Trying To Keep Century Aluminum Open
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RAVENSWOOD, W.Va. (AP) - State and federal officials and top executives from Century Aluminum met in private Saturday to try to figure out a way to keep the company's Ravenswood plant open and spare nearly 700 jobs.

Governor Joe Manchin, Senator Jay Rockefeller, U.S. Congresswoman Shelley Moore Capito and other leaders joined Century Aluminum chief executive officer Logan Kruger and union officials in a three-hour-long private meeting at the plant.

Participants would not reveal what was discussed, but said many areas were covered.

Congresswoman Capito told reporters, "The bottom line is it's a lot of people's lives and communities and it's important to all of us to pull as hard as we we can together to keep those human faces, those families at a point where they can live and prosper in West Virginia."

The Monterey, California-based company shut down one production line at the plant in December. It warned that the entire facility may close February 15th if the slumping price of aluminum didn't stabilize.

Manchin has said tax breaks or other aid may be needed to keep the plant's doors open.
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Posted by: Eli on Jan 19, 2009 at 03:08 PM
I care about the jobs at Century, but I don't know how people can say "its fine with me if they raise everyones electric bill". We have a lot of people on fixed incomes, a lot of people on minimum wage and an increase in their power bill whether it be $5 or $25 could be devastating. If their electricity is shut off because they can't pay their bill, will Century or one of its employees pay the bill? Those who say I'll take a pay cut to have a job, do they work here, I don't recall seeing a name? If they do work here, and give up a 12.41% cut in pay today to keep their job, what are they going to be willing to give up on May 31 when the contract expires? To answer any questions, I have been laid off, once for 16 months, once for 18 months, locked out for 20 months. Yes I'm one of those old men and I thank God for the old men before me who fought to get our wages and benefits where they are today. Some of you probably think the company gave you these things because they are nice guys.
Posted by: to from complainers on Jan 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I do not know what AEP rep you talked to but they are very much mistaken and have given you some faulty information.We use coal to produce electricity the more demand the more coal it takes to meet that demand,if the demand falls then it takes less coal and since it is winter we operate at near capacity most of the time and many times less demand is a welcome sight for it make the wear and tear or the grid less damaging.If century were to close it would not raise the consumers bill it will just lower the demand and we will burn less coal which cuts our cost to produce power which in turn does cut our profit but no way does it put us into a situation of having to raise customers bills to cover the cost of the negative profit.We really wish it worked that way but it doesn't.If it did you would have a set price every month if you used it or not and every time someones electric was shut off your price would go up to cover their bill.I hope you can see where this would lead
Posted by: Shut it down on Jan 16, 2009 at 07:34 PM
Well looks like there may be desention in the ranks as I figured there was.You will find the ones that have worked there for a # of years and been thru the strikes and closings and the sacb replacements will not want to take a cut.With all the news coming about layoffs every where over 70000 nation wide today alone it makes 700 a pretty insignificant # so do the area a favor and close the place if the sister compamies wont help then why should the residents of Wva really care about Century they showed a profit of something like 123 million for the 3rd qtr of 08 and are in the process of reworking 1 of the potlines so stop the work and operate at a reduced production level until the market picks up.When you dont have anything coming in you cut the outlays to survive not thereaten your workers with a shut down to get concessions and this is why the older workers will not take a cut they know the score
Posted by: Raven on Jan 16, 2009 at 02:06 PM
What saddens me most is that Century at Ravenswood was and still is the Heart of the Corporation as a whole.The Hard Work-Long Hours-and Profits Made by its employees for the board of directors allowed Century to Purchase the plant in Hawesville KY, also the Purchase of 1/2 the Smelter at Mt Holly and Last But Not Least the Funding for the new Smelter in Iceland. Its A Shame when this plant is suffering the rest are not asked to help out by taking consessions across the board-After All We Are All One Company are we not.We At Ravenswood didnt grumble when you made these moves or purchases because it was best for the company as a whole. So know when Ravenswood needs a helping hand Why Are The other plants or the Board its self Not Asked to help their sister plant??????? We Were There When You needed Us to step up to long overtime hours so know where are the rest of you when your brothers in harms way need a little help.
Posted by: To complainers on Jan 16, 2009 at 09:09 AM
Yes, my husband works there too and has for close to 20 years. No, most of the employees are not willing to take a pay cut. He hasn't spoke to one person that he works with that say they will be willing to do this. I know for a fact, that the company has asked the union workers to take a cut of 12.41%. Do the math - for the employee that makes $18.00/hr, that is a $2.23 an hour/$89.20 a week/$356.80 a month/$4,281.60 a year pay cut. I know in the close to 20 years that my husband has been employeed there, even when times have been great, the company has NEVER offered to give them an hourly increase of $2.23/hour or no where even close. If it comes to this, I will be safe to say that my husband's former employer will be Century Aluminum.
Posted by: from: to complainers on Jan 15, 2009 at 02:21 PM
okay first off, my husband works there! and yes they are going to cut wages and yes i would be willing for him to take a pay cut rather than lose his job. and he feels the same way and he says that everyone he works with states they are willing to have cut wages.... and yes i did do research. An aep rep. stated that if they lose century, then other consumers would have to make up for the loss wages..MEANING we as paying customers will have an increase in our power bill. IM not stupid and I do know what im talking about. And do not EVEN say anything about the workers there, some may act the way you're speaking of, but all people arent selfish and most are willing to work with what they have! Maybe you should do some research! My husband is not a complainer and if it closes then well we'll have to work with that...but until then we'll do what it takes for him to keep his job! God will handle the rest!
Posted by: Wife of Century Aluminum Employee on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM
To ALL the negative posts on here (for what it's worth). Why don't each of you come down and work in these men and womens' shoes for just one day. Why do you think that they can't keep employees? The work is extremely hard and the pay is good, but not the best. If they would take a couple million from each of the "big wigs" salaries, that would make a huge difference in the deficit.
Posted by: LOST CAUSE ??????? on Jan 14, 2009 at 06:54 PM
Sorry to be negative but do the math it cost them 31 million a month to operate with 9 million for power.To offset the power bill alone they would have to raise every WVa customer of AEP $21 a month and with it being winter and everybodies bill already high many will not be able to afford the extra and I wonder what will happen when the people cant pay, will their electric be shut off and if so will Century help them I doubt it since they already need help.Another thing this was figured with other companies in wva that probably wont be asked to help and if you take them out the monthly rate for just residential customers goes to $ 25 a month.So there will have to be more concessions such as tax breaks which in the long run will wreck the whole states budget and the workers will have to except pay cuts and proably no future raises until the market comes back if it ever does and how long can they wait for that to happen before closure may be the only option left Its bad all over and sad
Posted by: For to complainers on Jan 14, 2009 at 06:14 PM
You must have recieved some bad info but lets do a little figuring here,You say $5 well that has to be a bad figure if you figure every house in Mason Jackson and Putman counties which is probably some where around lets say 30000 homes that only equals $150000 which isnt much of a help towards 9 million a month bill it would help more if the workers would take a $2 an hour cut that would equal $224000 but I'll bet the workers would not even consider that they would rather have no job than to take a pay cut and I have heard many of them say as much so why would anyone want to help someone that dont want to help theirself see they have the same mentality that Foote Mineral had and we know what happened there and I'll bet if the deal was reversed they would be the first to complain thats just the way they are
Posted by: Ripley Wife on Jan 14, 2009 at 05:42 PM
To the workers at century aluminum. You were given an info sheet from the USW regarding the jan 09 and 10th meetings. It doesn't surprise me that the union would add so many comments and info to try & persuade you to not take concessions. The back page that shows all of the salaries and bonuses for the top executives means absolutely nothing at this time. It amazes me, because I know if any of these union leaders had the degrees and education needed to fill an executive position, they would not be turning down that kind of salary or bonus. If we want to save jobs at this plant, we have got to stop trying to play games and we need to realize this is due to the economy and not a company ploy. My goodness, look at all of the other metal companies who have laid off thousands. I AM FOR UNION, but I am telling you, why listen to these stuborn old men who are our union leaders when they already have worked against you to get 12 hour shifts, why would they care if you lose your jobs.
Posted by: Het to complainers on Jan 14, 2009 at 05:41 PM
Are you stupid or what just because Century would close it would not make peoples bills go up yes aep's profits would fall but unlike Century they are able to better manage the business the just produce less they will not lose they just dont make as much you need to do a little research on how electricity is regulated and used with your logic if they raised the cost of electric for every business that closed no one would be able to afford any power at all
Posted by: To Amy on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:46 AM
First of all, how much do you think the workers at Century make? NO Where Near $25!! I bet when your dad worked there you were not complaining on the salary money he brought home and spoiled you on. And it amazes me that you just assume the workers would not be willing to do their part to keep their company running! You call Ravenswood a ghost town, I don't live there,but I have respect that this so called ghost town that you care nothing about, is where people live, their children go to school and attend church together. And this affects Ripley and many,other communities. Instead of speaking of something you know nothing about, how about just saying " I hope no matter what these families and towns can make it" My husband has worked at Century for 10 yrs and we have no toys. We have a house payment, 2 vehicles and are raising 3 kids.We have no ATV's,no boats, no big screen tv,etc.I also work.This is not to say that we are not very thankful for what we have but I felt I had to speak
Posted by: To: Complainers on Jan 14, 2009 at 08:36 AM
You are exactly right - it's common sense. If Century closes, we as residential customers and other small businesses, will see our electric bills double if not triple. All people see is that if Century gets a cut, then we are all going to have to pay. WAKE UP people, wouldn't you rather AEP give this company a break with their bill and up our bill a little bit, than not give them any break and then the plant closes and our bills skyrocket. Common sense, think about it.
Posted by: Great Idea on Jan 13, 2009 at 06:42 PM
I think it is a good idea that AEP raise other peoples rates so these companies can continue to operate.The company I work for is going to try the same thing if it works for Century and I hope it works they are going to get the governor and senators to see if maybe AEP and Ashland Oil will raise the customers bills to cover their cost so they can keep their 400 people working without having to cut hrs or pay or layoff or even close down since the paving industry has gone to the dogs.This is the american way pass on the bills to the little guy and it works better than cutting wages for me since I work hard for my pay and I dont use AEP so it wont effect me at all.Glad everybody understands and other than a few here are in favor of this hope your bills dont go to high though cause this will probably develope into a trend with companies in the future
Posted by: Not paying on Jan 13, 2009 at 06:18 PM
No I understand completly how much they spend on electricity see I live real close and the place is lit up like a city and management has everything to do with it they knew the price was falling and the cost to have their raw materials barged in was rising maybe that explains why if they were shutting down a pot line they would have 25 barges of powdered alum. laying in the fleet and paying demerge and fleeting of $275 a day per barge for it to lay there and the no less than 70 1000 watt bulbs that burn at the river dock 24/7 whether they are working there or not.And you are right about 1 thing I really dont care if it stays open or closes there are many ways they can cut back but why would they if someone else will pick up the bill if they can cry about it and just this last summer aluminum was at an all time high what happened to the profits from the up market.Tell me if your electric bill is to high do you cut back or do you expect you neighbor to chip in and pay it
Posted by: Amy on Jan 13, 2009 at 02:44 PM
Ravenswood has been so smug for all these years with having Kaiser/RAC/Century that now what will you do? That's the only thing that town has going for it. It's already a ghost town over there. I don't want to see it close, but my father worked there and I saw how the Union did things and how workers were always wanting more, more, more, MORE. Good God how much is enough for you all? Yeah you shouldn't have to take a pay cut, but guess what? In order to keep your jobs you just may have to. Learn what it's like to work for less than 25-55 bucks an hour and make it on that. So you may have to sell some of your toys...should have known that the good times wouldn't last forever.
Posted by: To Complainers. on Jan 13, 2009 at 02:27 PM
To All you People who are making comments about AEP raising your electric bills: If AEP loses Century your bill will go up even higher!! It's common sense. They either cut Century's power bill and we make up for it...OR....Century closes and we make up for it even more! You all need to stop complaining about a $5 increase, I'd rather pay the $5 than have 600 people lose their jobs! You better hope and pray that they keep it open or your bill will double! And there are ways to conserve energy. People these days are just too spoiled and too selfish to care about others....
Posted by: To: Not Paying on Jan 13, 2009 at 09:40 AM
I don't think you understand or care to understand how much money Century Aluminum pays out to AEP in energy costs per month. Needless to say, it's probably more than what most of us can even fathom. It's just like the oil companies - energy costs are outrageous for no reason, only because they are allowed to be. And another thing I don't think you understand or care to understand is that low aluminum prices is not a reflection on how this plant has been managed. Century Aluminum has no control over the aluminum prices. If they did, I'm sure that the problem at hand would cease to exist. I think that people need to look at the "Big Picture" before voicing their opinions such as dead town, poor management, etc.
Posted by: To Dead Town on Jan 12, 2009 at 10:16 PM
I am glad to see people are now discussing this very important issue. The only post I feel is worthless is dead town. Why would you even take the time to write that comment. Even if you are bitter or angry about everything that is happening, why would that be your thoughts and comments! Obviously you don't have a family you are supporting in this community or you think that you could live somewhere else and do better. Well since you are not being supportive, I say go. Lets see if you do any better in any other state the way the economy is today. Oh, and if you do have a wife and kids, I hope you say more positive things to them then your comment here.
Posted by: Not paying on Jan 12, 2009 at 07:47 PM
I for 1 and 200 others and counting that are not paying any kind of increase to aep to offset Century's power bill.My companies business is slow too and my hours have been cut but I don't feel as if anyone should have to pay more for their utilities just so my company can continue to operate. If something like this starts happening every company in the country will be trying it.Things are tough all over but why should we have to pay if these companies cant manage their businesses,Maybe my banker will send my car payment to someone else to pay if my company shuts down but I dont look for it to happen but if the nearly 700 century workers will just chip in 70 cents apiece I wont have to worry about it.Its the least they could do maybe I'll call the politicians and see if they will okay this idea
Posted by: Wife of an Employee on Jan 12, 2009 at 01:27 PM
My husband has close to 15 years at Century and I know firsthand how hard he works every day at his job. He comes home looking like someone that has been dipped into black powder from head to toe. His physician just told him last week, that eventhough he wears a resperator, he was surprised that he doesn't have respiratory issues all the time. These are guys that pour their heart and souls into this plant. Yes, they make decent wages and have excellent insurance, but they deserve it. In actuality, they deserve alot more than what they have. Just as an earlier post stated - I hope these company officials don't bite the hands that feed them. If it weren't for these hard working men and women in the production aspect of the Ravenswood plant, these company officials wouldn't be bringing home the 6 digit (or more) annual incomes that they have the luxury of doing. I pray that something can be worked out without taking anything from these employees.
Posted by: Kathleen on Jan 12, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Will the Deal AEP made with them be passed onto comsumers? Will we have to pay more due to the AEP deal with them? I don't the plant to close but I am paying to much now in heating and power.
Posted by: Lee on Jan 12, 2009 at 09:42 AM
Lets go to congress and ask for a bailout. If GM, Ford, Chrysler deserve a bail out so does every other business. How much does Century contribute to the political well being....hum hum hum..........Not much or they could be "bailed out"
Posted by: RoaneCo. on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:05 AM
I was in a situation once where my employer wanted concessions of wages and benefits that amounted to 40% of my income. Now my question was, is my cost of utilites, mortage, insurance, groceries going to drop 40%? Look at AEP, what did they want to do to help? Give Century a break on the electric bill, but pass the loss on to the other customes. AEP wasn't going to lose anything was they! Do you think Exxon/Mobil is going to drop the price of oil to help? Is Kroger going to drop the price of bread and milk? Why is it that it is always the middle class working people that have to give concessions? Why can't Big Oil and the ulility companies help? It isn't like they aren't making record profits.
Posted by: Dead Town on Jan 12, 2009 at 06:13 AM
Ravenswood is a dying town. For that matter...the ONLY thing keeping Ripley's head above water is Wal-Mart. Let these pathetic money drains go down in flames. Who cares? Wv is a third world state anyways.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 11, 2009 at 07:12 PM
Im a second generation employee with only 3 years senority. I will be laid off Feb 15th i know its comming.They will ask us for concesions and even though i will be laid off i look forward to returning to Century when the 4th Potline is restarted. Look People a job Paying a little less Money is better than no job at all.Do us all a favor and think deep in your soul for Century will not return if its allowed to fail.This will not only effect us but the surrounding areas. Your home wont be worth the dirt you have built it on. Anyway Prayers to all involved Im staying optimistic that we can pull through this mess.
Posted by: to roane co on Jan 11, 2009 at 04:17 PM
Bet they were too and should be,If not then it will be closed what needs to be remembered here is a lower paying job is better than no job at all.If the employees dont think so they need to take a ride to Pittsburg and see the steel mills setting empty American bridge us to employ 10000 people in 1 factory and now less than 100 people work in the place and the workers attitude is the reason that happened not agreeing to a wage concession in a down market lets just hope the same thing dont happen here but when there is no demand for your product you have to make adjustments and if not your not in business long.I really dont think this is just a ploy by the company to gain concessions from the workers and I dont think I would take the chance to see but thats up to the men and the union
Posted by: Randy on Jan 11, 2009 at 03:44 PM
i also hope as everyone does this plant stays open. a lot of hardworking people work here and want mothing more than to make a life for their families. but there is also a majority here who has a mentality that the union runs this place and that the company will give in to them because they or that palnt cant be replaced.i know, i worked there for ten years, and was a third generation employee. things are not as they were in the seventies, and the markets the plant are engaged in are a lot more competitive.i believe that things will work out for the plant, and this isnt the first time it has been on the brink of closing but im sure it is the closest it has came.when this does all settle out, i would suggest all involved at the highest levels, union and salary remember this close call and learn to work together in the future. that plant has the potential to be highly productive. anyone who works or has worked there knows what i mean.
Posted by: Raven on Jan 11, 2009 at 02:44 PM
“Century has a significant economic impact on the West Virginia economy, accounting for a total of nearly 1,600 jobs – 667 directly with Century and 910 jobs with other West Virginia businesses – and nearly $580 million in business volume in 2007,” according to Randy Childs, research assistant professor in the WVU Bureau of Business and Economic Research and lead author of the report. Childs indicated that the operation of Century was also associated with $5.9 million in assorted state taxes, including personal income, consumer sales, use, corporate net income and business franchise taxes. curtailment of the operation would be particularly hard on the Jackson County economy where Century and Alcan are located. He also said American Electric Power’s West Virginia-based generation plants and the coal industry would also feel the impacts of reductions or closure since aluminum smelters use significant amounts of electricity
Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 11, 2009 at 02:09 PM
What I hope everyone remembers is that it is not just century. it is Alcan, and other plants and businesses in the millwood and ravenswood areas that their busnesses depend on century. alcan gets their material from century, they were once just one plant. so there would be another 700 jobs. Look at any business in Millwood, and they will all say that they are worried about their business because of Century. I know this because our family is one of them. My husbands job is to prepare materials for the potrooms, and if century goes, so does his job. So before everyone goes running down the "union", remember that it isn't just the "union" who will be out of a job. I would like to thank all the CEO's, Stockholders, and Politicians who are working to make sure that this company, who has been a part of this community for more than 50 years, survives.
Posted by: Joe on Jan 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Just think 3 weeks ago the Gov said WV was in great shape and a 1 million dollar ball it what the people wanted.
Posted by: RoaneCo. on Jan 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
I bet wage and benefit concessions was discussed!
Posted by: Daryl on Jan 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM
If the spot market prices per pound of aluminum is much lower than the cost to produce the product you loss money and the compnay can not survive if there is no profit. The law of supply and demand is evident.
Posted by: Kate on Jan 11, 2009 at 07:48 AM
I really hope the plant will stay open. I know some people from Ravenswood who work there and I really pray that they don't lose their jobs.
Posted by: Foxy on Jan 11, 2009 at 04:32 AM
Here is a thought..Lay off the salary workers that do not have enough to keep busy in a day's work. Overpaid with hardly working, that should be a sin. If they are not layed off, reduce their income. How many secretaries do they have? How many do they REALLY NEED? Downsize the office not the ones that make the money for the company.
Posted by: wife and mother on Jan 11, 2009 at 01:30 AM
I am very thankful that our governor and community leaders are working to help keep Century Aluminum open. I pray that this meeting has showed Century executives that two major communities in this area will be affected severely if this plant closes. And it will effect other families living over in Ohio. My husband has worked there for the past 10 years and at forty something it would be very hard to find another line of work. These towns will turn into ghost towns because it will affect every business that is opened. Hang in there guys and please be very thankful if Century stays open.
Posted by: Emmitt Boyle on Jan 10, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Told you so
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  • Posted By: food for thought: Yes I am a Christian. I do need to understand the book of Revelation more and the end time prophecy. Like most I have the concept of it. Just to make it short, government dependence(happening more than ever) and is almost being forced for the citizens of this country to rely on. Cap and trade?(sign of the mark of the beast?)I don't know. I am ready. You that believe in science is fine, I do too. I do not go as far as to believe every report they give out. I pose this question. if you are so worried about global warming that means you don't like heat or burning:correct? Hmmm, think on this of what in Revelation I do understand. The lake of fire is where the worm dieth not and the fire is never quenched. Eternity is forever, on this Earth we are just passing through.
  • Posted By: to why: no ,hetrosexuals wont go to hell any slower than gays.adultry fornication,stealing lying murder etc,are all sins.every one sins,it just that you cant say you want to be a christian,and keep on with bad habits or not want to change and expect god to say thats all right.life is a struggle for all of us.we are expected to repent and try our hardest to do whats right.god respects that.you are not in any more danger than any other sinner.i know that homosexuality is a sin but so is adultry.would we tell an adulter that its all right to keep on hurting their marriage and spouse and thats alright,no.i would rather live beside an honest caring,productive gay person than a dishonest evil selfish nosy buissybody any day.we are only responsible for our own sins and actions.you sound stressed,lighten up.but homosexuality is a sin,like adultry and fornication,nobody gets a free pass.
  • Posted By: Patty: Good points, Htiek, but the status quo with coal mining, which is a dirty business, no matter how it is marketed, i.e., "clean coal" (coal is dirty, period), will remain till the resources are depleted, the land and environment of the coal fields are destroyed, which is pretty much the case at present.
  • Posted By: bonn: One more thing and I really will stop. Why does the weather cycle? I do not know everything-no one does. But everything has its purpose. Sometimes, more cold is called for. If we don't have hard winters snakes and mosquitoes thrive, for one. Mosquitoes are a large part of fish diet. And snakes keep rodents in check. But too much cold hurts other things that call for warmer temps. Quail is one thing that comes to mind that suffer in the frigid temps. We just don't understand all of the workings of these things. But it is all to keep a balance-many times in things we ourselves have killed off, such as bear and wolves. Even if we don't like some species, they all serve a purpose and nature helps keep that balance. Our world really was wonderfully made. With all the changes in temperature, we still have seasons. You can know it will be cold in winter and hot in summer. The excesses serve a purpose we sometimes can not see. Strive to learn of all of her wonders, not follow blindly.
  • Posted By: bonn: I would like to apologize if I have been short and critical. I really am sorry. It is no excuse, but I have a very sick child who may be dying and I get so upset at the state of our world. I do have to quit reading these comments. But I hope I have caused a few people at least to think with their own common sense instead of blindly following whatever. Some theories may be correct. But many ARE for monetary purposes. We each were given a mind to think with. Question everything before taking it as it appears. And be sure and thank a veteran for the freedom we celebrate this weekend. Too many have died to protect it to just give it up willingly. And whether or not you are religious, lets try to love one another. Love can fix so many things! Try to keep our world clean, But that doesn't have to bankrupt us. We can all do our part in whatever ways we can. The old saying "Give a hoot, don't pollute" should not have gone out of style. And use your wikipedia to read "Ice Age" to see cycling.
  • Posted By: Follow up on cap and rape: CNSNews.com) – The 1,400-page cap-and-trade legislation pushed through by House Democrats contains a new federal policy that residential, commercial, and government buildings be retrofitted to increase energy efficiency, leaving it up to the states to figure out exactly how to do that. This means that homeowners, for example, could be required to retrofit their homes to meet federal “green” guidelines in order to sell their homes, if the cap-and-trade bill becomes law. The bill, which now goes to the Senate, directs the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to develop and implement a national policy for residential and commercial buildings. The purpose of such a strategy – known as the Retrofit for Energy and Environmental Performance (REEP) – would be to “facilitate” the retrofitting of existing buildings nationwide.In other words all your appliances-heating-stove -fridge-windows-would have to meet green standards before we sell SOCAILISM HAS ARRIVED YESWEDID
  • Posted By: ANOTHER YES WE CAN: First you paid to insure your car. Soon you may have to add health insurance premiums to that stack of monthly bills as well. In a revamped health care system envisioned by senators, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face fines of more than $1,000. The details were unveiled Thursday in a health care overhaul bill supported by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.SOCAILISM IS HERE The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines would raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals
  • Posted By: bonn: Good grief! The brain washing has gone so far it will never get better. Some of this way of thinking makes me physically ill in my stomach. All of one mind! Mindless devotion to whatever is contrary to common sense and whatever theory is being passed around. Most families have both parents working, some two jobs, just to make it now. Soon you won't even be able to work enough to carry your family, the government and the ones who won't work. Then you will be disposable and they will start killing you off because you can't give them enough money. But you will blindly keep following. It is easy to see how Hitler took control and how it is being set up for the antichrist to take control. I quit. I will never read another comment. And Kris, did that nut not know the sky has always appeared blue? Hahaha Goodbye. I know you will reply, but I won't be reading it. Never again. Either you believe God or the scientists. I choose God. And freedom!
  • Posted By: cap and trade: world net daily has an informative article on home ownership and all buildings in u.s.it is about total government control of everyone.you will have to answer to the gov.or else.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To Pearl: Thanks for the comment. I try to be an adult and make the usual comments and complaints, But how would you feel if every time you wrote something, Someone would respond back with their own opinions and say that you are wrong! Just the other day I wrote how my child was injured at Camden Park! Of course RoaneCo. had to write something and attack me about my decision to get angry about the situation. Yes, I agree that I should just turn the other cheek but I was raised to stand up for myself!! Why I'm a target I'll never know but I think that I have a right just like everyone else on here and to say my opinion on things whether people agree or not.
  • Posted By: Why?: EVERYONE SINS! Why is being gay the worst sin that sends you "straight" to HELL? Heterosexuals can do all the "sining" they want and still go to heaven but LGBT can't.
  • Posted By: Justme: Coal mining has been around for years and years. I'm sick of all these nuts that are griping about mining. You nuts are always griping. Maybe you need to get a life. If your so against it.. Then turn your lights out. And stop using the power. Move on, and stop taking jobs away from our miner's.
  • Posted By: Htiek: What always amazes me about people in WV is their slavish devotion to coal mining even though it is killing the planet, costs more jobs than it creates, poisons the water, destroys the mountains, scars the land, kills the snail darter, and other horrible things. Things are all so backwards in this country why dont we switch over to something that lasts and is free like the sun and wind? Even if the president said that stuff and I doubt he did and even if he did you are misquoting him or taking him out of context he is right if there is one sure way to get people to stop turning their air conditioners down to 76 it is to raise the price, just like gasoline. People we can learn to ride bikes and walk again, just like they did in the old days, that will help give us exercise and decrease the obesity rate in WV. Food is another area, the slop that people eat like MacDonalds, trans fats, regular soft drinks, anybody with half a brain knows the intelligent thing to do is tax regular soda pop.
  • Posted By: Gandalf: A tea party? Oh my! I must relay this information to my friend Alice and the Mad Hatter. Door Mouse and Rabbit too. They will be thrilled! Oh my bad, must have picked out the wrong book today. Ta Ta!
  • Posted By: Pearl: Roane Co why dont you and Jane pursue your romance elsewhere the yell is for complaints.
  • Posted By: Kris: Just throwing this out there. I'm sitting on my couch wearing sweat pants and short sleeve shirt. I'm thinking about shuting my windows and turning on my heat. Shouldn't I be turning on the air conditioner instead? It's the 2nd of July. Not saying it's global warming but it doesn't seem right. Haven't heard of any heat warning anywhere is the US so far this summer. Great for us but doesn't feel right.
  • Posted By: Kris: Hi Bonn, it is true that these cycles do occur over time. Scientists have taken core samples from the earth and the ice to show these cycles. However, none of the samples show such a dramatic change in such a short period of time. I am a smoker and I will admit that my second hand smoke can and probably will effect the lungs of a non-smoker. The tons of carbon monoxide and other pollutants that we release into our atmosphere HAS TO have an effect on our atmosphere. True story: there was a scientist that day after day after day couldn't figure out why the sky was so blue and clear. Then it struck him, there hadn't been ANY planes in the air for three days. That was 911. What you put out, is what you get back. If you put love out, you will get love back. If you put out negativity, you will get negativity back. For every action, there is a reaction whether it's good or bad. It's in our hands to do our best not to cause an adverse impact to our planet. Peace to ALL!
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello again good working coal mining people of WV this is the coal miners friend Big Earl with news of yet another hippie plot to stick there big noses further into our business now some of these people in Congress has throwed in with the tree huggers they are trying to make it so you cannot sell your house without some nut from the hippie EPA coming in and inspecting it to make sure you are green enough to suit there tastes. This so called cap and trade bill that these busy body do gooders are pushing on us will destroy our jobs and run up the electric bills so that everybody will have to live like the Waltons with 27 people under one roof just to keep warm. Now the average hippie longhair don’t care noway because they would have us all living in mud huts riding mules wearing sandals and weaving baskets to load down with califlowers and arougalas tofu and alfalfa to take up on some worthless mountaintop as an offering to there windmill god instead of having nice homes, cars, a job and cool air in the summer and heat in the winter ALL THANKS TO THE COAL MINER. Anything to bother people attracts these hippies like flies to a cowpie.
  • Posted By: to hteik: hteik has 2 comment .the global warming one was hillarous.it was june 30.he must not have gotten the same public education i did,he was taught that we had satellites in colonial time.but then again he think algoe is really smart,he doesnt know al didn,t really invent the innernet.i think fox news and conservative talk radio would do him a world of good,he,d be shocked at what he doesn,t know.
  • Posted By: Amy: Hey Keith, I must have missed that interview because I was busy clinging to my guns and religion. No, really, I did see it. It's kind of strange how people become so shocked when this stuff is introduced in the House of Reps. Obama outlined every plan he intended to get pushed through and a lot of people just didn't listen. Next time I hope people vote for the best candidate not the best slogan. Yes we can....bankrupt the nation!
  • Posted By: Patriot1: Tea Party: There will be a tea party in Grayson, Ky on July 4th. It will be held at the City Park from 4:00-6:30PM
  • Posted By: Dave: The seat belt law is no law. Its nothing but a deliberate attempt to extort money off the American people,use communist law and control the populace. THE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER VOTED ON IT, BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET YOU BELIEVE THAT IT WILL SAVE LIVES. TELL THEM TO GIVE YOU THE FIGURES ON ACCIDENTAL OPERATIONS.And if that doesn't satisfy you then why are we allowing our young brave soldiers to be killed,and for whom? WHY AREN'T THESE NEWSPAPERS BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE? Because the nations 96% are owned and controled by the WEALTHIEST.
  • Posted By: bonn: I was trying to make a point. Perhaps not in the best way. I get so discouraged seeing what is happening around us. One group of scientists call for us to spread soot on all the snow up north to absorb heat to counter the coming ice age. Another (more popular) group calls for painting our roofs white to reflect the heat that is melting our ice caps. Which group is right? Neither. Our earth is doing exactly as it has been doing all along. Cycling naturally. Did it plan it all on its own? Hardly. But no one wants to hear that. It reminds me of "chicken little" yelling "the sky is falling". Only this is not so funny-this is control. And what is even sadder is-people seem to WANT to be controlled. This earth will continue as always until one preplanned day it all comes to a screeching halt. Then a new earth will be created. I will not be caught off guard. I read The Book. I know where I will be. Do you? And do you really enjoy giving those schemers your money that much? I hope one day...
  • Posted By: Keith: A few questions for the Yell audience: Does anyone remember when Obama gave that interview in SanFran Cisco and said that he would not prevent the construction of a coal fired plant, but his policies would bankrupt anybody that tried to build one? That policy was cap and trade. I heard O say that energy prices, under his administration, would "necessairly skyrocket." Is this the hope and change you guys voted for? How will you afford your electric and gas service under this man who cares so much for the poor? Obama said once that he was not bothered that the price of gas had risen so high, just that it happened so fast. How does everyone feel about the gas price? Obama raked John Pablo McCain over the coals for suggesting health care benefits be taxed as income, now he is going to do the same thing to pay for "free" care to illegal aliens, deadbeats, etc...but union workers will be exempt from this tax. How does that make you feel if you work for a living and are not in a union? H&C
  • Posted By: Amy: Hteik, "all is well" because people like us! Give me a break. If all were well, we would not have the largest unemployment rate in 26 years. The stimulus package would prevent it from going above 8%, remember? How is Iran not our business but Honduras is? The people of Honduras have a Constitution very similar to ours and we should support the people not an extremist who is trying to take over their country. The 22nd Amendment does a great service for our nation. IF it would be reversed that would be O.K too. At the rate Obama is going W. could beat him in 2012. At least I would sleep better at night.
  • Posted By: Just Me: Wow Jane Doe, give it a rest. I really don't think God would be please with this going on and on and on...healthy banter is fine, but this is not healthy banter. Christians absolutely can and do get angry, it's what they do with that anger that counts. It doesn't matter where, when, or even IF you go to church...what matters is that you have accepted Christ into your heart and asked for forgiveness of your sins. God didn't save us to judge others, he saved us to lead others to him. I've said many times...what if the person you just yelled at, told off, or whatever showed up at your church on Sunday? Would you be proud of your behavior?
  • Posted By: Sophie: Roane County is a beautiful place. The country roads snake along past fields, farms and old homes we wish could talk. Looneyville is indeed named after the Looney family, so is Gandeeville. My father was from Roane Co. & graduated from Walton High School in the 40's. He told me tales of his school days, friends, boyish pranks, old cars and the fun they had at the 4-H camp. Spencer was a big place to them. Roane Co. gave us many war veterans and kept distant family & friends together with the annual "Roane County Reunion". I don't even know if they still have it, but we used to go. I remember seeing Sen. Robert Byrd play his fiddle there. The Black Walnut Festival in October(?) is a good time to visit Spencer. They usually have a parade, arts & crafts and a museum. You can enjoy a slice of Americana, along with a slice of homemade pie.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: The great Dale Carnegie once said "You never win an argument".Most of you know he wrote" How to Win Friends and Influence People'.Some of you should put this on your Christmas List.I think I will dust it off and revisit this old classic.
  • Posted By: cap and trade: welcome to ''before tax and tax'bill going thru the powers that be.look at your electric bills this monthe there is an enviornmental tax at 2.2cents for every kilowatt you use.can we even imagine what our electric bill will be,not to mention every thing we consume,food water ,every necessity that cant be done without.we in easternky have good reps.in washington,every one in surrounding states should put your so called reps a lot of pressure to defeat this tax and tax bill that is being pushed by a few people to make them richer and control every aspects of productive peoples lives.look at your gasbill also,you will see only a very small portion for gas but the rest in fees and taxes.look at your phone bill you will see a 100percent markup in taxes and fees.its time to put pressure on politicans to protect the citizens and not the lobiest.
  • Posted By: justanotherfly: sounds like jane doe is looking for an easy way out ie a lawsuit
  • Posted By: to bonn: i couldn,t have said it better myself.some things have to be explained like you are talking to a 5year old.but like some 5year olds that are stubborn and spoiled rotten they dont listen.wait till the cost of every thing sky rockets and they will be the first to rant and rave that nobody told them.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To my biggest fan, RoaneCo: Ummm! It's sounds to me like you have a lot of anger. You have to pick on everyone's comments! I think I speak for everyone when I say (Get a Job)!! Cause you obviously have none! You have all this free time on your hands! Why don't you spend this free time helping others instead of puttin them down! You know..WSAZ has job postings...Maybe you could find one on there!!!!I'm not a negative person. Maybe I'm just like everyone else that has a job and three kids and a lot of things to do! I get stressed out, I know that goes way over your head,You don't get stressed. But because you go to church doesn't mean you can't get angry about stuff!!LOL My father-in-law is a Deacon at my church and even he has a temper!! Look out craveontruth! Looks like RoaneCo. has found someone else to pick on!Good Luck!! Have a perfect day ( I know you will)!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Yes Craveontruth, there is a place named Looneyville.(no Jane Doe that isn't where I live) It is on Rt.36, nothing there but the Looneyville Post Office, and I am not joking. There is also a Lefthand Post Office on Rt.36, always wondered why there wasn't a Righthand also. Our County seat is located in Spencer, (middle of nowhere) which for years was only known for its State Mental Institution. (no Jane Doe this isn't my Alma mater) It was closed years ago and now a Wal-Mart is on that location. I guess the only other thing to speak of would be the Black Walnut Festival which is held in Spencer every October.
  • Posted By: bonn, the simpleton: Don't we have a smart earth? She formed herself from a dust cloud, they say and planted herself just the right distance from the sun to support the life she would create. She also filled her insides with molten heat to maintain the right temps and if that builds too much she decides to blow some out holes (volcanoes) to keep from exploding. She makes her own rain, knowing whether she needs a gentle soaking rain for her plants, or a gully washer to cleanse the filth. It pours down the mountains, into the rivers and out into the ocean which she just happened to fill with salt (her natural sanitizer). And she knows if she doesn't have ice she will over heat, but too much and she will freeze, killing her life she so carefully made. So she melts some, then as it heats up, she freezes more. All just coincidental happenings? She is brilliant! But not so smart as the humans who are making a fortune controlling the other dumb humans by convincing them THEY are causing her to do these things!!!
  • Posted By: passing by the yell: I met someone from Looneyville once. It's named that after a person's last name from what I was told.
  • Posted By: Hteik: Well it is nice to see that the war in Iraq is ending under President Obama. Who would have thought, it seems the world is backwards right now, huh? Obama gets elected, the world understands our good will, and all is well. Just like history, Republicans start wars, Democrats finish them. Hate to say we told you so but we told you so, I just get fuzzy inside thinking about all the people that love us now that hated us because of that old Bush. Another thing too, leave this Iran thing alone, that is none of our business. I dont recall anybody from Iran coming over here to help us in 1776 so why should we stick our nose in their business? When you get a strong leader like in Honduras, a good strong leader with a military background, everybody goes nuts because the guy takes things over well I support him and Obama. In fact, some people are so needed we better start now to get rid of the 22nd Amendment, it was only put in by jealous radical extremist crazy Republicans to hurt FDR.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: I don't think I have ever been to Roan County.Nothing against the good people of that neck of the woods.I did enjoy looking it up on wikipedia.Is there really a Looneyville there? If there is then I must visit!Who's with me?
  • Posted By: food for thought: 2-10 years for almost killing a child? Where are our priorities? I know they are nestled in the mountains or wait lying deep in the ocean waiting for anoother person to adopt them and claim rights to the next whale that is proclaimed Shammu or Willy. Get real people lets protest these laws that allow some cook to wanna kill his child and only have to pay his debt of 2 - 10 years. Oh and Kris your right our God won't kill a 1 yr old or a 100 yr old just do to it. He would do it for his glory and maybe take them from being around a half heartened sadistic person that would do this to a child. Oh i love the lights and the A/C and my car, but most of all I love my GOD "Jehovah God" whom i think first and foremost for all I have, then i thank a coal miner and an AEP worker and a so on and so on.
  • Posted By: Kimberly: Raising the WV Toll price? I see a lot of arguments coming from this. Where is all of this money going to? Mansion might be a good governer, but when it comes to things like this, it needs fixed. WV roads are awful and I know after all of these years, surely the toll money has added up to more than enough to fix these roads!!! What an awful awful idea!!
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Bonn, people like you are the very reason I have stated that I respect ones right of freedom of religion. Although I have different views, I have no issues with anyone going to church and trying to live according to their interpretation of the bible. I think that is wonderful. I also thank you Bonn for being open minded and seeing the point I was trying make. And for Anonymous on Jul 1, 2009 at 03:11 PM, no Craveontruth and I are not the same person. We do agree on some issues, and disagree on others. And when we do disagree (speaking for myself of course) we do it without anger. Also, for Bob... sorry, it isn't working. I have a two year old that comes up with better jabs than you. But I respect your right to try.
  • Posted By: Sophie: Just a few comments on current Yells: Big Earl - I just can't read you anymore because it's the same things over & over. Yeah, we're with you - there are a bunch on weed-o's coming around these days trying to shut us down for the sake of some owl...We get it. We all hate it. Roane Co/Jane -It appears Roane has been very hurt in their lifetime by family conflict involving belief. Many people get hurt because of superstition & misinterpretation and overzealousness. It has been this way since time began. I hope Roane can someday get past the hurt & retoric to work out his/her own salvation. Simple belief in Jesus Christ is where it starts, the rest as I put it, is just "gravy". Jane: I'm sorry your child was hurt. This indeed must be reported. I got hurt @ CP one time too on "The Whip". It beat me so hard against the side I had a major bruise on my hip. I strained my arms trying to keep from slamming into the side. A fun thing was not so fun. No rides for me, anymore. Not there.
  • Posted By: : I think RoaneCo. and Craveontruth is the exact same person? Who's with me?
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Hello good people of WV this is Big Earl and I for one am sick and tired of all these out of state know it all nosey people bothering us if it is not these smelly hippies trying to run our jobs off or rename the WVU mascot now they are calling the good citizens of WV fat. Well people I am here to tell you that this bunch at the so called CSPI and no you hippies I don’t mean the TV show calling us fat should look in the mirror they look like something off night of the living dead pasty faced scarecrows and beanpoles and what is so great about that. WV has some of the best staple foods anywhere in the world I have eaten paotatoes beans meat flour and corn meal all my life cooked in lard and I am not one bit worse off for it and can mine coal with anybody. People all the good foods we eat are natural growed in the garden or on the farm so it should even make a tofu eating hippie type happy. I am more bothered that two states beat us out in the race for the top so I tip my hat to the people of the great states of Alabama home of the best country music band ever and Mississippi but people of WV get busy we have to reclaim our title to best fed in the USA I recommend the Kentucky Fried Chicken with gravy and biscuits as a good place to start our comeback.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Actually Jane Doe, growing up I did attend church and read the bible. Being subjected to religion for many years I would not consider myself "confused" or uneducated. If one looks at organized religion with an open mind it isn't hard to see who is confused. For example, you have one bible yet there are numerous religious groups ( methodists, baptists etc...) that believe their interpretation is the only correct interpretation. This is understandable because the bible itself is very contradictive. In my opinion the the bible and organized religion is nothing more than a tool created to control the masses. Yet this tool has pitted man against man, brother against brother, state against state and country against country, not to mention the wars, death and destruction it has caused. I have witnessed in my lifetime many family fueds, broken marriages and busted churches at the hands of organized religion. I have heard the words of hate spoken by christians. I am not confused.
  • Posted By: To Fat Earl: You're losing! Ha,Ha!
  • Posted By: Kris: God does not control the weather!If so then he would be responsible for killing hundreds of innocent people every year in America alone! If that's your God, you can have it! My GOD is loving and compassionate. He would never take the life of a one year old nor a hundred year old just because he felt like creating a tornado that day or a hurricane the next. Get a brain and use it simpletons!
  • Posted By: bonn: To Jane Doe: I am afraid RoaneCo's common sense is more attractive than your comments. Read your last post at 8:58 and see if it shows the Light you are suppose to give. We are suppose to control our anger. Yes, we are forgiven, but it is not a license to keep repeating our faults. It is mercy so we can improve. Viciousness does not become a child of God. RoaneCo., may God forgive us for driving you and others away from Him with our failure to shine the Light of Love. And Jane Doe, I am the one you called ignorant just because I was showing compassion (another expectation of a Christian). It is scary about your child. But that person was not attacking your child, nor joking about it, only disapproving of your outburst. Not very attractive in anyone, especially one called to set an example for others to follow. If you must get angry, use it to accomplish something good. Christians are hated enough WITHOUT cause. Love is the answer.
  • Posted By: Bob: I think we might need to contact someone in state govt.about inspecting our amusement parks to many in the public simply dont care if kids get hurt this could have been something really really bad but I guess there is always a few who would crack jokes at anything even a child getting injured.
  • Posted By: cap and trade bill: you wont hear on liberal obama mania news reports whats in the cap and tax bill.only conservate talk radio and conservative news are telling the contents of this country destroying bill.liberal dont want you to be informed,it would be to dangerous for their so called news networks.did you know that,as i somewhat understand it,that every house in the country will have to be at gov.standards before it can be sold,they will be allowed to change therules in mid stream if they want.even if you dont like conservative news,remember only a well informed person can try to stop tyranny.look for facts,have you heard 1 liberal news tell you whats in this bill thats detrimental to this country and freedom.i challenge wsaz to look up whats in this bill and report accuratly whats in it.i dont think thats going to happen.
  • Posted By: food for thought: AMEN Bonn I could never have said it any better, being a Boone county coal miner and all. We do no get a very well reputation anyway.
  • Posted By: Craveontruth: RoaneCo.can hurt but often the truth does hurt.I support RoaneCo.To Jane Doe,I believe RoaneCo.does know quite a bit about Christianity and is not confused at all.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: Thank you everyone for your support!!You know RoaneCo. Nobody is perfect, That goes for Christians too! Are we allowed to get mad??Yes! But are we forgiven everyday? Yes!Obviously you don't know much about Christianity! That's why you critize so much!!You're confused!! We are not perfect! I guess you are!!
  • Posted By: VOTE NO ON CAP AND TRADE: I know its a repost but i think its Worthy 'Liberty Or Tyranny?' House Passes Cap-And-Trade Republicans Warn Bill Gives Federal Government 'Virtual Control' Over 'Every Aspect Of The Lives Of The American People. Thank the Dumbocratic controled house as it will raise the average consumers power bill $175.00 This on top of the energy companies already asking for an inctrase will put such a burden on the American people that only the wealthy will survive.Please write or call our Senators they are the only life line we have left and ask them to VOTE NO on cap and trade. Republicans were overwhelmingly against the measure, arguing it would destroy jobs in the midst of a recession while burdening consumers with a new tax in the form of higher energy costs.And there was plenty to work on in a House-passed measure that pointed toward higher electricity bills for the middle class.Budget Office and the other from the Environmental Protection Agency — that suggested average increases would be $175.00 a year.
  • Posted By: cap and trade survey: against cap and tax,85percent.people who work and are productive.15percent for cap and tax,,,people who work for government or live off the fat of the land and dont mind other people being taxed into poverty....
  • Posted By: : If new drivers would slow down and actually pay attention to what they are doing, then maybe WV would'nt have these new laws for teenage drivers. Personally myself I believe that all states should have this law. It would make the roads a little safer to drive on.
  • Posted By: bonn: About global warming- our temperature is (and always has been) constantly changing. GOD controls it. Anyone who thinks we can are puffing themselves up bigger than we are.Are we suppose to believe we are responsible for the Ice Age thawing that is suppose to have happened way back when as well? How did that happen? Certainly not carbon emissions. Use some common sense and realize people are using this to line their pockets and gain support for their pet projects. I know- you don't want to hear this, but it is not realistic. Don't let America be controlled with this, PLEASE!! Let us remain free!
  • Posted By: Bob: Dont worry Jane Doe I have notice RoaneCOs posts are generally always on the rude side I am sorry to hear about your daughter.
  • Posted By: Just wondering: the 3 people that was killed on alt rt 10. 2 being st. joe's students. Did they ever release the cause of the accident?
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: I do care about the safety of our children Anonymous on Jun 30, 2009 at 09:01 AM, no matter where they are or what they are doing. Our children are our future. What I don't care for is someone like Jane Doe on here week after week preaching her little sermons all the while calling people ignorant and showing her hostility toward others. It has always amazed me how most christians will belittle someone else but the minute you catch them being unchristian like they always come up with the old "we christians ain't perfect". Well I know they are not, but by golly they are the first to judge everyone else. These hyporcitical self proclaimed christians are one of the reasons I turned away from organized religion years ago. I just don't agree with these people shoving religion on everyone else. I respect Jane Does right to religion and I would even fight for her to keep that right, but she, like so many others need to keep their religion in their church and their home.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Well hello again good working coal mining families in WV this is Big Earl and I for one am very disappointed that this cap and trade bill got passed into law the other day no thanks to our good representatives from WV. People all I can say is get a woodpile and a bunch of cow chips because your electric is going to get real expensive real quick. These hippies has run up to Washington DC and boo hooed to them tree huggers and longhairs in the EPA until they got even worse done to our jobs but then again what do you expect from a bunch that has a leaf from a dope plant on there sign like the EPA does if you don’t believe me look on this very website I seen a picture of it. Birds of a feather flock together that’s why the good working people were kept out and not allowed to talk at that hearing and the hippies let in. People these hippies has slandered our great state and coal miners first they bring in professor moonbeam from NASA to insult us then he tucks his tail and runs back to NASA and wont debate Mr. DB then they attack our state university mascot the WV mountaineer. Well people I Big Earl have a solution to this lets call WV the “Ivory Soap State,” make our mascot a bathtub that’s a sure fire way to get rid of these smelly hippies and longhairs and keep them out forever.
  • Posted By: ME: We christians are most always judged by our actions and that is to be expected since we are not perfect in any way. We all make mistakes every day,we get angry,we say things we shouldn't and act out our frustrations sometimes to those closest to us and our friends. We try to do better and ask forgiveness when we do stumble from our christian path. Actions speak louder than words at times, good or bad. Yes we adults act like children at times and children try to act like adults all too soon. We never know who we are influenceing with our actions and words so we need to always try to act,say and do what is right. As long as we are on this earth we will stumble but we should strive to be the best we can be and treat people with love and respect no matter how we are treated. I have turned the cheek many times and been slapped alot and will keep on doing it as long as I breath. My time will come soon enough to be judged as to the way I have lived and treated people.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: I love people on the Yell!!! They give me a chance to laugh everyday. Thanks guys!!
  • Posted By: just looking: UMMMM do you people think that christians are perfect??? Do you think we dont get angry?? Only one person is perfect and that is Jesus Christ...And if a christian says they are perfect, then they arnt a very good christian. We all have faults. Alot of you people cant wait to get up and look at the faults of others and criticize what they believe in....
  • Posted By: Patriot1: Tea Party. There will be a "Tea Party" July 4th from 4:00-6:30 PM at the City Park in Grayson,Ky
  • Posted By: Donna: Please! enough of Michael Jackson. He died, now he will appear before God and face his punishment for his sins against children. He was a morally bankrupt person who the media has presented as an icon. It's no wonder children are so messed up today,too much TV and not enough parenting. You too, are responsible for making him appear as a person to be looked up to. He and others in entertainment and sports are not what the children need, they need moral examples to look up to, please stop the glorification of immoral and indecent individuals.
  • Posted By: food for thought: To those of you telling me to watch out for Fox news, please go back and read carefully what I said about the media and the government. I thank each of you for your information. I am not out to attack anyone whether acclaimed or the average joe. I just know what I have read from reports and from different sites. This information is what our scientists, meteorologists and so forth use in reference to report the records of weather and temperatures. Again thank each of you, and at last Fox news was the channel the fine people at our local (American made) dealership had channeled on the tube, personally I just watch WSAZ, at the local level.
  • Posted By: : Roane Co., why are you not concerned about the safety of small children at amusement parks?
  • Posted By: Htiek: Right on Kris you tell em about Fox News. Everyone that watches knows that the dependable networks are ABF, Anyone But Fox. I am just like everyone else in the know, they lie all the time but please dont press me to cite anything specific as I am having coffee right now. I am new to your side, so pardon me if I get something confused. Those photographs of the ice caps are proof positive as far as I am concerned, these flat earth types that dont believe global warming should compare them to the satellite picutres from the colonial period and over the years since for comparison purposes. I once heard the hottest year on record was in the 1930s but what does that prove. And before one of you know it alls talks about Al Gore riding everywhere in a private plane and having such a huge house and running a company that profits from selling carbon credits, some people in life earn their special privileges simply by showing up and enlightening the rest of us, so there.
  • Posted By: polar ice caps: the weather is always changing.sometime it freezes sometimes it melts,thats gods doings,not mans.wasnt it the great mind of ted danson many years ago that explaind that in 15 or 20 years that the oceans were going to raise so many feet that it would destroy and overflo inward to apolipicate level.i guess the people that live on these coast lines dont know they are under water.we americans are so silly.let me explain what a great creator said,it rains but the oceans are never full.ice melts but the oceans never overflo.i think i,ll believe him instead of a.gore or ted danzen.p.b.s last week on a travel show,,i think,,,,the guide said the glacier there had been melting 150years.that was certainly before the industrial revolution.as for fox,world net daily,newsmax,etc.the liberal press has lost it monolopy on liberal so called news.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: After you finish showing your true colors, go back and read my post again Jane Doe. Better yet let me cut and paste it for you. "I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are." And just for the record, I would never "make fun" of a child, but don't think for one second that I won't point out an adult being hypocritical. Are you not the same Jane Doe that three weeks ago was preaching about God, then in the same breath calling someone "IGNORANT"? So let me say it one more time, I hope your little girl is ok. As for you, thank you for proving once again how kind, loving, patient and understanding some of you fine christians can be.
  • Posted By: Kris: This respectfully goes out to "food for thought" for what they said about fox news and global warming.FOX has great movies and tv shows but their view when it comes to the "news" is so far on the "right" way of thinking that it totally obscures reality in their opions of the subject at hand. They'll twist their views to make sure that it is opposite of "liberals" or people on the "left" and how they feel about the subject.Asf or global warming, we have actual time lapsed pictures of the polar caps melting at an alarming rate. You can actually see it happening. If things are cooling down, then why are the polar caps and icebergs melting at an alarming rate? The evidence is right in front of our faces. I sure do hope you're right because if I am, our planet is doomed. Sincerely, Kris
  • Posted By: Jethro: WHATS WRONG WITH YOU ALL UPDATE THE YELL!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!
  • Posted By: Keith: Never thought I'd sit around and miss Bush...well the wrecking ball has appointed a racist to the supreme court, one that is inept and incompetent too. Did you notice her latest ruling was overturned today? The economy is not getting better, those of you out of work have my sympathy because this clown is not doing anything to make it better. He never held a real job, never ran a business, just a rabble rouser and agitator. How do you feel about cap and trade energy tax? All over a phony problem that doesnt even exist; WV will wither away to nothing but hey we can all get jobs in the windmill factory, cant we? How do you feel about having your health benefits taxed to pay for Obamacare? How's the hope and change working out for everyone? What do you think card check is going to do the economy? Check out an article about Obama the African Colonialist on the American Thinker Website, dated June 25th. It explains him to a "T." Obama is a wrecking ball, and he's gonna roll over everyone.
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Well hello again good working coal miners of WV this is Big Earl and people I have come to the conclusion that we need some friends in Washington DC that has got some clout. Some people up there has got big names but nobody apparently listens to, that is if they show up at all in court to help you out, those who are sick are excepted. Then there are some people in Charleston who should be in Washington who shall remain unnamed because nobody in Gov. Joes office asked me to say that. But remember who had that bunch from FEMA down here handing out checks before two weeks after the flood water hit and figure out who has clout. You people that went up for the hearing last week should be thanked but the good people never got to say a word but these hippies did, they are apparently now running around the creek with microscopes looking for fish that cant be seen with the eye, something called a microbe, now they are blaming the coal miner for killing off this worthless animal and I sincerely hope Captain D or old Long John will never put some slop like that on my plate when I want good seafood. If you dont see it it cant be of no good use anyway, sort of like a certain US senator with a big rich name who was nowhere to be seen last week.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: To RoaneCo. How dare you critize my comment. This isn't just some fun arguement!! My child is hurt! Do you think that's funny? Do me a favor, Next time I write about my kids, Don't comment! I hope you don't have any kids because you don't see the harm and worry in my comment, You just want to fight and make fun of someone!! This is really serious!! I don't see the humor!!!
  • Posted By: Big Earl: Did any of you people see those PETA nuts on the TV 3 news last night boo hooing about having to tie there dogs up hello again working people of WV this is Big Earl and I don’t know about you but I always thought it was rude and inconsiderate and just being a bad neighbor to let your dogs run wild all over the neighborhood digging up peoples backyards rooting around in garbage cans and doing there business all over the place. Have any of you people in Huntington ever lost a chicken to a wild dog. Even these back to nature types and hippies up here in Boone County tie up there dog to guard there dope patches but they don’t have no sense anyway if they aint going to Washington DC to try and rook us out of our jobs by carrying signs and yelling about some invisible fish that is no good to anybody they are screaming about the coal miner killing polar bears and other animals that don’t even live here. Apparently this bunch had the bright idea to go down to the park on Sunday down in Huntington when people was out with there families trying to walk around and enjoy things and they chained themselves to trees with real dog chains trying to get people to sign a protest petition to of all people a mayor named Wolf now I don’t know about you but that mayor better forget the beware of dog sign he needs to put a beware of the PETA nut sign up in that park.
  • Posted By: The Seeker: @food for thought: It is indeed important to check facts, and it heartens me to see that you're of the type that actively seeks them (even thought I fall on the side of the debate that believes in climate change, as it has solid science behind it). However, I caution you on taking anything from FOX news at face value. This is an organization that in 2000 won a case in Florida appeals court in which the court ruled that FOX has no obligation to tell the truth to it's viewers, and can misinform the public under the first amendment. This is also an organization that has been proven to have an agenda, and frames every bit of it's coverage to favor one political party over the other. My advice is to seek out less obviously biased news sources, especially in cases such as global warming, which is an issue that transcends political parties and affects every being on the planet.
  • Posted By: Hugh: Hey WVa. Checkin out the YELL. Kind of quiet today. Enjoyed my visit there. Met John Henry at the Big Ben Tunnel,saw the big bridge. Stood at Hawk's Nest and viewed the scenery. If I wasn't so old and crippled, I'd bungee jump from the New River Gorge Bridge. Have folks who live in the Talcott area and some around Hinton. Well won't take much of your time today. Just wanted to check in.
  • Posted By: what is foor for thought?: foor?? for thought, you do know Bush made those he commissioned to study it alter their reports when he found out it supported global warming, don't you? Anyone who just sees pictures of the ice caps 30 years ago and now would have to be mentally handicapped not to know there's global warming, the only thing that's possible to debate is the cause of it. Wonder why Fox didn't mention the Bush fiasco? Well I don't really wonder.
  • Posted By: more p.c at wsaz: gays in usa sounds like it was written by a gay person,so it was printed.it was,nt written by a gay person.it was a second thought,after i commented on other sins,such as adultry,but plainly written by a heterosexual person.it was not printed because im straight and not gay.so goes our country and freedom.
  • Posted By: Lou Ann: Ive had a similar bad experience at camden park several years ago. Havent went back since. The pricing is just another deterrent to doing business locally. I love this area but am very discouraged by the lack of pride in our appearance in several of our towns, the prices of doing business, the attitude towards the customer , the lack of merchandise. I could go on. We definately are not tourist friendly in the great ohio valley area.
  • Posted By: foor for thought: Looks like my comment on June 24th may be right. I have done some reading about this Global warming fad the government is putting on. I was sitting in a local car dealership and FOX news was reporting on the government sitting or "burying" studies by two of the highest ranking EPA officials contradicting this myth. Some of the comments from their studies proves the Global temperature if anything has decreased. Although, you should be skeptical about anything the media reports especially when it involves the government these are facts that have been recorded over time. I ask how come when these bozos as Dr. Hansen whom is from NASA(which has done innumerable amounts of damage to our air with their testing) never mention facts as these when trying to prove things they are claiming is a fact. People we in America have became lazy in seeking the truth, I am not disputing anything these scientists and the government tells us, but as we learned in elementary school check facts of both sides.
  • Posted By: gays in u.s.a.: another reflection on gays.if you think god doesn,t care about you because you,re gay ,he must love you more than you can comprehend,if not you could have been born ina muslim country.islam has no homosexuals ,they are not rehabilitate,just beheaded.as a loving and compassionate god says"GO AND SIN NO MORE".that doesnt mean just you it means all of us.yes god allows you to choose,he must really care.
  • Posted By: City of Milton: I'm glad that the City of Milton has so much money to spend and that they spend it wisely. Every time I drive through town on a nice day it never fails that someone is washing their personal vehicle at the VFD. Good to see that they budget personal car washes into the city budget. I think I'll stop in there today and see if I can wash my car as well...should be a nice day!
  • Posted By: Valorie: About four weeks ago, I sent a letter to Camden Park with a friendly suggestion to open the park to the casual visitor again. As of today, I still haven't had a response from them. There used to be a small fee for admission to anyone who just wanted to visit. Once inside the park, a visitor could buy a corn dog or pay to play a few games or ride a few rides. Now people have to pay a full admission price for all day rides, even when they don't plan to stay all day. A lot of people are grandparents who just want to watch their grandchildren ride for an hour or two. Some are young parents with small children who tire easily. As empty nesters, my husband and I would like to drop by to get a bite to eat, play some games or just walk around. Everyone I have spoken to said they would visit Camden Park a whole lot more if they didn't have to pay the full admission price. I challenge everyone to contact Camden Park and ask them to give the people a choice!
  • Posted By: to gay question: god is not a cruel and unfair god.we all have our faults.is homosuxality a bigger sin than adultry,pornography,lying,stealing, and the list goes on.the clue to these behaviors is wanting to make our lives better.we cant blame anyone but ourselves for what we do.if anyone doesnt change its what they want to do.but as long as it doesnt affect me thats between you and god.but it is wrong,just as cheating on your spouse is sin.would we tell the adulterer that its not sin and not to try being a better person,i think not.celibacy would be better than the same old behavior.these have been struggle since creation.
  • Posted By: RoaneCo.: Losing your religion Jane Doe? What happened to "turn the other cheek"? I do hope your little girl is ok. I have children of my own, I know how precious they are. But next time you read of someone else being "furious" or commenting on their personal issues, maybe you should keep your bible quotes to yourself.
  • Posted By: Jane Doe: I recently went with my church and my family to Camden Park this past weekend. Me and my 6 year old daughter rode the Spider, We thought it was going to be lots of fun, we were wrong! It was a nightmare! It went on for 10 minutes and was going way too fast! My daughter was terrified and was screaming! I was furious when the man that helped us off asked if she was okay and I said what do you think and he laughed!! I have rode this ride for many years and loved it, But this time I could tell it was different! But then it gets worse, A friend of mine that stayed at the park longer than us informed me that after we left, The spider closed down and said they had crossed wires and the ride was malfunctioning!!! My daughter can't hardly walk today and has a four inch bruise down her back! I'm taking her to the doctor in the morning. If there is something seriously wrong, I will be speaking to the owner and this situation will be takin care of!!!!!
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