??? Do you think we dont get angry?? Only one person is perfect and that is Jesus Christ...And if a christian says they are perfect, then they arnt a very good christian. We all have faults. Alot of you people cant wait to get up and look at the faults of others and criticize what they believe in....
  • Posted By: Patriot1: Tea Party. There will be a "Tea Party" July 4th from 4:00-6:30 PM at the City Park in Grayson,Ky
  • Posted By: Donna: Please! enough of Michael Jackson. He died, now he will appear before God and face his punishment for his sins against children. He was a morally bankrupt person who the media has presented as an icon. It's no wonder children are so messed up today,too much TV and not enough parenting. You too, are responsible for making him appear as a person to be looked up to. He and others in entertainment and sports are not what the children need, they need moral examples to look up to, please stop the glorification of immoral and indecent individuals.
  • Posted By: food for thought: To those of you telling me to watch out for Fox news, please go back and read carefully what I said about the media and the government. I thank each of you for your information. I am not out to attack anyone whether acclaimed or the average joe. I just know what I have read from reports and from different sites. This information is what our scientists, meteorologists and so forth use in reference to report the records of weather and temperatures. Again thank each of you, and at last Fox news was the channel the fine people at our local (American made) dealership had channeled on the tube, personally I just watch WSAZ, at the local level.
  • Posted By: : Roane Co., why are you not concerned about the safety of small children at amusement parks?
  • Posted By: Htiek: Right on Kris you tell em about Fox News. Everyone that watches knows that the dependable networks are ABF, Anyone But Fox. I am just like everyone else in the know, they lie all the time but please dont press me to cite anything specific as I am having coffee right now. I am new to your side, so pardon me if I get something confused. Those photographs of the ice caps are proof positive as far as I am concerned, these flat earth types that dont believe global warming should compare them to the satellite picutres from the colonial period and over the years since for comparison purposes. I once heard the hottest year on record was in the 1930s but what does that prove. And before one of you know it alls talks about Al Gore riding everywhere in a private plane and having such a huge house and running a company that profits from selling carbon credits, some people in life earn their special privileges simply by showing up and enlightening the rest of us, so there.
  • Posted By: polar ice caps: the weather is always changing.sometime it freezes sometimes it melts,thats gods doings,not mans.wasnt it the great mind of ted danson many years ago that explaind that in 15 or 20 years that the oceans were going to raise so many feet that it would destroy and overflo inward to apolipicate level.i guess the people that live on these coast lines dont know they are under water.we americans are so silly.let me explain what a great creator said,it rains but the oceans are never full.ice melts but the oceans never overflo.i think i,ll believe him instead of a.gore or ted danzen.p.b.s last week on a travel show,,i think,,,,the guide said the glacier there had been melting 150years.that was certainly before the industrial revolution.as for fox,world net daily,newsmax,etc.the liberal press has lost it monolopy on liberal so called news.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: After you finish showing your true colors, go back and read my post again Jane Doe. Better yet let me cut and paste it for you. "I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are." And just for the record, I would never "make fun" of a child, but don't think for one second that I won't point out an adult being hypocritical. Are you not the same Jane Doe that three weeks ago was preaching about God, then in the same breath calling someone "IGNORANT"? So let me say it one more time, I hope your little girl is ok. As for you, thank you for proving once again how kind, loving, patient and understanding some of you fine christians can be.
  • Posted By: Kris: This respectfully goes out to "food for thought" for what they said about fox news and global warming.FOX has great movies and tv shows but their view when it comes to the "news" is so far on the "right" way of thinking that it totally obscures reality in their opions of the subject at hand. They'll twist their views to make sure that it is opposite of "liberals" or people on the "left" and how they feel about the subject.Asf or global warming, we have actual time lapsed pictures of the polar caps melting at an alarming rate. You can actually see it happening. If things are cooling down, then why are the polar caps and icebergs melting at an alarming rate? The evidence is right in front of our faces. I sure do hope you're right because if I am, our planet is doomed. Sincerely, Kris
  • Posted By: Jethro: WHATS WRONG WITH YOU ALL UPDATE THE YELL!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!
  • Posted By: Keith: Never thought I'd sit around and miss Bush...well the wrecking ball has appointed a racist to the supreme court, one that is inept and incompetent too. Did you notice her latest ruling was overturned today? The economy is not getting better, those of you out of work have my sympathy because this clown is not doing anything to make it better. He never held a real job, never ran a business, just a rabble rouser and agitator. How do you feel about cap and trade energy tax? All over a phony problem that doesnt even exist; WV will wither away to nothing but hey we can all get jobs in the windmill factory, cant we? How do you feel about having your health benefits taxed to pay for Obamacare? How's the hope and change working out for everyone? What do you think card check is going to do the economy? Check out an article about Obama the African Colonialist on the American Thinker Website, dated June 25th. It explains him to a "T." Obama is a wrecking ball, and he's gonna roll over everyone.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Well hello again good working coal miners of WV this is Big Earl and people I have come to the conclusion that we need some friends in Washington DC that has got some clout. Some people up there has got big names but nobody apparently listens to, that is if they show up at all in court to help you out, those who are sick are excepted. Then there are some people in Charleston who should be in Washington who shall remain unnamed because nobody in Gov. Joes office asked me to say that. But remember who had that bunch from FEMA down here handing out checks before two weeks after the flood water hit and figure out who has clout. You people that went up for the hearing last week should be thanked but the good people never got to say a word but these hippies did, they are apparently now running around the creek with microscopes looking for fish that cant be seen with the eye, something called a microbe, now they are blaming the coal miner for killing off this worthless animal and I sincerely hope Captain D or old Long John will never put some slop like that on my plate when I want good seafood. If you dont see it it cant be of no good use anyway, sort of like a certain US senator with a big rich name who was nowhere to be seen last week.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To RoaneCo. How dare you critize my comment. This isn't just some fun arguement!! My child is hurt! Do you think that's funny? Do me a favor, Next time I write about my kids, Don't comment! I hope you don't have any kids because you don't see the harm and worry in my comment, You just want to fight and make fun of someone!! This is really serious!! I don't see the humor!!!
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Did any of you people see those PETA nuts on the TV 3 news last night boo hooing about having to tie there dogs up hello again working people of WV this is Big Earl and I don’t know about you but I always thought it was rude and inconsiderate and just being a bad neighbor to let your dogs run wild all over the neighborhood digging up peoples backyards rooting around in garbage cans and doing there business all over the place. Have any of you people in Huntington ever lost a chicken to a wild dog. Even these back to nature types and hippies up here in Boone County tie up there dog to guard there dope patches but they don’t have no sense anyway if they aint going to Washington DC to try and rook us out of our jobs by carrying signs and yelling about some invisible fish that is no good to anybody they are screaming about the coal miner killing polar bears and other animals that don’t even live here. Apparently this bunch had the bright idea to go down to the park on Sunday down in Huntington when people was out with there families trying to walk around and enjoy things and they chained themselves to trees with real dog chains trying to get people to sign a protest petition to of all people a mayor named Wolf now I don’t know about you but that mayor better forget the beware of dog sign he needs to put a beware of the PETA nut sign up in that park.
  • Posted By: The Seeker: @food for thought: It is indeed important to check facts, and it heartens me to see that you're of the type that actively seeks them (even thought I fall on the side of the debate that believes in climate change, as it has solid science behind it). However, I caution you on taking anything from FOX news at face value. This is an organization that in 2000 won a case in Florida appeals court in which the court ruled that FOX has no obligation to tell the truth to it's viewers, and can misinform the public under the first amendment. This is also an organization that has been proven to have an agenda, and frames every bit of it's coverage to favor one political party over the other. My advice is to seek out less obviously biased news sources, especially in cases such as global warming, which is an issue that transcends political parties and affects every being on the planet.
  • Posted By: Hugh: Hey WVa. Checkin out the YELL. Kind of quiet today. Enjoyed my visit there. Met John Henry at the Big Ben Tunnel,saw the big bridge. Stood at Hawk's Nest and viewed the scenery. If I wasn't so old and crippled, I'd bungee jump from the New River Gorge Bridge. Have folks who live in the Talcott area and some around Hinton. Well won't take much of your time today. Just wanted to check in.
  • Posted By: what is foor for thought?: foor?? for thought, you do know Bush made those he commissioned to study it alter their reports when he found out it supported global warming, don't you? Anyone who just sees pictures of the ice caps 30 years ago and now would have to be mentally handicapped not to know there's global warming, the only thing that's possible to debate is the cause of it. Wonder why Fox didn't mention the Bush fiasco? Well I don't really wonder.
  • Posted By: more p.c at wsaz: gays in usa sounds like it was written by a gay person,so it was printed.it was,nt written by a gay person.it was a second thought,after i commented on other sins,such as adultry,but plainly written by a heterosexual person.it was not printed because im straight and not gay.so goes our country and freedom.
  • Posted By: Lou Ann: Ive had a similar bad experience at camden park several years ago. Havent went back since. The pricing is just another deterrent to doing business locally. I love this area but am very discouraged by the lack of pride in our appearance in several of our towns, the prices of doing business, the attitude towards the customer , the lack of merchandise. I could go on. We definately are not tourist friendly in the great ohio valley area.
  • Posted By: foor for thought: Looks like my comment on June 24th may be right. I have done some reading about this Global warming fad the government is putting on. I was sitting in a local car dealership and FOX news was reporting on the government sitting or "burying" studies by two of the highest ranking EPA officials contradicting this myth. Some of the comments from their studies proves the Global temperature if anything has decreased. Although, you should be skeptical about anything the media reports especially when it involves the government these are facts that have been recorded over time. I ask how come when these bozos as Dr. Hansen whom is from NASA(which has done innumerable amounts of damage to our air with their testing) never mention facts as these when trying to prove things they are claiming is a fact. People we in America have became lazy in seeking the truth, I am not disputing anything these scientists and the government tells us, but as we learned in elementary school check facts of both sides.
  • Posted By: gays in u.s.a.: another reflection on gays.if you think god doesn,t care about you because you,re gay ,he must love you more than you can comprehend,if not you could have been born ina muslim country.islam has no homosexuals ,they are not rehabilitate,just beheaded.as a loving and compassionate god says"GO AND SIN NO MORE".that doesnt mean just you it means all of us.yes god allows you to choose,he must really care.
  • Posted By: City of Milton: I'm glad that the City of Milton has so much money to spend and that they spend it wisely. Every time I drive through town on a nice day it never fails that someone is washing their personal vehicle at the VFD. Good to see that they budget personal car washes into the city budget. I think I'll stop in there today and see if I can wash my car as well...should be a nice day!
  • Posted By: Valorie: About four weeks ago, I sent a letter to Camden Park with a friendly suggestion to open the park to the casual visitor again. As of today, I still haven't had a response from them. There used to be a small fee for admission to anyone who just wanted to visit. Once inside the park, a visitor could buy a corn dog or pay to play a few games or ride a few rides. Now people have to pay a full admission price for all day rides, even when they don't plan to stay all day. A lot of people are grandparents who just want to watch their grandchildren ride for an hour or two. Some are young parents with small children who tire easily. As empty nesters, my husband and I would like to drop by to get a bite to eat, play some games or just walk around. Everyone I have spoken to said they would visit Camden Park a whole lot more if they didn't have to pay the full admission price. I challenge everyone to contact Camden Park and ask them to give the people a choice!
  • Posted By: to gay question: god is not a cruel and unfair god.we all have our faults.is homosuxality a bigger sin than adultry,pornography,lying,stealing, and the list goes on.the clue to these behaviors is wanting to make our lives better.we cant blame anyone but ourselves for what we do.if anyone doesnt change its what they want to do.but as long as it doesnt affect me thats between you and god.but it is wrong,just as cheating on your spouse is sin.would we tell the adulterer that its not sin and not to try being a better person,i think not.celibacy would be better than the same old behavior.these have been struggle since creation.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Losing your religion Jane Doe? What happened to "turn the other cheek"? I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are. But next time you read of someone else being "furious" or commenting on their personal issues, maybe you should keep your bible quotes to yourself.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: I recently went with my church and my family to Camden Park this past weekend. Me and my 6 year old daughter rode the Spider, We thought it was going to be lots of fun, we were wrong! It was a nightmare! It went on for 10 minutes and was going way too fast! My daughter was terrified and was screaming! I was furious when the man that helped us off asked if she was okay and I said what do you think and he laughed!! I have rode this ride for many years and loved it, But this time I could tell it was different! But then it gets worse, A friend of mine that stayed at the park longer than us informed me that after we left, The spider closed down and said they had crossed wires and the ride was malfunctioning!!! My daughter can't hardly walk today and has a four inch bruise down her back! I'm taking her to the doctor in the morning. If there is something seriously wrong, I will be speaking to the owner and this situation will be takin care of!!!!!
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