Trooper's Suicide Raises Allegations, Ex-Troopers Speak Out
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Posted: 1:14 AM Aug 2, 2007
 Last Updated: 10:50 AM Aug 9, 2007
 Reporter: Mike Waterhouse & Jennifer Cottrill
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UPDATE: 8/9/07
More West Virginia State Troopers have resigned in two of the three years Colonel Dave Lemmon has served as superintendent than in any other single year in the last decade, statistics show. Click here for the complete story.


UPDATE: 8/3/07
A trooper who shot and killed himself more than two weeks ago will not be forgotten. A special team of four people is now looking into why Corporal Marlo Gonzales committed suicide.

Since his death: two former troopers have spoken out and more than 800 comments have been posted here on WSAZ.com -- accusing leaders at the West Virginia State Police of pushing Gonzales too far.

Governor Joe Manchin requested that Jim Spears, Secretary of Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety, create this team. It's going to be studying trooper suicides, and is looking to see what other similar states are doing.

Team members:
- Carl Berlin, Retired West Virginia State Police Lieutenant
- Dr. John Linton, Professor & vice chair of the WVU School of Medicine (Charleston), and chiar of the governor's behavior health commission.
- John Bianconi, Commissioner of the bureau for behavior health (under DHHR)
- Joe Thornton - Deputy Secretary of the Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety.

So far, we're told some complaints have come in to the governor's office and the office of military affairs and public safety, but most remain anonymous.

WSAZ will continue to follow this story.


UPDATE: 8/1/07:
The suicide death of Corporal Marlo Gonzales has prompted hundreds of comments here on WSAZ.com, and has pushed two former troopers to speak out.

On Wednesday, former West Virginia State Trooper Steven Smith talked with NewsChannel 3's Jennifer Cottrill. He says he was abused by the agency -- and accuses the administration of creating the kind of stress that could have led to Gonzales' suicide.

"We're all supposed to be on the same team, but they treat you like you just committed the worst crime," said Smith. It's supposed to be a brotherhood and it's not."

WSAZ spoke with Colonel Dave Lemmon over the phone Wednesday. He says he doesn't want to comment on what he calls anonymous allegations.

WEB EXTRA: scroll down to the video player to watch the unedited interview with Smith.


UPDATE: 7/26/07
We have new information about the allegations posted on our webchannel about the West Virginia State Police.

More than 500 comments have been submitted to WSAZ.com after the suicide death of Corporal Marlo Gonzales. Many of the comments blame the administration at the state police for not doing enough to help Gonzales.

We talked with the office that oversees the state police Thursday -- and a spokesperson tells us the office has received some of the same complaints, but all have been anonymous. We're told someone needs to go on the record in order for action to be taken.

Colonel Lemmon, who is the target of many of the accusations, did not want to do an interview with us when we contacted him earlier this week.


UPDATE: 7/25/07
Governor Manchin is calling for those who want change to come forward. That's what he told WSAZ in an interview Wednesday morning when we asked him about the allegations posted on this story.

"I know you hear rumors and blaming," said Manchin. "I have not seen any evidence, whatsoever; but, we're going to work through it to make the system better."

Governor Manchin says not one person has called his office to complain.

"No one should ever be anonymous. If you have a constructive complaint, a way to make things better, please come forward. People should not have to work or live in fear. It's not how this government is run, not how this administration operates, and I won't tolerate it in any branches of our administration," said Manchin.

Former trooper Jason Gilley spoke to WSAZ regarding the way he was treated when he was working for the West Virginia State Police.

Gilley says the current administration at the WVSP forced him to resign in January. He said he was even threatened physically by one of his supervisors.

From the Associated Press:
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) - Governor Manchin has asked a cabinet secretary and the State Police to study the issue of suicide among police officers in the wake of a trooper's death last week.

The governor wants Military Affairs and Public Safety Secretary Jim Spears to see if other states have grappled with the problem. Manchin also wants to know whether there are any procedures that can be used to reduce the risk of another suicide.

Two state troopers have committed suicide in West Virginia since 1999. Some studies suggest that the suicide rate among police officers is three times higher than that of the general population.

Last week, 39-year-old Corporal Marlo Gonzales was found dead in his cruiser from a bullet fired from his service weapon.

On July Second, 1999, State Police Senior Trooper Rodney Robinson shot and killed his former girlfriend before turning his gun on himself.

After Gonzales' death, State Police Colonel David Lemmon said police were at a loss to explain why the trooper might have taken his own life.


UPDATE: 7/24/07
As a result of the comments and allegations posted about this story and the West Virginia State Police, WSAZ contacted the West Virginia State Police and Governor Joe Manchin's office.

Colonel Lemmon says his thoughts are with the family of Corporal Gonzales at this point, but he did not wish to speak on camera regarding the comments posted on WSAZ.com.

A spokesperson for Governor Joe Manchin, Lara Ramsburg, says Governor Manchin asked Secretary Jim Spears, head of military affairs and public safety, to look into the matter -- and to look into what's happening on a national level with state police, troopers, and law enforcement in general.

Stay with WSAZ.com as we hear more from the investigation.


ORIGINAL STORY
West Virginia State Police are investigating a deadly shooting involving one of their own.

Police say Corporal Marlo Gonzales shot and killed himself Wednesday night near his home on Sycamore Road in Hurricane. His father-in-law found his body inside his police cruiser, dressed in uniform.

State Police say he shot himself with his service revolver.

The investigation is in the preliminary stages, but troopers did say he shot himself with his service revolver.

Gonzales was a 13-year veteran of the department. He was stationed at the Clay County Detachment, but was recently assigned to the detachment in South Charleston.

Colonel D.L. Lemmon says he was a friendly guy and this has taken people who work with him by surprise.

Troopers say Gonzales was on duty at the time of the shooting. Corporal Gonzales has a wife and three children. He was 39 years old.

Stay with WSAZ.com for the latest information.

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Posted by: Bruce on Jul 10, 2008 at 06:23 AM
what a crock you thing Joe is going to do anything? look at what happened at WVU and his daughter who do you think is the king of the good ol boy's. Vote Russ Weeks & show Joe we don't approve of his good ol boy network.
Posted by: Dale on Feb 14, 2008 at 01:35 PM
The self-imposed code of silence by troopers is a factor. They see so much abuse of the system by criminals, government officials and fellow troopers and are not allowed to speak out about it. It's frowned on by troopers to "snitch" on one of their own. When this attitude is gone we should see improvements.
Posted by: Lost Another on Feb 13, 2008 at 07:51 AM
Another WV State Trooper committed suicide at 10:30 pm last night 2/12/2008
Posted by: ANNA BARNES on Nov 28, 2007 at 10:49 AM
I AM 74YROLD AND I.HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TREATED VERRY NICE BY WVA POLICE GOD BLESS THIS FAMILY
Posted by: Xenia & Melinda on Sep 26, 2007 at 02:50 AM
We wanted to say, if anyone is still reading this, thank you for everything you do (all of the men and women in uniform who put their lives on the line for us everyday and get very little appreciation.) Your jobs are hard, and people sometimes act as if having police protection is something that will always be there...but it is, because of people like you. In spite of all the criticism, there are many more people out here who do appreciate you. We can go to sleep at night because we know you are out there, and no matter what the few have to say about "bad cops etc." the many say God bless you. Please, when you go out to do the job people depend on, remember this, you are not alone, and it is our hope and prayer, that you return home safe, and that you understand, people care about you. You do a fantastic job and we want you to know, we appreciate it.
Posted by: Xenia on Sep 24, 2007 at 02:45 AM
Well, some time has gone by, and I have not heard anything about the investigation into the tragic death of Trooper Gonzalez. Has anyone else? I am doing a research project at Marshall, and my topic is the psychological effects of occupational stress on law enforcement. I would be very interested in hearing some of the problems that are causing our state police to have to work under conditions most people would find difficult if not impossible. There are so many rules and so many people you have to be responsible to, it just doesn't seem fair...and when they ask for a little understanding, it seems that everyone thinks being a police officer means you somehow become less than human. I am finding in my research that there is far more occupational stress than stress that is felt through critical incidents. Is that true, and what would it take to make the job easier, not only for the officers, but also for the administration, I am sincerely interested in learning more.
Posted by: JC on Sep 2, 2007 at 09:41 PM
Any word from the result of the nvestigation in the reason for suicide of Marlo Gonzales?. Do the Troopers Asspciation need to initiate an independent investigation with a real investigator with non vias approach?. Does any one realy believe the crap they said that it was marital woes that caused marlo to comit suicide?. Why did not he do it while off duty if it was marital woes?. why is the siucide note-video not being discused by the SP to back up their theory!??. What kind of threat was made to te SP Investigator in order to clear the real responsible party (s) in this rail road detail?.. STILL LOTS OF QUESTION PEOPLE... DO NOT GO SLEEP... ONE OF OUR OWN IS IN THE GROUND... KEEP THE BLOGS... KEEP SCREAMING OUT TE OUTRAGE IN OUR RANKS OR BE SILENT FOREVER...
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 2, 2007 at 01:08 PM
Susan ---ill bet you really fired him up! RIGHT!! you was probably thinking youd like to say something but fear and common sense kicked in and you knew you didnt want to go to jail. And its like JC said until you step up to the plate and get a job as a police officer then you probably shouldnt say anything. I seriously doubt you are going to confront a man who is drunk and shooting a gun. Or picking a dead baby out of a vehicle dont tell these guys anything about stress.....oh and learn how to spell!!
Posted by: JC on Aug 28, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Continuation to Susan: You said they are not better than you right. Until the bullets fly and you hit the floor, run or scream. Others might find enough courage to call 9-11 but only one kind will runn to confront the person wit the gun, and it is not you. I meant what I say. Give them a brake. I would encourage you to travell to other states and attempt to get by with that attitude or Talk like that to a Deputy in Logan Co, Mingo or Welch. I am sure you will not get the same responce you got from Tpr Barney. Dont get me wrong. You might be nice lady with a good life, but venting that frustration in this blog was out of line. Gonzales did handled stress very well. He was not violent or arrogant. He died in uniform in a last attempt to send a message. It was a combination of lots of thing. Not Family problems. He did not shoot himself in civilan clothes with his personal gun in his house. He died in Uniform and on duty. They would not give him the time to do this on his own time.
Posted by: JC on Aug 28, 2007 at 10:39 PM
To Susan: Sorry about your experience. Stress did not have anything with you crash right, what in the .... does Barney and your attitude have to do with Gonzale's dead. It seems like you are one of those people that if you do not get your way you slap aery police officer in the face, regardless if they had anything to do to your case or not. There are good cops and bad cops. Marlo Gonzales was a good Trooper (Not a violent or arrogant person as you described the other trooper). Your comments are way out of line. Using your anger to slap a family in the face after a tragic lost. No one is perfect but you get what you pay for. The WV Sp is still a great organization and I am sure in your case you have have big expectations out a Big $1.00 buck of you Tax that go to Law enforcement in one month. We promiss not spend it all in one place. Did you bother in asking if that Trooper had not just picked up a dead baby in a fire, or a battered wife in a hospital crying infront of her todler?
Posted by: Hmmm on Aug 28, 2007 at 03:30 PM
Anyone hear from Manchin or Spears yet? I know they've gotten lots of correspondence--signed with addresses and phone numbers.
Posted by: Melinda Snuffer on Aug 28, 2007 at 03:00 AM
Ok this news story is to tell our Governor we have issues in Charleston and us tax payers and voters know this. For Susan and everyone else to carry on about stupid stories about certain cops, their is "REALLY" no need for it. The Barney cops "USED TO BE A CHIEF IN RAINELLE". The ones here now how to tell who is at fault or not especially at walmart! I can do a citizens arrest on alot of morons I see on the roads. But I don't I laugh it off unless their drinking. What everyone needs to remember is if you think the job is so darn easy you go through the training "IF" you can get in, and lets see how you would treat people when they got an attitude with you for doing your job. Do you think their going to kiss butt when your in the wrong? W.W.J.D. Everyone seems to NEVER remember this phrase. What would Jesus do? Set the example for the immaturity in our society! GOD Bless to the men & woman who risk their lives at work.
Posted by: Susan on Aug 27, 2007 at 06:41 AM
if these officers cant handle the stress they need to find a new job, before they get someone hurt.the one I encountered over the weekend needs an attitude adjustment. you dont speak to people the he TRIED to speak to me, I simply put in back in his tree where he belongs! I told him flat out! DONT talk to me like that, and thats what I meant, he is no beter than I am. A lady had hit us in the walmart parking lot and trooper "BARNEY" showed up like he was there to save the day.he didnt do anything except make himself look stupid. I am not IMpressed at all with the Wva State Police, exspecially that officer.
Posted by: Ann Richards on Aug 26, 2007 at 12:33 PM
When I heard of Marlo's passing from this present world, it struck me in the heart. I knew that I was feeling his mother's pain. Although we have lived with limited contact for several years, time had not lessened the bond between us, in spirit and even in blood. Angelina was there for me when my husband took his own life. Our children grew up together in this neighborhood of Nobe,WV.and were as brothers and sisters. When we lost Marlo, we lost family.There is no comfort for a brokenhearted mother who has lost her child. How many have thought of Angie? A mother carries her children in her heart forever. When Angie wept at Teays Valley, I wept. This will never go away. Nothing will replace the father that Marlo was, or the son, or the brother, or the policeman that he was. Those who knew of his unhappiness should have contacted his family members who knew him from childhood. Marlo had made this known. Why was it kept secret? Respect to Marlo's sons, Angie,Bobby,Joseph,Nancy and Tammy.
Posted by: Former WVSP Civillian on Aug 22, 2007 at 05:03 PM
I worked almost 20 years as a WVSP civilian. Our troopers have one of the most dangerous, thankless jobs possible. They put their lives on the line for us 24/7. They have enough stress on a daily basis, without worrying about what type of punishment the administration is going to mete out next. One would think the current governor would have the guts to stand up for them, admit he made a mistake, and appoint a Colonel who knew how to treat these professional men who risk so much for the citizens of WV. Gonzo was a good man, always ready to make someone smile. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family. WAKE UP WV politicians!!! You're not invincible, despite your lack of consciences. If the media and citizens of WV don't stand up and do something about the travesty of the current WVSP administration - shame on you!
Posted by: Walsh451 on Aug 22, 2007 at 03:06 AM
Now a former Trooper with almost 8 years when I resigned in 2006; I never served on a detachment with Gonzales, I only worked details here and there with him. From what I remember of his reputation, when he was allowed to actually do his job, he was a model of what other Troopers should strive to be like. My thoughts and prayers are with the Gonzales family. I also pray for those who continue to wear the green. It was an honor to serve the citizens of WV. It was also an honor to serve with the fellow Troopers who do the job with their heart for the right reasons. May God Bless the West Virginia State Police.
Posted by: Curious on Aug 20, 2007 at 09:21 PM
WSAZ where's an update on the so-called "investigation"? Is thia televeision station in Joe Manchin's "hi pocket" too?
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 19, 2007 at 11:41 PM
An old friend from Nobe. My deepest condolances to Marlo's mother, Angie and brothers, Bobby and Joe.
Posted by: NOT THIS TIME on Aug 19, 2007 at 08:40 AM
To"NO CHANGE"You are Very Right about all of this being just TALK.Most of the people posting knew nothing would be invest.and things would pick up where THEY left off.Posting my comments "cost me a Traffic Ticket that should have just been a warning.This cost me well over $600.00!1 or 2 people will never have a chance to over come a Pack Of Hungry Wolves!
Posted by: No Change on Aug 18, 2007 at 02:17 PM
So......all this has only been talk? Why isn't this on the 'most comments' link? Has anyone been contacted by Jim Spears who is 'investigating'? I know we haven't!
Posted by: D.S. on Aug 18, 2007 at 12:02 AM
I have foolowed this story from the moment I came home from work and learned of Trooper Gonzales death. I find it interesting that here we are a month later and the story has died down and I expect will be swept under the rug just as most of us expected. There has been no update in the past week from WSAZ on this story. Why? WSAZ was the only news station who "seemed" to care that this investigation take place and now even they have dropped it from their daily web-site. Governor Joe is doing just what he planned all along...he knew it would all die down eventually and he wouldn't have to stand up and take the heat on this one! He's a jerk!
Posted by: A on Aug 17, 2007 at 07:12 AM
From a mother's perspective I am writing.I have buried a son before his time and there is no recovery.Time does not take care of it, but you do get used to the pain and hole inside and learn to go on.Learning to handle the anger is another task to be reckoned with.As for the reason that this traggic death happened, it may never be known for sure.From comments posted I believe there are extreme problems with WVSP and they need a place to have a voice.I hope things there will begin to change.As for the reason that Marlo died, nothing should be assumed.I know when it comes to protecting your children, a parent can wear many masks to keep them from knowing truths that might hurt them.Multitudes of people knew Marlo, but it seems to me that possibly no one would have known him any better than his mother and brothers.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 15, 2007 at 09:26 PM
I'm tired of going to all the trouble to write comments and WSAZ not posting them.If your not going to post all comments then why even bother with it at all.Now I can understand not posting comments with dirty words.
Posted by: Tired of Winning on Aug 15, 2007 at 03:56 PM
I am tired of other Law Enforcement and some WVSP officers bashing and comparing numbers with each other. Its not a race. I am a Troop and I can care less who is winning in stats. Thats what's wrong with our dept in the first place. Nor do I care if you get to turn your reports over to an investigator, or you do yours all the way through, or we serve DVPs, we file the sex offenders and fingerprint humanity for jobs. Everyone of you should shut up and just take police calls. WVSP has idiots in charge. So what? That will change next administration like it always does. Stop letting them think we are in a race for stats and when you get EPA'd for low activity So Chas. Troops, get a copy of your buddy's EPA from a slow county along with his her stats and ask why they get paid the same to do less work to your attorney.
Posted by: Tired of Whining on Aug 15, 2007 at 12:00 PM
This site is becoming a bigger joke then the WVSP are. All the whinning about how they have to do this, how they do that. I believe all the Law Enforcement officers have done the same work they do. The oly difference is they can not pick and choose what calls they take like the WVSP does. Check your local 911 and get the facts.
Posted by: JOEY on Aug 14, 2007 at 07:20 PM
MY CONDOLENCES TO THE GONZALES FAMILY FIRST AND FOREMOST. I AM FROM NJ/NYC AREA AND FOUND THIS STORY QUITE INTERESTING . I MYSELF FIND THE STATE POLICE TO BE MUCH MORE RESPECTFUL TOWARDS THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAN THE MUNICIPAL COPS. MUNICIPAL COPS HAVE A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER FOR SOME REASON. POSSIBLY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT TROOPERS. NOW EVERY GOVERNMENT AGENCY IN THIS COUNTRY I AM SURE HAS THEIR LITTLE POLITICAL POWER TRIPS. WHAT I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND IS WHY THE SUICIDE RATE IS SO HIGH FOR COPS. I MEAN EVERY COMPANY I WORKED FOR HAS A CORPORATE LADDER, AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE TRIES TO MAKE THEIR COMPETITOR LOOK BAD, AND THIS PERSON SLEPT WITH THE BOSS SO THAT IS WHY SHE RECIEVED A PROMOTION. BUT MY BEEF WITH PEOPLE WHO WORK IN LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL OVER NJ AT LEAST IS THAT THEY THINK THEY ARE EXEMPT TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS. WHEN THEY ARE OFF DUTY AND ON DUTY. I DONT KNOW IF YOU READ NYC/NJ NEWS BUT ITS EVERY WEEK NOW THAT YOU HEAR OF A FAMILY WIPED OUT FROM A DRUNK OFF-DUTY COP
Posted by: Friend of the Troops on Aug 14, 2007 at 01:22 PM
Well, it's almost action time. This place, originally intended to be an outlet for those to express grief and to honor Gonzo, has essentially deteriorated into a haven for malcontents and ne'er do wells. You decide if that is you or not. Now is the time to move beyond this site and start to put your words into action. If you truly do have legitimate concerns and/or grievance with the WVSP, you have an obligation to bring it to the light of day...that is if you are sincerely worried that more people will take the actions Gonzo did because of the way the WVSP does "business". Step up and be a man about this if it really is that bad. You owe it to yourselves, your families, other Troops and the good people of the State of WV. If you are not willing to take this critical step, and things are that bad, then it's time to either shutup or get out. Show some pride and dignity. In the long run you will not be sorry. Sincerely, A Friend.
Posted by: trooper on Aug 14, 2007 at 12:55 AM
this response is to the ignorant anonymous who says troopers need to be sent to la or dc. my question to you is how many times have you been arrested? how much do you collect from the government every month? i am a wv trooper and i have two cousins that work for nypd! they both told me they would never do my job! they have backup when they need it. hundreds of officers nearby. in my job backup is 40 minutes away!! your comments are so ignorant i cant believe wsaz even posted them!! i have investigated murders, sexual assualts, drug crimes etc on a weekly basis. atvs and parole violatiions are probably what you were picked up for! sir/madam you have no clue what the job of wv trooper is. your comments are an insult to the gonzalez family and the rest of the wvsp if you have an ax to grind because of your criminal record find another forum other than a comment section for a trooper who took his own life due to job related stress. try the hur herald calhoun undergrd or other radicals
Posted by: WV Deputy Sheriff on Aug 14, 2007 at 12:09 AM
I know things sometime feel like an uphill battle, however, we all have problems that will always be there. I have fought politics for almost 25 years now. We get paid to do this sometimes thankless job. Let's work together and do the best we can for the public we were sworn to protect. There are so many good citizens and fellow officers that expect and need us to be on the top of our game. Stand tall, be proud of WV and proud of the department and profession we chose. This comment section will not accomplish one thing. If things are unbearable, the majority must unite as one and demand a change.
Posted by: JC on Aug 13, 2007 at 08:43 PM
To the ones comparing State Police to Sheriffs and local Police. It is true some are priviledge to good training. and some have it short. regardless all of us are Brothers in arms. Stop the fight and comparisons. The real Police officer is made by his actions and not the uniform. Dont compare power or work load. We all are in te same side. It is the big me little you atititude that they used on Marlow, and you see the results. His own people made his life miserable with that BIG MAN attititude towards him. Is that what they were trained to do?, and by who? how many big Troops does it take to belittle another?.... Be brothers and watch for each other in te street. Me and you is all we have as back up. Stop the nagging and get to work on who pushed Marlow. and do it profecionally, lets not lower our selves to their level. Use the proper chain of Cmmnd and Authority. Keep pushing the Gov. until he has no more excuse to turna deaf ear.
Posted by: JC on Aug 13, 2007 at 08:33 PM
To Anonymous: In reference to the comment of Sending our Troops to NY. May be we need NY cops in WV with NY taxes and NY crime rate. Yeah! new york mafia.... o wait we have that. it is the Lemon-Mancin adm. Be real and get a job preferently in NY. People like you made us prod of the South.
Posted by: 10yrsspecializedlaw on Aug 13, 2007 at 04:33 PM
Don't worry about your IP address. The best thing that could happen to you is if they would get your IP address. You're biggest problem would be, would you own the State Police and give WSAZ to your spouse or the other way around? Lawyers would be lined around the block to take your case. Relax I'll be in line.........
Posted by: RetiredandSad on Aug 13, 2007 at 04:12 PM
I think it's time for the troops to take the Nancy Boy gloves that the liberals forced on us off. Police the state like we policed it when I was in. We got respect, if not given, we took it. We tryed to police our areas using mutual respect, if that didn't work we policed it with fear and that always works with coward criminals who prey on the week. We all realized that ALL police officers were doing the same job and considered ourselves lucky but not better for being troopers. TAKE YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE STATE BACK and let the chips fall where they may. With Honor and Courage you may die but cannot fail. If someone like Barnett invites you outside, take him up on it. I'm pretty sure he'll stay in his chair.......To all the mouth fighters on this blog........if you are not a cop, if you have never had to pick up a weapon and take that step forward then please shut your sewers.Leave the troops alone or you may find them leaving you alone.
Posted by: To WVSP SADBunch on Aug 13, 2007 at 03:56 PM
Don't worry, the way we're firing people, we'll have another class soon and you can try again.Then again, maybe you should stay where you have backup right beside you. You might not be able to handle a situation alone for an hour or so. The Buckskin Council is looking for good den leaders as well, if your interested.....
Posted by: To Anonymous on Aug 13, 2007 at 03:48 PM
I think what you mean is send some cops from New York or LA to WV and let them see what it's like to work as the only cop in an entire county for a weekend. The usual backup for a trooper in a rural county is 45 minutes. The average time for backup in New York is as soon as your partner can get out of the car. Get some sense and your facts straight.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 13, 2007 at 10:25 AM
More training in the academy doesn't mean more training period. And certainly doesn't mean more experience. Sorry, just the facts.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 13, 2007 at 08:41 AM
The troopers who are complaining need to be sent to New York city or LA or DC and see what police work really is,see what it really is to putt your life on the line.Aboult two days of that and they would be begging to come back to WV With Col.Lemmon where all they have to do is chase kids on atv's and pick up parole violators from arrests allready made by better trained Federal law enforcment.
Posted by: response on Aug 13, 2007 at 03:54 AM
To WVSPSadBunch: you're way off the mark with your statement concerning a trooper's workload in relationship to other law enforcement officers. Get your facts straight before you make such statements. Cadets receive more training than their Basic Officer counterparts, and they are held to a higher standard. In the United States, there is a term known as federalism. Under federalism, the WVSP has statewide jurisdiction. That's just the way it is. Troopers are not god-like, but with that fact alone, some perceive Troopers to have such an attitude, when in reality, they do not.
Posted by: Press/? on Aug 12, 2007 at 09:24 PM
Does anyone else think it's odd that there has been no press, etc. about this tragedy and the many complaints about the WVSP anywhere except WSAZ? Manchin/Lemmon have "no comment". Are they just waiting for it to die down?
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 12, 2007 at 07:03 PM
It is quite clear that Manchin has no intentions of making any changes in the leadership of the WVSP when he is attending social functions with the Lemmons. All State workers need to concentrate on next years elections and vote in a real leader, not a dictator.
Posted by: concerned on Aug 12, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Since marlo's death there is a family left hurt , angry, confused, and trying to function to make it in every day life.Life around them has not stopped so they are forced to move forward and it is almost unbearable for each of them right now. I pray that the ones making life so hard for these officers get caught up in it and have to get out. There is PLENTY of proof. Lets all pray that it all comes to where it needs to be and pray for our gov. to do the right thing . No other families need to live in this hell. Unless you have lived life with a loved one in the state police,you have no idea what is going on and the kind of needless stress put on these people.
Posted by: Trooper on Aug 11, 2007 at 09:05 PM
To WVSPSadBunch. Sorry you couldn't get in as a Trooper. I treat every officer with respect. I was a city officer first! And this BS about police in populated areas doing more work in a year than a Trooper does in a career is just a lie. We don't have detectives to take over for us after we arrive on scene, we have to do ALL of the investigation. I have over 100 felony arrest in less than a year, are you anywhere close to that? Oh, and I'm not in a overly populated area either. What is your underlying problem here that you are not telling? Just because you have a problem with some Troopers in your area, don't start spouting off false statistics about job productivity, you won't win. I'll put my stats up against any officer in any agency. I don't think I'm better than another officer. It's people like you who make it hard not to turn that way though. Don't start souding like the rest of the idiots on this site. You are an officer, act like one.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 11, 2007 at 11:24 AM
T0: Posted by praying,I am also sorry for Aaron and his families loss.Most families want answer's when something bad happen's like this.I'm sure Arons family knows he is reading this stuff and writing comments.Aarons faimly will hear about this from friend's, family, school,s churches etc.Just maybe he needs to talk about it.Who are you putting down here? You say you are praying & working full time, But like the rest of us you are reading this. Why? If it was your family, job & work place what would you do? Aaron hold your head up high!
Posted by: WVSPSadBunch on Aug 11, 2007 at 05:05 AM
Gonzo R.I.P. Being in law enforcement for over 10 years I know the problems with the WVSP. They are a control hungry bunch. They wanted a spot in the Kanawha County's Drug Unit but pulled out when they couldn't have full control of the entire unit. Same goes with the Kanawha County 911 system, they didn't join until recently because they couldn't contol it. The admin at WVSP is horrible in that they train these guys that they are better than any other policeman in the state. The simple truth is a policeman in a populated area like Charleston/Huntington does more police work in a year than a trooper does in his/her career. They have to change the entire attitude of the agency because no department likes to work with any WVSP department. Of course there are a few good troopers but as a whole no deputies or officers like to work with them because of their godlike attitudes. The Lemmon admin has enstilled that worse than any other that I have seen. It is sad.
Posted by: Please Please Please on Aug 10, 2007 at 10:38 AM
"WSAZ also requested the number of transfers between all detachments in the state for the last decade, but the WVSP says there is no specific record kept of those." The person(s) who advised WSAZ the above told a lie straight out of the gates of hell. There absolutely is a record of all transfers, promotions, demotions, whether permanent or temporary. The WVSP has that information, and is attempting to stonewall the news media in this regard. Take them to court, WSAZ. Demand that they produce the information. It will be most enlightening. Get to them before they crank up the commercial grade shredders in the basement of Department HQ.
Posted by: trooper-public has no idea- on Aug 10, 2007 at 12:18 AM
i just finished working 19 and half straight hours. covering 2 different counties because of man power shortages. during that shift, i was cursed at, one resisted arrest, another trooper had a large object thrown at him standing next to me, i havent seen my children for three days, i have had little sleep and when i got back to the office i found enough paperwork to last 6 months along with a stack of court subpeoenas most of which are scheduled during my off time when im suppose to be with my family. i also gave a deposition in a civil case for an accident i worked. as far as any person in the private sector who says we have it easy and quit to complaining please tell me if your last airconditioned 8 hour shift was anything like mine and if you needed backup going to the copying machine. but you know what i do the job because i love it. the only thing i expect is a little respect from the public we serve but that simply doesnt happen anymore. people take the wvsp for granted!
Posted by: justathought on Aug 10, 2007 at 12:17 AM
WSAZ, good job on the statistics,..the WVSP, told you that they could not provide the number of transfers?. It is my understanding that all tranfers, are usaully done on orders,..you would think that orders/ special orders would have to be kept on file,..sounds like they are getting one over on you,..maybe your getting too close to something.
Posted by: praying on Aug 9, 2007 at 03:10 PM
you know, this blog was set up (I thought) for people to express their sympothy for this trooper's family. There is no since in people saying all these things about the WVSP or any other agency on this comment page. I work full time and I understand the frustration of a job, but this is not the place for it. I just read Aarons comments and bless his heart. I hate that they (his son's or family) have to read this stuff and there is no reason for it. I am so sorry for this family and they will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers. I am so sorry for your lose. God Bless each of you.
Posted by: Bill W. on Aug 9, 2007 at 10:08 AM
Right this minute, the current administration, and the top dogs in these agencies, are scrambling to see how many of You/Us, that are still working in these agencies, they can poll to see if You/We will help bail them out now. They are now concerned about being the past administration. If there not contacting those who they believe will fall back in with them, they know they have You/Us already. They are desperate for assistance. They will be asking for Your help “NOW”. What will You / We get if We fold now..........? More of the same!!! They have been considering, in private meetings, pay raises for State Employees in 2009. Naturally, those are the raises not awarded the working people for the last three years. Suddenly, the State has an income tax surplus. You will hear of planning for road repairs. You will be getting hints of pay raise for all State Employees effective “Sometime” after January 2009. Don't split.. "Let Them Contiune To Destruct"
Posted by: Citizen on Aug 9, 2007 at 09:07 AM
I am sorry about Trooper Ganzale and sorry for the loss his family must feel.I think people RESPECT the Good W.V. STATE TROOPER'S.I also think they should be heard and allowed to voice their opinion's about their job's and work place, and how they feel just like anyone else.Their is alway's a few rotten apples in all walks of life.People read the comment's you might just learn something you don't know.I have! WSAZ keep posting this site!
Posted by: Eddie Smith on Aug 9, 2007 at 01:46 AM
TO Miamimadman, your comments among police officer killing themselves for guilt, how would you know, that it was for something horribly wrong, there are many reasons why, none good to kill yourself, guilt for not doing enough, doing to much, unable to seperate the job and life, there is more to it than that. Rodney Robinson was a good man and good trooper, up until he did what he did then committed suicide. Anyone can get to that point, the average age of a police officer or life expectancy is 55 years old, national average of everyone else 77. Why is that because we get killed or kill ourselves, and we kill ourselves in a variety of ways, stress, bullets, bad diets, bad hours, alcohol, ect......
Posted by: Brass Row on Aug 8, 2007 at 10:05 PM
If the administration isn't concerned about these 'anonymous' postings, then why are they trying so hard to find out from WSAZ all who are writing these postings????? It has been told that HQ is having WVSP computers checked to see if any postings are coming from them. And the governor says to come forward, and you will not have to worry about being retaliated against. They're so worried now, they're running around in circles trying to find a head to hunt!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 8, 2007 at 06:35 PM
Word from a little birdie is that the WVSP administration is putting pressure on WSAZ to release to them the information on who has been posting on this blog. They're wanting the IP addresses apparently. I guess the pressure is starting to get to them on front row.....
Posted by: Bill W. on Aug 8, 2007 at 03:39 PM
It is obvious that there is major problems within MAPS' Regional Jail Authority and the SP. Why not just demand that an independent forum be established to oversee the investigation process into these two agencies and see how many others shake out as well. The outcome will likely be the appointments made at the top of these agencies. It is obvious that both the WVRJA Ex. Director and Col. Lemmon are both micro managing these agencies into the ground. It is also well known that both of these agencies are having problems keeping personnel, as well as a major problem in attracting additional staffing. Airing differences within the SP is not getting to the point. Those issues can be dealt with later. As a matter of fact, once the administration gets their heads on straight, and get rid of these Major Disasters at the top of these very good, and viable agencies, they will likely be solving many of the very problems being aired here within the SP. "Don't Be Divided Now". Let them distruct.
Posted by: FORMER OFFICER on Aug 8, 2007 at 03:29 PM
RE:ENOUGHS ENOUGH, I am sure u would like this to be shut down but like someone said before on here, if u don't like what is being said here don't read it! This isn't just about the Troopers suicide, it's about all state workers, it's about the state of WV. Have u not read all the comments here? Everyone feels for the family of Trooper Gonzales enough to post and want A CHANGE NOW IN WV!! Besides, everything that has been said has not been posted here so rest assure WSAZ is doing no one any wrong. It's not going away, it's time for a change WV, we can make it happen ELECTION 2008!
Posted by: tired troop on Aug 8, 2007 at 03:04 PM
what is wrong with all you people can you not see that the current gov. is cut from the same bad cloth as the current adm. of the wvsp. all the people looking in who think things are funny now won't be laughing so loud when they become a number in the wvsp quato paying thier $160.50 plus ticket.
Posted by: Citizen on Aug 8, 2007 at 01:17 PM
Has the ability to communicate on an adult level been lost forever? Why would people obviously concerned in the issues described in these comments, not agree to discuss them in a civil manner? Nothing can, nor will be resolved, as long as supposed adults continue to have the kind of discourse with one another, that hopefully they discourage their children from participating in.
Posted by: Enough To Enough on Aug 8, 2007 at 01:02 PM
Why are you still posting on this web site if YOU think it's enough. Stop reading if you don't like it. Maybe, just maybe, it make people feel better, maybe not you, but other who need to vent in what ever way so if you don't like it the don't read the postings anymore. Thank you WSAZ for posting this site for the real people who need it. God Bless us all in our time of need.
Posted by: Taxpayer on Aug 8, 2007 at 12:50 PM
To: Enoughs Enough Why are you on here reading if your not interested!!!
Posted by: Miamimadman on Aug 8, 2007 at 12:02 PM
For what it's worth: I've noticed that suicide among cops is caused by guilt. I didn't know this man and I don't know his personal history,but in the big picture-Most police who take their own life do so because they felt guilt for something they had done(or percieved themselves as doing) something horribly wrong.
Posted by: Enoughs Enough on Aug 8, 2007 at 09:38 AM
Come on WSAZ, WHy don't you shut this down? We know the man killed himself, for why we don't know. We also know the the WVSP are complaining. So why keep this running. If they dont like their job then they need to get out and let real men wear the uniform like they used to. Come on SHUT THIS DOWN.
Posted by: Kim on Aug 8, 2007 at 09:28 AM
Hey Troop. Do you ever make a point? Does it make you mad that you can't get at my head with your night stick? I'll bet it does. I'll bet you'd give me a nice attitude adjustment back at headquarters if you could wouldn't you? Well, you can't abuse your postition on this board like you do out there on the highways late at night. You can't get at the detractors of the thug element in law enforcement. Troop, try reading the bill of rights instead of watching NASCAR. You might learn something.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:48 AM
TO THE BIRD ON THE WIRE: IF YOUR STATMENTS ARE TRUE THEN 2008 ELECTIONS COULD GET VERY INTERESTING. GOV. MANCHIN IF WHAT RUTH KNOWS COULD RUIN YOUR CAREER THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. WE WOULD ALL HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR YOU! OH PLEASE PRES. CLINTONS INDESCRETIONS HAVE NOT HURT HIS APPROVAL RATING AT ALL. BUT THE LEMMONS ARE DOING A NUMBER ON YOURS. PUT AND END TO THIS AND LEND YOUR STATE SOME AIDE AND SQUEEZE THE LEMMONS OUT. OR THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED YOU IN 2004 MAY CLOSE THE DOOR TO YOUR "OPEN FOR BUSINESS". 2008 MAY NOT BE SO GREAT! FOLLOW YOUR CONSCIENCE AND LET THIS TROOPERS FAMILY HAVE SOME PEACE. 2007 IS COMING VERY QUICKLY TO AND END AS THEY SAY OUT WITH THE "OLD MAN" AND IN WITH A NEW ONE. COL. LEMMON SHOULD RETIRE AND LEAVE WHILE HE STILL HAS SOME DIGNITY STILL LEFT TO YOUR NAME. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT HIS MEN DO NOT RESPECT HIM! AS FOR THOSE IN THE F.O.L.D. YOU COULD FIND YOUR SELVES FOLLOWING OUT LITTLE DAVE TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE IF THE TRUTH COMES OUT.
Posted by: Bill W. on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:17 AM
It's not hard to figure that much of the information posted here has the Troops pointing at some of there own, or each other. "DIVIDE AND CONQUER”, that could be exactly what is hoped for here. “That is certainly what they need now to survive”. The more a group of individuals begin to point out each others faults, they quickly get away from the core problems. Everyone has faults. The core problems here is obviously the administration and the appointments they made along the way. What is very likely [shaping up] to happen here, is exactly what the agency heads and the administration needs to happen, .” Split The Opposition”. These are suggestions only, everyone out here are big boys and girls and can make up their own minds about what may, or may not be, happening now. There are too many core issues being placed in the background now. Certainly, this is only one persons perspective.... You decide. It’s what you have established right now, that you have to work with. Don’t be divided.
Posted by: Bill W. ( Continued ) on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:15 AM
You have people staying up at night wandering when this all will go away, “OR”, ” what in the world are they to have to now to fix it. Ths is where you “NEED” them to be. Needing to fix it. Many of the postings here “are” from the inside. The inside working outward will “DIVIDE AND CONQUER”. An explosion in that manner will make the primary issues fade away, and they win again, and keep on multiplying within as they pull [suck] those from the outside in. Now what may be something to consider here, and many of you stand to win big, or lose bigger. Which do you want? Band back together now, assure yourselves that the inside is now working outward to split you apart. Work out your personal differences later. Accomplish the priority issues now, before they just fade away. There is a smoke screen now developing. And no one, writing these articles [comments], is being put down here.
Posted by: Hmmm... on Aug 8, 2007 at 12:34 AM
Looks to me like Steve Smith would have been better off to have laid low--under that rock where he crawled--after he got the well-deserved boot from the WVSP. His desire for 15 minutes of fame will only likely subject him to more scrutiny than he bargained for. When the good citizens of Belle realize what kind of person they have "Protecting" and "Serving" them they're going to be asking their Mayor and city council for a full explanation. Time to freshen up that resume, dude.
Posted by: In response to Calhoununderground on Aug 7, 2007 at 11:02 PM
I’m delighted that you can show tons of people how truly ignorant you are.Your entire post was entertaining but I found, “We are under military attack!” to your best comment! Ive visited Calhoun and I can recall some negative aspects of the region. None of which include covert operations, or shrapnel flying into the trenches. These are obvious signs of attack yet most people find it to be a peaceful place to live. It’s obvious that as state troopers, citizens should want them to have adequate training. Or would you rather have some untrained hillbillies out brandishing guns (Kind of like the Calhoun police that were mentioned at some point)? Were you aware that two of the TWO deputies have not even passed their physicals to be accepted into the academy? I think that the real issue is that you are using this blog as free ad space for your website. So why don’t you do us all a favor, cash your SSI check, buy ya some spam and have some respect for the people who put a badge on everyday
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 7, 2007 at 09:50 PM
BRING SOME DIGNTIY BACK TO THESE MEN AND WOMEN GOV. MANCHIN AND PUT TOM KIRK BACK IN AS COL.
Posted by: Great Example of Why on Aug 7, 2007 at 09:25 PM
Officers want to be anonymous: Quote from this article http://news.bostonherald.com/national/midwest/view.bg?articleid=1014685 The officer's complaints were ignored, she sued and won and "Five to six years later, people still don’t talk to me, still don’t trust me," she said. "People look at you like you have five eyes. Nobody talks to you. It’s very lonely."
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 7, 2007 at 08:24 PM
What started out as what could have been a help to the Gonzales family has now turned into a vent line to air the WVSP dirty laundry. As much as there needs to be a change in the WVSP hiearchy, we are fooling ourselves if we think it will happen. The only thing that will happen is the State will withhold funding from us when the legislature convenes in February.The public will tire of hearing the woes of the SP and it will be swept under the rug and forgotten. It would be great if something positive could come out of this. I guess I am a pessimist, because I seriously doubt anything good can come of this. The WVSP has lost the respect of many through this ordeal and the events leading up to this.
Posted by: To Aaron on Aug 7, 2007 at 08:12 PM
Aaron I am sorry that you have to read such negative comments. Everyone that truly knew your dad loved and respected him. Don't pay attention to those who have no idea what a life as a trooper or a troopers family is like.No one has a right to discredit anything that you say or feel.Everyone on this blog should be mindful of the negative comments being made about troopers and particularly the comments about Gonzo. If you had known Gonzo you would not be posting the BS because you would realize that something went terribly wrong for this man to take his life. Listen to what Aaron is saying about how his family life changed. I think it speaks volumes about what was going on. Keep your head high Aaron, your dad would be proud.To everyone else, remember at the end of the day that it is this family who has to live with the loss and pain. So be mindful of that before you write!
Posted by: worried on Aug 7, 2007 at 08:06 PM
To Aaron: God Bless You and Your Family! You know your Dad was loved by lots of people, that is why they are on here! The WVSP WAS a wonderful department but the last 2 years have been a different story! I am glad you are telling what's on your heart! It needs to be done. Talk, get it out in the open so people will know what your Dad was going through!
Posted by: Worker on Aug 7, 2007 at 07:57 PM
To Sergeant: You must be one of the ones in South Charleston that people have been talking about!! Being MEAN to the men under you there!Down on WSAZ, WE really appreciate them for doing this for the WVSP to
Posted by: Another Trooper on Aug 7, 2007 at 07:54 PM
To SMT. I huess I'll come to the aid of Trooper! SMT, go down the page and look at all of those "women that need respect" and you will see their ridiculas posts. Some trooper you are, not taking up for the rest of us! And Troop! is not the only one putting those two in their place! So lay off and go polish your gold badge or your F.O.L.D membership card. The rest of us will take care of our brothers and Marlo's memory. If you are really a trooper, open mouth and insert foot. What a shame you are!
Posted by: Trooper on Aug 7, 2007 at 07:35 PM
To Troop S.M.T. No, if you are really a trooper, you are the disgrace! I am taking up for all the troopers that they are bad mouthing. Or have you not read? I respect all women, the one's that deserve it. You don't earn respect simply because you are a woman. And these two women don't deserve my respect because of their comments. If you bother to look back, they are the ones that started the bad mouthing! I do know Marlo and he was a friend! You my friend are a disgrace to the Green. At least I'm taking up for the Green. You probably are in the F.O.L.D. Tell Barnett and Lemon the real troopers said hi. Right now the only women I don't respect are the ones mentioned and you. So take your psychological bable elsewhere. You are way off the mark.
Posted by: Someone who Cares on Aug 7, 2007 at 07:24 PM
Is anyone with any authority, be it the "governor" or anyone else, listening to what Aaron Gonzales has said here? He knew his father and what his father was feeling regarding his job. Please listen to this young man and get on with this investigation. This family is hurting. They deserve to know the truth and that something is being done to correct the apparent problems within the WVSP. Do this family and Marlo justice. As for those of you who have used this as a place to air your dirty laundry...find somewhere else to vent! You are all self-centered and inconsiderate to not remember the original reason for this blog. Take your callous hearts and leave this blog alone --- Sheila and Kim in particular -- you sound like whiny babies!
Posted by: Troop on Aug 7, 2007 at 05:56 PM
Hey Kim and Shelia, guess I hit the nail on the head with you guys...feels gooood! This is my last post since I have a real life... so type away your continued insults to me and our HARD WORKING, HONEST, BRAVE STATE POLICE!!! We all know who is right and who is wrong...you vagrants. Now you have a glorious day cause I feel great!!
Posted by: Richard on Aug 7, 2007 at 04:22 PM
PEOPLE PLEAS LET THE VICTIM REST IN PEACE ENOUGH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THIS LET IT TAKE ITS COURSE.
Posted by: 13 year vet on Aug 7, 2007 at 01:50 PM
i have read all the comments about captain barnette and his ticket quota. i ahave personally talked to several troops under his command and yes he and some others do have a quota whether they want to admit it or not. barnette needs to go, his troops dont respect him. but one important point i would like to bring to light. last inservice we all were told the the west virginia supreme court was complaining about a drop in revenue from citations and wanted the wvsp to write more keepers. these ar all the same liberal judges overturning drug dealers and murderes convictions, yet they want more tickets writtin?? i was appalled when i heard this as should the rest of the citizens of wv. what part does the west virginia supreme court have in all of these tickets being issued. just more political pressure on troopers to. i can tell you that any captain or superior tells me to write more tickets or threatens bodily harm good luck. and be prepared to fight if the bodily harm thing is said barnete
Posted by: MOVE FORWARD on Aug 7, 2007 at 01:18 PM
I truly think its time to move forward vice spin our wheels bashing.Is there a problem in the Dept? YES.Is the solution bashing online? No.Are there problems in the administration? YES,however two wrongs don't make a right & down talking / being disrespectful ONLINE won't fix a thing.It will prove to be counter productive and in the end will only result in the WVSP being viewed as having more whiners than aggressive problem solvers.Things will get better if we approach from the front, not thru the back door, online. "God bless the Gonzo family".
Posted by: FYI on Aug 7, 2007 at 12:35 PM
FACT: When the WVSP takes a criminal to the WV Regional Jail the COUNTIES pay for those criminals. Which means the STATE in return gets the money for those criminals. Anyone hearing what I am saying? I know, because I worked there. NOW, you go figure that out.
Posted by: I am confussed on Aug 7, 2007 at 12:25 PM
First of all we are listening to people like Steve Smith whom has told me himself that he was always in trouble with the State Police because of the fact that his Ex-wife was sleeping with another trooper and he caused problem for the other trooper at work. Then he was incompentent, I realize that he now works for the Belle City Police Dept. but I am sure that he told some big story and they will figure it out. After leaving the State Police he worked at Mt. Olive Correctional Complex as a Corrections Officer, he was beat up by an inmate after locking doors and putting himself in a bad situation and did not ask for backup, can we say "Stupid." He went around to every small town in Fayette and Kanawha Counties begging for a job as a City Policeman. He is useless--anyone could see that after watching his interview.
Posted by: Bill W. on Aug 7, 2007 at 11:35 AM
RE: end of the line!!! RE: end of the line!!! Looks like some of the administration is begging to shut down the opposition here. They would hope that this just goes away and let it die. It just don't seem practical to let this all just go away. It can only now get worse if things are not put in place to stop it....... Right Now !!! Give in now, and let it take us totally down. It just can’t be the end of the line for all of this. That is exactly what the administration is counting on.... “shutting it down”
Posted by: To Aaron & EVERYONE, the truth is . . . on Aug 7, 2007 at 11:01 AM
There is always dirt in politics, there will always be good & evil. I am sorry for all Gonzos family. The sad truth, Aaron, is that there are people out here that have absolutely been mistreated by WVSP for no reason other than the perverse & sadistic nature of the trooper, man or woman. We can obey the law, & those that have rule over us & still be persecuted because they enjoy belittling people, trying to take their dignity away in order to make them feel better about themselves & what miserable human beings they are. Unfortunately, this appears to be happening to both civilians and troopers. Aaron, if you know there are those who made your father miserable for no reason whatsoever, it should show you that there are those of us out here terrified to say anything for fear of our lives & loved ones. This blog has given us a place to express or fears, but also a place for those ego ridden maniacs to voice theirs. They are afraid of everyone unifying & the truth coming out. Will it?
Posted by: ME on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:57 AM
Hey Governor, why don't you take the State Police from the Lemmons and give it back to the citizens of this state.
Posted by: Trooper S.M.T. on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:45 AM
I will only post one time so it's quick and to the point!I did not know the Trooper that took his life but my prayers go out to his family. This is to the "person"that addresses their self as Troop!You are too young to know how to respect women or you came from a home that speaks low of women.I was taught to have the respect of all women ,all ages,all race.Be it they come from poverty,riches,black,white!Have you forgotten it was a woman that gave birth to you?As I have read some of your comments mainly addressed to 2 women on this blog and you have it in for all women or all the not so wealthy.I hope you aren't a Trooper speaking such trash as you do.You are a disgrace to the Green if you are one of us!
Posted by: Bill W. on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:08 AM
Now, the stage is set. All the Gov. has to do now, is set up that forum to allow those who "DO" want to come forward to have the proper setting. When one tells all under oath, it “TRULY” puts things in a whole new perspective. The truth will likely prevail. Wait, maybe that could be the problem, “the truth”. Could all the real truths put the administration is a worse light than it now appears? Very possible. Some would now like to see a Police Review Board. It once seemed to be too much of a control issue. Now, it looks like an answer to many problems being aired here. With the independent forum, if one can be put one in place without some of the current insiders appointed, things could be shaken out over a couple of months. However, if things are really what is being brought forward here, that will not happen. The next election, may very well, depend on the outcome here. Open for suggestions. Please don't let Gonzo down. This is a real way in showing appreciation to the fallen.
Posted by: Frustrated on Aug 7, 2007 at 09:55 AM
Does anyone really think the Lemmons are going anywhere? Ruth is the true Colonel. She has had her hands in this department for way too long. Everything from Trooper of the Year selection to the changing of orders for Little Dave to protecting Daddy from Manchin. It's sad, disgusting, and disgraceful what the Lemmons have done to our department.
Posted by: State Police Sergeant on Aug 7, 2007 at 09:31 AM
Hey WSAZ why do you keep interviewing these former troopers who were a complete dissapointment. Steve Smith for example failed to mention that his involvement in a pursuit through the city of Charleston while in his personal vehicle after flashing his badge at someone in traffic. He didn't seem to mention that he would routinely seize items and fail to properly document them. He didn't mention the time he removed his badge from his uniform and tryed to turn it in all the time while crying uncontollably. Since his resignation, he has had numerous jobs all ending with him being terminated or resigning. WSAZ, you are way off the mark and are not repoting responsibly.
Posted by: Kim on Aug 7, 2007 at 08:59 AM
Hey Troop, obviously you're taking my posts seriously since you spent time and energy actually responding - and with such acumen I might add. You should win the Pulitzer for that post. Have you met Beth? You two should get along well. She's a member of Mensa when she's not watching Oprah. If I was wrong Troop you wouldn't be so p-oed.
Posted by: end of the line on Aug 7, 2007 at 08:11 AM
ok wsaz time to shut this down all the family has made there comment now.So they are reading all the negative things that make there situation even worse. So for the sake of all shut it down and lets all just get on with it............
Posted by: Shelia on Aug 7, 2007 at 02:53 AM
The only thing I have left to say is that YOU are the one with the AXE and as far as PINHEAD;;;;;well, you know the ol saying"IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE" LMAO!!!WE will see where you sit WHEN THE MAN COMES AROUND!NOW WHO IS WHINNING?Have a nice day now.
Posted by: Aaron cont. on Aug 6, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Then it started to get a little bit rocky. He was transfered to South Charleston, well that was the end of my Dad, he was not the same father that would take me to work or I would see playing with Jacob, he acted as if we were not even there, his response as to why he was acting that way...."work." Some comments have been left about SP are over paid and under work, BS!!! Teachers get paid more, other states pay their troopers 15 to 20 thousand more than WVSP. Yeah, everyone has issues at work. Do you see dead people, go to drug busts, take domestic calls, or get called to shootings at your work. Most likely not, most of you probably sit in an office dealing with computers or paper work, WOW HOW STRESSFUL!!! Yeah sure people will comment after me and say negative things towards me, go ahead I DO NOT CARE!! I LOVED MY FATHER AND HE LOVED "ALL" OF HIS FAMILY! NOT ONE OF YOU HAS A CLUE OF THE STRESS MY FAMILY IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND MOST OF YOU CAN ONLY LEAVE NEGATIVE COMMENTS!!!
Posted by: Bird on a wire on Aug 6, 2007 at 11:10 PM
The WVSP Administration is going nowhere people! Ruth Lemmon has Gov. Joe by the short hairs and we all know that's the only reason the "old Man" got the job in the first place. Why doesn't someone ask Facemyer about Joe's promise to the legislators to get rid of Lemmon by July 1st, but when Ruth found out, she went storming over to the Gov's mansion and told Joe that if he tried to fire her husband, she wouldtake him down and ruin his political career. So the question is...what dirt does she have on Joe, and why does she think the WVSP has to pay the price? Maybe she's threatening to go public about an affair, or maybe go public about a girlfriend who has a baby...Yes folks, politics are a dirt business and you have to be careful with whose bed you crawl into. This administration is pathetic with the exception of a few good men. Major Dave Williams should have been appointed Col. and Lt. Col. Bruce Sloane should have Tucker's position. Tucker has never been for anyone but himself!
Posted by: Aaron on Aug 6, 2007 at 11:08 PM
I am the middle child of Marlo's and I of the three of us knew him the most and have memories of him, he was a great father, we may not have had a lot of time to spend with eachother due to my football, school and his work schedules. He always made me laugh and smile, even on my worst days, everytime we got off the phone or He or I went to bed, we made sure to say, "I Love You," to eachother. My father cared for all of his family, starting with Jacob. I believed he loved my little brother more than anything. Yes, he did love Angel, my brother Adam, and myself. To my uncles, cousins, grandmother and grandfather, he did to love you. He did like his job but he didn't like some of the people who he worked with. I know this because he told me this. Sure, my father's death isn't any different than other people who commit suicide, but the reasons that I believed he did it does make it different. It began when the SP transfered him to Clay Co., for a while things were going smooth.
Posted by: 13yrtroop on Aug 6, 2007 at 10:17 PM
I love my job. I love going on calls and solving crimes. Writing tickets is boring to me but some enjoy it. I have a car and get paid rather well for what I do. Other than working till I am 55(Cant see me catching a 20 yr old at 55 ha)it's a great job. This is my 4th Superintendant and he is the worst I have experienced. But politics will someday bring in a new Colonal. Hopefully one that is qualified to lead, not one who got his job because his wife got it for him. I am sure the Colonal was a fine Trooper. But he micro manages such that all under him cannot express their opinions and ideas for fear of being replaced. Self preservation. A Captain is an appointed rank. If the Captain has several years left before retirement, he or she will not want to jeopordize their position and return to whatever rank they previously held and sent to wherever that rank will be needed. The Colonal is not a bad man, he just has a bad leadership style which many find oppressive. Oh, and I too pay taxes.
Posted by: Troop 400 should have been 400 = (Pluss) on Aug 6, 2007 at 10:00 PM
To reaffirm, Troop 400 is actually Troop 400 (Pluss). I will continue by saying there is a serious problem within the ranks of the troops. There is a serious problem in having to write so many citations. Insurance companies are the winners here when they can legally, and litterally, fine their own customers just as we have, only much more severely. That is why people don't like getting a ticket, its the surcharge, that terribly large fine, by their insurance carrier. That is the horrible effects of speeding citations, not the $200.00 to $300.00 up front fine. Its the back end fine by their own insurance company.
Posted by: Troop on Aug 6, 2007 at 09:16 PM
Hey anonymous, you must not have a real job as much as you post on here. Or maybe you are at work and not doing your job. You are pathetic! So is Kim and Shelia. Talk about cry babies!! You pinheads need to get a life and stop putting your noses in everyone elses! Everyone knows that the majority of law enforcement is honest and does their jobs, if they don't, then they are complete idiots and have an ax to grind. Well your comments just don't cut it now do they? Pure hatred and stupidity is taking over your simple lives. Do you think more than a handfull of other losers on here take what you post seriously? Don't fool yourselves, you are not that important. Marlo was important, not you. You people disgust me and the rest of us hard working men and women. LIVE WITH THAT!! One day the man's gonna come around and you will be judged!
Posted by: To Just Plain Wrong & Sick of It on Aug 6, 2007 at 08:55 PM
First of all, if sensationalistic media coverage is for undereducated people then that must be why O'Brien and Powers are on the news all the time? Unless you are O'Brien or Powers and you're jealous because you want to be on Nancy Grace? And it wasn't a threat... We're just sick of the WVSP using the media to send the message but refusing to listen when the public sends one back. As for fueling a fire, to borrow the words of Billy Joel "We didn't start the fire, we didn't light but we tried to fight it!" Sometimes the only way to get rid of the stench of trash is to start a fire. Second of all, I've been working since I was 15, and pay my taxes! how about you? or are you one the WVSP troopers that makes their money off the tax books getting a cut for letting meth labs run? What makes you think you can judge people that you've never seen, never met, know absolutely nothing about? Are you psychic or just another WVST that thinks they can do or say anything they want w/o remorse or fear?
Posted by: Darrell on Aug 6, 2007 at 08:47 PM
Governor, Bring Retired Captain Mark Smith, (current Putnam County Sheriff) back in the department and make him the Colonel.
Posted by: NOT ABOUT TO SAY on Aug 6, 2007 at 04:16 PM
Sheila,I read one of your posts on here about THE STRONG HAND OF THE LAW WILL GET YOU,well if i'm not mistaking was that you I saw the Troopers had pulled over today?Guess you were right.
Posted by: Ronnie on Aug 6, 2007 at 03:40 PM
WVSP Job duties-How about 85mph down Rt. 2 north of parkersburg w/ lights on with a "very compliant" & NAKED female in the back seat with your Trooper partner, trade seats and go back up rt 2 the same way. Naked teens photographed with alcohol stretched across the hood of a cruiser at the state fair? Naked girl..wait.. she was wearing a duty belt on the Sgts. desk for his birthday. U get a 20 and out retirement package..plus you get a nice appointed position from the governor were you can draw that nice fat retirement and get paid for a "regular" state job plus be in charge of something that u have no previous experience in..sign me up..greatest job ever. I think the incident that landed one of the boys in the big house paints the picture. WVSP drunk in the street..call 911..drunken troops run off the local PD then kick in the door of the complaining citizen, beat him..drive down to the 911 Office and demand the recording? Geez? I need more space!
Posted by: Shelia on Aug 6, 2007 at 03:07 PM
OMG! I am a criminal now .The Trooper that just pulled me over(just as I told you they would)was as nice as he could be BUT the trooper that doesn't like me very well, or my family just happened to be in the same cruiser.I have a crack in my windshield and "bald Tires"! NO PROBLEM THAT CAN'T BE FIXED.Then whats in store for me?
Posted by: D Williams on Aug 6, 2007 at 02:01 PM
Can anyone else see this is a cover up....... they are NOT looking at Gonzos Sucide they are looking at all police sucides....what a joke. Governor Joe Manchin requested that Jim Spears, Secretary of Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety, create this team. It's going to be studying trooper suicides, and is looking to see what other similar states are doing.
Posted by: Nick on Aug 6, 2007 at 01:55 PM
Thank you "Citizen". We all need to remember that fact. Now that the Governer has a team together all of the troopers and citizens with complaints should stop hiding and come out of the closet, get their gripes on record. I happen to work for an entity higher than the State of WV. and have sat on several Board of Investigations and there is such a thing as whistleblower protection. No one will ever know why this troop took his life but I can guarentee and would bet my first born that it was not entirely due to the WVSP. I feel safe in saying that the whole reason for this blog was that an investigation would arise and maybe something good could transpire. By the comments I have been reading for the past couple of hours it seems there is alot of personal attacks. Sad!!! Let's stay on top of this and if a cover-up is what we expect then let's prepare. But there is a lot of attention on this matter not just by the state but by the Federal Government. This I know for sure!
Posted by: snoopy on Aug 6, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Did you see who was partying together at Lyn Ransons wedding? A spa party was given by Ruth Lemmon and Gayle Manchin! Do you think Col. Lemmon is going any place? Let's get the right people in for the investigations!!!
Posted by: Kim on Aug 6, 2007 at 10:19 AM
To WSAZ. You might want to fairly categorize this board since anyone can read it and see there is more to the comments than lining up behind the WVST malcontents. Seems all the complainers and whiners at WVST are exploiting Gonzalez's death to take punches at Col Lemmon. From the sound of this board, it seems the WVST has lost its edge and become a group of victims and hand wringers. And no one has bother to explain the nexus between WVST management and Gonzalez's death. Only the media and the malcontents are making that assumption.
Posted by: John on Aug 6, 2007 at 10:17 AM
I know that nobody probably reads these comments anymore, but I will say it anyway. After watching those two unedited versions of the interviews with the ex-troopers it is apparent that there is a problem with the state police. I think the Capt. Barnett and the Sgt. Cox guy are the bad seeds who need to go right along with the Colonel. IF they are threatening violence towards troopers for not writing tickets then they need to go. People who get into high positions think that they can do what they want to others and get by with it, because they were picked on themselves when they were younger so they think now it is time for revenge against society. That is not how it is done. I experienced the same stuff in the military. The Smith guy in the interview is lying through his teeth. Nobody, I dont care if you are heartless like Barnett would tell someone to leave their wife in the hospital and go to flood duty. He looks quite fat and not even trooper material.
Posted by: To Just Plain Wrong & Sick of It- on Aug 6, 2007 at 09:33 AM
Clearly neither of you have actually ever had to WORK for a living as I strongly suspect that you have been living off the public trough all of your lives. It just warms my heart to know that my tax dollars are going to support individuals of such high moral caliber – NOT! Col. Lemmon didn’t have a civilian appreciation day? Really? You people have civilian appreciation day each time you receive a “pay check” that I, along with the rest of the citizens in WV who go to work every day in the private sector and do not have “appreciation days”, provided to you via our tax dollars. As for the “threat” of Nancy Grace “investigating” the WVSP, whatever! Sensationalistic journalism has never proven to aid in anything other than fueling the fires of the uneducated. Col Lemmon if the folks that are on here complaining are employed by your department, PLEASE do us (the tax payers of WV) a favor, get rid of these loosers. Gov. Manchin you should follow the lead of the man that you appointed!
Posted by: Kim on Aug 6, 2007 at 09:22 AM
This is a really badly run board. It takes several hours for posts to be added and why WSAZ chooses to post some and not others has no ryme or reason. If you people at WSAZ are going to set up a board why don't you do it right. This is very amateurishly done.
Posted by: TO:employee:wayne co sheriff dept on Aug 6, 2007 at 09:21 AM
HEY EMPLOYEE, if you have worked there for 13 years than why have you not went anywhere else? Fail the WVSP academy? Why aren't you moving up, wearing green??? Here's a thought: Go to work for the WV Regional Jail Authority, then you will wish you were back with Sheriff Pennington and Wayne County. If you've been there for 13 years on that salary it couldn't be all that bad, you must just be mad and didn't get your way about something. I do KNOW there are problems with the WVSP and other STATE workers, but don't down a sheriff's dept(COUNTY)after continuing to work there 13 years, they could have gotten rid of you long ago. WAYNE COUNTY IS PRAYING FOR ALL WVSP AND THE FAMILY OF THE TROOPER GONZALES.
Posted by: WAYNE COUNTY on Aug 6, 2007 at 09:07 AM
RE:EMPLOYEE:WAYNE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPT. How dare you get on here and down that department or Sheriff Pennington. My bet you are NOT an employee, you are probably a criminal yourself. Sheriff Pennington is a good man that I know personally, he has helped many people, many of us that no one else would help. Your barking up the wrong tree, you know nothing about the man or the department and DO NOT bring the WVSP into this in Wayne either, they also do their jobs very well. How dare you put down this county, their sheriff, and "put a bullseye on WVSP in Wayne's back". Wayne County is a very well run county, better than most, they just don't put up with crap from people like you.
Posted by: Troop # 400 on Aug 6, 2007 at 09:04 AM
As long as I have been on the road, I have never seen the demand for writing tickets. Quotas are jacked up so high troops can hardly investigate crime. Crime is getting set aside for the demand for moving citations. A friend of mine just informed me that the Jail Authority gets $45.00 for every ticket issued to offset county's jail fee structure. Well, from what I read here, about both the WVSP and the WVRJA appointments, there could be some scheme here to bail the state and counties out of jail fee costs. The one thing that always bothers me in writing a speeding ticket is, that I'm giving that persons' insurance company an authorization to raise that person's premium from $1,500 to $2,200 in the next six months. Where is the fairness in that? Is the insurance commission also apart of some scheme here? It is difficult in citing people knowing what it is really costing them. When a person may just get caught up in a moment of time and let their speed get a little higher than normal.
Posted by: Bill W. To Former Officer on Aug 6, 2007 at 08:44 AM
FORMER OFFICER AND J.K., I agree with you about the Regional Jail Authority. Employees at the Central Office feel like they are in one of their jails. The proper people have been notified as to what major disaster is all about there. If those so notified don't take action, then the jails will be running themselves by the imates. Those who can make the major change there, please do not hesitate, time is running out to save the ship. She is sinking it. That is the Ex.Dir. there. She has it in a whale of a mess. Board members, MAPS, news media, please don't let this travisty continue. There are people that can run this Agency without the problems that now exist. Make the major change at the very top. Don't let these hard working people there suffer any longer. The medical leave (sicknesses) are higher than ever before experienced there. Many are retiring earlier than they had ever planned. They see retirement as the only excape way while they can still live.
Posted by: Citizen on Aug 6, 2007 at 01:48 AM
I wish people would be a little more mindful, and not lump all law enforcement into the same box. Not all State Troopers can be as bad as people are reporting. Of course there are a few bad apples, but that doesn't mean the entire barrel is spoiled. Let's remember to give the good Troopers the respect and dignity they deserve, by not using the term WVSP as a general term to describe the less than desirable few.
Posted by: 26101 on Aug 5, 2007 at 11:58 PM
There seems to be quite a few transfers and dismissing of officers that serve the WVSP. I know of the incident in Jackson County WV where the trooper discharged his weapon and was also found giving minors alcohol. I was wondering if anyone knew what happened with his supervisor(Trooper Hesson) that quit the department abrutly. It seems that there has been several "bad seeds" transfered, while the good guys take a hit. In the Jackson County case I think that both men should have been fired, one for firing on an unarmed person and for the other trying to cover up the incident. My deepest sympathy goes out to Corporal Gonzales family at this time of mourning.
Posted by: employee: wayne co sheriff dept on Aug 5, 2007 at 11:45 PM
My prayers go to the family.The state police does have a problem with administration from what troopers have told me and yes it is sad. You cant say anything or you will have a bullseye on your back. It is the same way at the wayne county sheriff department. If you are not in the click you are nothing to them. I have been there 13 years myself and that means nothing to sheriff pennington. I wish some kind of investigation would take place here and break up this good ole boy click. We are in the same situation the wvsp are in everyone afraid to say something, but you no enough is enough.
Posted by: 4WVSPCHANGE on Aug 5, 2007 at 07:58 PM
TO RET. COL.'S DONAHOE, KIRK, EDGELL AND HILL I AM SORRY FOR THE WAY COL. LEMMON HAS DESTROYED WHAT YOU ALL WORKED SO HARD TO BUILD.LIKE INTEGRITY, RESPECT AND HONOR TO THE GREEN UNIFORM. TO OUR GOV. I THINK IT IS TIME YOU NAME THE RIGHT MAN TO LEAD THIS DEPT. BRING JOE TRUPO OUT OF RETIREMENT. AT LEAST ALL THE TROOPS RESPECT HIM. AFTER ALL IS HE NOT THE ONE YOU HAD INTENSIONS TO NAME AS THE COL. BACK IN 2004.
Posted by: Someone who still knows on Aug 5, 2007 at 05:56 PM
To Bill: I am no longer employed by the State Police. I did observe first hand the incompetence of Smith, and it was well before he took that beer bottle up side his head. He had no clue what it was to be a State Trooper, and the WVSP administration is to blame for hiring him in the first place. Too many Plan A retirements in the last 10-15 years have left them scrambling for warm bodies, and they lowered their standards. He's not the only one who needed to go. There were many others. I am no great friend of the Lemmons, but it seems to me that at some point someone needed to say, enough with some of the ones who were hired under previous administrations. Those who had not business wearing the green. Some independent group does need to take a look at the State Police culture and determine what needs to be changed. Particularly in the area of stress management. But it would be a monumental mistake for anyone with legitimate concerns to hitch their wagon of hopes to one Steven Smith.
Posted by: vacancy at 453 on Aug 5, 2007 at 10:44 AM
This started out with the best of intentions to help improve the WVSP it has now lost its focus and has now become a vent line for a lot of people who simply do not like law enforcement or troopers specifically. I think the comments posted by those that matter, the troopers themselves and their families, have made it clear a real problem exists within the WVSP and by making needed changes (administratively)will ultimately have a positive effect on both civilian and sworn members. This will only improve the committed service these men and women already provide to our state. WSAZ, do something more with the story or don't but at this point what more can be said.
Posted by: FORMER OFFICER on Aug 5, 2007 at 10:00 AM
HEY TEAM PUT TOGETHER.......Check out the WV REGIONAL JAIL AUTHORITY while u are at it, now there's you a mess!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 5, 2007 at 08:52 AM
Shame on you MGAM. It appears that you really did not know the relationship between Marlo and his real family. As for his youngest brother, I knew both Marlo and Joseph and I can say that you also are unaware of how close they were. Marlo loved his brothers and mother very much. As for the FBI, you must be a moron. That incident happened several years before met Angel, so why would Marlo even talk about it with her or her family. And if you did know anything about that situation, I'd be very careful about criticizing Joseph.
Posted by: Stand up for the public too!! on Aug 5, 2007 at 04:55 AM
It's sad what happened to this officer. But people think we the public are treated like that to. They have talked to me like I was stupid. And i have two brother-n-laws that are officers and a cousin that is a sheriff. And i don't care they are crooked as a limb on a tree. You can't trust the police anymore. They are so cocky walking around like they own you and look at you like your stupid. I'm sick of it. They are so busy pulled over on the side of roads talking on the cell phones that they can't even take a 911 call. And Cabell County 911 is even rude to you when you call them and they talk to you like your stupid. This system is awful. There's no reason to call the police when something happens because if you do they show up an hour later. Then they just say if something else happens call back. They don't care. I see them pulled over talking to young girls laughing and jokeing around with them instead of them doing there jobs. And quit speeding without your lights and sirens!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Troop on Aug 5, 2007 at 12:50 AM
Tonight I decided to read the additional comments left after the first week of Gonzo's death. I was surprised to read this has degenerated into an anti WVSP forum. To the few requesting Colonal Lemmon clean more out, me too, it brings more attention on him. To the person saying troopers should have been in the military beforehand, I would venture to guess about 65 to 70% were. As an Honorably Discharged Captain of the US Army, now Trooper, I can say I have never seen such bad leadership that caused a decay in moral than I have with this current administration. Moral affects any employee's performance no matter what the job. Lower moral equates to a higher turnover ratio. I also have moral. I am disgusted with what has happened within the State Police. Will I quit? No, I will wait for the Governor to ask this Colonal to gracefully step down and I will hope for an improvement to what we call Plan B retirement. I enjoy my job, I just feel the leadership is not what it can be
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Aug 4, 2007 at 11:56 PM
If it were just me I wouldn't hesitate to put my name on every comment I have wrote but I have children,grandchildren,wife,and other loved ones.There the ones who would suffer for the things I,ve said.Thats the way the Troopers here do things.There big tough men when it comes to dealing with women and youngsters and people in hand cuffs.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 10:05 PM
To lord help us please disregard the concentration camp comment I could only read the begening of your comment at that time.Very Very SORRY.
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Aug 4, 2007 at 09:58 PM
I would like to say that I agree with Lord help us you must be from Mason County.I also like the Civilian Review Board idea.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 09:44 PM
To Lord help us: What if you lived in iraq and saddom hussian was the law and authority or afghanistan with the taliban.Mabe you should get a job teaching in a concentration camp or should I say re-education camp.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 09:35 PM
WV Tax payer if you think you can do a better job then put your actions where your big fat mouth is and sign up. You wouldn't last one day at the academy.
Posted by: BILL on Aug 4, 2007 at 09:03 PM
TO SOMEONE WHO KNOWS I HAVE DELT WITH EX-TROOPER SMITH IN BELLE AND I CAN SAY I'M GLAD THAT HE IS HERE. HE HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT HELPFUL. HE WORKS WITHOUR KIDS AND TAKES CARE OF OUR ELDERLY, CAN YOU SAY THE SAME FOR THE PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA? I BET YOU ARE ONE OF THE ONE'S THAT HE TALKED ABOUT IN HIS INTERVIEW. DOES IT MAKE YOU NERVOUS THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY FINDING OUT WHAT YOU ARE REALLY LIKE? HOW ABOUT YOU PUT YOUR REAL NAME ON HEAR OR ARE YOU AFRAID OF WHAT ELSE THAT HE WILL TELL. I BET HE HAS ALOT MORE TO TELL. FROM WHAT I CAN TELL IN THIS INTERVIEW HE STILL CARES ABOUT THE TROOPERS AND WANTS TO SEE THEM TREATED RIGHT, CAN YOU SAY THE SAME, MAYBE YOU SHOULD FOCUS YOUR CRITICISMS ON THE YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT, OH THAT'S RIGHT YOU WOULD GOING AFTER YOURSELF. IT DOESN'T TAKE ONE LONG TO FIGURE OUT THAT YOUR ONE OF THE PROBLEM CAUSERS, YOUR TRYING TO CIRCLE THE WAGONS AND POINT FINGERS AT EVERYONE ELSE, BUT IT'S TOO LATE THE WHOLE STATE KNOWS, WE KNOW. TO EX-TROOPER SMITH THANK U
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 08:15 PM
Until the WV State Police has some form of a Civilian Review Board that has some ability to monitor performance of supervisors and officers, the agency will continue in turmoil.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 07:21 PM
I agree with wv tax payer Col.Lemmon needs to give the Mason County Detachment a good cleaning out and put some good honest hardworking respectable Troopers there like the ones we had 25 or 30 years ago.
Posted by: Lord Help Us on Aug 4, 2007 at 06:10 PM
I have been taught all of my long life to believe in the authority of the land. I taught my children and my grandchildren to respect them, until one bad one came into my life. We must do something about this problem, because it has happened to a lot of people. Good People!! The lies, the misuse of power, the cocky statements made to someone very close to our family has changed the way I feel about the police. I now know some of them are not to be trusted. When I have mentioned this trooper's name at work, several people came to me and said, "This, also, happened to me." I do not know their stories to be true, but I do know ours. I am afraid to speak out openly, but if I could, and our Govenor, who had my vote, refused to hear me, that would be the last vote he would every get from me. I, also, believe News Stations should HAVE to verify their stories, and not just from the state troopers. Do I need to point out why?
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 05:01 PM
When we humans make a mistake we usually end up in jail or worse prison. What happens to a state trooper when they get in trouble? Very seldom do you see them go to jail or end up in prison. Their problems are covered up and then they are transferred. World of difference! Do you know what a town pest and a train have in common - that is according to a state trooper? You would be suprised. Everytime I hear of someone being hit by a train while on the tracks I think of the comment made by one of the "good ole" state troopers and wonder just how close a trooper was to the accident. Use your imagination with this one!
Posted by: W V Tax Payer on Aug 4, 2007 at 04:52 PM
Did ex-Trooper Smith say he was hit with a beer bottle or that he was hitting the beer bottle.I couldn't beleave it when he said if you didn't follow there procedure(meaning WVSP procedure no doubt)you weren't part of it.And he admits he was shy on his tickets(I wonder for the how many'th time.And let him join the millitary and walk up to a Captain or Colonel and talk to them like they were just one of the guys and see what happens.
Posted by: MGAM on Aug 4, 2007 at 02:58 PM
JUST TO FINISH WHAT I WAS SAYING,IF YOU HAVE A CHILD WHO HAS DONE WRONG, DO YOU GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE BY SAYING " DON'T DO THAT AGAIN OR YOU WILL BE PUNISHED"??? YOU JUST DON'T KEEP PUNISHING THEM DAY AFTER DAY FOR THE ONE THING THAT THEY DID WRONG. AS FOR THE ONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHO DEADRA IS>>>> SHE IS A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF THE FAMILY THERE TO HELP IN ANY WAY SHE CAN, NOW AND BEFORE.I DO NOT KNOW YOU FAITH, BUT IF YOU READ IN THE BIBLE YOU WILL FIND THAT IT SAYS THAT OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH YOU HAVE CURSED YOURSELF. I PRAY YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT, I WOULD HATE FOR THIS KIND OF THING TO HAPPEN TO A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY. YOU ARE NOT A CLOSE FRIEND OR YOU WOULD KNOW THE TRUTH. MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND YOURS.
Posted by: mgam on Aug 4, 2007 at 02:45 PM
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN ON HERE TO READ WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, AS FOR THE YOUNGEST BROTHER, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY. MARLO MADE IT VERY PLAIN HE WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, HE SAID YOU WERE A LIER CHEAT,AND WHEN THE FBI WERE LOOKING FOR YOU, HE TOLD THEM HE HAD NO IDEA WHERE YOU WERE, HE HAD ONLY SEEN YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.SO IF YOU WERE SO CLOSE TO HIM, WHY DID HE NOT KNOW WHERE YOU WERE? HE SAID IF HE HAD KNOWN HE WOULD HAVE TOLD THEM.AS FOR HIS FAMILY LIFE, HE CHOOSE A NEW ONE. THERE WAS A LOVE THERE THAT NONE OF YOU WILL EVER KNOW. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PERSON THAT SEEMS TO BE ALL FIRED UP ABOUT THE FUNDS BEING SET UP FOR THE FAMILY. THE 3 CHILDREN HAD A FUND SET UP THE DAY AFTER THE FUNERAL, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WIDOW AND THEIR 2 YEAR OLD SON, WHO BY THE WAY WAS MARLO'S PRIDE AND JOY.THEY WERE A HAPPY AND VERY CLOSE FAMILY TIL THE HIGHER UPS AT THE WVSP STARTED TO MESS WITH HIM.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 02:14 PM
No one wants the Troopers Jobs But the Public who pays the wages would like to see the Troopers and Family is treated fair. When a Trooper gets upset because the Col, Capt, Lt, and Sgt gets on them for something stupid like what has been going on then the Trooper can take it out on you not meaning to but they are human just like you and I. Think about it. If they was treated fair they will treat you fair so the people of WV needs to stand up for your Troopers and I sure they will treat you fair and within the limits of the Laws of the State of WV and the Federal Laws.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 01:52 PM
It's aboult time someone cleaned up the W.V.State Police.But there still are a few more Col.Lemmon needs to transfer to South Charleston and weed out.One of the two ex-Troopers WSAZ interveiwed has a brother who is a Trooper and he is grossly incompetent.
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Aug 4, 2007 at 01:39 PM
To enough:I don't agree and don't have a criminal record or any family who does.I you few incompetent Trooper out don't like it to bad.The truth hurts don't it.
Posted by: Someone who knows on Aug 4, 2007 at 01:19 PM
There could not have been a worse person to talk about the WVSP than EX-trooper Smith. He was incompetent, and should have never been allowed to wear the green uniform. His coming forward will do nothing more than to hurt the case of those who truly do have legitimate gripes with the State Police. Anyone posting here or elsewhere who embraces him in any meaningful way is being dishonest about the situation. He was not well suited to be a State Trooper, and was rightly turned out. I feel sorry for the good citizens of Belle.
Posted by: Request to WSAZ on Aug 4, 2007 at 01:01 PM
Please post the petition link at the top of this website regarding Trooper Gonzales where it is easily accessible to anyone wishing to sign it. Perhaps that is why more people have not. Thank you.
Posted by: ENOUGH on Aug 4, 2007 at 12:08 PM
WSAZ, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. SHOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME MORAL CHARACTER AND SHUT THIS DOWN. ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THE LIFE UNDERSTAND. NO CHANGE IS GOING TO COME FROM IT. PLEASE STOP USING THE SUFFERING OF OTHERS TO PROMOTE YOUR STATION AND WEB SITE. THE GOVERNOR WILL NOT ACT, THE ADMINISTRATION WILL SURVIVE, AND ALL YOU WILL HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IS RUNNING GOOD PEOPLE AND A PROUD, DISTINGUISHED ORGANIZATION IN THE GROUND. THE STATE POLICE IS NOT PERFECT AND WE HAVE OUR ISSUES. EDUCATED PROFESSIONALS IN POSSESSIONS OF TRUST (OTHER THAN POLICE) KILL AND RAPE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY EVERYDAY. EVERY GROUP HAS PEOPLE WHO MAKE BAD DECISIONS. GONZO WOULD NOT WANT ANY OF THIS. IF YOU ARE GOING TO LEAVE IT UP, THEN AT LEAST TAKE HIS PICTURE AND VIDEO OFF SO THAT HE IS NOT DISRESPETED ANYMORE BY THE IGNORANT PEOPLE WHO DID NOT KNOW HIM AND PROBALBY BELONG IN JAIL. PLEASE SHUT IT DOWN. DOES ANYONE ELSE, WITHOUT A CRIMINAL RECORD OR CONVICTED FAMILY MEMBER, AGREE?
Posted by: Donna on Aug 4, 2007 at 11:39 AM
I am so thankful that someone has been listening and the "team" has been formed, it's a step in the right direction. My prayers go out to these 4 men that He guide them in this investigation. I believe Trooper Gonzales is smiling down from heaven this morning. I personally was beginning to wonder if anyone was hearing what was being said here. To those of us who kept the faith and the true reason behind this blog in sight, it was well worth our efforts. The same for those who have legitimate complaints against the WVSP. However, some of your complaints have turned into personal bashings against one another...you could have gotten your points across tactfully and with more respect for Marlo and his family. To Trooper Gonzales' family...God continue to be with you and watch over you. Angel, I was at Marlo's service and my heart truly broke for you, from one wife and mother to another. Adam, Aaron and Jacob: Keep the memories of your Dad in your heart, he is with God and at peace.
Posted by: HS on Aug 4, 2007 at 10:24 AM
Law Enforcement is one of the most noble and least understood professions. State or local. These men and women give 200% of themselves everyday. It's a shame all anyone wants to do is criticize. I think it's sad when I travel through 4 other states and I see their cruisers and equipment and it's brand new compared to ours...why do some of our cruisers have the mileage they have? It's ridiculous! Our troops relie on that equipment to protect us...so why is it the mechanics cuss when they need to repair something? Why do they have to drive and use 2nd rate hand me downs to begin with? Anyway, my heart goes out to the Gonzales family, it is going to be a tough road ahead. My thoughts are with all the troopers and locals families..I hope God gives them the strength to support their officer in all aspects of their lives, duty or home. They are truly special people and very much appreciated. It takes a special person to be what they are and they're aren't many who can do what they do.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 10:11 AM
I know a solution to this mess. All state troopers should pick-up their toys and go running to Mommy and tell her that you are being picked on! Moms know how to handle terrible people!
Posted by: RR on Aug 4, 2007 at 09:10 AM
For the record, the post by "Regina" is not Regina Reynolds. I stand with my big brothers/sisters in green. They have taken very good care of me and have been there every time I needed them, personally and professionally. I support them 110 percent.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2007 at 12:33 AM
In response to OMG!!!!!!!!!!! - If you don't like the comments on this blog THEN don't read them, don't be so stupid.
Posted by: WV Worker on Aug 3, 2007 at 11:25 PM
With all these comments going in, and pretty detailed about buildings in South Charleston,names, and numerous other things! Including WVST officers names and rank don't you think this says something about this being the TRUTH!!!Who would know their rank and names, except people working for them! I think it is a disgrace that something hasn't been done at this point with the Col. and his appointed staff!! More respect for the Aministration if they do what's right and get rid of the Col. and his appointed staff! Makes a change! Give these guys a break, get the morale back in the WVSP!!
Posted by: To Hey Joh! on Aug 3, 2007 at 11:00 PM
I'm not an SP,only a poor working stiff. I own my own business and no I didn't know that about transfers. But I would have thought that moving somebody away from their trouble was better than firing them. You guys are sure screwy...just because someone disagrees with you, you think I'm brass? I wish I were. I'd be proud to be.
Posted by: to josh - back on track(ers) on Aug 3, 2007 at 10:28 PM
Do you think the Morgantown drunk would have not driven anyway because he would have obeyed the laws - your points doesn't wash. No, he would have drove off anyway, he would not have obeyed the law.. Just like our high powered attorney Mr. Wolfe in Charleston the fine upstanding citizen he is. Back on Track - From what I understand your facts are absolutely right and Gonzo did ask for time off it really doesn't matter if he had taken time off before, the fact is he was denied, and he asked... or am I wrong there too??
Posted by: Sick of it on Aug 3, 2007 at 10:23 PM
WSAZ will not post any comments that reveal their connections (sources). By the way Nancy Grace has ben petitioned many times to look over the WVSP on her show and God knows as controversial as she is, everyone will be watching. Strange isn't it, how people who are honest and faithful to the law can be falsely accused of something by someone wanting money or to settle some imagined offense and all of a sudden the falsely accused lose faith in the WVSP? Are the WVSP working hand in hand with the Trial lawyers? I think they just might be. After all it's not like they haven't ever made a mistake (FRED ZAIN, ANYONE?) Why else would "professional" troopers or LEOs act like 13 year old boys, taunting people who whether or not the accuscommitted a crime deserved to be treated with all solomness, lie out of their butts and manufacture evidence just to get face time? Is it okay to destroy people's lived for nothing but PR? And don't worry WSAZ if you don't post this one, Nancy Grace has a copy
Posted by: HEY JOSH! on Aug 3, 2007 at 09:50 PM
You do know that according to West Virginia State Code, disciplinary transfers are illegal. I thought someone wearing brass would have known that.
Posted by: Just Plain Wrong! on Aug 3, 2007 at 09:46 PM
How about Lemmon refusing to have civilian appreciation day for state police civilian employees when other state agencies had the appreciation day. Lemmon said he would not have it unless the governor forced him to. Again, civilians are necessary evils. The governor said he has not received any complaints on this administration, but you can't call the governor's office and speak to anyone, they won't listen. Several people have tried to get Manchin's ear to let him know of wrong doings, but he just won't listen, or just doesn't care. I guess he's more interested in furthering his political career when Byrd finally has to leave office, which should have been about 20 years ago. The governor apparently doesn't care about the future of West Virginia, just the future of his political career. PEOPLE MUST PAY ATTENTION TO THIS! The future of this state is at stake!
Posted by: Just Plain Wrong! on Aug 3, 2007 at 09:41 PM
You just have to admit that this has been the worst admistration for the State Police in years. We have a superintendent who spent around $1 million dollars to renovate the South Charleston Detachment, when several contractors told him it would be cheaper and more beneficial to tear it down and build new. The head of maintenance for the State Police said the same, but Lemmon told him he was going to renovate it, and if he didn't like it, he could find employment elsewhere. Didn't money that was supposed to be used in the eastern panhandle get used in that project? Or what about the renovation in Ripley? They spent thousands of dollars to renovate that office that was built on a septic tank instead of purchasing a new building that was more suited for their needs. Check with Senator Facemyer on that one. How about telling the Legislative staff of the State Police that the department's civilians didn't need any raises, they were just lucky to have jobs, they were necessary evils.
Posted by: Beth on Aug 3, 2007 at 08:56 PM
My heart always goes out to the State Police and their families. I would not want their job, but atleast someone is always there when you need them. My heart and prayers go out to Corporal Marlo Gonzales Family.
Posted by: OMG!!!`` on Aug 3, 2007 at 08:53 PM
I just saw the paper! A Parkersburg real estate agent killed his wife and then shot himself! I'll bet he was abused by the real estate company. All former and current agents come forward now to speak out about the abuses of the real estate companies. Gov. Manchin, we need a full scale investigation!
Posted by: To Back on Track on Aug 3, 2007 at 08:50 PM
I agree with most of your comments. But on one thing you were wrong. I know he had just had a vacation a couple weeks or so. So he did get the time he asked for. And as for help, why didn't he go for counseling? It would have been free and anonymous. And if his friends in the troopers knew he was in trouble, why didn't they get him help? And if his family knew why didn't they? Because nobody knew. He hid it well. Everybody is doing him a disservice by questioning and blaming the troops or the officers because the truth coming out might not be the best thing for his family. And his poor wife probably blames herself. Everybody just leave him alone to rest in peace. The troublemakers like Gilley are the ones we should look into. I agree about the others who want him to let the WSAZ see his file. His dad even posted. Hey dad, go with your boy and see that file. Then let us know. Yeah the officers might write the content but don't they have to support the facts?
Posted by: Josh on Aug 3, 2007 at 08:36 PM
The WVSP is no different than any other employer in the state as far as it being difficult to find qualified applicants. Add long hours, no respect from bashers like you, and the job gets tougher. Even the admin guys have to take orders from Lemmon. So if a few bad troopers are weeded out by disciplinary transfers or firings, way to go! One trooper's mom who posted about her son not being allowed to go the hospital with his wife because of a DMV hearing. Was it a DMV DUI hearing? If there had been an accident like the one outside Morgantown where 5 innocent people lost their lives due to a drunk driver who was still licensed and the driver was still licensed because your son didn't show up for a hearing, you might understand. Those hearings are important. Many soldiers are in Iraq and can't be with their moms, dads, wives, children, on important days. Where is your sympathy for them? I agree with others about Gilley. Petition to open Gilley's files anyone?
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 3, 2007 at 07:27 PM
If Troopers have to report wrong doings inside the department to the Professional Standards Unit I feel sorry for you.I know a Captain who works there he was sacked from the Mason County Sheriffs Dept.Then he done terrorable things for the New Haven WV Police department when he worked there.he's a social climber who will step on anyone and everyone to get what he wants and he cares aboult no one but himself.So if you have to deal with him you don't have a chance.
Posted by: Carl. N. East on Aug 3, 2007 at 06:36 PM
I think it is time for a recall, if forums are not established to deal with these alegations and issues. No longer should these matters be expected to just die away. A recall vote would create a NO-NEED-TO-RUN election process for the current administration. Give them a reason not to even be interested in running for a re-election. Or even beginning a campaign for that matter.... Give them no reason to do so.
Posted by: The Green Flu on Aug 3, 2007 at 06:19 PM
We can't speak out due to retaliation, but the Green Flu could speak volumes!!!
Posted by: back on track on Aug 3, 2007 at 05:24 PM
It appears that this blog has turned into trooper bashing because of the article involving a drunk and armed attorney who was arrested and believed he was above the law, was verbally abusive and (nasty) to a female trooper, and then felt he could strike at a trooper??? And not expect to be struck back! It appears from reading from the beginning of this blog the original thought here has been lost which was the pressures police officers face which ultimately affects their mental well being. Police officers learn to expect to be badgered by the 5% of the public that live off the system and criminal activity - allot like the 5% of these posts lately badgering troopers now. Gonzo was a good trooper with 13 years of service, a state employee, he did not ask or deserve to be treated like that by his own command. He reached out for time (leave) to heal and was denied that opportunity. Troopers have no union to support them like Coal Miners or Teachers do as the WVTA has now shown it is worthless, where is the CWA support, no where... Thankfully 95% of the public will be there for Troopers and you can count on the fact that Troopers will be there for you. Oh yea, you 5% can count on troopers too…
Posted by: Wayne on Aug 3, 2007 at 04:26 PM
I have been a resident of this state for 61 years. I can only praise the State Police. I can recall many times when a Trooper has gone upove his expectations to help. My wif and I got a Flat tire on the WV TurnPike coming home in Dec. It was 20 degrees and snowing. A Trooper Stopped to assist us. He changed our tire, and gave our grandson a Teddy Bear. It was cold, and he could have just driven on by but he chose to help. I remember the Flood in 01. My older sister was stranded without water. She was unable to cross the creek in front of her home. Due to high, swift and dangerous water. A Trooper Climbed across an extended latter, that was being held by a farm tractor. He risked his life climbing across the unsteady latter just to bring my sister a case of water to drink. If he would have fallen off the latter he would have dies for sure. Lets thank god for the heros we do have and not put them down. I have hear countless stories of hero police officers. THANKS WVSP!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 3, 2007 at 04:24 PM
Hey Smith - Quincy was one place where I know for a fact that a young man was beaten nearly to death and ended up in the hospital. No wonder they transferred you. You should have been and everyone else working at Quincy at the time of this beating should have been transferred better yet FIRED!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 3, 2007 at 02:31 PM
I think it's time to shut this blog down. Nothing good is coming from this. Whatever problems there may be it is clearly not getting the attention of anyone who can help.This is just giving those who have an ax to grind a soap box to scream their problems to.We should not even bother trying to explain our job or problems. Do you really think this particular group of people cares. For the citizens who wrote in support we thank you.
Posted by: From the North on Aug 3, 2007 at 01:00 PM
To The South. You people down there feel the same way most do here in the North and N.East. Wonder what's happened, is the middle of the state really where everything really is? You know, I don't even think mid-state pepole like what they have. How about it Clarksburg, Bridgeport, Sutton, Buchannon, Elkins, Flatwoods, Summersville and others? You get what you needed or promissed? You probably got it, like everyone else. Now people, not in March and April of next year. That's too late. Now is the time to pick a governoral candidate, and stay with them. You certainly don't need anyone there now, in the existing F.O.L.D., and don't let the new governor keep any of them on board. Some have floated for years. Time to sink them....like they have us. Keep some and get the same treatment for four to eight years. From the top!!!
Posted by: Joe on Aug 3, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Still praying for the Gonzales family. To the children of Marlo, don't forget how much he loved all of you. Turn a blind eye to all of the problems listed on this site and continue to focus on allowing the Lord to heal your broken hearts. May Our Lord and Savior raise Marlo up!
Posted by: Dennis on Aug 3, 2007 at 11:35 AM
I own a business in Mason and I've lost a lot of business from people in Megis and Galla Countys.Because they are afraid to drive over here even old ladys.When you got State Police like this the town Police start acting the same way kind of a monkey see monkey do type thing.
Posted by: E.B. on Aug 3, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Where do we sign that waiver? Who do we call? Put up an address and phone number! PLEASE! We have a whole line of people here who are more than willing to forgo WVSP "protection". And does this mean that the WVSP would actually HONOR the waiver? Will you now leave us the heck alone???? No more stalking, no more harassing, no more threats, no more intimidation,no more pull-overs, no more lies, no more surveillance........... Calhoun only has about 7300 citizens. We have around 5 or 6 deputies and a sheriff. That's PLENTY, don't you think? The "crime rate" here is just not that high, and would most certainly drop minus State Police. The police in Calhoun, as a whole, have a much, much higher (thru the roof)crime rate within ranks than the citizens do. Read your news.
Posted by: Shelia to "if the shoe fits" on Aug 3, 2007 at 10:47 AM
If making me sound like a worthless female then so be it.The TRUTH hurts doesn't it ?I am being DEGRADED by you but YOU know nothing about what went on.I don't want the pitty from any of the readers on here.Clean your closet out before you talk about me and mine!If the lady posting these sick comments about me,happens to be who I think you are-----HELLO! I know something about you that I wouldn't told if I were YOU! I have a phone and I am very sure you know my # or have access to it,so instead of slandering me on here and not giving a name *******Duh! call me. WAKE UP ALICE UR NOT IN WONDERLAND!
Posted by: John K on Aug 3, 2007 at 10:42 AM
People of this great state, state employees are going to work, every day, wondering if they will get through the day witout a heart attack, nervous breakdown, ulcer attack or other horrifying ailments, as well as their jobs. Where is the honesty in... "Everyone has The Right To Go To Work Without Being Humiliated, Embarrest, Talk Down To, Threateneed With Their Jobs, as well as being Retaliated Against", and their jobs on the line. Not right now. Not with the latest appointments to stratigic positions in major agencies. What happened to the meet and great process? Where employees was to have an opportuntiy to speak out. How many employees were exempted from that privilage? Could they really speak openly? Not at all. How can that ever be a reality? Speaking Freely!!! Not until January 2009. If then??? Only the next election will tell. It won't happen until then. It just can't change, it is set until destroyed. Some key staff people are bailing out now. Before the topple down effect.
Posted by: Common Sense on Aug 3, 2007 at 10:34 AM
To WV Taxpayer, I assure you any resemblence in the WV State Police to the military is accidental. It would do them some good to have more military in the organization then they could promote actual leadership in the organization; presently all they have is administration. If you don't know the difference then you don't know what you're talking about. It is also unfair to compare the two considering that one requires actual leadership training for promotion and the other promotes who they want.
Posted by: Rick on Aug 3, 2007 at 10:27 AM
I've been in law enforcement for 13 years my self, and know first hand the torment of trying to do our job. We are continually placed under the micro scope on our job preformance, and even when we do it right, we are found at fault. God forbid if we make a mistake, and we are over looked when we do it right. It's a "NO WIN" situation. We are on the same team, and untill we pull togeather and fight as one, I mean State, County, and Local departments, there will be no change, and things will only become worse.
Posted by: Jack B. on Aug 3, 2007 at 10:25 AM
How many other state agencies will be stripped apart and thrown to the wolves? How long does it take to see destruction? How many more state employees have to go to work under duress, pressure, harassment, humiliation in front of their fellow employees, embarassment, degrading remarks, insulted, etc. I'm not just talking about the Regional Jail Authority here. Now that's bad enough in itself. But like the WVSP, there has to be more state employees going to work under the same, horrible circumstances. The Jail Authority is certainly colasping. The're time is short, as we know them today. The WVSP is hurting badly. Many of them are going to the coal mines. Gov. Joe is in another world if he really believes, but he can't, that most state employees are going to work without fear of facing the day with their newly appointed dicectors. Now that would be really amazing if that were true. But all know that is not. Lawsuits pending. Only pending to see if things change very soon. Take it back.
Posted by: Biil W. on Aug 3, 2007 at 10:11 AM
Now, lets take BrickStreet for another example. The legislature bought it, hook-line & sinker. There was not much choice, it was really broke and borken. The legislature, lilkey, just didn't know the real plans behind the scenes. Some issues have drifted out, but now set aside. BrickStreet has the State and County Agencies captive for the next 4/12 years or so. Until July 2012 say. BrickStreeis likely No. 11-12, in the nation, in what they do. Now in 2010, 2011 or sonner, will No. 4 or 5 in the Nation be bying them out? Did the legislature establish any restrictions there? Who will reall profit should BrickStreet be bought out? Has the right people checked into the bloodline of that monster? We'll see!!! Voters, Citizens, State and Private employees, take Your State back!!! Organize and stick together
Posted by: anonymous on Aug 3, 2007 at 09:52 AM
To Fed up State Troopers wife. Wow sounds as though you have been trained well. With comments like good for nothing low lifes and know it all females??? What is up with that!!! Bet I know who your husband is. I feel for you.
Posted by: Housecleaning on Aug 3, 2007 at 09:42 AM
To everyone asking Gilley and Smith to open their 'files'. Who do you think wrote the files? The same people who are railroading our troopers. Also, did you know that many troopers aren't permitted to view their own files? Hmmmmm.... wonder why?
Posted by: So. WV on Aug 3, 2007 at 09:30 AM
Now is the time for Joe to establish an independant forum to call witnesses to the table and stand up and be the "Man" he really believes he is. Not a cosin, not anyone now connected to the administration, or connected to any one of them. Is there anyone like that out there? Probaly, that people of this state will just have to tell the Gov. who they are. Voters, you are now in control again. A first time democrat governor can lose for his second term. If they blow the first one, why give them the opportunity to smother you to death the second time? No reason at all!!! Don't give them the opportunity. Let them get elected where they are most popular, outside of this State. We "now" have the best opportunity to turn this State into No.1's, not 47, 48, 49, and 50th. Where have we gained any ground in the last three years? We truly have lost ground, in more ways than being 49th or 50th place in the Nation. Call someone you can trust, not in the current administration. The're not there!
Posted by: Another So. WV Democrat on Aug 3, 2007 at 09:08 AM
Ladies and gentlemen of this great State, take it back, it always did belong to You. State workers will tell You what a horrible shape Joe's adminmistraion has this State in. Please don't hang the State out there for another 4 yrs. Joe may have high ratings outside of the State, but those people don't live, vote, or work her. Not every Gov. can be across the street from CNN when a tragedy strikes their State, like the Sago Mine deaths. That is not a good way to become popular. Telling the people, in their State, the truth as to why your running for office is. Telling supporters you will do exactly what you say is. And back it up 110% immediately after being elected. People, there are some out there that can do this job. We just haven't put any of them in office yet. You pick the administration that You want Your Governor to surround himself with. He can't legally promise jobs, or hire people to the State payroll, until he is elected. That's also considered vote buying by Federal Law.
Posted by: So. WV Democrat on Aug 3, 2007 at 08:43 AM
Well,we now have,along with the West Virginia School Teachers and Boards,The State Police,The West Virginia Regional Jail Authority, how nany other Agencies or public employees have taken a beating? How many more dread going to work under the pressure? Plenty!!! State workers, private and public, now is the time to pick Your next Governor. Why not begin trying to encourage people You know would, not only make a good Governor, but will also tell You the truth and keep their word when the're telling You, how You can help them, run this State. John Perdue for example. There are several more out there that can do the job. Still, many believe that a democrat Gov. can't be beat out for his second term. Wrong!!! Now Earl Ray Tomblin it too yellow to run on his own and is waiting on a free(ride)appointment. Wants to run from the Governor's Office, not from the field. Hang on Sen. Bird. Ladies and Gentlemen, start Your camapign now. "It can be done". Take Your State back, it is Yours! Start now!
Posted by: Gonzales Fund on Aug 3, 2007 at 08:14 AM
I have created a college fund for the 3 Gonzeles children. Please visit the site if you would like to help out the family. www.pdhelp.us I will be adding additional content as time allows. Many thanks!
Posted by: messengershub on Aug 3, 2007 at 07:04 AM
we see the ones that has spoke out and we thank you but the one that never well this could be you !one day think of your wife and kid and think of another man takeing care of your wife and kids!!! you well be 6 feet under! it time to make a stand! yes you i am talking to YOU!
Posted by: OVERWHELMED on Aug 3, 2007 at 06:56 AM
LITTLE DAVE AND THE FOLD ARE GOING TO STONEWALL JACKSON RESORT FOR 2 DAYS OF TRAINING (18 ROOMS AND PER DIEM APPROX COST $4000.00). WHY IS IT THAT THE REST OF THE STATE POLICE USE THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT THE ACADEMY FOR THEIR TRAINING, AND THE BCI GANG GETS TO GO TO THE RESORT I THINK YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, THANKS DAD. LITTLE DAVE AND THE FOLD ARE ALWAYS TRAVELING SOMEWHERE AND THE OTHER TROOPERS AND CIVILIANS AREN'T ALLOWED TO TRAVEL EVEN WHEN IT IS COMPLETELY PAID FOR BY SOME OUTSIDE AGENCY.
Posted by: . on Aug 3, 2007 at 03:05 AM
I think that the WV troopers who are complaining are the ones who are getting into trouble and being disciplined. If it is that bad, find another job
Posted by: Response to "upsetwithtrooper" on Aug 3, 2007 at 02:06 AM
Sgt C.J. Ellyson no longer works for the WV State Police. You should contact Troop 4 Headquarters at South Charleston to see who is handling your case. Just a suggestion -- hope you get some results in your case.
Posted by: Brandon on Aug 3, 2007 at 12:00 AM
I recived a speeding ticket on 64 near south charlston by a major in the state police. When I went to pay for the ticket the woman in the kan. co courthouse told me he wrote his own mother in law a ticket that has to say something.
Posted by: anonymous on Aug 2, 2007 at 11:54 PM
would you all stop your whining and complaining, and get back to work.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 2, 2007 at 11:25 PM
Shela you and your sons should sue for slander I can tell you who the Trooper is who is writing nasty stuff aboult them.I can tell by the stupid childish way he talks.He is more than likly sitting at his desk at lakin writing this stuff when he should be working.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 2, 2007 at 11:13 PM
The two Ex-Trooprs that have talked to WSAZ need to open there files.Gilley sat right there and said he messed-up.Of course I'm sure we didn't here the whole story.Col.Lemmon needs to get rid of a few more.It pains me greatly that my hard earned tax dollars go to pay some of these State Troopers.
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Aug 2, 2007 at 11:02 PM
I'm sure there are a lot of good hard working honest Troopers out there.But here the State Police needs a good house cleaning or should I say enama.To you Troopers that are complaining you should have joined the military first to see if you liked it or could hack it first.Keep up the good work Col.Lemmon
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Aug 2, 2007 at 10:47 PM
You see what I mean the trooper calling everyone criminals.Thats the kind of childish Troopers we have in Mason County atleast I don't have to hide behind a badge and a uniform to be a man.I've had to work for a living my whole life why don't you shut-up and doo the same and stop complaning.The W.V.State Police needs a good house cleaning.And I agree Gilley open your file.
Posted by: Jewell on Aug 2, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Sounds like the WV. State Troopers need to turn in their uniforms and badges!! Sounds like a nightmare to me!! MAY GOD BE WITH YOU!! I think the pressure is so strong on our officers it's making it just as hard on the citizens!!
Posted by: FireFighter on Aug 2, 2007 at 10:07 PM
I think it is perty bad that we just lost this trooper and that he has not been put on the west virginia state police hall of honor he was kill in the line of duty as well as all the other on there have been his picture and name should be put on there. I do see how the WVSP work i have family that has wanted to be stationed back closer to home and the WVSP will not let him come back down here becasue they say he is to good of a trooper. That the trooper is a very good one but he should not be kept from coming back closer to where he is from just becasue he dose a good job and will not faver anyone not even family he says if u brake the law and you get cought ever if you are friend,family,wife he will do what he would do to any other.
Posted by: upsetwithtrooper on Aug 2, 2007 at 09:32 PM
A mother of 3 was taken from her home in Sissonville WV and murdered in Arkansas last year. WVSP Sgt. C. J. Ellyson was in charge of the investigation. But there was no investigation and no report. He took property from her home. Now he won't return the property or phone calls to the family. The family cannot get victim's compensation for the 3 children because of Ellysons failure to make a report. What if it was his wife or daughter that disappeared? This is yet another example of apathy in the WVSP administration. There is no doubt that some of the troopers coming forward have been met with the same lack of concern as it seems Cpl. Gonzales was met with. The WVSP has alot of good troopers but this current administration is operating as if its still the 1970s. Gov. Manchin needs to call for an independant investigation from the FBI or Dept. of Justice and clean house. After all, the current WVSP scandal reflects on his administration.
Posted by: Ex Troopers on Aug 2, 2007 at 08:31 PM
WSAZ could have one speak out every week for the next five years. I hope it would do some good. So many injustices have been done to these guys. The ones people are complaining about--beating up teenagers, etc. must be in the FOLD and power hungry. Please realize there are so many more good ones than bad. However, the good ones often get the ax. Some troopers are afraid the good ones might talk and be whistle blowers if they don't participate in their inappropriate 'activities'. They pressure the young boots to fit in and be like them in order to keep them under their thumbs. Troop 5 has lost some great ones in the last three years due to admin. then they spread rumors about said incidents so others think they got what they deserved.
Posted by: TO DEADRA on Aug 2, 2007 at 07:28 PM
Marlo had THREE sons....why would you? and who are YOU? to start a fund for "ANGEL AND JACOB" Marlo, I don't think would be "PLEASED"....to know that YOU have excluded his FIRST two SONS....I am not a family member or anyone that knew him well. But SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!! Hope that other people do not contribute to YOUR fund...Please people..if you want to give.....give to "ALL" the childen, not just "One". Concerned for ALL. Deadra, you must have something to gain. Get a life!!!
Posted by: CANNOT come forward on Aug 2, 2007 at 06:53 PM
COME ON EVERYONE! SIGN THE PETITION AT http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WVSP DONT LET MANCHIN AND HIS POLITICS RUIN OUR MEN IN GREEN. THEY DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS!!!
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Aug 2, 2007 at 05:27 PM
The W V State Police should be ran like the Mititary.And it looks like thats what Col.Lemmon is doing.The way it looks to me is that these "clicks"are the Troopers who follow procedure and protocol,follow orders and do what there told.And the non-click Troopers are the one who want to put on a green uniform,a gun and a badge and look and act like a big shot.They don,t want to be told what to do.They are the ones giving the W.V.State Police a bad name.Keep up the good work Col.Lemmon
Posted by: Candie on Aug 2, 2007 at 03:30 PM
I am SHELIA'S daughter, and just a little something here for the cowards who choose NOT to give a name.... This isn't about my little brothers OR what they have done! This is about the bullies who took an oath to "protect & serve"! Maybe it is YOU people who are doing the REAL crimes and you defend these idiots to keep on good terms? Big Ed took one of my brothers into custody - he and a fellow idiot felt the need to physically abuse him, and psychologically torment him by talking crap about his little son & daughter! WTF?? WHAT crime did he commit that called for such treatment?? Another brother was arrested for "stealing" his friend's jewelry...which she found exactly where she had left it....AFTER he served 30 days for it! Wow...what a criminal! For those who choose NOT to give their names....is it because this is the perfect oppotunity for YOU to mouth off about the petty crimes of others when you YOURSELVES are the real criminals...talking crap about my brothers
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 2, 2007 at 03:29 PM
If everyone would just be silent for a minute or two you can hear my heart cry for the West Virginia State Police and how they are being treated. Poor-poor things! I never knew a bunch of grown adults could cry as much as they are - or are they adults! hum -
Posted by: shelia to Someone?lol on Aug 2, 2007 at 03:18 PM
If people are afraid to give a name then why bother?I understand why if you are a vic.but not if you are the accused.
Posted by: Stacy on Aug 2, 2007 at 02:49 PM
I live in Cabell and I have the utmost respect for our Troopers and Deputies. Trooper Deveto saved my life years ago and I never thanked him. I want to thank him now. If you read this Trooper Deveto, thankyou. I feel sorry for the two Troopers who quit. I dont know what they did or did not do but they seem genuine in the interviews. It sounds like they have problem chiefs if they are physically threatened at the office by the bosses. Maybe the Governor should pull the lower Troopers in and ask what is going on. I hope someone else takes time to thank a policeman. Apparently they have to put up with more than bad guys.
Posted by: Tpr Wife on Aug 2, 2007 at 02:40 PM
Ah it seems this has become a chopping block for everyone at this time. Well let me tell you, I know many of the SP familes. They are all people dedicated to their jobs and families. All they want to do is make a better life for you and me and to go home at the end of the night. As some of these individuals tell their "stories", just ask yourself, What part of this story am I missing?
Posted by: To Kim on Aug 2, 2007 at 02:37 PM
How about going back and taking a class in third grade grammer and spelling before you post your idiotic thoughts on this subject...........
Posted by: Troopers Wife on Aug 2, 2007 at 02:28 PM
All of these people who get on this site who aren't police officers or who have no link into a police officer's life are really starting to tick me off. All these"taxpayers"need to keep their mouths shut! You have NO idea about what a police officer's life involves. Yes, they all chose their jobs, but they didn't choose to be in the kind of State Police that exists today. They chose to wear the green uniform with pride, they chose to protect the citizens like YOU who would be the first to expect them to be there if YOU needed them. They chose to be part of a brotherhood, an agency that stood behind one another and fought the fight together not against each other. I can't explain how angry it makes me for people to talk about things they know nothing about. These officers are fighting crime with people who come at them with knives, people who baracade themselves in their house and say they are going to shoot the first trooper they see. Do you have that kind of courage? I doubt it!
Posted by: JUSTICE on Aug 2, 2007 at 02:24 PM
HAROLD FETTY... YOU SHOULD TALK, DIRTY BUTT. I AM SURE THAT LAW BREAKERS AND DIRTBAGS ALIKE WOULD SIDE WITH... AFTER ALL DONT U ALL STICK TOGETHER.
Posted by: Kim on Aug 2, 2007 at 02:07 PM
To Beth. Great argument girl. I guess your message was so short because you were on your way to a Mensa meeting. Personally, I don't live the sort of life that has requires me to call 911, fortunately. But I suppose I would if the need arose. Making observations about the problems with violence within police organizations (nothing new by the way) does not deprive me of the right to expect police protection. That is what LEOs get paid for isn't it? Just because I would rely on their services does not mean I would condone injustice. Besides, I'm talking about bad apples here genius.
Posted by: former calhoun thank god! on Aug 2, 2007 at 01:57 PM
what gives wsaz afraid to post this? kim and lisa are obviously from calhoun co. based on their anti wvsp comments calhoun is home to all of the anti police blogs hur herald, lone meth cooker, crooked county etc. all these people do is sit at their computers and second guess police while everyone else actually has a job. lets look at all of their pasts, lets see one stole spam and then fled, then checked into mental hospital, one cooked meth, one stole farm equipment, ones a registered sex offender what creditentails. want to know why calhoun is so screwed up they re-elect spam man. no wonder calhoun is poorest in state these people are part of their own f.o.l.d friends of lazy dopers. get a job i work and dont have time for an internet site. you should also call the police and tell them your name and that you dont want police service since its so bad ill be waiting for your call its sites like your that cause stress for police officers apply for academy and change wvsp if its so bad!
Posted by: Haley on Aug 2, 2007 at 01:24 PM
I am not an SP employee, wife, mother, friend. Gilley, open your file! Are you afraid you'll be found out to be the liar you truly are? The rest of you quit whining. You can quit and go to work somewhere else. You knew when you went through the academy that this is a paramilitary organization, not a civillian job. You have good pay, good retirement and you have power and respect from most of the public. Those of you who are whining and complaining are obviously not the kind we would want in the SP anyway. I personally am glad we have such a fine force in WV. A few bad ones shouldn't spoil the whole basket.
Posted by: Carol on Aug 2, 2007 at 01:21 PM
Sounds like Col Lemmon needs look up the meaning of anonymous. To all the good WVSP out there....thank you for all you do.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 2, 2007 at 01:08 PM
Beware, someone who cannot spell, use proper grammer or write coherently is using my name to post.
Posted by: Trooper on Aug 2, 2007 at 01:06 PM
Looks like all the criminals are making their posts now. Only people with a score to settle because they were caught, speeding, commiting a crime, or something else. Get a life, we all know why you are making these posts and you don't matter. I agree with one post... all of you who don't need the WVSP sign a waiver so we don't have to show up and help you when you need someone. Hey, if you really don't need us, sign the waiver, save us some time so we can help people who really need the help! That would be great. Do it, do it now, send it to the Gov. and to Lemon. You shouldn't have to hesitate, what are you waiting for? DO US A FAVOR, along with the law abiding citizens of WV. Hey Fetty, stay in Ohio. Anonymous, you are still stupid. A fact is a fact, sorry. WVSPCROOKED, sour grapes after a divorce huh? I see you took your stab too. Did you not get enough of his retirement or something? And finally Shelia, your sons are criminals, get over it. It is called poor parenting!
Posted by: Kim on Aug 2, 2007 at 01:06 PM
I always know I've hit the squishy part of someone's pshyce when they start name calling. Name calling is what people do instead of actually making a point or having an informed opinion. The fact is, many in the WVST consider head breaking to be a job perk. Then they wonder why they are viewed as jack booted thugs. Now several disgruntled, malcontented ST are exploiting the Gonzales death to their own ends as a platform to go after their superiors. They are also doing a lot of damage to the image of the WVST. Troopers like "Truth" have no business in law enforcement. They give good LEO a bad name, they reinforce negative images, they hate anyone who does not hand them a buddy pass and they don't want accountability. The fact is, accountability for people like the Wolfe perp would benefit all of law enforcement. Instead, people like "Truth" expect to live above the law behind the thin blue line. If I were a ST I would want to purge the ranks of the WVST of bad apples like "Truth".
Posted by: Joe on Aug 2, 2007 at 12:02 PM
I'm curious, how many of you put on a bullet proof vest before you go to work, how many hug there wife and kids each day not knowing if you may never see them again. Ever answer a call on shots fired, a domestic, or a bar fight involving numerous subjects and your the only trooper out,what about having a 5 yr old child describing to you how she was molested, Until you walk in the shoes each and everyday don't sit on here and act like you can or could. The job is extremely stressful, some love you, others hate you, I can't speak for the troops in Putnam Co. but having worked several areas in this state you have hard working troopers trying to do a thankless job in hopes of providing some safety and security for you and your families. There is no doubt that we have troopers that put on the uniform and get the "godlike" syndrome, and trust me I understand we "chose" this profession, but 95% chose it in hopes of making in difference in peoples lives and making this a great state to live.
Posted by: Calhoun Underground on Aug 2, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Warning, "I see Idiot people" and "Knows Better" are the same person. They are a troll and not to be taken seriously. They are also known as "I see stupid people"... But anybody with a brain would know by reading their comments... Response to Calhoun Underground, All Calhoun Underground has printed about Doug Starcher came from things ALREADY IN THE NEWS. Anything printed about him is only a small part of the articles found there. If you think Calhoun Underground is only all about him, then you have not looked any farther. Perhaps he has been the most infamous trooper in Calhoun for many years... I only report facts and put up links to credible news sources. If his name comes up more often than others there is a reason. Too bad there is so much fear of the truth. I'm most likely done posting here. It's getting redundant. It's obvious who is for real and who is a troll. Those of us smart enough know there are many problems with the WVSP. Now it's time for something to be done.
Posted by: Will IDENTIFY LATER on Aug 2, 2007 at 10:24 AM
Gov.Manchin come clean tell the truth , I personally have called your office and talked to your aid Mr. Joe Martin about problems with the state police and ask for a meeting with you , I didn't get the meeting. Not only have I tried the Govenors Office , I contacted Delegate Brady Paxton twice and have got no help. Senate and Delegate members you are the governmental body of the state of WEST Virginia come out and get involved this is your problem also. Election Day is in thr near future. Don't let the WVSP and the citizens of West Virginia go unnoticed.
Posted by: Kim on Aug 2, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Secound ex trooper speaks out... what does Col Lemmon not understand the definition of anonymous? is not knowing who spoke it. Clearly states his name come on he is a Col. that is pretty said as he spoke on the phone to the news reported I am sure she only said what he said this is very sad. I say vote at your next electios because how can you run a so called team if you don't know the meaning of a every day words.... whom did he know to get where he is at???????
Posted by: gary c on Aug 2, 2007 at 10:13 AM
the tax payers will get the gov attion on election day 2008
Posted by: MAD on Aug 2, 2007 at 10:07 AM
To the trooper who came forward to wsaz last night, I tip my hat to you my man. The only proble, I seen was, If Cpt. Barnette told me what he told you about your wife (He didn't care if she was sick or if she died and threatened to come across desk after you) First thing I would have done was brought him across the desk then I would shoved the badge up his rump as far as i could have. that type of statement just shows us that they don't care about you or the others just the numbers. Hang in there bud.
Posted by: TRUTH on Aug 2, 2007 at 09:46 AM
Kim, Calhoundumberground, anonymous. Say what you want, you will remain wrong and out of touch. You people talk as if you are by every trooper's side when something happens that hits the news. You all seem to know if someone was handcuffed or not, if they were hit without provocation, etc... None of you were there, you don't know what happened, you don't know what the circumstances were. You idiots add to the story what you want for the outcome that benefits moronic rags like the calhoundumberground, and no, that rag does not post all of the facts!! Military attack, please! Just plain stupidity. So you can keep entertaining us with your tripe. Those with a brain know better. Yes there is a problem in the WVSP but it's not the troopers. I know what! All of you that don't like the WVSP sign a letter and send it in saying you don't want response from them no matter what type of crime is happening to you! Do that and you may save some credibility. Na, you still will be stupid!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 2, 2007 at 09:11 AM
"What Goes Around" - Oh, yea I forgot - I haven't had as much as a speeding ticket in my entire driving life which is nearly 40 years. You obvious have had no dealings with the SP. I will pray that you don't. Until you do and you see just what they are capable of doing don't put us down. I've been there and I know there are a lot out there that has had to deal with the "criminals within the ranks of the SP". I wouldn't want my worse enemy to have to come up before them. And whatever you do don't get them upset. They don't need a reason to come after you. If they want you they will get you and you will pay dearly. I "was" friends with several SP which I regret to this day that I had offered them food from my table and a soft chair to set in when they visited me and my husband. These were the very ones that turned on us. Don't trust them or you will end up just like me. I have learned alot about them from this only-one-time-go-around with them.
Posted by: A Voter on Aug 2, 2007 at 09:07 AM
We also contacted Gov. Manchin about the corruption in the WVSP over the past three years.
Posted by: To Anonymous & other complainers on Aug 2, 2007 at 09:00 AM
It seems to me that this blog is full of nothing but those who have been reprimanded by their superiors for NOT WORKING-NOT FOLLOWING ORDERS in addition to many other issues. Based upon what I, as a citizen who travels around the state on a regular basis, have witnessed; the state police are now being forced to work - be visible in the communities and get off of their hindends! I guess having a "boss" that expects you to work doesn't sit well with some so they either quit or are terminated. Well, good riddance! To the two former "Troopers" complaining to WSAZ - why don't you open your personnel files to the media and allow the public to see what you were REALLY about. If Col. Lemmon had anything to do with your leaving the WVSP then I say GOOD JOB COL. LEMMON!!! Those of us who depend upon the WVSP to keep us safe appreciate your efforts to rid your department of the lazy, non-working, tax burdens that have been on the payroll for too long. Keep up the good work!!!!!!
Posted by: Harold Fetty on Aug 2, 2007 at 08:41 AM
I live in Middleport Ohio but work in Mason WV.I'm glad to see Troopers get some of there own medican.They act like there better than every one else.What happened to serve and protect.With them it's terroize and harase.and it seems like they mainly pick on teenagers and women.A lot of people around here think these Troopers were geeks and were picked on in high school.And now there taking it out on every one else.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 2, 2007 at 08:40 AM
Hey "what goes around" - Who is stupid here - you or me? Sounds as if it's not me. I know what goes on within the ranks of the SP - do you. Do you place everyone in the classification of a dirt bag criminal? Shame on you. You do not know me and you do not know Kim. I do not know Kim and Kim does not know mw. But it sounds as if Kim and I both know the SP. I have never been on welfare - I have never smoked nor have I ever tasted beer or a more stronger drink. I don't know the difference between legal drug and an illegal drug. I have a good paying job - chances are I earn more than you do. I attended church every weekend up until the the the SP destroyed my life. At that time I figured that there could not be a God so why go to church. I figured that He moved and relocated amoung the WV State Police! Afterall they are the Gods and as one SP said when bragging about an illegal event that he was part of "I am the law and who is going to turn me in - you, ha". So stuff it- -
Posted by: Brandon on Aug 2, 2007 at 07:55 AM
Why cant everyone just let it be its like I read the same comments everyday and for everyone that stays anonymous quit being cowards and make a stand
Posted by: MARK on Aug 2, 2007 at 04:36 AM
Please use discretion while exercising your right to "free speech." with this matter. YOu don't believe you should drop two cents in one jar, merely, to remove 2 cents from another. However, this guy is no longer here and all the bad mouthing can't bring him back. Each person who works for the state police has a different attitude, work habit, including distinct characteristics. They are humans too. Look at what happened concerning the Woodall case, the WV state police were involved. Fred Zain, thus, tainted his evidence for some unknown reason to convince a jury to prosecute Glenn Woodall. After seven years of serving at Moundsville, Woodall was aquitted after DNA evidence proved he was infact innocent. This gave the State Police a bad name over one person who worked as a forensic expert. After the "cat" was let out of the bag, Zain, ran to another state, and a few of the other State Police officers relocated to other areas. "Just like nothing ever happened'!
Posted by: Read This Story on Aug 2, 2007 at 01:33 AM
Inspiration for all that fear retaliation http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/08/01/news/local/35-feuerstein_s.txt
Posted by: WVSPRCROOKED on Aug 2, 2007 at 12:49 AM
The first thing that the Governor needs to do is pull every Troopers personel file....OH, wait that is not public record because they are protected by some Privacy Act that the rest of us is not protected by. There are a lot of dirty cops, I know this first hand but I cannot write everything I know because they would not post my comment if I did. The whole freakin bunch needs to be investigated but if they do investigate any of this they will just come back to "find no wrong doings" that is a typical catch phrase that the WVSP like to use. Nothing will change because no body wants to get on the bad side of the department, I know, I watch my house every minute of the day because I did get on their bad side and it had nothing to do with me being a criminal. I have never been in trouble with the law, I only made the mistake of marrying one of them. I just THANK GOD every day that I finally escaped but that doesn't mean I don't continue to watch my back.
Posted by: Ruth to Agitated on Aug 2, 2007 at 12:33 AM
Give me a break..to say gonzo commited suicide soley because of the WVSP is bull crap....obviously you dont know his family and all the problems they were having. Very easy to blame it on work and said works stress and problems...but those of us who know the wife and other members of the family know better..
Posted by: Brad Patterson on Aug 2, 2007 at 12:23 AM
Well I definetly would be looking into a lawsuit from the state police. I can agree about them needing a change, Employee wise and commanders because some are not doing their jobs right. They should have to answer to the families why this happened. Our Governer wants us to let him know what will work but he's never around like the state police when something is offered to stop the violence. My heart goes out to the family in this tragic situation But he is with GOD and he won't get pushed around in heaven like you seem to get pushed by your fellow workers. I am VERY ASHAMED of our State government, they say they will do all kinds of things til their faced with it and then they hide. Kind of like trying to make a police report and no one ever is there. Let's see Mr. Manchin you have one of your friends go in undercover as a cop and see what they tell you. If you have this many complaints something wrong of course the other won't speak they would be jeopardizing their careers. MS
Posted by: Response to Calhoun Underground on Aug 2, 2007 at 12:03 AM
All that the "Calhoun Underground" does is put Trooper Doug Starcher down. He is and always has been a good man and a very good, well-rounded trooper. He only does his job and too bad it is in a little piddly town such as Grantsville, Calhoun County.
Posted by: someone To SHEILA on Aug 2, 2007 at 12:01 AM
Sheila, When your sons names are mentioned in Mason County EVERYONE knows who they are. They are ALWAYS up to something and it has been that way for years now. Maybe just once if you would let them lay it out in jail they would maybe straighten up. I dont know if they can they are almost beyond help. As for the troopers they know that your sons are usually in what ever they are investigating it has been that way forever. I think you need to give the public that dont know of your sons alittle back ground. How many times have each of them been arrested? Have you lost count?
Posted by: To anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 11:26 PM
HEY ANONYMOUS! Lets see your PSS file and im sure Gilley will let you see his. Mr. Supervisor from South Charleston! Quit being anonymous!
Posted by: Chuck on Aug 1, 2007 at 11:24 PM
I just watched the Gov. Joe video here part 2. Do you really think he cares? Did you see him dart off while the reporter was in the process of thanking him for talkin? He doesn't care anymore then the man in the moon. Oh yes he said nobody has to work in fear, that's not the way this govn't is run, I have an open door policy. But wait "open door policy?" then why call this number, that number? as he stated that is not open door. He might as well said call 1-800-who-cares. And Gov. Joe, do you really think that if they came forward nothing will be done? OMG, I voted for you and supported you, but never again. If you are really concerned then why don't you have a team not consisting of the WVSP conduct an investigation? why don't you direct somebody in your admin. contact those who left the WVSP and talk to them. Get off your rockers and go find out what the heck is going on before it is to late. I personally have talked to Troopers prior to this tragedy who had nothing but complaints.
Posted by: Eddie Smith on Aug 1, 2007 at 10:54 PM
I have not read the messages as of yet but from what I have learned is mostly correct. The State police Brass do not treat members well even us with physical and mental disabilities that they think can not happen with being a trooper.
Posted by: More Idiot People on Aug 1, 2007 at 10:53 PM
To: I see idiot people, I don't think Kim is an idiot person just speaking either what she was told or read in the news like all the rest of you here. My question is, If he reached for a gun then why did they wait until they got him to the office to beat him? Mybe because lack of witnessess. As far as welfare SSI, aren't most people in WV? Which is another sign of how messed up the Govn't is. I don't understand why the Gov. Joe hasn't checked into this after all he was at that wedding also. The point being is the State Police here have and always will beat people for no reason. And by the way I am not a welfare check waiting person nor am I a SSI person, I am a Pokice Officer and I have witnessed several cases where there has been acts like this but the victims would not do anything because they were threatened. And to help those who will respond to this, yes some tried and was told they would suffer. And for WVST if you read these postings Kim is not the only one who wrote that.
Posted by: Concerned on Aug 1, 2007 at 10:39 PM
I'm glad to see (former) Tpr. Bird speak out. If you guys think your only having problems in southern WV with the Administration. It's alive and well in the Eastern Panhandle. Tpr. Bird was good Trooper along with Harmon, Sheets, R. Smith, S. Smith. Guess what their all gone too... And many more are soon leaving...
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Aug 1, 2007 at 08:09 PM
I just looked at the petition and read the list of complants.I couldn't beleave it.The stuff your complaning aboult is a lot of the same stuff you do to the public.Handcuffing a kid and beating the snot out of him,braging aboult shooting people,lieing just to name a few.What procedure book did this come from the nazi digest.And talk aboult the good ol boy system you guys wrote the book.I see you all let buddies and family off for all kinds of stuff you just look the other. way.And to all you people that say well people shouldn't break the law I agree 100%.But no matter what law some one breaks it doesn't give the State Police the right to beat them there not the Judge and jury.I agree with Col.Lemmon take your complants to the unemployment office.
Posted by: beth on Aug 1, 2007 at 07:49 PM
to Kim- you are such an example of ignorance- you are probably one of the first to call 911-
Posted by: what goes around... on Aug 1, 2007 at 07:10 PM
Kim and anonymous are which of the following? Husband and wife dirt bag criminals, HQ staff members, blithering idiots? Ok, just pick, they are all one in the same. Those two are so funny. You know what? I hope someone does target them, I think they want it, ya know the type, so they can sue. I hope something happens to them where they need a Trooper and they say, sorry, we are not good enough to be dog catchers, take care of it yourself. Well that's right, the WVSP has too much class to leave even the dirt bags hanging. The troopers would do the job anyway. Is it not the first of the month? As soon as those two get their welfare checks they will be out of the house for a while spending it on beer and smokes. What trash we have posting on this site, obviously ignorant statements from two low lifes. God knows and will judge their foolishness.
Posted by: Lisa on Aug 1, 2007 at 07:09 PM
Troopers pick and choose who they want to hassle. I have set in court and saw them lie their heads off. When they put on that uniform they strut and think that their s--t don't stink. A trooper that worked here has beaten many innocent people and even drew a gun on a deputy assessor. This trooper even made Trooper of the Year for his good work. Now he's probably one of these complaining about the administration even though he made Sagreant for all his good work.
Posted by: me on Aug 1, 2007 at 06:54 PM
he was a good kind man and noone on the face of the earth should ever say anything bad about him
Posted by: Agitated on Aug 1, 2007 at 06:14 PM
To:Chuck and Kim!! The reason this troopers suicide is on here, is because of the stress he was under in the WVSP, haven't you HEARD???? The people that worked with him was very close, they know alot more sometimes than family members!And certainly know alot more about working conditions that they don't share with everyone.
Posted by: RE:CalhounUnderground on Aug 1, 2007 at 05:31 PM
Are you serious? Don't you have something better to do like cry around about the Butchers or something? This is no place to plug your stupid website or your radical, smoked up comments. Folks, fruitcake doesn't even touch it. Don't bother!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 05:22 PM
I don't even want to talk about what my family has sacrificed for this job. I know to those posting such outlandish comments it would not not make a difference. The comments they are posting makes me even more fiercely protective of our troopers and their families.Hearing these comments makes me want to wave my "Fifth Amendment" at those writing them if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 05:12 PM
Being a Trooper is like having welfare with benefits. Wringing the crying towel pointing our fingers.The family is holding their hand out like they are the only ones to ever shed a tear. I can't express how these comments make me feel. Partly because I am sure if I wrote how I feel about those who wrote this BS WSAZ would never post it.One thing I have noticed is that the people with these horrendous comments never tell why these wonderful God fearing people were getting arrested to start with. I guess all the people who have been arrested were angelic creatures just going around sprinkling pixie dust upon us all. If you are determined to demonize troopers by saying they are sadistic bullies ,jack booted thugs, and head breakers then you better tell what a piece of crap the person was they arrested.After all you "Bill of Rights" believers wouldn't want to be caught being one sided or unfairly slanderous would you.
Posted by: Anny on Aug 1, 2007 at 05:08 PM
I would like to see a investagation into the Department and I hope his wife finds all the answers she need's. Denied help that is pretty said.. Seems to me all the persons whom have bloged need to vote and change the system. sounds to me that there is no consideration for the fellow offices in the dept you have a couple of big heads that think they are all that just like a pimple they too can be popped.. untill the stress drives them out, keep on pushing you can only cover up so much befor you start to leave a trail.It is very said that a man puts his life on the line daily and get's paid so little and a pro ball player get's paid Millions makes no sence. God bless this family
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 04:53 PM
Did anyone say that Gonzo was any better than someone else who committed suicide? Gonzo never even believed he was better than anyone. I do think there was more going on than just the pressure at work. Maybe even without the pressure at work he may have killed himself anyway. No one knows. But I do know that he should have been giving the time he requested.I also think that these comments are beyond Gonzo killing himself. This issue has been a pressure cooker for a long time now and when this happened it exploded. Maybe it took the shock of Gonzos suicide whether it was all work related or not to make us confront what has really been going on. Accept it or not there are problems, and they do need fixed.I think concerning this mans life you should all ask yourselves this question. Would Gonzo still be here if he was given the leave he asked for?
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 04:38 PM
Why do you believe that we are o.k. with a man getting beat while in handcuffs? There have been a few cases where a trooper has used his authority beyond what could even be close to considered appropriate. But to group the whole department together the way many have on this site is inappropriate. Don't you think that we understand that those who have a rogue attitude makes the job more dangerous for the rest of us? I don't know the circumstances about the Wolfe case but I do know that no one should ever be hit while handcuffed. Imagine a trooper saying such a thing, it goes against everything you have chosen to believe and write on this site. No, we all don't think we are God's police department. That is a really outrageous comment.There are some who probably believe they hang the moon but do you know something? They would likely feel that way if they were pumping gas somewhere.
Posted by: Calhoun Underground on Aug 1, 2007 at 04:24 PM
Knowsbetter, FYI there is not a SINGLE POST on the Calhoununderground website (which you didn't bother reading anyhow) that is fabricated. That is the problem with your ridicule. I tend to be a credible writer, and I try to keep "fruitcakes" from cluttering up my site with trash. If you read you'd find that the WVSP is under something called "MILITARY Affairs and Public Safety"... Research will show State Police receive military type training. Research WVSP history of how they came to be. You may find it enlightening. Those who complain about the State Police from the inside AND the outside deserve to be heard. No problem can ever be fixed if everyone just shuts up... Yes, this is a VERY serious problem, obviously more so than you care to realize. Look how many posts there are here! Read them. Are all complainers simply trailer trash? Hardly. Maybe Gonzales death is NOT because of the State Police. But it IS a catalyst for something that needed to come out a long time ago. Truth
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 04:17 PM
Governor I called your office to complain against the actions of the state police and could not speak to you. Instead I was transferred to someone else who wanted information concerning my complaint. I sent the info in. This was nearly 8 months ago. Haven't heard anything yet. Guess I will keep waiting.
Posted by: Mike on Aug 1, 2007 at 03:21 PM
Everyone and WVSP, everyone can gripe about their jobs and its stresses. If you were a shoe cobbler, you would gripe too. We have bad leadership, so what? It happens. I dont know about you but I still like being a Troop. I have a cruiser and they pay me well for working in West Virginia. I have citizens who like me and some that don't. The ones that don't like me really don't affect my sleep. As far as the department goes, it's political. Always will be and thats that. Make no mistake, Colonal Lemmon is in charge. Is he a great leader? Absolutely not. But he believes he has the State police interests at heart. Individual members, not so much. It's called micromanagement whith a dash of arrogance. Not the greatest way to lead, but a leadership style none the less. I have not felt the urge to quit just yet though because I believe it will change eventually. I have not wished to commit suicide either, that is betwenn God and Gonzo. I miss him and hope his family is well.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 03:07 PM
To the recent anonymous poster, did you read your post before submitting it, or put any thought into it? You must be WVSP Brass, as you have indicated you don't read the comments, you just write them. Do you really think that was an intelligent statement? Are you actually commenting on a subject or idea without knowing what it is about or what is being said? You have just proven the allegations of many of the Troopers on here in your well written post. Their voices are not being heard. I do realize this post was a waste of my time because as you said, you don't read the comments you just write them.
Posted by: anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 01:43 PM
I am sure Gilley reads this blog. So why not respond to my earlier request? Where's the proof? You were a screw up who didn't do your job. So open up your files and prove me wrong!
Posted by: I see idiot people on Aug 1, 2007 at 01:43 PM
To Kim. I did not know you were there with Wolfe when he was arrested. So glad to see you come forward in his defense. You must have seen him reach for a gun under his seat when told not to. You must have seen him resist arrest when he should not have. Oh, and of course, you must have been with him all night to be his witness that he had not been drinking and driving, making him a beligerent idiot. Kim, your the one that needs to keep your "fact lacking" mouth shut. You must be one of those corn flake eating, welfare SSI check waiting, idiots sitting at the computer in your underwear with nothing else better to do that knowsbetter wrote about. Tell Billy Bob I said hello and don't forget to record Jerry Springer cause you are going to miss it posting stupid comments like the one you just did. Oh, and it's WVSP, not WVST moron. How's that for whinning? Now I know why there is birth control.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 01:42 PM
Can't the Governor see people are sick of this Administration?? Or does he care!! I don't think so. He's on Vacation!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Kim - You are so right with your last statement. Roger Wolfe was the last to be beaten up by the WVST (that we know of) and I guarantee you and everyone reading this that he will be far from the last to get it. I only hope that the "Troopers" are so upset that they put their guns down and walk away. This would be a much better state without them. And I like the comment from the person that said they were "Gods" - yea, the Gods in Green and you better not go up against them. Guilty or not you will pay. Been there I've seen them in action. I haven't had the first ticket - had troopers as friends - which was a major mistake in my life. They took me to the cleaners and now I am paying dearly for what they did to me and my family. Yea, state troopers - do not trust them, do not put faith in them. The organization is nothing but trouble and if I could help Manchin in getting rid of them all - you know where my effort would be. They don't even deserve to be dog catchers!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 12:45 PM
Pity the poor trooper who risks his life every day. When was the last time a trooper died in the line of duty in W? Besides, the only reason people sighn up in the first place is because they are ambulance chasers at heart and being a cop gives them a front row seat. Most LEO go through their entire career and don't hoist anything heavier than a donut let alone pull their guns. It's too bad for all the good officers that there have to be headbreakers and whiners like anonymous to give them a bad name. And another thing, the WVST have the most generous retirement package in all of state government. Who else retires with full benefits after 20 years? And to all those WVST who think they are entitled to brake heads. Many of those you attack and brutalize are teenagers, as you know, and those teenagers grow up and they teach their children to hate cops. When you guys crack a head you're cracking the head of someone's child, or brother or husband. And people remember for a long, long time.
Posted by: Response to Kim on Aug 1, 2007 at 12:14 PM
It is evident that you work in WVSP Hdqs. at South Charleston and you're one of the "click". Stop posting and you won't get the backlash.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 11:43 AM
I don't know what you all are talking about, I think my dad is doing a GREAT job with the WVSP!
Posted by: Knowsbetter on Aug 1, 2007 at 11:25 AM
to calhoununderground. Yes you are a fruitcake. Ever seen the movie conspiracy theory? Oh, that's right, you were the star of the movie! What an idiotic post you had! Oh, and I'm sure that everything posted on that blog is complete truth. I'll be frantically typing to check that site out, NOT!! Because it's BS. WV is under military attack? GET REAL!! Take your meds. Your post probably sounded real good before you actually sent it and SANE people read it. And for the rest of you criminals sitting in your underwear at your computer waiting for your next SSI or welfare checks, go play crazy somewhere else. This post is for a serious problem, not get back at the TROOPER that arrested you or your cousin Billy Bob. I'm not mad at your post, it provided me with entertainment for a short time, just like the rest of you idiots posting nonsense about Troopers. So eat up your corn flakes and turn Jerry Springer back on, The Dukes of Hazard will be on later. Thanks for the brief hilarity.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 10:56 AM
As I scroll down through the comments I've seen the heading of some directed at Me.I would just like to say to people don't waste your time I don't read the comments I just write them.Thank you
Posted by: Kim on Aug 1, 2007 at 10:46 AM
It's amazing what a bunch of whiners the WVST have become. So much for instilling fear and respect. One of their own commits suicide and now suddenly they are all victims of the meanines in state government. Everyone is a victim these days. Some poor soul commits suicide and his family sticks their hand out like they are the only to shed a tear. Now we have troopers wringing the crying towel and pointing fingers at WVST management and the governor. What BS. And where's the sympathy for Roger Wolfe who was beaten by a trooper, while handcuffed, so severly that cranial fluid came out of his nose? If someone is held accountable will another trooper commit suicied? Paleeese. All you former troopers, parents of troopers and wives of troopers need to shut up and go watch some Lifetime Television for women. And why has the media barely reported on Wolfe but is making much ado about Gonzales's death? Somebody at the WVST needs to go to federal prison over the Wolfe incident.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 1, 2007 at 10:39 AM
To WV Tax Payer: Please visit this website and look at how stressful police work actually is www.odmp.org All law enforcement officers strap a gun on their hip and a bulletproof vest on their chest everday knowing that they may be the only thing that stands between them coming home and not coming home. They kiss their children and wife goodbye everday trying not to think that it may be the last time. I know life is unpredictable and I may very well be killed in a car accident, but we as citizens don't go to work everyday knowing that we may have to lay our life on the line. My son tells his daddy everyday "Come home today daddy" and I support law enforcement doing whatever it takes to make that happen. But please look at this website and see all the brave men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice to keep the streets safe for you and I to walk upon. The life of a police family is very different. Know how hurtful your comments are to all those who have given all they had.
Posted by: Half-Unit on Aug 1, 2007 at 10:04 AM
The Corporal Gonzales Memorial fund is up and running, I will be adding more content as time allows. www.pdhelp.us
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Aug 1, 2007 at 09:53 AM
First of I just want to say I have never been in trouble with the law not even a parking ticket.I just beleive in things likee the US Constitution the Bill of Rights things that Troopers around here seem to ignore.I'm sure there are some good Troopers out there I just havn't seen any.I work out in the public and I've seen and herd a lot of things.
Posted by: To Bill W. on Aug 1, 2007 at 09:47 AM
Kim makes more valid statements than any other person on this blog. A man made the choice to kill himself - he wasn't forced to do so. Quite making this man out to be a martyr for your own personal/political agendas.
Posted by: Oh Please !! on Aug 1, 2007 at 09:35 AM
You people make it sound as if Gonzales said " I think I will kill myself just so people will know how horrible the WVSP and things will change..if I do thisall will be fixed for all troopers". My prayers are with the family of this trooper. However I agree totally with Kim...a man is a man no one is any better or any worse than the other "All men are created equal". If this would have been "Bob" who worked as a sewer cleaner no one would have given it a second thought. I think the you all are using this poor man,. If this had not happened you guys would have probably never opened your mouths about your "Boses". Again I am so very sorry for the family's loss and my prayers are with you.
Posted by: Joseph Whipkey (cont'd) on Aug 1, 2007 at 09:28 AM
I know many here have issues with the WVSP. But I personally do not think that the they pushed my brother to the edge. Over the past few years, the people surrounding my brother slowly isolated him away from his real family and friends. My blame does not lie with the WVSP but to those much closer. I know there are those here who believe they knew my brother, but I am his blood. He confided things to me that he did not dare mention to others. I only wished I could have helped him sooner. All I ask is, be respectful to my brother's memory and remember his sons. He was a great policeman, a faithful husband, a loving father, a compassionate son, a dedicated brother, and most of all my best friend...
Posted by: Joseph Whipkey (cont'd) on Aug 1, 2007 at 09:18 AM
Fortunately, we were able to free ourselves from the Whipkey family and start our own lives. Marlo went off to the Air Force with his first wife and had two wonderful sons. After fulfilling his enlistment, Marlo and his family returned to WV, shortly after, he joined the WVSP. Unfortunately, Marlo and his wife soon divorced and they shared custody of their sons. My brother tried to be there for the boys, but through the efforts of his ex-wife and his work, his time was limited. It broke my brother's heart to not be able to see his sons. As time went on, he eventually met and married his second wife, Angel. Sad to say, things are not always as perfect as they seem. You see, my brother was the only person I've ever met (outside my mother) who was so full of love. He never intentionally hurt anyone, and all he ever wanted was happiness. He only wished for unconditional love. No strings attached and no threats made...Needless to say that never happened.
Posted by: Joseph Whipkey on Aug 1, 2007 at 09:07 AM
My name is Joseph Whipkey and I am Marlo Gonzales's youngest brother. I have read most if not all of the posts here on this blog and can understand the confusion and anger that some of you have felt. First let me thank all of you who have given support to our family and to Marlo's sons. There is much speculation here as well as half truths. The truth is that Marlo loved being a trooper. He told me there were times when his job became overbearing but that is like any job out there. The day that he graduated from the academy was one of the happiest days of his life. Contrary to popular belief, my brother joined the WVSP to provide for his family. He wanted to give his sons everything that they wanted, especially things that we did not have as children growing up in the Whipkey family. Some may know this, but my brothers, myself, and my mother were in a very abusive as well as racist family. My father and his family showed no compassion or acceptance to us...
Posted by: FED UP on Aug 1, 2007 at 07:20 AM
I have family in the WVST and I have NEVER seen them so low!! Their morale is so low I am worried. They say this administration in terrible, they don't care about anyone but themselves!! That is the truth.You have men in the department with 20 years service, that can't wait to retire for the poor working conditions. The Lemmons, Barnetts, Tuckers,.Get real Tucker, you know your a sneak! The men in the Dept. don't have any respect for you, doesn't that bother you?! The three are all alike. Why don't you wake up and treat your men like they are men, give them some respect. If you want men to work be nice to them and you will get more work from them. Let them hold their heads high again and like going to work instead of hating every minute of it. I know this for a fact, but NO we can't say our names or we will get in trouble. Wait, if this doesn't go any place, I personally will call Prime Time!!! I worry about my family member!!!
Posted by: Bob on Jul 31, 2007 at 10:24 PM
This is directed to "WV tax payer"...I and I am sure many other bloggers here are sick to death of your garbage. It's easy to call the men in uniform "Punk Kids" until you need them. I know for a fact that the Mason Co. detachment treat it's citizens with respect. If you have received any treatment from them other than that, it's probably because you have treated them with about the same level of respect that you have given to this website.
Posted by: Southern WV on Jul 31, 2007 at 09:22 PM
You can't expect change from a power hungry, egotistical, controling person (Joe Manchin. As an example the midnight call to Kanawha Co. Sheriff about Police Patrols close the the Berry Hills Country Club. Why would he make that call......... and then act like it was no big deal. There is apparently a problem, maybe not as bad as the bloggers make it out to be within the WVSP. I believe there is a bigger problem at the Captiol. Start with the Governor and then our legislature. the majority are self serving, egomaniacs who really could care less for the citizens who time and time again vote the same ones back to "Serve" us for another 2 or 4 years. It would be nice for someone to have a site to comment on state government. I know of many instances of these officials bullying and pressuring the ordinary working man.
Posted by: PK on Jul 31, 2007 at 07:53 PM
First of all I would like to say how sorry I am for Gonzo's family. I had only met Marlo once and he seemed like such a nice man. Second I am a troopers wife I know ,the stress he is under trying to deal with all the dirt bags, drunks, druggies, sex offenders and the list goes on and on. So I don't think they should have to put up with HQ being such jerks. He takes what he calls a vacation and goes on a trip with his guard unit just to get away from the SP for about a week or so. It actually seems to help a little. He says he loves what he does for a living and never complains about what little they get paid. The only complaint I ever hear is about the crap the HQ put them thru. As far as these people talking crap about police officers in general that like to beat people up just for fun. I can tell you my husband is not one of them, but if he has to use force he will. I know of one occasion I witnessed he had no choice but to put the mans face in the dirt. It was rather funny I thought.
Posted by: Chuck on Jul 31, 2007 at 04:07 PM
To Kim, Exactly what I was thinking Kim, they are no better then my next door neighbor who committed suicide. But you know why they get the coverage here that they do? It's because they are God's Police Dept. so they think. Good point kim
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 31, 2007 at 02:59 PM
My prayers are with the Gonzalez family. I cannot imagine the grief you are experiencing. I am married to a trooper. Although I can't agree with the idea that his death is a direct result of Col. Lemmon (no one will ever know all of the reasons why) I am hopefull that the attention this story has received will bring about some major changes. I don't have to tell you how many hours my husband "Donates" to the state of WV, or how much of his paycheck goes to "Plan B" retirement. We've been hearing that the Col. was on his way out the door since my husband was hired. Things were apparently so bad between Manchin and Lemmon that they would not agree to be seen on the same stage at the last cadet class graduation. Now, with Sen. Byrd apparently planning to endorse Manchin as his "heir" I think we can rest assured that the issues will be ignored. And you can bet Manchin will not be getting this citizen's vote. Not for a man who lets politics get in the way of doing right thing.
Posted by: Common Sense on Jul 31, 2007 at 02:36 PM
If the Governor's office truly cares they would permit Troopers to unionize and have collective bargaining rights within the membership to address issues in leadership and administration. As it stands Troopers have to recourse, it preposterous to say that Troopers must come forward when you are obviously siding with a political appointee (particularly one you appointed) and attempted to ignore the whole issue. I understand that associating yourself with a difficult issue may hurt you later in the polls but I would hope people remember the Governor's actions during the next election. I hate that Gonzo did this to himself, but if you look at the over 600 posts you will see a common thread that even an idiot has to believe has some validity. Lets use some common sense here because it seems obvious no-one in government cares about the welfare of Troopers in West Virginia; if someone in government does "we'd" like to hear from you.
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Jul 31, 2007 at 02:16 PM
If most Troopers were ex-military they would be use to top brass that don't really care.As for me I'm just glad to see Troopers get treated like they treat citizens.Do un to others
Posted by: Sad To Say on Jul 31, 2007 at 12:47 PM
WSAZ, the're appears to be much missing from those who have expressed dissatisfaction with the current administration. From those who have taken much pains and time to tell the truth. You won't get much more truth than you can get here. There are those within the systemnow trying to offset the penalities. Too late!!!! Have they gotten to WSAZ????
Posted by: Bill W. on Jul 31, 2007 at 12:41 PM
KIM, You just don't know!!!
Posted by: BY ME on Jul 31, 2007 at 11:59 AM
To those of you who are on here complaining about the State Police who you say have mistreated you or a loved one. It's simple, don't speed, don't try to fight back and act like a tuff guy when you are under arrest, don't get down on a police officer for doing his/her job, in other words...DON'T BREAK THE LAW. The reason no one can but their name on here, is everyone needs their job, to feed their family. This is the worse administration in the WVSP, Lemmon is worse than Hill and he was bad enough. It's time for a REAL LEADER. Someone who truly cares about the department, and not just about making a name for himself or giving his family members a high rank.
Posted by: Tax Payer 3 on Jul 31, 2007 at 11:54 AM
I want to say a few things here. This is a very sad tragedy here and my heart goes out to the family. But I feel that there is more problems in the Dept. then what is being told. Look at Point Pleasant Detachment if you think that it is not a numbers game. I don't know how many times the Troopers have been pulled off one thing just to go and write tickets. I have had Troopers tell me this and I have also heard the Detachment Sgt. order them to do so. Another thing here in Mason County, How many times do you see them patrol out in the county? just ask those who live out in the County. How many times do you see them staying in the cities that already have Police Dept's? Just look around. They do not want to do anything if it doesn't get them front news coverage. Just call your local 911 and check the facts or call the WVSP HQ'S and get a copy of the stats that the WVSP keep themselves of all the Car Wrecks and crimes in the state. You will be surprised who does the work. I was.
Posted by: Regina on Jul 31, 2007 at 11:29 AM
The State Police are a brutish bunch, witness the way they treated coalfield citizens when the Governor asked them to eject the citizens from his reception area. It would be a difficult operating environment for a person who didn't buy into the culture of police butality.
Posted by: Citizen on Jul 31, 2007 at 11:16 AM
It is time for a citizens review board for the WVSP.
Posted by: David....... on Jul 31, 2007 at 11:10 AM
Help is on the way. The State will be back in business in 2009. Thanks You for taking back Your State. 2009 will not be too soon.
Posted by: 40th Cadet on Jul 31, 2007 at 11:04 AM
People get real, I was a trooper for 15 years and realized from day 1 that the good O'le boy system is strong and alive. You were either in or out. In meant good details,shift work that worked for you and your family,golf outings,and not being transferred, out meant of course the worst details and shifts, being harrassed by your superiors, and having to work in fear of wondering about your next transfer. To the wives and the public, I say just get use to it for it will not change, like it or not the state police has more control over your loved one than you do and they love having that power. They can tell them where to go, when to go, and how to get there and you can just sit and watch.How many divorces do you think the State Police caused in the past 15 years because of this control, think about that? What happened to Gonzo is a tragedy, one that might have been prevented if his superiors would have listened to the man. Lemmon and Barnhart, shame on you !!!
Posted by: Tom A....... on Jul 31, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Corporal Gonzales, thank YOU. It took a great family's sacrafice to bring to the attention of the good people of this State what is really behind the scenes of Our governmental administration. When, and if, the truth gets told, there will be change. And probably much more quicker that origionally thought. It may not actually be four-more years beginning in 2009. Those of you who have chosen to speak out now, will get the chance to speak again. May of 2008 will be very interesting now instead of an automatic buy.
Posted by: CalhounUnderground on Jul 31, 2007 at 10:26 AM
State troopers have a VERY BAD reputation. They CAUSE much more trouble than they solve. The trooper who they found shot? Either he was actually an HONORABLE person who simply couldn't take what has to be the WORST job in the world, OR there is more than meets the eye, and with only OTHER troopers investigating, we'll probably NEVER know.They cover for their own. And they are accomplished liars. Don't think State Troopers are THAT big of a problem in WV? Google CalhounUnderground, a WV blog, for a collection of TRUE WV State Police stories. Our state is in SERIOUS trouble and we NEED HELP!!! We are under military attack!And no, I'm not a fruitcake... This is REAL.
Posted by: Frustrated on Jul 31, 2007 at 09:59 AM
The bottom line is the Lemmons and Tucker have drug our Department to new all time lows. Never before has the morale been so low and the resignations so fast. Ruth has been allowed to have her input into this department for entirely too long. This once proud West Virginia State Police has been turned into the Lemmon State Police.
Posted by: Kim on Jul 31, 2007 at 09:32 AM
To all of you who are calling for some sort of investigation into Gonzalez's death, I want to ask you. Why? Do you really want to pin blame for the guy's suicide on his superiors at work for god's sake?! Col. Lemmon is a supervisor, he's not a hand holder nor is he an emotional babysitter for a bunch of grown men. If anything should be invetigated it should be the brutal beating of Charleston lawyer Roger Wolfe. The WVST have long had a reputation for being head breakers and jack booted thugs. Many of them are sadistic bullies. The very nature of the WVST attracks such people. It's a pitiful shame about Gonzales but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. The guy, for whatever reason, chose to shoot himself. Get over it people and stop making this a dramatic consipiracy. Besides, it will fade. The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.
Posted by: David S. on Jul 31, 2007 at 09:10 AM
A tribute to Cpl. Gonzals. Thank You!! If anyone with the expertise could start a seperate blogg only about the current status within the WVSP and the WV Regional Jail Authority would be doing both Cpl. Gonzales and the tremendous mumber of emplyoees within these two very good agenices a great service. Thank You Cpl. Gonzales. "You will be missed and forever remmered".
Posted by: Former TFC J.D. Bird on Jul 31, 2007 at 09:08 AM
There have been many good Troopers "pushed out" by being given the choice to resign or be fired. I personally worked with 3 in a period of less than 2 years. In that same amount of time I worked with 3 others one with more than 6 years experience who had won awards from MADD for being one of the leaders state wide in DUI arrests another who was an ex-sergeant with over 14 years on the job who had trained many successful Troopers and the third, not including myself, had been awarded the honor of Trooper of the Year shortly before the mistreatment by certain Sgt(s) LTs and Capt. got to be unbearable. The "leaders?" in the eastern panhandle will collectively pressure and bully a certain trooper, who they have created a personal issue, until that trooper dreads coming to work for fear of some form of retaliation. The WVSP uses its policies and procedures as a book of suggestions enforcing what they want when they want and only on who they want. Governor, What you tolerate you encourage.
Posted by: messengershub on Jul 31, 2007 at 09:06 AM
For State Trooper Marlo Gonzales For the Investigation of this case Petition Signatures 1 someonewhoknows2much Yes, please make a change. 2 Mary Hazen teh people around the country are watching this Please do the right thing and honor this petition 3 Ileene Marcuse 4 Joy 5 Casandra Parker If these allegations are true...something SHOULD be done about the situatoin. 6 Amber Gain 7 Jessica Carney 8 Dana Pucci 9 Jessica Berry 10 girlfriday Hopefully this atttention will finally open some eyes up and change will come. 11 fred smith 12 Kathryn Cooper 13 brianna Taylor 14 Stacy I think this was a horrible thing to have to happen before it opened anyones eyes 15 SG Harvey Concerned for our Toopers 16 Joe Riffle 17 Kristen 18 HOPE HINRICHS SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE LET IT BE DONE FOR GONZO 19 LEMMONCORRUPTION 20 Lorrie Mottesheard God bless the WVSP but someone needs to keep them honest and just! 21 Dee-Anne Wriston What about a bill
Posted by: anonymous on Jul 31, 2007 at 08:53 AM
We still haven't heard from Gilley again. All of you who know Gilley say he's a good man and an honest one. So why doesn't he take his father (who posted here on his behalf) and go sign to open up his personnel file for public scrutiny? The guy is lying. How many people would actually go home and tell his wife, father, brother that he was an incompentent fool who didn't do his job? Not Gilley. He'd rather lie about his failures and blame his supervisors. He was a joke and everyone who worked with him knew it.
Posted by: To Complainers on Jul 31, 2007 at 08:43 AM
Yup, the WVSP are putting punks in green uniforms BECAUSE Lemmon fires the good ones and they aren't exactly lining up to be treated like dirt for little pay. They had to lower their standards. Lots of others have gotten the 'axe' as you put it that didn't deserve it, but are happy now and aren't interested in going back. Even more went to work for railroad, coal mines, school boards, etc. because of the hassle. The ones who love law enforcement are working for city/county departments where they don't have to worry about their bosses sticking knives in their backs.
Posted by: Greg S. on Jul 31, 2007 at 08:26 AM
Our prayers are with the Gonzales family. The man who gave all now deserves peace in the fact that he has very well began the biggest change in State Gov. If the upper 1/3 of state personnel could speak openly, there would be major changes at the very top. When someone is currently saying something positive about the current administration,the're only a part of it, in one form or another.Everyone else knows the truth. Those employees in state government, who supported Joe in the election process, are now smothering in what they think they have helped create. Well, so was the general public so fooled. It took an expert to pull that off. Just what type of expert that is, will now be unveiled. The experienced political barrons will say " No other democrat governor has been defeated in the bid for his second term". Now, the're can be another first time. A man just died to save his department,and he may well have saved the state. Investigate the Regional Jail Authority and the WVSP. Its bad!
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Jul 31, 2007 at 08:26 AM
As I see it WV State Troopers have no idea what stress really is.There over paid and under worked.There paid by the state to ride around in an air conditioned car and push citizens around.It's a welfare check with benafits.
Posted by: Shelia on Jul 31, 2007 at 07:21 AM
1st. of all I want to say that to keep posting MY comments,would just make me look as imature as those that have not remembered what I said in the 1st.comment I made. I said routine questioning,I said only 2 troopers,and I also said here in MASON,CO.!I know there are GOOD troopers out there that put their lives in the line everyday.There are troopers out there that are concerned about the safty and well being of others ! STOP acting like I don't know what happened in my case! It is YOU that seems to be blinded by the TRUTH !When to vic. ask for a lie dect. test about what happened and was refused ? HUM? Those of you that like putting me DOWN,LOL,can KISS where the sun don't shine ! This did happen and YOU DON'T know or Care !
Posted by: another wv tax payer on Jul 31, 2007 at 02:39 AM
I am a trooper, and I pay taxes too. And being a law enforcement officer, I have to occasionally get punched, spat on, cursed, to include being shot at twice. I have even been hit by a car when someone was fleeing. So you know what? I have hit back. Yep, used my fists and punched. Wanna know why? I can defend myself. I can use force on people who resist. And I will use more force than the one being used against me or someone else. Tends to keep me alive. I also like to go home at the end of my shift like most police officers nation wide. So when some people like to bash police, it makes me wonder why they are doing so. Either they are ignorant to the day to day duties or they or someone they know has done something that warranted a police response. Are there police that abuse their authority? Yes I am sure. Thankfully I don't know any. Job is stressful as it is. It goes from really boring to I am probably going to get killed on this call. Why should HQ add to that stress?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 31, 2007 at 12:28 AM
I would like to hear more about how Perry,Wagner,and Morris was pushed out. Someone wrote that another guy got the axe. Who was he?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 31, 2007 at 12:19 AM
Sheila you should talk to Lemmon and Barnett about what you think of the WVSP. Who sprinkled drama queen in your breakfast? The truth is , troopers are too busy doing their job to worry about what you are writing on this blog. Again, you are taking one troopers actions and blanketing the whole department with it. If troopers beat people the way you are saying they would have been dismantled and cease to exist. I know for a fact that my husband has been on calls where people have pulled guns and knives on him. There have been people who resisted arrest and those that were high on drugs and extremely violent. He always strives to cleanup a situation without force. Most of the time that is effective and sometimes you have to knock a little louder on someones door for them to get the message. Frankly when I hear him tell me about people who try to assault him, I want to beat their butt!
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Jul 31, 2007 at 12:03 AM
Here in Mason County one of the main problems is they hire a bunch of punk kids on the State Police force.They put on the green uniform the Big hat and sun glasses and they are on a power trip.It's more than likly that way all over the state.How do we know that Col.Lemmon isn't just trying to weed these guys out.And they don't like it so they are tring to make him look bad.
Posted by: To Concerned: on Jul 30, 2007 at 11:32 PM
FYI, Gonzo asked for help and was denied. Stop being concerned until you've read the facts.
Posted by: Hope:I agree with Faith on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Deadra, I agree all the children need to be included in the fund equally,because of the reason one of the boys is at your house all the time. Those of us who know the family are aware of said familys history. I am all for helping as long as everyone benefits.
Posted by: BM on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:35 PM
The decision by the governor and WVSP Superintendant to not lower the flags at state offices was inexcusable. Cpl. Gonzales served the WVSP with honor, distiction, and pride for over 13 years. He was a compassionate trooper that was always a credit to the WVSP. This is just another example of how this administration treats troopers as second class citizens. I for one will remember this slight come election day.
Posted by: ex-civilian on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:33 PM
WSAZ is not posting all comments. I posted one several days ago, still not on here???
Posted by: concerned on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:23 PM
I FIRST WANT TO SAY HOW SORRY I AM FOR HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN AND OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS. NOW, WITHOUT TRYING TO SOUND COLD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS STORY GO AWAY. EVERYONE IS READY TO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE FOR ACTIONS HE CAUSED. HE OBVIOUSLY HAD PROBLEMS. WHY IS EVERYONE BLAMING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THIS GUY KILLING HIMSELF? WHY DOESN'T ANYONE WANT TO PUT THE BLAME ON HIM FOR NOT GETTING HIS OWN HELP. HE WAS A GROWN MAN AND THERE ARE MANY COUNSELORS ETC. AROUND THAT YOU CAN GO TO AND GET HELP, EVEN FREE ONES. THERE MAY BE PROBLEMS AT THE POLICE DEPT., BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GO AND KILL YOURSELF. HE MUST HAVE BEEN VERY DISTRAUGHT.
Posted by: Herschel on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:32 PM
Here is the url to sign the petition: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WVSP
Posted by: Petition Answer on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:27 PM
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WVSP
Posted by: Michelle on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:08 PM
I think all this is so sad. I don't know anyone who has posted comments but I do know that I have alot of respect for J. Gilley. I watched the interview with him on WSAZ and I think he done such a great job. Everything he said was from his heart. I think Bob truly is a good friend to you Gilley and I hope you get to be a trooper again someday also. But if you choose not to or whatever happens in your life, I have lots of respect for you. And to Corporal Marlo Gonzalas' wife and children, I am sorry for your loss and though it won't bring you husband/father back, I hope you get some peace when, hopefully, these people who are responsible for all this are released from their jobs.
Posted by: Bill W. on Jul 30, 2007 at 08:12 PM
To the family and friends of Cpl.Gonzales. This State has lost a great man, husband, father, friend and State Policeman. Everyone in this State has Your family in their prayers. It is a crying shame that a man such as Cpl. Gonzales gave his life in order to change the way state government is run today, and as we shamefully know it.. There are other State Agencies in the same, horrible, shape. Next is the WV Regional Jail Authority. Lighting has struck, at least twice, in the appointment of agency directors. The Regional Jail Authority is simply ready to topple. The current Ex. Director has horribly turned this agency into a disaster. It would appear that this administration made the most major mistakes, in all history, in the appointment of agency heads. It would be a rude awakening, for the entire existing administration, if the election process for Governor was held today, and only within State Government, the existing administration would topple to the ground. Ask them!
Posted by: Grandson of Trooper on Jul 30, 2007 at 08:02 PM
Trooper Gilley, as a friend and a neighbor I am behind you 110% My grandfather served 26 years and it seemed every time he did something he felt honorable and right in the eyes of law enforcement, the folks in Charleston sent him packing and that's how he ended up in Point Pleasant. There needs to be an outlet for all Troopers to be able to voice their concerns. There are way too many WVSP's who are honest, dedicated and genuinely good hearted people and I feel J. Gilley falls into that category. He, like many others, go to work, know they have a job to do and get it done. When you have too many chiefs and not enough Indians morale rapidly declines, productivity falls on the back burner and you spend 10 hrs out of a 12 hr shift not trying to cause a stir within the department. Gov Manchin needs to take a hard look at the WVSP as a whole and hire an outside firm to conduct an Internal Investigation of this organization before our children do not want to become State Troopers.
Posted by: Family Member on Jul 30, 2007 at 07:53 PM
The trust fund being set up by Deadra does include all 3 children of marlos.' They are all a very important part of their father who loved them very much. May God bless them and keep them as they go on this journey of life. May the blessings of God follow all who give to help his children.
Posted by: Retired Trooper on Jul 30, 2007 at 06:12 PM
WSAZ, If my memory is correct, one of the first pieces of legislation or the first legislative rule that was passed when Col. Lemmon took office pertained to a new policy on transfers. I don't know all the particulars on it but it could be easily checked by an investigative reporter. If it does exist, it would be most interesting to see just how many transferrs that happened after the legislation was passed. Also pay particular particular attention to those in the "FOLD" to include schools and specialized training that the "FOLD MEMBERS" received.
Posted by: ONE WV FOR A CHANGE on Jul 30, 2007 at 05:49 PM
OK it has been over a week now since we laid Marlo's body to rest. BUT our WVSP are not at peace. Gov. Manchin why are protecting the Lemmons is it due to your relationship with Ruth. If you do not want to make a change within the dept I guarantee that the GOP (Republican Party) will make a stand in 2008 for our Troopers. I personally will take as many signs around the state for our canidate and show proof where you have neglected your duties to protect the troopers of the state of WV. Keeping this WVSP administration could be your greatest down fall to your political career. Look people we need to stand and say YOU GOT TO GO JOE! ANOTHER DEMOCRAT AGAINST JOE!
Posted by: W.V.Tax payer on Jul 30, 2007 at 05:22 PM
I would just like to say to the anonyous who said maybe all the guys in green should lay down there uniforms and let us protect ourselves.I wish to God they would I can do a lot better job.
Posted by: Nick on Jul 30, 2007 at 04:10 PM
What is wrong with everyone. WV has the most highly trained State Police Officers with some of the lowest pay. This is a fact. The people of WV pay for the State Police. We also pay for the Governer and his staff. WE as tax payers should demand an investigation and if the Governers office will not grant it then we should get oust him and his administration. These are hard working West Virginians that keep us safe. They are to protect and serve. Why won't our state government let them do that without fear for their safety and personnal well being. There are alot of jobs where you have to put up with alot of unnecessary stuff. No one, i mena no one should have to worry about their safety from their supervisors. This constitutes an unsafe work environment and that is a federal criminal offense. These Proud Troopers already have to worry everytime they put on a uniform from the "bad guys" they should not have to worry about one of thier own.
Posted by: kim on Jul 30, 2007 at 04:06 PM
I don't understand why this cop's suicide is such big news simply because he's a trooper. As soon as that trooper died everyone jumped to blame the State Police for poor morale. Well, if you commit suicide because you don't like your job then it doesn't take much. I've had jobs that made me want to committ suicide and you know what I did? I quit. Trooper Gonzales clearly had some very serious problems and to blame poor morale within the State Trooper organization is just outlandish. A woman in my office shot and killed herself very recently and no one blamed the bosses. People commit suiced every day and a state trooper's suicide is no more tragic or newsworthy than anyone else's.
Posted by: A Friend on Jul 30, 2007 at 03:46 PM
Another Trooper, a corporal,..resigned today, he will be missed. Someone has got to see that we are dropping off fast.
Posted by: Deadra on Jul 30, 2007 at 03:22 PM
Faith, no I did not forget he has 2 other wonderful boys, one of who stays at our house all the time. Thanks for your concern. Deadra
Posted by: Anonymous 2 on Jul 30, 2007 at 03:22 PM
Have you ever heard of a governor calling the sheriff of a county to inquire why there were road patrols in a certain part of the county, and why some of his friends were receiving citations. I sure don't see that much action being taken involving the WVSP investigation - or lack of investigation.....
Posted by: Fed Up Trooper's Wife on Jul 30, 2007 at 03:00 PM
To Sheila and others: As the wife of a WV Trooper for 14 years, I have doubt you all are prime examples of the good-for-nothing, low-lifes that my husband and others deal with daily. If you don't like the treatment you get, stop calling, if you're not the one calling then stop committing crimes against others. My husband and others Troopers are constantly responding to domestics and other situations where some couple or family is trying to kill each other, has the law called, and once Troopers respond they want to unite and turn on those Troopers who were sent to help them. The Troopers are then put into a situation where they have to take a defensive stand because they have some mouthy know-it-all female (much like you) ranting and raving about "their rights". If you stop breaking laws, you won't have to worry about what kind of treatment you receive from the State Police, trust me, one less piece of crap for them to have to deal with, would very much be appreciated!!!!!
Posted by: trooper on Jul 30, 2007 at 02:49 PM
Hey Shelia and anonymous, have you filed a complaint with the WVSP? If not, why? If so, keep your mouth shut until the outcome is revieled. If the troopers were wrong, then good, so be it. If not, enough said. As for troopers coming to retaliate against you as you insinuate, give me a break! This is no movie or television show. Stop being so dramatic. I believe I posted that some police are bad apples, but only a fraction of 1%.That's a fact! Look at the research!And that's right anonymous... were you and Shelia there? That's what I thought.Oh, and we don't have to wait until we get injured before defending ourselves!How stupid of a comment was that?We are allowed to use the amount of force necessary to gain compliance or one level of force greater than being used,or attempted against us!I supose we have to wait to be hit, shot, stabbed,or what ever in your eyes before we can act.Let's see you operate in our job using your rules for a day,let alone a career. God will judge me just fine.
Posted by: Fed Up Trooper's Wife on Jul 30, 2007 at 02:15 PM
To Sheila and others: As the wife of a WV Trooper for 14 years, I have doubt you all are prime examples of the good-for-nothing, low-lifes that my husband and others deal with daily. If you don't like the treatment you get, stop calling, if you're not the one calling then stop committing crimes against others. My husband and others Troopers are constantly responding to domestics and other situations where some couple or family is trying to kill each other, has the law called, and once Troopers respond they want to unite and turn on those Troopers who were sent to help them. The Troopers are then put into a situation where they have to take a defensive stand because they have some mouthy know-it-all female (much like you) ranting and raving about "their rights". If you stop breaking laws, you won't have to worry about what kind of treatment you receive from the State Police, trust me, one less piece of crap for them to have to deal with, would very much be appreciated!!!!!
Posted by: Unanswered on Jul 30, 2007 at 01:16 PM
Did Gonzalez have an attorney on retainer? What for? Who was he/she? Were items taken from his cruiser and destroyed after his suicide? Had his in-cruiser equipment been tampered with?
Posted by: W.V.Tax Payer on Jul 30, 2007 at 12:42 PM
I wish they would all lay down there uniforms and quit.Shela's son didn't attack the officers.They handcuffed him and beat him.Because thats the kind of cowards we have in Mason County for State Troopers.
Posted by: To South Charleston Trooper on Jul 30, 2007 at 12:39 PM
If you have verifiable information and WSAZ refuses to post your evidence PLEASE get in touch with a NEWS organization that is willing to tell the ENTIRE story. Innocent lives are being destroyed by these malicious comments!
Posted by: FORMER OFFICER on Jul 30, 2007 at 12:20 PM
RE: "BRASS ROW", To be honest it is prescription meds for me to be able to sleep at night since the stress and trauma I endured on the job, Oh, and the meds to get thru my day, EVERYDAY. As for some others, I figure both that are still in the line of duty, on their days off. AND AS FOR THE ONE'S THAT DID IT TO US, THAT HAVE RECIEVED PROMOTIONS AND RAISES AFTER THE FACTS & INVESTIGATIONS: They have no conscious, they THINK they are just living the good life and "untouchable" (Notice I put that in quotations because that's what I was told). RE: WATCH & SEE, you are exactly right!! EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO THAT COMMENT POSTED OVER AND OVER. Thanks again WSAZ for the comments posted and God Bless the family of Trooper Gonzales & all the WVSP that endure their jobs to help others and provide for their families. Thank you.
Posted by: a trooper on Jul 30, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Governor, give us a common sense man, who will lead by example, a good leader will inspire good things. Any pay raise is good, and thank you,..but at this point I am willing for you to take the money back if you will clean up the upper echelon of the State Police. Sometimes less stree is better than more money, both would be great, but I guess that is too much to as for. Don't you think this had brought shame and embarassment on the State Police?. I know of Troopers who were charged with "undermining the effectiveness of the State Police". I guess that only applies to certain people. Give us a leader that will bring back pride and effectiveness. YOUR Troopers are asking for help. Are you going to answer with anything other than "you hear rumors", and "I have received no complaints"? The longer this goes, the more we can expect a mass punishment. I guess those that can do something do not possess the intestinal fortitude to do so........
Posted by: Trying on Jul 30, 2007 at 11:22 AM
Is anyone else having trouble locating the petition? Can WSAZ place a direct link to it on here? I have tried typing in some of the addys listed below but keep getting sent to just the petition spot,,cant find the one for WVSt. Cant sign if cant find
Posted by: faith on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:29 AM
to deadra since you are in the process of starting a trust for angel and jacob DID YOU FORGET THAT HE HAS TWO OTHER CHILDREN that those to whom you would like to donate may like for all of his children to bebefit
Posted by: Bob on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:04 AM
Thank you J. Gilley for coming forward. You have demonstrated honesty and integrity, that which the WVSP is supposed to stand for. While I am personal friends with Jason and several other law enforcement officers on a state, county and local level, I realize and I hope everyone else does as well, that the "conspiracy" is not infecting all troopers. I am friends with many who wear the badge and treat it with the respect and honor that it deserves. All Jason ever wanted in his life was to serve his community as a WVSP. And now, due to the politics and egos of the upper echilon, that may never happen again. Jason, you don't have to wear a green uniform to have honor my friend...I hope that one day you will again wear that uniform, because I know it is your heartbeat.
Posted by: Agitated on Jul 30, 2007 at 05:46 AM
The article in the paper was a joke yesturday!! Investingating nation wide about suicides!!!! Da!!! Get real!!!! We want the WVST investigated about all the harassment!Spears knows there are problems, he's been talking about them before all this happened!!But he will never report them now!
Posted by: Watch & See on Jul 30, 2007 at 01:25 AM
The administration and the politicians know that if they can just weather the initial storm of all this, it will all just go away, and things will be back to normal. Wonder why nothing else is being said? they won't say anything,..it will give the public and Troops something to attack, and they know people will lose interest,.. they are counting on it. STAY THE COURSE!! don't let them win this easily,...if they do win,..let's atleast let them know they have been in a fight,..and we are tired of being treated like substandard human beings, because we are not in the click, or just happen to disagree with them. STAY THE COURSE!
Posted by: BRASS ROW? on Jul 29, 2007 at 11:55 PM
HOW DO YOU ALL SLEEP AT NIGHT, PILLS OR ALCOHOL?
Posted by: QuitWVSP4BetrJob on Jul 29, 2007 at 10:32 PM
I am a former Tpr. having left the WVSP for a better paying job & I am still in contact with many of my former Troops. These guys are absolutely in a state of disillusionment with the current admin. I can't speak to whether or not their complaints are legit, but I have no reason to not believe them. 1 of them says that Col. Lemmon told Troops attending in-service that if they used the grievance process to file against the department, they would have to file their grievance from the unemployment line. If this occurred, there were likely 20-40 witnesses. Again, IF this occurred, any witness to this should send a detailed statement to Secretary Spears' office and describe the circumstances. If this were verified, this would be enough to FORCE Gov. Manchin to replace Col. Lemmon. Clearly, Col. Lemmon has lost the confidence of his subordinates. THEY ARE ALL IN FEAR OF RETALIATION AND THEY SIMPLY CAN'T GIVE THEIR NAMES. GOV. MANCHIN, PLEASE REPLACE COL. LEMMON. DON'T LET THIS GO ON.
Posted by: Trooper on Jul 29, 2007 at 10:25 PM
SP problems started with the last administration's appointment of Hill, who knew nothing about the Department. The Superintendent is a political appointment by the Governor and that brings politics into the SP. The Superintendent appoints all positions Captain and above so they have to play politics if they want to get the position and want to keep it, the position is at the will and pleasure of the Superintendent, just as his position is at the will of pleasure of the Governor. With that type of set up, how could politics not enter into the SP. The Career Progression System was suppose to take care of the personality contest for promotion but it, obviously, hasn't worked. The SP Captains, Majors, Lt. Col. have to show they are doing their jobs by making sure the troopers under their command are showing numbers. They need some motivational training on how to get troopers to produce not by threats amd intimidation. Lemmon and his senior staff need to be replaced NOW, Governor Joe!
Posted by: Helen on Jul 29, 2007 at 09:58 PM
I work with illegal firings in the state of Va. Here we have rules and procedures. You cannot fire someone or force their resignation like former Trooper Gilley claims without a LOT of evidence of incompentence or misconduct. An internal affairs investigation would have had to be completed and approved on several levels. I suspect Gilley is not telling the truth. He is likely trying to blame his failures on others to save face. If indeed he is telling the truth, he needs to request his personnel file be opened for scrutiny and let all see how he was mistreated or persecuted. If there is wrongdoing, attorneys would come forward eager to represent him. Gilley, if YOU have nothing to hide, request your file be opened for WSAZ and the newspapers. As for poor Gonazles, he must have been a troubled man. But if your trooper brotherhood is so strong, why didn't those of you who say you knew him well offer help? Anonymous counseling is readily available for state police here in VA. Is it in WV?
Posted by: troopers wife on Jul 29, 2007 at 09:10 PM
Cpt. Barnette has done nothing but torture all of the troops within his troop. He has had it out for my husband from day one. It causes nothing but stress and stress leads to troubles at home. I feel for Gonzo's family. I pray for them daily. Barnette needs to be knocked down off of his high horse. He is not respected with the troops. How can you work for someone who doesn't deserve respect. No one can trust him. And in this line of work that is not safe. Get rid of Barnett and you will get rid of the unnecessary bs in the state police. They need to concentrate while they are out in the field. Not worry if they are gonna' get there butts jacked if they don't have enough contacts! There is a lot more to police work than tickets.
Posted by: Trooper on Jul 29, 2007 at 07:36 PM
It is now time to spread the information that is necessary. As we said previously this is unfortunately a political battle and not a battle of right and wrong. The largest political backing for the Lemmons is the WV Automobile and Truck Dealers Association, www.wvcar.com. This same association is and was instrumental in the Joe Manchin campaigns. Ruth Lemmon, wife of Colonel D. L. Lemmon and mother of First Lieutenant D. L. Lemmon, II is the president of the association. Voice your opinions to automobile and truck dealers, don't purchase their products if they do not listen. Visit the dealers website and contact the board members directly. If it were not for Ruth Lemmon and her position with the dealers association then there would be no Colonel Lemmon. There would just be retired WVSP member D. L. Lemmon and once that political horsepower is removed 1st/Lt. D. L. Lemmon, II can be placed into a position that would be fitting of his management style and ability. We will be heard!
Posted by: TFC on Jul 29, 2007 at 07:05 PM
I can't believe some of these messages are actually from the members of the WVSP. We need to just do our jobs and quit bickering. This is not the time nor the place to be making negative comments in regards to any of the members of this department.
Posted by: Civilian on Jul 29, 2007 at 04:03 PM
Gov Manchin and Col Lemmon do not want to investigate "anonymous" complaints, so then why do the Troopers of WV have to investigate hundreds of anonymous complaints that are send to the WVSP website. They have to be investigated and then the Trooper has to report back to their superiors with their findings. How much time is that wasting? For the most part these are false, not enough info to follow up with and who is the victim if the person remains anonymous ?????
Posted by: Deadra on Jul 29, 2007 at 01:33 PM
I am in the process of setting up a trust fund for Angel and 2 year old Jacob.It will be at the hurricane branch BB&T. Tim Irr will be the first to know when it is ready and will inform everyone else .Please keep this family and the rest of our troopers and their families in your prayers.People outside of the state police have NO idea what they go thru. Deadra
Posted by: Shelia S.TO WSAZ NEWS on Jul 29, 2007 at 01:02 PM
I guess I have stepped on some toes now! I am getting calls from concerned friends warning me of what I might be headed for.If these "WARNINGS ARE TRUE" then I hope you as a News Station will look into it.Thank You
Posted by: Shelia Stone on Jul 29, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Trooper,whoever!My son didn't attack anyone in ur post and you know it as well as I do! He wasn't the first and won't by far be the LAST and YOU know it!There is 1 man ONLY that YOU will have to answer to.PITTYFULL LOL IS MORE LIKE IT!You see ,when you live in a small community like ours,everyone hears what EVERYONE does.Clean you own house before you advise someone on how to clean theirs!I am only 1 of many that have loved ones that has been treated in such manner.There are many more going far above this on-line "TO TELL THE TRUTH TALK" May GOD bless you and you have a nice day now!
Posted by: 14 year vet on Jul 29, 2007 at 11:27 AM
this administration has been no different than the rest. monday morning quarterbacking by the entire leadership of the state police. they magically lose touch with the field officers once they are promoted. to govonor manchin, your request to come forward and not be anonymous is ridiculous. are you not aware that there are policies in our policy and procedure book (by the way is about 1 ft thick) that prohibt a state trooper from saying anything derogatory about the state police. i was once suspended for 5 days for what the department called causing embarrasement to them. they couldnt come up with any real violation since there was none so they used that. i guess they forgot about the hundreds of news stories that were done on all of the cases i worked over the years. gov manchin and spears are just as out of touch as the administation. your raise was a joke. troopers are still quitting and leaving. we still cover entire counties with little or no backup.
Posted by: messengershub on Jul 29, 2007 at 11:11 AM
1####Tom I am not being anonymous, my name is Thomas Wagner and I was recently fired after 18 1/2 years with the State Police. I will gladly speak with Governor Manchin. Especially of how the State Police Internal Affairs picks and chooses which complaints they will investigate. An example is; I made a complaint against a supervisor for ordering his subordinates to falsify monthly paperwork, it was never looked into. The good ol' boy system in the State Police is as strong as ever 2####the news humm need more look and do ! do your job make life better for all in green the truth well aways stand!
Posted by: Bill on Jul 29, 2007 at 10:48 AM
I was taught as a child to respect the WVSP, for their courage, dedication and for the job they have to do. I still carry that respect with me to this day. I was also very proud when my brother was hired as a trooper 18 years ago. I see the toll the WVSP has taken on my brother. He explained to me it was coming from poor leadership in WVSP administration. How the leadership has changed from when they were true leaders and mentors to now only looking out for themselves and making life miserable for troops that are not in their cliques. My brother was fired from the WVSP after 18 1/2 yrs of dedicated service. He was transferred several times across the state making him endure hardships with his family. Is the Gov. going to continue to allow poor leadership to make life changing decisions for troopers who are out there risking their lives for me and other citizens of this State? We see from this tragedy that it does not work. Gov Manchin look into these allegations!!!
Posted by: right on Jul 29, 2007 at 09:40 AM
i believe the governor needs to investigate why gonzales was transferred so much. they are not supposed to be able to transfer you for disciplinary reasons. they would have a hard time saying a transfer to south chas is department need when all the smaller posts need the manpower. barneet needs to be investigated ( not by lemons psu either ) as to his threats to gilley, gonzales and others. apparently this tough guy? likes to get his other supervisors in the room also when he physically threatens the troops to impress them or for backup. i wonder if this is how he operated as a troop with suspects. looks like barnett's supervisory staff would be witnesses to his actions against the troops. is thid whst they call a hostile work environment?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 29, 2007 at 09:21 AM
Hey Shelia - You son was beaten but to hear it from the trooper "it was his fault". Trooper said that they have the right to defend themselves - guess your son must have really beat them since he was beaten. Did the two troopers come out with black eyes and bloody nose? I don't think so! Guess the troopers were just trying to defend themselves. I think a trooper can defend themselves without beating the heck out of someone. But then again we citizens maybe wrong. After all the troopers were there-we weren't. Yea - -
Posted by: Donna on Jul 29, 2007 at 05:51 AM
Since this tragedy occurred, I have been keeping up with the various postings written here and the petition signatures as well. So many people can't be wrong. Aaron Gonzales has now signed the petition requesting that everyone do what is right to help his family and the WVSP. Please stand behind this young man and support his family and the memory of his father by signing the petition. God bless you Aaron, your brothers and the rest of your family. Please know there are so many who care. Even though I don't know you, I sense what a caring young man you are. Both what you wrote on the petition and what Adam wrote here was so touching. I remember the smile upon his face each time I saw your father at church. He will be remembered by all as a fine man.
Posted by: WV TROOPER on Jul 29, 2007 at 04:29 AM
Now that you mention it,it is kind of funny to see grown men acting like 3rd graders trying to get picked for the basket ball team.John Wayne would roll over in the grave if he saw this mess.In seriousness,there's indeed a problem.Just like happened in TN a year or so ago about the entire leadership & their good ole boys were sent home for practically the same thing as we have here.But in reality, that isn't gonna happen in WV.Right is right & wrong is wrong.The good Captain has really done it this time.He & his little group of "Leaders" will forever have to live with this giult.They know what they did.What's done in the dark will eventually be brought to the light.They, along with the many others like them across the WVSP will one day answer for their hidden actions.In the mean time, they'll never break our spirit, because we're better than that.The Napoleon Complex isn't contagious "Leaders", but it is treatable with a good therapist.Maybe PEIA can refer these weasels to a good one..
Posted by: Trooper cont'd on Jul 29, 2007 at 01:33 AM
Once integrity is questioned you lose the confidence of your team.Productivity can be measured more effectively w/out quota's.That takes away from quality law enforcement work & brings"our"integrity into question because it's us at ground level who get called out to enforce the laws of WV & protect the citizens therein.I'm no scholor,but it doesn't take one to see that there's problem.PROBLEM: Lack of Full accountability of our leadership. SOLUTION: Evaluate/investigate & take action AS REQUIRED,even if it means replace the entire leadership.PROBLEM:LACK OF LEADERSHIP EDUACATION GIVEN TO LEADERS.SOLUTION:Educate them,when they're promoted/appointed they don't magically gain all the knowledge it takes to succeed.They're groomed instead to simply be a "yes-man" vice an effective leader & to treat the non-click members like garbage(like the transfer game).Our families to include our children suffer along with us & that's unacceptable.What's good for the goose is good for the gander.Right?
Posted by: trooper on Jul 29, 2007 at 01:23 AM
To those that are complaining about being beaten or wronged by troopers. Yes, there are bad troopers and other officers out there, but it is less than half of 1% of them!!! Everyone has their rotten eggs. And believe me, if a trooper is complained on and it's not a B.S. complaint (and even sometimes when it is) it gets investigated! And if the investigation didn't come out to your liking, guess what, you were wrong!! And yes, some of the troopers that get transfered for punishment did actually mess up in some way while trying to do their job. This is still no reason to move them away from their family!!! What good does that do, please tell me? Those of you that think we should speak up and give our names, you don't know how the game works. Easy for you to say when you don't wear a uniform. Hey Sheila, you are a pathetic. 99% of the time when a trooper has to hit someone, it's their own fault, plain and simple. Contrary to belief, we are allowed to defend ourselves when attacked!!!
Posted by: Trooper on Jul 29, 2007 at 12:46 AM
May God bless Cpl. Gonzoles' soul & richly bless & comfort his family.As for the WVSP administration.Our biggest advisary as Troopers isn't criminals,its truly the department.They're numerous supervisors that get fed a det. & are scared/ reluctant to make a decision in support of their men its unreal.They fear the way they'll be viewed/scowled at from the command.As for the "majority"(all aren't bad) of the command,wow.It's hilarious to see them scowering about trying to grease skids to get themselves in an appointed role.There's leadership principles such as Train your men as a team,Know your men & look out for their welfare,seek responsibility & take responsibility for your actions,SET THE EXAMPLE,know yourself & seek self improvement,etc.When those principles aren't practiced it creates an us against them attitude,& that can & will destroy an organization.When they're not implimented/taught to leaders,it brings one very important trait into question,& that's their INTEGRITY.cont'd
Posted by: Someone close to Gonzo on Jul 29, 2007 at 12:14 AM
You know you see all of these comments and interviews on this website but yet no real actions have been taken, it really shows what kind of government we have and how the "WVSP" work, i knew Marlo very well and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family but something needs to be done about those who pushed him to the limits. If in the next few weeks or months, there is nothing done then it is really obvious that the state and government needs to get rid of some of the state police(all of the names mentioned from other comments) and possibly vote out some of the polititions. By knowing Marlo he had told me that he wanted out of the state police but he had no way of providing for his family. If he wanted out that bad after 13 years then there is clearly some sort of threats that are now being hidden by a so called Captain BARNETTE. Who knows how he treated Corporal Marlo Gonzales. May peace be brought to the State Police!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2007 at 11:55 PM
The state should not be the ones to investigate this at all. The FBI should investigate the wrong doing of the department heads and so called supervisors. The state will just sweep this under the carpet. Noone will go on record, wait a minute, I believe a former trooper did go on record. Thats probably not good enough.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2007 at 11:21 PM
Sheila maybe all our guys in green should lay down their uniforms along with our great county and city police and let you protect your own hindend! You can't hold a whole department accountable for one man's actions. Why doesn't WSAZ step forward and say that all other troopers are subject to anonymous complaints why is it that Lemmon is the exception. Stories on the news such as this would help greatly. And there seems to be alot of stories here for them to use. I have seen them do stories about "allegations"before. Why is this any different?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2007 at 11:07 PM
Manchin was the only democratic governor invited to the debates. He obviously wants national attention. I say we grant his wish. We should ALL email CNN, MSNBC, AND FOX NEWS and give them this web site along with the fact that the great Manchin is involved.
Posted by: right on Jul 28, 2007 at 11:03 PM
i believe there has been enough info. put on this web site to have the governor's office look into cpl gonzale's situation to see why he was transferred and and if he was mistreated by the administration.
Posted by: Spiderman on Jul 28, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Governor!!!Two those with great power much is expected. Let the people know your doing something besides ging to weddings and fund raisers. Help the wearers of the green and start at the top. If you own them a favor give them something else but get them out of the SP.
Posted by: Response to "Anonymous" on Jul 28, 2007 at 10:49 PM
Response to the comment about the troopers "we the taxpayers are paying their salary." That is by far the most irritating comment that I have ever heard in my life. Do you not think that they pay taxes just the same as you? Their paychecks have so much taken out of them each month, but hey...you WOULDN'T know that would you? Think before you speak. About the trooper and the attorney thing from the Gazette...not ALL troopers are bad people. You have one that gets into some sort of trouble and then that makes you, the general public, look down upon the entire bunch. There are A LOT of good men AND women that make up the WV State Police. Sorry that your eyes are ONLY tuned to one thing. There is a bad egg in every bunch. So, STOP posting your comments and you won't get a backlash just like I did to your comment. Have a nice day.
Posted by: Stand up for the Troopers on Jul 28, 2007 at 10:49 PM
Just a reminder that signatures are still needed on the petition. As of right now, there are only 80 signatures, as opposed to 600 adds to this Blog. If everyone who has written into this Blog were to sign the petition, maybe,just maybe, good ole' Joe would listen. It can't hurt, it only takes a minute to add your name...it's worth a try. Show your support for these troopers, please! You wouldn't hesitate calling for them if you needed help, would you? They are the ones in need now. http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WVSP
Posted by: Hylton on Jul 28, 2007 at 09:35 PM
Lets see..is there anyone out there that has never worked for at least 1 place where the "Boss" didnt want everything their way and didnt have his "favorites"? You know the ones that got the good asignments or seemed to have less work or shorter hours for the same pay as ones that worked longer hours, the best vacation dates? Give me a break. All of these comments have made me sure of one thing..The respect I had for the troopers has faded to dissapointment.
Posted by: Troopers Wife on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:45 PM
I have been a troopers wife for 13 years. I can honestly say that I am so proud of my husband. I know that he walks a straight line while at work. His eyes have seen things that we all could not imagine. We are losing sight of the light at the end of the tunnel. Do some take their authority too far? Yes and they need to be dealt with. Is it a stressful job? Yes; Do I worry that he may not come home to our family? Yes everyday he puts on the green. We need to remember that the purpose should be to get these guys the support that they need to protect us. The last thing they need are thier superiors on their back hounding them to write more tickets. They honestly cannot give the time needed to criminal investigations because they have to meet a quota. If we want so many tickets written, maybe we need a separate Highway Patrol and then let the Troopers do the criminal work. But wait that would take extra money and they already have to fight for what they currently get.
Posted by: VOTER on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:40 PM
TO THE GOVERNOR, THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY, IT APPEARS TO BE GETTING DEEPER AND DEEPER. I HAVE GREAT ADMIRATION FOR MOST OF OUR WVSP OFFICERS. BUT IT IS TIME TO GET ALL THE ROTTEN EGGS OUT OF THE CRATE. THINK ABOUT IT.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2007 at 07:19 PM
Shelia Stone - I am so sorry to hear about what they did to you son. I am glad that you have what it takes to speak up against them. Few in this state will ever do that because they know that the "men in green" will get even. I was told that the troopers don't beat people. Well excuse me what about the lawyer that was just beaten up by a state trooper this week. Course as always I am sure that it will be the lawyers fault. It is a shame that they keep getting away with what they are doing. This is no way to protect the citizens of WV and even worse we the taxpayers are paying their salary. I am sure that there are "many" out there with stories such of yours. Please watch your back. How do you feel about their driving the cruisers to visit their parents who live many miles from where they are stationed? Again, guess who is paying for their gas? Yea, we citizens are. Don't know about you but I don't need their type of protection. I want to live a little longer.
Posted by: Sick of Politics on Jul 28, 2007 at 06:33 PM
I have been reading the comments on this site everyday. I am glad that some of you spoke out against the Gov. and his good ole boys. To Gilley and Tom Wagner, I applaud you for speaking out for the others who cannot. I hope that others will be inspired by your willingness to tell the truth and come forward. I can't believe the Gov. is not taking this more serious by saying you cannot be anonymous if you want change? I ask you Governor why is it that anonymous complaints about troopers always get investigated by the good ole boys? Yet, the Col. is allowed to run free with this administration? Ask the good Col. how is it that he allows troopers to be pushed so far that they break? Ask why you can't file a grievance because you will be looking for employment? Ask why the old man has no comment on camera? Oh, wait thats department policy, huh? Ask why have we heard so many times that the Col. is on his way out? Oh, "GOV" maybe he has some goods on you? Be a man not a typical politician!
Posted by: trooper on Jul 28, 2007 at 06:32 PM
God bless you Marlo, RIP. All of those mentioned should be investigated. Sgt. Elmore along with the others has always been a suck up. I've known him since college. Look into the real reason he had to leave the academy as a cadet. He never should have been allowed back in, Freedom of Information Act! All of these guys have the same thing in common. They will cut you down in a heart beat if it leads to there rise in power. And Barnett is the #1 egomaniac in that area!
Posted by: mother of trooper on Jul 28, 2007 at 06:26 PM
God bless you Gonzo and family. My son is a trooper. When Barnett's was a 1st/Sgt. he told my son that the WVSP comes before family. My son was in Barnett's office because he missed a DMV hearing when his then pregnate wife had to be rushed to the hospital due to unusual pain in her stomach. My son had even called DMV and let them know why he would not be there. Barnett said he had to recomend punishment for my son due to the missed DMV hearing no matter what the reason was. My son had to contact the Dept. of Labor to back him and won his fight!!! Barnett advised my son that he shouldn't air the dept.'s dirty laundry outside the dept. If my son had not, he surely would have been punished. From that day on, my son was hated (and probably still is) by Barnett. He was called to the carpet again by Barnett even after that, but finally escaped to another part of the state and is happy there. My son had proof of all this and it was recorded. If he would give his name though, he would be done.
Posted by: yetanotherwife on Jul 28, 2007 at 01:02 PM
And just to cover the comment on the former trooper living in TN, I find it absurd that anyone would question what is being done for a man that was shot in the head in the line of duty! But I will provide a little information as to why this is happening with that trooper. A large number of troopers that applied with the WVSP years ago were promised a certain pay and retirement plan (Retirement Plan A), they have the flyers advertising the benefits of being employed with WVSP, however once they were in the department they were put into Retirement Plan “B”. These guys have been fighting years to be given what is rightfully theirs and they have not yet been put into that plan. A lot of these guys moved to WV with their families and took the job as WV State Trooper because of what was offered to them and even as the State as failed to give them what is theirs, these men have stayed on the job. Gonzo was also one of the men that should have have had Plan "A".
Posted by: yetanotherwife on Jul 28, 2007 at 12:57 PM
I have seem some good troopers be forced to leave the department because they could not get a requested transfer for “family hardships” but at the same time the detachment administration is willing to move another troop as a form of discipline. I am aware of new troopers being put into a position and basically “forced” to agree to transfers because that is what the detachment administration wanted. Over the years some of these guys have had extreme stress and needed some time off but were afraid to let anyone know what was going on because the administration would view them as a “problem” and force them to resign. If you are going to look at the problems at HQ in Charleston just keep in mind that most of the “higher ups” in each detachment are all about pleasing HQ and guilty of putting the same pressure on their road troops.
Posted by: yetanotherwife on Jul 28, 2007 at 12:55 PM
I have been married to a trooper for over 10 years and I am very proud of him and all the guys that he has worked with during his career! I can tell you that what I have read of the allegations that have been made on this site and they are fairly accurate. I would like to know why it is that the administration is being called out for “conduct unbecoming” and everyone wants a name to put with the complaint yet the State Police website allows for anonymous complaints. A few years back an anonymous complaint was lodged against a trooper, it was investigated and he is no longer with the department. If a trooper speaks out they do have to “FEAR” some type of retaliation. It can be something small like being written up for their active numbers or to the extreme of being transferred to another location.
Posted by: Sonya on Jul 28, 2007 at 11:58 AM
response to Anoymous: I agree with you. There is something badly wrong when an officer has many serious lawsuits agains him for brutality, etc. and still be made a Trooper of the Year. That same trooper is now Sergeant in Central WV.
Posted by: Tom on Jul 28, 2007 at 10:48 AM
I am not being anonymous, my name is Thomas Wagner and I was recently fired after 18 1/2 years with the State Police. I will gladly speak with Governor Manchin. Especially of how the State Police Internal Affairs picks and chooses which complaints they will investigate. An example is; I made a complaint against a supervisor for ordering his subordinates to falsify monthly paperwork, it was never looked into. The good ol' boy system in the State Police is as strong as ever.
Posted by: X-Civilian on Jul 28, 2007 at 10:20 AM
First and formost my thoughts and prayers go out to the Gonzales family. I was a civilian employee for the WVSP for many years until I was all but forced to quit. Once you stand up to your superiors and get on there bad side, forget it, you've made it so hard for yourself, you might as well quit or go crazy. It's all about tickets and DUI's, they have very little time to do criminal work, because there to worried about the numbers, gotta make the BRASS look good. The more tickets you get the more money the magistrates office receives. The job of a State Trooper or Civilian is so stressful its unreal, then you have the Superiors breathing down your neck, and if you don't do what they want well your outta there sent to some little hicktown in the middle of no where. No they don't care about your life or your family outside the SP. And to file a grievence or a complaint, come on guys, it was always the GREEN wins. You can't go up against politics, if your not in the click forget it.
Posted by: Bubba on Jul 28, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Sounds like the WVSP has a real "LEMON" for a Colonel. That would mean his administrative officers are "LEMON-AIDES". Gov. Manchin needs to sweeten things up within the DPS.
Posted by: Becky on Jul 28, 2007 at 09:31 AM
I for one know that it isn't just in the St Police ,where people are threathened, belittled and down graded by Our Great Supervisors. It happens in all agencies and of course it is swept under the rug. If you are in the fovorites group you are belitled ,screamed at ,threatened with getting choked, killed or breaking of your bones, told you are stupid you need to find another job, file a complaint or a grievence and your life is a living nightmare, you get to the point you hate to go to work,some people can get away with stealing, Do they get punished? No they get a pay raise and a nice cushy job. The superiors take up a collection and pay for your stealing and then its swept under the rug. No you can't come forward with your name we all know we would be fired and blackballed for the rest of our lives.The Govenor is just trying to cover his own behindd, He has the power to stop this in every agency but he won't. As far as I am concerned he needs to resign and take his crooks with him
Posted by: Shelia Stone on Jul 28, 2007 at 09:19 AM
There are so many here in Mason,W.Columbia,Point Pleasant,New Haven,that have felt the Rath of the State troopers here in Mason County!The talk about "Not giving A name" to some comments ,,,well,live here for awhile and see why no names are posted.We are Targets for sure!In my situation I want it Known how I had to rush my son to the ER from the "Interview"he had with 2 Troopers here in Mason,Co.They know who I am talking about. These Troopers even went so far as to go to Court,Place their hand on the Bible and swore before GOD and the JUDGE that my son did not have a hand placed on him!I relive this memorey every night when I try to sleep.Trust me it wasn't a very pretty sight to see.Now you tell me WE as Citizens are ask to look up to these type of "whatever" I have NO respect for these 2 Troopers and each time I go out on the Highway I shiver when 1 of them pass me.They have gone too far by letting the Badge and Gun make them Judge,Jury,and exacutioners!This has gone on too LONG!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:58 AM
Hey Lemmon - Weed them out!
Posted by: Psychology & Ethics Student Continued on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:37 AM
http://www.geocities.com/~halbrown/police_suicide.html, stated this "There's one form of suicide that can be remedied without a police stress therapist or counselor, and that's suicide caused by insensitive police administration. If chiefs and command officers paid more attention to morale, and were alert to signs of distress in the ranks, there would be less police officer depression. In instances when officers feel betrayed or abandoned by their bosses and hung out to dry, for whatever reason, it is common first for anger to emerge, but depression usually lurks just below the surface. Outrage and resentment, often justified, can mask the underlying depression." and a quote from this site http://www.giftfromwithin.org/html/policesd.html stated this " While seeking to place blame on others is a natural response, it's not helpful in the long run." And another resource is http://www.tearsofacop.com/police/stop.html my hope is that some of you reading these comments will go to the sites
Posted by: Psychology & Ethics Student on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:25 AM
We've been discussing this issue in my 2 summer classes. I just wanted to provide some facts & info on resources for help because no one else has yet. 1- With all the turmoil, the chances of another officer committing suicide have nearly doubled. 2- The # of deaths for Police Officers by Suicide is 2-3 times greater then in the line of duty deaths There is a Suicide Survivors Support Group in Huntington at St. Mary's Hospital, the Contact Person: Laddonia Blevins (304) 526-6014 or you can call 1-800-273-TALK Another resource is on the internet http://www.psf.org/ or call 866-276-4615 This site also provided some info on top reasons or steps as the called them as to why an officer commits suicide. One of them was the following: "Doesn't trust administration - Deals with internal stressors and political pressures." ran out of room, will post another and hope both get published.
Posted by: WONDERING on Jul 28, 2007 at 12:06 AM
I WONDER IF COLONEL LEMMON AND LITTLE DAVE KNOW THAT THEIR NUMBER 2 GUY LTC TUCKER HAS BEEN HAVING LATE NIGHT SECRET MEETINGS WITH SECRETARY SPEARS. COULD THIS BE THE RAT LEAVING THE SINKING SHIP. HE ALWAYS TRIES TO SET HIMSELF UP TO SURVIVE THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION. HOPEFULLY FOR THE SAKE OF THE STATE POLICE HE WILL FINALLY GET THE AXE.
Posted by: Trooper on Jul 27, 2007 at 11:12 PM
According to legislative rule any and all complaints lodged against a member of the WVSP are to be investigated. No matter what the complaint is or how it was received i.e. anonymous. However who is going to investigate the complaint? Someone hand picked by Colonel D. L. Lemmon or his son the mighty First Lieutenant D. L. Lemmon, II. To anyone with integrity this really is a matter of right and wrong but to the people that are making decisions it is about politics and the only way the Lemmons will pay for their transgressions against many will be for the public to not allow this issue to go away. Call WVSP HQ at (304) 746-2100 and lodge your complaint and call 1st/Lt D. L. Lemmon, II at (304) 766-2880 to get his opinion on this matter or maybe he has an attorney by now because he probably should have one.
Posted by: Derrick on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:23 PM
the administration is the problem w/these officers, state, city or co. officers. Their superiors come down on them when it's already a stressful job and thats why we see officers being so "firm" w/us the citizens, it's not their fault, they work around constant worry and anger. And as for this article, nothing will be done, a few weeks from now this whole entire thing will be forgotten and we'll go back to the way things were before... and i agree w/almost every single previous comment that i have read... sounds like a total restructoring needs to be done.... but we'll never see it, betcha i get a ticket in the next few weeks LMAO
Posted by: Just a thought... on Jul 27, 2007 at 09:56 PM
If Lemmon is kept as Colonel you may as well turn the WV State Police into the "Highway Patrol" -- all he is looking for is numbers/tickets, not criminal investigation.
Posted by: Code on Jul 27, 2007 at 08:55 PM
Troopers have the ability to do things other departments can't. Like walk into a bar fight alone and it stops. It stops because troops long ago didn't walk away from any fight and we can't start now. before I retired I never hd a problem if someone wanted to fight. Liberals have never swayed the way I do my police work. If you want to fight then we'll fight until someone wins. You'd be surprised how many of these cowards expect you to try and handcuff them without hurting them while they pound on you. When you fight back, after the shock wears off they usually crawl into a corner and give up. Hey, you have the right to resist arrest and I have the right to defend myself. I've NEVER hit a handcuffed prisoner, only because i don't want them to have an excuse.So it may not be just someone getting beat up by the state police. It might be some crud resisting arrest getting their head space and timing adjusted.
Posted by: Saddened on Jul 27, 2007 at 08:07 PM
I am saddened for the family of Trooper Gonzales, saddened that he had reached a point in his life where he felt totally overwhelmed, saddened that this will all be swept under the carpet by Governor Manchin. How many voices does it take to merit investigation into the WVSP..anonymous or not? This sort of thing takes place within every department within WV State Government...the coverups, the don't make waves. We all walk on eggshells in the fear of losing our jobs if we question the higher ups (civil service empolyee or not). Joe Manchin is a disgrace to this state. I didn't vote for him, so I have the right to speak out against him. From day one, he certainly has not had the best interests for the people of WV at heart. I pray people of this state see what is taking place and that the next election reflects their insight. God bless the Gonzales family, the WV State Troopers. Citizens of WV stand up for what you believe, don't just make comments amongst yourselves, speak out!
Posted by: old friend on Jul 27, 2007 at 07:35 PM
I went to high school with Marlo. I was very sad to hear of his passing. I remember him as having a wonderful sense of humor and always being the fun guy. My heart goes out to his family and friends. I really hope that his children are not reading all this and developing that same anger that Marlo apparently had developed toward the WVSP. It is obvious that something must be done to turn the tide of feelings. No leader should have as many negatives as Lemmon does. If one wants a good example of lack of leadership just look to county where Marlo grew up. Every time you turn around another police officer or state worker is being let off on some kind of charges. It is obvious that the leadership of the WVSP is not what it used to be, otherwise people would not feel as they do in Calhoun County about the police. It is a pity. Marlo made Calhoun County proud by rising above and doing something that made him proud. We'll miss you, Marlo. To his kids, hang in there!!
Posted by: Concerned on Jul 27, 2007 at 07:03 PM
I understand that there was a letter sent to Govenor Manchin's staff detailing problems within the current administration and how they were treating their people. Where is that letter and what was done with it?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 27, 2007 at 06:46 PM
Jason, way to go. Thank you for taking a stand and maybe some will follow your lead soon. We need to do something quickly, guys.
Posted by: Daniel on Jul 27, 2007 at 06:44 PM
Being afraid to speak out is not just with the WVSP. My wife is a police officer in Pennsylvania and it is the same here. Speak out against a superior and watch how fast you are transferred. Or speak out against a rogue cop and see how long it takes your backup to arrive when you need help. Police officers should never have to be afraid to speak out against injustice! I am former West Virginia Born and Raised.
Posted by: >-< on Jul 27, 2007 at 05:29 PM
Don't confuse an administrator with a leader. A given position does not come with the ability to lead men. Being able to convince a subordinate to do something because they want to, not because you said so, is a quality not handed out with a promotion, because the inability to lead will eventually show itself (as we can clearly see now). Just because I stand in a garage does not make me a car.
Posted by: hurricane domino's on Jul 27, 2007 at 05:22 PM
we are doing a fund raiser for angel so please come out on 8/10/07 and help us help her!!!!
Posted by: Realist on Jul 27, 2007 at 05:01 PM
To all of the whiners out there complaining about the possible “back lash” that they could face if they were to present any REAL evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the administration. There are laws that are in place to protect you, they are known as “Whistle Blower” laws. Quit complaining and do something!
Posted by: Concerned Citizen on Jul 27, 2007 at 04:44 PM
To Gonzo's family my thoughts and prayers continue to be with you. Gonzo was a great man who deserved to be respected. I find it hard to believe that the complaints are not validated. Do you honestly think that the Brass is going to leave a paper trail that says transferred due to being on the hated list. Start out investigating by speaking with people, allowing them to remain anonymous and asking them their story. Take the time to speak with all the Troopers in South Charleston, Clay and other places that have been mentioned. Talk to all the troops who have quit or been fired recently. Care about their stories. These troopers have families to think about and now they are being told if they remain anonymous nothing can be done. Well ask for the stories and trace back the facts. Find out when they were temp transferred for manpower needs, then look at how many times they received EPA's etc. Check EPA's for low activity and look at the numbers. Gonzo forever missed.
Posted by: anothertrooperswife on Jul 27, 2007 at 03:37 PM
I was so proud of my husband on the day of his graduation from the academy. He looked so happy and relieved to have finally achieved one of his lifelong goals. I remember hearing the colonel speak of the "state police family".How we (spouses and children) were the most important part of the job...etc. I have since found out that the "family" doesn't exist. Troopers aren't supposed to have a family-or a life-other than the one they have at work. They aren't allowed to be sick, hurt, or in need of a break. Even when they aren't working, they're to be working.They are never told by the supervisors when they do a good job, but if they happen to make a mistake-they hear about it immediately. This stress and mistreatment at work spills over into our homelife and has made for some very difficult times in our marriage. I hope that Gonzo's family can find some healing and peace. Know that you are not alone, the REAL state police family (wives and kids) are here with you. God Bless.
Posted by: Albert M Gilley III - Father on Jul 27, 2007 at 03:30 PM
Col. Hill , Capt. Barnette - I am the Father of Trooper Kris Gilley & Former Trooper Jason Gilley , with Jason speaking out against the WVSP I would hope that you don't retaliate against Kris for his brothers actions. I am very proud of Jason for what he is doing and has done to help all of the WVSP Troopers . Kris I am also very proud of you for standing up for your brother and being an upstanding and dedicated trooper.I also am very proud of your wives Sherri & Lauren for standing beside you two with all the stress and pressure that has been put on you and your children. I love you all and will be here for support when you need it.Dad
Posted by: SomethingStinks on Jul 27, 2007 at 03:12 PM
Man, this situtation is a mess. I never thought one toliet could be backed up so bad with this much stinch. Sounds like all of the WVSP needs to have a COME TO JESUS MEETING, WORK FAST JOE YOUR NOT GOING TO HELP HILLERY WITH THIS MESS HANGING OVER YOUR HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 27, 2007 at 03:05 PM
I lodged a complaint against a state trooper several years ago. The investigating officer was the same trooper that the complaint was lodged against. The result came back as "No wrong doings". One can lodge all the complaints that they want - but chances are it will come back as "no wrong doings". But then again state troopers are above the law.
Posted by: Just looking on Jul 27, 2007 at 01:59 PM
What a bunch of crap! Needing a name to go with the complaint. Why? So they can fire another good Trooper. For the record, I am not a Trooper. I am in law enforcement so I have a decent working knowledge about the system. The governor needs to look into this ASAP before the state loses more good employees. Our Troopers are underpaid and constantly ridden to write more tickets. The emphasis should be on quality of work, not quantity. In Huntington, there was a quadruple homicide a couple of years back. Troopers from all over the state came to town and answered calls with HPD and the Cabell County Sheriff's Department and showed enthusiasm, professionalism and a won't quit attitude that really helped the local guys out in a trying time. It sounds like Col. Lemmon needs to be removed and replaced with someone who understands MODERN law enforcement. PRAYERS OUT TO THE GONZALES FAMILY AND TROOPERS EVERYWHERE.
Posted by: another tried troop on Jul 27, 2007 at 01:52 PM
when a anonymous complaint is filed against a troop it is investigated no questions asked . when 500 complaints are filed aginst the senoir staff it is blowed off because it is done anonymous so you dont't loose your job.where is the justice in this or any honor found.
Posted by: A FRIEND on Jul 27, 2007 at 01:12 PM
TO "HOPE FOR THEM" It seems that, after reading so many negative comments thrown at the Lemmon Family, this is INDEED the place to defend their family. If it were YOUR family, that was being mercilessly slandered,would you not defend them ? I KNOW I WOULD !
Posted by: Trooper on Jul 27, 2007 at 11:50 AM
1st/Lt D. L. Lemmon,II has always been concerned about how he is perceived by what the media is reporting as well as what info. is being discovered by Tpr.s who are investigators. When the WVSP are not involved in an investigation 1st/Lt Lemmon directs Tpr.s to go as far as obstruct justice in an effort to obtain info. about other agencies cases. He has a three fold motive with this approach. Plausible deniability by having others carry out the info. gathering, keeping one step ahead of the media in order to make sure his message is seen and heard before others regardless if he should be involved or not and last but not least he must maintain a vigilant watch over the info. that flows because from time to time he will need to divert the investigation to protect himself and members of his political gang. 1st/Lt. Lemmon became a Tpr. for one reason and that was to use the Silver & Green as a political vehicle. Cpl. Gonzales found out what it was like to get in the way of Lt. Lemmon.
Posted by: brian on Jul 27, 2007 at 11:12 AM
I was stopped by Trooper Gonzalez a few days before he killed himself. He issued me a speeding ticket. He was very nice as he issued the citation. He also told me to be very careful because his department was riding them very hard to write tickets. Again this was just like 10 days before the incident. Someone from WSAZ should inquire about the number of citations being issued across the state and compare them to an earlier period. I do believe it maybe a little out of hand. The trooper also stated that they want them to issue keeper tickets and not warnings.
Posted by: Jared on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:55 AM
Arron and Adam dudes my prayers are with ya, hang in there and dont get lost in the shuffle man.
Posted by: Craig on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:37 AM
The news as well as Gov. Manchin has made it clear that unless people come forward and put a name to the complaint then all this keyboard boxing means nothing. One trooper can't do it alone. Cmon guys put a name on it an gitr done.
Posted by: family of Trooper Gonzales on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:29 AM
God Bless the WVSP and thank you for your site for comment we would like to thank all. and the site well be closeing.family of Trooper Gonzales
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:25 AM
Governor with all due respect, how can one come forward with the risk of losing a much needed job. It's easier said than done. You are asking men and women to put their jobs on the line. Stand up for the state that has elected you sir and DO something the higer ups at South Charleston HQ. Make a change in administration at HQ, it can only be good for the Department.
Posted by: perry on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:20 AM
thats what happens when you owe the wrong people. its always for the best.
Posted by: anonymous on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:15 AM
I am just wondering if there was over 500 comments or complaints, ANONYMOUSLY, relayed to State Police about a trooper or group of troopers negative actions, would that be investigated. I think I know the answer. YES IT WOULD. If you look on the WVSP website they are asking for anonymous tips, and I know first hand they look into them. One other thing, if Manchin wants evidence or facts, why not look into the current law suits against the admin. in the WVSP. I know there are several pending that will more than prove everyones allegations against Lemmon and his F.O.L.D.
Posted by: FORMER OFFICER on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:14 AM
GREEN, BROWN, BLACK, GREY, OR BLUE, WE ARE ALL THE SAME. HUMAN RIGHTS SOMEONE SAID? As Mr Manchin was approached with my human rights complaint, like I said he turned a deaf ear while it was not investigated properly and as always comes back no fault. Speak out? You can't, you will be retaliated against and only us that work/worked in the law enforcement know this. PROVE IT? Hey, I have stacks of files, a journal I kept and it did me no good at the time with the state. They all turn a deaf ear, lie, or turn it back on you, it's a no end road. No wonder attorneys have so many lawsuits against the state. Ever check into that Mr Manchin? Officers injured, disabled, scared, and trying to raise a family. Things have to change and you could start by addressing some of the complaints u was given the year you took office!!
Posted by: messengershub on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:13 AM
i well take the stand the wva s.pand if there is a post that is not getting on this site you can post it at messengershub@yahoo.com
Posted by: CONCERNED MOM on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:11 AM
YES, CLIQUES ARE IN EVERY WORKPLACE BUT IN THE WVSP THEY ARE TAKEN TO A NEW LEVEL. THEY HOLD SWAY OVER WHERE YOU LIVE AND ARE STATIOINED AND ARE USED FOR PUNITIVE PURPOSES. LIFE IS DANGEROUS ENOUGH FOR OUR TROOPERS, WE DONT NEED SUPERIORS JERKING THEM AROUND AND ADDING TO THEIR STRESS LEVELS. I WOULDNT WANT TO LIVE MY LIFE EVERYDAY THINKING THAT IT MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME I WOULD SEE MY FAMILY AND THEN HAVE SOME POLICE BRASS WHO SITS ON HIS BUTT IN AN OFFICE IN SO.CHARLESTON SENDING ME TO ANOTHER COUNTY AWAY FROM THEM JUST BECAUSE HE CAN. SOME MEN CANNOT HANDLE BEING THE BOSS AND GOING UP IN RANK CERTAINLY DOES NOT GUARANTEE HAVING WHAT IT TAKES TO LEAD AN ORGANIZATION. TO GOV. MANCHIN: AS TO BEING ANONYMOUS WITH COMMENTS, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT? THINK ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE TO SOMEONE WHO STEPS FORWARD, THEY HAVE FAMILIES, OWN HOMES, THEIR CAREERS ARE ON THE LINE! GET REAL!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 27, 2007 at 10:10 AM
So another citizen beaten by a WV State Trooper. No it couldn't have been one of the guys that wear green! Well - - -
Posted by: JENNY on Jul 27, 2007 at 09:54 AM
WHY WAS MY COMMENT NOT POSTED YESTERDAY? TOO MUCH TRUTH OR JUST TOO MUCH WRITTEN ANGER? SEND IT BAKCK TO ME AND I WILL EDIT IT AND SEND IT AGAIN
Posted by: Me on Jul 27, 2007 at 07:55 AM
Well, Tiger, speaking from experience, it is hard to stand up and do what is "right" when you have family to support and kids to feed. Unemployment won't treat you kindly when Lemmon decides you've crossed him wrong by trying to bring up those problems. Why should they take a chance of losing their jobs, no one believes them anyway.
Posted by: Lisa on Jul 27, 2007 at 07:03 AM
First of all, i think the state needs to hire an outside agency to be at each detachment several times per week to speak to the trooper if need be for counseling. I am not a wife of a trooper, i am just a citizen. Does it not bother the troopers to see someone killed in a car accident? see children die? Find a dead body that has been there in the heat for several days? go and investigate children rapes/crimes, COME ON, they cant be that tough for it not to bother them. They do need help with the things they see on a daily bssis nearly. What are we going to do? get rid of our State police, WOW what a world that would be, Then everyone would be really GRIPING. Yes theres problems in the SP just like anywhere else, but its the bad things we hear about. We seldom here about the good things they do, saving a life, getting drug dealers off the street, a drunk off the road, etc. Just like anything/anywhere, theres good and bad everywhere. Ive met alot of wonderful troopers dedicated to their job, then ive met some real ***&&^'s, but the majority of them are here to help us. The state does need to weed the bad ones out, I do agree with that. BUT to the other ones out there doing their job, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROTECTION, WE NEED YOU!!!
Posted by: another coward on Jul 27, 2007 at 06:14 AM
Let's get real, make WV proud of you Governor, do what's right!! Get rid of Lemmon and his appointees and you will rise to the top again like you did when the coal miners were killed! You know these men can't come forth with their names! It's their careers on the line! As for Tiger, go apply for the WV. State Police you wouldn't make it past the lst day testing!!!
Posted by: Response to comment made by "Jeff" on Jul 27, 2007 at 03:40 AM
The way you throw off on Putnam County troopers is ridiculous! What Trooper from Putnam County arrested you and why are you so down on them? Only a criminal would post a comment like that. You are pitiful! Boo!
Posted by: Response to south chalreston trooper on Jul 27, 2007 at 03:36 AM
You must be one of the sgt's there because one of the troopers from so. chas. wouldn't post such comments. They are a great bunch of troopers and you probably started out the same, but became one of the CLICK, F.O.L.D., "Good 'Ol Boys". Sad to see that you even have to threaten WSAZ with the "YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE" -- they probably didn't post your facts because you were probably told what to email by Barnette or whoever it is that you take your orders from.
Posted by: For Tiger on Jul 27, 2007 at 02:33 AM
Do you ever leave the house? This is the real world. These people can do whatever they want and justify it by using the old standby " to meet the needs of the department" Every detachment is shorthanded so they could use the standby and transfer you 100 miles south and Pres. Bush couldn't help you. Get real, There are so many things they can do to you and justify it. Things that you would think were petty until they do them to you. How about changing your days off, your schedule, giving you a patrol car with 150,000 miles on it, picking others for good schools and you for crappy details like Bridge Day Duty or WVU football games where we have to make sure idiots like you don't hurt themselves, or cut your overtime, there's a million things they can do that Manchin could care less about. We happen to be one of them.
Posted by: Tiger on Jul 27, 2007 at 12:54 AM
For OUTRAGED: Why attack my character for asking a simple question? I'm just a law abiding citizen who sees a bunch of spineless and nameless people taking advantage of the death of this poor man to further a political agenda and personal grudge against the top of the WVSP. I have no faith in Troopers who don't have the 'guts' to stand up and do what is 'right' by coming out and making complaints against the administration. If they don't have the 'guts' to do that, then they don't have the 'guts' to do the dangerous job of protecting and serving our community. Manchin has publicly said noone will be disciplined if the come out and make their complaints and take credit for these complaints by putting their name to them. Use manchin's public decree, and if you are treated wrong by the WVSP, then come to WSAZ and report it. They will surely report it and put more pressure on manchin and the WVSP.
Posted by: To WSAZ on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:42 PM
For God's sake, PLEASE STOP THIS. THIS IS GETTING SERIOUSLY OUT OF CONTROL. Are you people really reading these things? This is in no way helping the family or anyone else deal with this. If you want the posts, send them to an investigative reporter but please stop posting them for the public. It's making you as well as those who use the death of a local hero to vent, stupid and insensitive. ENOUGH ALREADY!
Posted by: Funny on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:36 PM
I can't imagine the self restraint it must have taken for Gilley not to take Barnett up on his offer of a busted nose. Even though, cox, Marcum, and Elmore were there. You could put them all together, give them each a bloody knife and a pit bull with aids and they'd be about as scary as Spongebob Squarepants......!
Posted by: Jeff on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Putnam county troopers have always been a joke. Threaten,harass,intimidate,falsify evidence,give false testimony under oath in a court of law all the while being supported by their superiors and the crooked courts! Why don't you do a real story about what has been happening for years!! Shame on West Virginias so called finest !! NOTHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:57 PM
after reading all this makes me wonder did he really kill himself?
Posted by: comment made by south charleston trooper on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:48 PM
you must have not been there long because the word is spelled C H A R L E S T O N. who are you working for now. THE BRASS.
Posted by: WV resident on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:32 PM
Ruth Lemmon's name has been mentioned so much you'd think she was first lady. She must think she is. Gail where are you??? Step in and do something.
Posted by: Charleston resident on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:30 PM
While we're on the subject of Manchin's inability to do his job, what about the story of him not wanting police around where his friend were leaving a party after drinking. Manchin actually called the trooper who issued a citation and told her to take it back. These people may have a little more money than most of us reading this blog, but they are no better than we are. Would Manchin do the same for you?? No, and he shouldn't do it for them either. Its time for him to go.
Posted by: Half unit on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Someone asked why didn't the FBI investigate? Because this is southern WV, and they, for the most part are no different from Lemmon, Barnett, Tucker and Cox. Their goal is advancement, not necessarily by hard work, but by taking credit for someone else's efforts.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:09 PM
I THANK THAT THE STATE TROOPERS DO A GREAT JOB KEEPING CRIME DOWN THEY HAVE MORE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE A LOT ON THEIR MIND WHEN THEY LEAVE FOR WORK AND PUTTING THIER LIVES ON THE LINE EVERYDAY .YES I WILL STAND BEHIND THEM
Posted by: Trooper on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:00 PM
If the Association isnt going to help...what good are they? I have been a member for years and havent seen anything they have done. Merrill was a joke and a pawn...he thought he was going to get promoted but was only used. What would happen if everyone dropped out. The money you would save in dues would be more than that $1000 scholarship they offer. Im dropping out tomorrow.
Posted by: Robert on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:57 PM
God Bless the WVSP.
Posted by: Hey WVTA on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:49 PM
If the Association isn't going to help then what good are they? I've been a member for years and haven't seen a thing they have done. Merrill was a joke...he thought he was going to get promoted...but he was only used. What if everyone dropped out of the association. Dont sell yourself out for a mere $1000 scholarship...its not worth it. Im dropping out tomorrow.
Posted by: Jenny on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:39 PM
Way To Go Jason Im Proud Of Ya Tell Our Lil Cutie His Van.Coke Will Be Ready Next Time
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:29 PM
God Bless all men and women who wear any color uniform stand proud together as Gonzo would want you to.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:26 PM
State Troopers do not out rank C.O.'s they just get paid more and have more man power than C.O.'s , they have state wide jurisdiction as do troops so watch out for " The Brown" because you can get the same ticket from them as "The Green"!!!
Posted by: Terry J. on Jul 26, 2007 at 08:32 PM
On Friday the 13th of this month, Col. Lemmon fired an 18 year veteran of the State Police. Sgt. Wagner was a good trooper and he took care of the people that worked for him. He was a great investigator and he was a pillar in the community that he worked in. He was admired by those that worked for him but hated by those that he worked for. Col. Lemmon transferred him several times to Detachmetns which were far from his home as punishment. When I heard a trooper had killed himself, I thought it was Sgt Wagner because he had been pushed to the limit by this admistration. Sgt. Wagner was a year and a half away from retirement when he was fired two weeks ago. Sgt. Wagner was a combat veteran having served in Desert Storm. I am sorry it took Gonzo killing himself to bring out the truth about this administration. The top brass of the State Police think they are Gods and can affect troopers lives with no regard for them or their families. Rest in piece Gonzo and keep your chin up Sgt. Wagner.
Posted by: nursebeth on Jul 26, 2007 at 08:05 PM
The troopers can NOT respond with a formal complaint. They have been told that they may grieve a situation, but it will be from the unemployment line....Gov. Manchin do you know that??? Are you leading an investigation into those comments? Troopers association...please come through for your troops.
Posted by: concerned on Jul 26, 2007 at 07:51 PM
WOW you have 13 yr vet of WVSP being moved from county to county, WHY? Why not the rookie or less senior trooper. Seems maybe all the allegations of he was targeted by the admin may have some merit. People can be driven to do things that are not normal with enough pressure put on them. As far as the Gov saying come forward, thats pure crazy they would be gone real soon
Posted by: Outraged on Jul 26, 2007 at 07:16 PM
HEY TIGER, I have been reading your lame comments.I hate to break it you but these troopers will be punished if they come forward. You have no idea? So, what is hilarious is that you would say something so ignorant. People like you are not hard to figure out. Either, You are another Mike pretending to be someone you are not? You have been arrested one too many times? Or maybe, your just tired of sitting in your pajamas and eating junk food surfing the web. Tiger your roar is not only annoying but so lame! Thanks for coming forward Jason Gilley we are all proud of you.
Posted by: Former Trooper on Jul 26, 2007 at 06:28 PM
First of all, let me express my condolences to Cpl. Gonzalez's family. The comments I'm about to make should not be construed to blame Colonel Lemon, nor any person in the State Police, for the unfortunate death of Cpl. Gonzalez......that issue is presently being investigated. I will say however that the appointment of Dave Lemon as Superintendent of the State Police was a very bad choice. Lemon has neither the intellect, the professionalism, nor the temperament to hold that position. Governor Manchin surely made that appointment as a political payback, I know of no other rationale to explain it. I call on Secretary Spears to immediately look into the sorry management of the West Virginia State Police and take immediate action to correct it. One of West Virginia's most admired agencies is quickly sliding down hill and the people of West Virginia are the big losers here.
Posted by: Beth Centeno on Jul 26, 2007 at 06:13 PM
As a wife of a WV State Trooper I would first all like to extend my deepest thoughts and prayers to the Gonzales family. Angel, Adam, Aaron and Jacob always hold your heads up high just like Marlo did and remember he left his print on this world. It up to you now to finish the picture. As for my State Police family just remember to always wear your uniform with honor and pride and continue the tradition the respect and admiration that comes with your title as a WV State Trooper. Your green uniforms are a highly visible symbol representing 88 years of prestige and greatness.I want to thank each of you for your loyalty, bravery and integrity as you protect me and the citizens of our State. Just remember YOU ARE YOUR BROTHERS KEEPER UNTIL HE IS 10-7 10-42. I know as a half unit We are one family who make sacrifices everyday. You are the pride of our state but remember you are looked upon to lead the way and set the example. God Bless Each of You!
Posted by: old friend from high school on Jul 26, 2007 at 06:00 PM
Marlo was a great person to be with anytime back in school who was a dear friend and never new a stranger. I spent many weekends at his house and new his family well. I was in total shambles like everyone else when i heard the news and spent the evening calling old class mates to make sure they heard as well. May God bless his family and friends. It took the WVSP to bring my friend down, but he was standing on the right side of the fence! In fairness, I ask everyone to keep pushing behind this until we get answers and results because I have many friends who serve our state as a WVSP and I expect our state to serve them as well for I refuse to loose another friend in such a tragedy.
Posted by: sour about the Lemmons on Jul 26, 2007 at 05:52 PM
First of all thank you Gilley for coming clean and telling the truth. Gov. just what did you promise Angel yesterday? I could not believe that Col. Lemmon and Spears had the audacity to go to Marlos home today to apologize to Angel. IT IS A LITTLE TO LATE FOR THAT ISNT BOYS. I think everyone of the half units, troopers and their families need to take a stand and remember this come Jan. 2008 when our Gov. goes to seek re-election. We all need to stand together with a blind eye and deaf ear just like our Husbands and Wives have been treated with this administration. Maybe someone should talk to a certain troopers wife in the southern part of the state about how little Dave called her house on her husbands CDO day to chew him out because the WV State Police was not given enough credit for a drug bust. My understanding SHE has kept a journal. It just might be interesting reading for our legislature and a NAACP attorney and esp. Ivan Lees from the Human Rights Com.
Posted by: Tonya on Jul 26, 2007 at 05:36 PM
It's sad that a trooper or any law enforcement doesn't have the help that they need weither it be physical, mental or etc. I believe that they ought to be able to seek whatever kind of help that they need. And that it should be up to the department to make sure each and every one of their officers is in good mental standings considering the mental stress that they go through each and every day to make our lives safer as they can. My thoughts and prayers goes out to the family of Trooper Gonzales. It's a tragic that this had to happen.
Posted by: south chalreston trooper on Jul 26, 2007 at 05:33 PM
Well WSAZ, why don't you print the real information I sent to you twice today about Jason Gilley. I gave you factual, verifiable information and you fail to print it. You don't seem to have a problem printing all the other stuff on the blog that is completely false. I guess its just about the ratings for you now. I think I need to call WCHS or WOWK and give them the full story with facts that can be proven. You had your chance.
Posted by: Confused on Jul 26, 2007 at 05:02 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to the Gonzales family. I'm very sorry for your lose. I am an ordinary citizen with no connection to police and only found this site because of the TV broadcast. I'm really confused about something and hope someone can clear up the confusion for me. I have read the comments about this trooper that he was being disciplined for something apparently that happened in Clay county. I at first thought how awful that the family has only been in Putnam county for three weeks and probably knew no one and were truly alone with this terrible tragedy. But the further I read in the comments, it sounds as though the kids have been students at their schools for quite some time and the news article talked about the incident happening at the father-in-laws. Please someone clarify how it was a discipline problem to be brought closer to your home to work. I'm not being critical, I truly am confused. I have the utmost respect for all law enforcement. I'm lucky to never have needed one or been in trouble with them but I do feel they would be there if I needed one and that is a comforting thought. Again, I mean no disrespect to anyone. I'm just confused. God Bless the family and our police forces.
Posted by: FORMER OFFICER on Jul 26, 2007 at 03:58 PM
WE HAVE CAME FORWARD AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE, IN FACT WE ARE NOT ANONYMOUS. We are just speaking what we have done before, now a death of one of our states finest has brought it to this level and also Gilley for speaking out because he also had to resign. THANK YOU WSAZ FOR LETTING US PUT OUR STATEMENTS IN WRITING ONCE AGAIN. AND AS FOR "NOBODY", HA HA, WHAT R U AFRAID OF? Truth is coming out and you can't stop it now, afraid more names will be mentioned are we? I am sure there will be......STAY TUNED!!
Posted by: Jeff on Jul 26, 2007 at 03:50 PM
Here is the LINK for the petition http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WVSP
Posted by: civilian employee on Jul 26, 2007 at 03:50 PM
We've been told that the superintendent said that civilians are necessary evils. The Eastern Panhandle has no radio operators; they have all quit due to low pay. Who wants to work for $15,800 a year and work all shifts and weekends, plus all the stress. They got a 3 and 1/2 percent raise this year but 3 and 1/2 percent of nothing is nothing. Magistrate court got a $5,000 raise this year and also got a $5,000 raise last year. They start out at $35,000 a year. Must be nice.
Posted by: Jimmy on Jul 26, 2007 at 03:30 PM
GOVERNOR MANCHIN,this egomaniac you have as the leader of the WVSP is running the outfit like it's 1970. He has surrounded himself with foolish yes men like Captain Barnett. Barnett will cut your throat as he stands on your head trying to climb to the top, or threaten you with physical harm when he has his henchmen close. He won't threaten you without his safety blanket. Today Colonel Lemmon held a meeting and condoned all of Captain Barnett's actions. Lemmon told the WVSP Senior Staff that neither he nor Barnett has done anthing wrong and they were NOT going to resign. It's obvious that if you are sincere about helping the State Police you will clean out 725 Jefferson Road. How can Lemmon and Barnett deny any involvement in the tragedy with Gonzo. No other man shot Marlo other than Marlo, but "the ego" and the "tough guy" certainly weighed heavily in Gonzo's decision. Those two, Elmore and Cox all continuely kicked Marlo while he was down. They should have punished Marlo when he made his mistake and let the man go back to work. Heck, they allowed Elmore to get back in the State Police after he quit the State Police Academy. I know Lemmon wasn't the Colonel then, but the Lemmon family had enough political influence to keep little Lemmon, AKA Cadet DL from being stationed in the Eastern panhandle when he got out of the academy. GOVERNOR-Help the State Police if it's not too late!
Posted by: FRIEND on Jul 26, 2007 at 03:26 PM
I WENT TO THE VIEWING OF CPL. GONZALES ON SATURDAY AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE. IT GIVES ME CHILLS TO EVEN THINK ABOUT NOW. I SAW MEN AND WOMEN IN GREEN TRYING TO BE BRAVE AND NOT CRY BUT WHEN IT CAME TIME TO SPEAK TO THE TWO SONS, NOT MANY HAD DRIED EYES AFTER THAT. THIS MAN WAS TRULY RESPECTED, ADMIRED AND LOVED BY ANY WHO CAME IN CONTACT WITH HIM. I UNDERSTAND AT THE SERVICES THE FOLLOWING DAY IT WAS A SEA OF GOLD AND BLUE WITH LIGHTS FLASHING AS THEY WENT TO THE GRAVESITE. I KNOW GONZO WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN BY THE MEN AND WOMEN IN GREEN AND THOSE CIVILIANS WHO HAD CONTACT WITH HIM. SHAME ON GOV. MANCHIN IF HE IS TOO BUSY TO COME TO THIS SITE TO READ THESE TRUTHFUL PEOPLE. MAYBE WE WILL BE TOO BUSY THE NEXT TIME HE DECIDES TO RUN FOR SOMETHING TO GO AND VOTE FOR HIM. I FIGURE HE WILL HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF STATE IF HE WANTS TO EVER RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN. YOU HAVE TRULY COOKED YOUR GOOSE GOV. MANCHIN.....
Posted by: Mason County citizen on Jul 26, 2007 at 03:15 PM
Thanks Mr. Gilley for speaking out on this issue. I pray you and your family don't get retaliated against for this. Please stand firm in your beliefs and many will come forward to stand with you.Also, Mr. Manchin, if you haven't had any phone calls into your office about this what about Mr. Gilley's calls to you? We the people of WVa need to start cleaning house now and at election time! I'm a democrat but I will rethink how I vote in the next election for govenor!It is no wonder people in other states make fun of us...but I'm still a very proud West Virginian and wouldn't live any where else. Prayers to the Gonzales family,may God bless each of you.
Posted by: Smith on Jul 26, 2007 at 03:04 PM
Congrats Gilley, I've been there, I too was forced out by the administration. I too tried to speak out, but once I did the administration attempted to railroad me. It took a grand jury to clear me so I could return to Law Enforcement. I too tried to talk to the Colonel, but he refused to talk stating, "He stood behind his captain." We are not the only ones either. Several others have been forced out. Take care and good luck!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 02:58 PM
Why isn't the FBI making an investigation into this situation. This sounds like the fox guarding the hen house.
Posted by: Craig H on Jul 26, 2007 at 02:30 PM
I'm glad to see it has went the one step further. Police are in combat as well as a soldier, but a different type of combat. They dodge bullets and bodily harm just the same only to protect civilians. A bomb, bullet, knife, whats the difference. They do it for us and the proper respect should be shown. I'm glad to see it has finally gone to the next level. Now hopefully the ones who can really make a difference will come forward. Good Luck to all the policemen and women who serve to protect.
Posted by: Sherry on Jul 26, 2007 at 02:28 PM
TAKE A STAND Manchin and DONT JUST BLOW SMOKE.
Posted by: FACT on Jul 26, 2007 at 02:11 PM
DID you know that the STATE TROOOPER -that did his job and ARRESTED JACK WHITTAKER on DUI charges WAS ALSO FORCED TO RESIGN OR QUIT---WHY--money and politics--BLAME IT ON JOE AND PUTNAM CO. BRASS--THEY DIDNY WANT this GOOD ,LAW BIDING,CHRISTIAN, ( NOT) ---GOING TO JAIL...THIS IS TRUE--THE BRASS OF THE STATE POLICE AND GOV. JOE PROTECTED WHITTAKER AND FIRED A VERY GOOD OFFICER--
Posted by: TO ANONYMOUS on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:59 PM
YOUR FACE GOT RED HUH?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:47 PM
Yea, Gilley has the back bone - shame the present troopers don't. They are afraid of retaliation - Now you know how we feel when we should report trooper's wrong doings - but we don't because of retaliation.
Posted by: worried mother 3 on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:46 PM
JUST GREAT!! MY SON PUTS HIS LIFE ON THE LINE EVERY DAY AND JUST WHEN YOU THINK THE ADMINISTRATION MAY CHANGE FROM ALL THE NEGATIVE ATTENTION I READ IN TODAYS PAPER THAT ANOTHER COMPLAINT HAD BEEN FILED ON ANOTHER TROOPER FOR BEATING A MAN IN HANDCUFFS. KEEP IT TOGETHER GUYS/GALS THE STATE IS BEHIND YOU.
Posted by: NOBODY on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:38 PM
PEOPLE ARE HUMAN AND MAKE MISTAKES. EVEN PEOPLE IN UNIFORM THEIR NOT PERFECT. YOU PEOPLE ARE THROWING STONES FROM A GLASS HOUSE. WSAZ, PLEASE STOP THIS BLOG SESSION.
Posted by: Half Unit on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:30 PM
For the benefit of the Gonzalez children and also all of the hard working, dedicated, men and women of law enforcement I am in the process of setting up a website to ensure the Gonzales children will be able to attend the college of their choice with the generosity and outpouring of the citizens, as well as any law enforcement family. I hope to have the site up and running by this weekend. www.pdhelp.us
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:13 PM
Congratulation Gilley for having the back bone to stand up and be heard. Keep up the good work. You have named several people that I worked with on a case in 2003-04 and got no where with them. I was told by an investigator that the State Police is like an Indian raid on a group of Cowboys. The SP will corral their wagons together and do whatever they can to protect their own and I solely believe that after all I went through and got no help. I too contacted Governor Wise and got no help. Must be a pattern in that office. Thought the WV Government was for the people, well guess again
Posted by: Suzie on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:00 PM
Jason, I'm so proud of you and I know your family is too. Congrats on the baby--I can't wait to see him! Hang in there. Also, my thoughts and prayers to Gonzales' family.
Posted by: AREUKIDDIN on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:27 PM
GOVERNOR MANCHIN, ARE YOU THAT OUT OF TOUCH THAT YOU WOULD THINK A BUNCH A TROOPERS WOULD TELL YOU THERE NAMES??? THEY WOULD BE FIRED OR TRANSFERRED.
Posted by: Mike on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:13 PM
It sounds like there is something really fishy about this story. Why burn parts of his car and where is the in car camera. If it was me i would be wanting to view that camera to see what really happened it sounds like they cleaned it up pretty fast. Whos to say that he shot himself cause the way it sounds, maybe he was getting ready to open up about all of this stuff going on. When it comes down to it I bet some of the higher ups had something to do with it but dont worry Good ol boy dirty Joe will be right there to protect them.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:44 AM
just letting yall know that there is a petition on down this page. there has only been like 52 people sign it. if you want something done sign the petition
Posted by: Tiger on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:43 AM
I find it hilarious how people want to complain anonymously and want something done, but when the Governor asks people to come to him and make the complaints, people refuse to. It is called accountability and responsibility. I don't want to hear the excuse of people saying they are afraid to talk and take responsibility for their comments because they may get fired. The Governor has said noone will be punished for coming forward, so get off your hinds and tell Manchin about the problems in the WVSP. If you can't tell Manchin who you are, then the 'problems' in the WVSP must not be that bad then.Also, Jason Gilley is nothing but a spurned ex employee. Nothing he says can be taken seriously.
Posted by: FORMER OFFICER on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:39 AM
WHAT? So we can have our lives taken from us in every aspect, our children suffer and grow up watching us suffer for standing for what is right and to protect others? We would have to move out of state, or stay in WV & fight, and just to end up losing our sanity. As a former officer, Mr. Manchin: I have been fighting for years after being thru a similar situation with the WVRJA. It's all covered, and as a young lady with children I sit disabled, been thru surgery and live in pain everyday. I've had to fight and still fighting. State Disability removes your paperwork, lies to you (oh, these aren't allegations, I do have proof), administrators have you "taken care of" if you "buck" the system. My husband chose the route many have to just go into another line of work and leave behind his years of service. I won't stop fighting for myself and all of those who have been done wrong while trying to do their jobs and provide for their family. These are all just cries for your help, AND YOU KNOW WHAT GOES ON MR. MANCHIN and some sympathy instead of saying this: "No one should ever be anonymous. If you have a constructive complaint, a way to make things better, please come forward. People should not have to work or live in fear. It's not how this government is run, not how this administration operates, and I won't tolerate it in any branches of our administration," said Manchin. IF I CAME TO YOU MR MANCHIN, WOULD U HELP ME? OR MAKE SURE MY LIFE AND FAMILY WOULD SUFFER THE COST OF STANDING UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT TO PROTECT OTHER OFFICERS, WHILE REVEALING A CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION. I already know the answer, I've been living it and so has my family. By the way, I was one that voted you in, and you turned a deaf ear to me, when u was approached with what was going on at WRJ.
Posted by: WVTA on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:34 AM
For fellow troopers, check out the WVTA website that is rarely updated. The reps must have been instructed to get on the ball....they are doing July updates concerning their big "meeting" about the grievance procedure. They are requesting anyone with problems contact them.....gee, why didnt' we think of that earlier? Oh yeah, we did with NO RESPONSE. They don't like that this is being 'played' in the media. Tough.
Posted by: Steve on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Governor Manchin: Phone: 1-888-438-2731 Email: Governor@WVGov.org
Posted by: Paul on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:03 AM
I was shocked and saddened to hear the governor say that he wanted those individuals to come forward and name themselves. I was also sickened when he said he wanted the workplace to be an enjoyable place here in West Virginia. He must really be out of touch with the reality of the world. NO ONE is going to tell who they are because they know people who have suffered reprisal and retaliation for speaking up. Take a poll of state workers, you will find an overwhelming majority of them will tell you this IS the worst administration they have ever seen to work for. Sure, go ahead and tell who you are, theres nothing to fear folks, wait... ask the guy who complained about the mansion renovation costs, or the inspector who complained about the construction work on the mansion's renovation. OH wait, you can't... they no longer work for the state.
Posted by: Bill on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:03 AM
This may have been posted before, but wasnt it strange how fast they called this a suicide. I am not saying they are covering something up but a regular citizen commits suicide and it is at least 2-3 days before it is confirmed. This one was confirmed in less than 1 night. Seems odd
Posted by: no name on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:56 AM
I am proud of you too Gilley, Thanks !!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:51 AM
I think the former trooper that spoke showed bravery, diginity and morality. He, Governor Manchin, Capt Lemmon, should be in charge of the administration. That is what the state police should be set upon. A good man, an honest man and a forthright man. I think the people of West Virginia just found their next Governor.
Posted by: Michelle on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:50 AM
It's no wonder Supervisors and Agency Heads are resorting to blackmail, intimidation and coercion. These tactics start at the top of the WV Government. When a governor and his secretaries can cease raises (no matter the agency has allocated funds for such or the employees haven't had raises in over 5 years), stop reclassifications (despite that the employee is currently performing additional duties) and refuse to allow hiring (although people have retired, quit or there are vacancies available) all because the agency didn't pay him off and bow to him and his secretaries with money earned through special revenue, there is a mismanagement of governmental influence and WV will never be open for business unless organized crime is looking for a new home.
Posted by: Friend of Gonzo on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:46 AM
Well, ok then. The Governor wants to hear from you, Troopers and others with concerns about the WV State Police. Here is how to do it: Phone: 1-888-438-2731 Email: Governor@WVGov.org There is strength in numbers. He can't transfer you all to Hundred or fire you at once. Before you call have your facts in order and speak to the person who answers with respect and dignity. If the Governor won't move forward with anything until he hears from you, then let him hear from you. Good luck.
Posted by: worried mother on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:42 AM
Bless the family that lost Trooper Gonzalas! While hearing Mr. Gilly talk about a certain amount of tickets that had to be written,I now know why my son was given a ticket,NO Driving License,DRIVING A RIDING MOWER ON A COUNTRY ROAD
Posted by: Regina on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:31 AM
I pray for the family that just lost their father, husband, and son. God Bless you, and I hope your pain is eased through God.
Posted by: Wife of Trooper on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:05 AM
I am the wife of a trooper. I know my husband has been on the receiving end of many a chewing from the top brass but he does try hard not to let it affect his home life. I have cried many tears for Trooper Gonazalez and his family. He was a good man and a true friend. In all of this I am wondering where is the Troopers Association. I am concerned now that my husband has no support in the very stressful and dangerous job that he does. And as for Governor Manchin, I currently am a non voter. But when reelection time comes around I will be sure to register and make sure that my vote is not for you. The flags should have definitely flown half staff. This man was one of your own. No matter how it happened he was a protector of our state. To all of the critics of the State Police.....If you think you can do a better job than I suggest you go apply to put on a Troopers uniform. Praise to Jason Gilley for speaking out. I hope it doesn't end with him. To Angel and Gonzo's three children-may you realize how loved your husband and father was by many.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:47 AM
Step forward Gov. Manchin says. I need my job and can not. However, I WILL STEP FORWARD NEXT ELECTION! Cya Manchin, wish you would have listened and ousted the Lemmons. Lemmon has said he hates WVSP civilian employees and the budget is for troopers only (well, the ones in the good ole boys club). CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES VOTE TOO!!
Posted by: tammy hefner on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:29 AM
stand up for wva troopers this was my brother to! stop all games and be a good trooper for wva your the trooper of wva not the bad guys be proud !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: earl hefner on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:19 AM
i think the trooper should get he's job back and pay to hes lost.s this is a good trooper for w.va brother a all of Gonzales
Posted by: melanie on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:13 AM
I work in the public government arena and what I've heard of Joe Manchin is disgraceful. He is a self serving politician who speaks out of both sides of this mouth. He SAYS he has an open door policy but denied this trooper entrance through that door approximatly 10 times. I hope he feels the guilt of this tragedy as much as the trooper's family but I'm sure being in the business of stabing people in the back has seared his conscience. May God have mercy.
Posted by: john on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:10 AM
I find it ironic that Col Lemmon went to the senate finance commitee and asked for more money to get more troopers because they were leaving for other jobs on local police forces. This happened the day after he forced a trooper to resign and refused to talk to him. Sounds like malfeasance in office to me. hmmmm.
Posted by: WVTA JOKE on Jul 26, 2007 at 08:37 AM
The West Virginia Troopers Assoc. will do nothing because they are connected to the Good Ol Boyz and the FOLD. The leaders of the WVTA (Troopers union) only use the club to get promoted and will NEVER, I repeat NEVER do anything against the Department.
Posted by: Member on Jul 26, 2007 at 08:21 AM
Gilley we are proud of you and are forever grateful, god bless you !!!
Posted by: gary on Jul 26, 2007 at 08:10 AM
the voters of wva will open the governer eyes on election day
Posted by: Todd on Jul 26, 2007 at 07:02 AM
I have several issues, the first is that I have lived through a suicide in my family, and NO you don't always have warning signs. Secondly, I have worked in the EMS field for over 25 years and have worked with and have had many troopers as friends. There may very well be problems within the leadership, And I assume that there is, but knowing the working conditions of a Trooper, the long hours, double shifts, no backup, poor pay, etc. is enough to make any normal person strain under the pressure. But don't let us forget what they see and here and go through. I have witnessed on too many of occasions, how our Troopers get treated, not by the Supervisors, but by the public. The drunks, murderers, fighters, drugies, and general public will all put down a police officer, call them names, will fight them, curse them, spit on them, and will even try to do bodily harm or to kill them. This is not a normal job, and much is expected of them, so I beg our leaders as a citizen and working taxpayer, to give the Troopers better working conditions, better benefits, better pay, and and the support they need. Times are getting worse, police officers are perceived as the enemy and the criminal has all the rights, we need to turn the tide and make a difference now, before we loose more good men and women from our WVSP. Remember people when you call for help, you will be glad they respond. To the Gonzales family, you will never get over this, but with time you can cope, seek the help of friends and family, God Bless You!
Posted by: Typical... on Jul 26, 2007 at 06:10 AM
It is so funny that the Department has investigated some of their own, only because some disgruntled citizen OR POLITICIAN has made an "ANONYMOUS" complaint, but in a case like this, the Gov. wants the troopers to "come forward".
Posted by: Anthony on Jul 26, 2007 at 02:45 AM
If the Gov. thinks that there would be no ill effects felt by those that chose to go public with their concerns of the WVSP, then he really has no clue as to what is going on in the world. He needs to get his head out of the clouds are realize that he is not in control as he thinks he is.
Posted by: bj on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:51 AM
the only problem with conservation officers is that Trooper just out rank them read the state law. Also the Trooper from Jackson County is a very good man and did not deserve the punishment from the shooting, the man was trying to kill him for Gods sake.
Posted by: trooper wife on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:39 AM
my thoughts and prayers are with the Gonzales family through this difficult time. i hope there will be some good that comes out of this situation, but it is sad that such a great man had to be lost to get everyones attention. i think governor manchin should have a very long talk with jason gilley and maybe then he will understand what really goes on in the WVSP. it is a numbers game and if your numbers aren't what they say they should be, well they let you know it. and the fact that troopers know if they complain about anything they will be punished, well it's like my husband told me... i would quit before i ever complained to anyone because life would be hell if i did.
Posted by: TRINA on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:19 AM
Angel,boys&family may God ease your pain and heal your hearts.I am praying for you all. We love you guys so much.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2007 at 01:08 AM
First I would like to say how deeply my heart breaks for the Gonzales family. I was once married to a Trooper, I know first hand how things are not done appropriately. My ex-husband was a loving, caring, honest man with morales and values but his career choice changed the man that I knew and loved. Yes, it is a brotherhood and they claim to be a family and have one another's backs but when push comes to shove, that is simply not true. My ex tried extremely hard to fit in with the "JOB" and what the higher authorities wanted and expected, it nearly broke him as a man, it did break his spirit and everything that I knew that he believed in. He got caught up in the wrong things, so to speak and when I went forward for them to help us, it was all swept under the rug. I spent many nights praying for my ex-husbands safe return home from every shift he worked, I know in his heart that he wanted to serve our State and Country. I know that he wanted to be the best Trooper that he could be and do it the right way but the pressure to fit in became to much for him and he ended up losing part of his family in the process. There are a lot of things that goes on within the department that are way beyond legal, when certain men let the power of their authority go to their head, they feel unreachable and that nothing can touch them. It is a sad fact, not only with the WVSP but will law enforcement in general. Any man who goes into this field, should never have children or get married simply because this line of work is not fit for a family environment. I commend Jason Gilley for speaking up and taking a stand. I pray that other Troopers will do the same before they get lost in the shuffle like my ex did. I have no idea where my ex-husband is now, I still continue to pray for him and hope that God keeps a close hand over him. He simply let the JOB change the man he truely is.
Posted by: WVSP Supporter on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:43 AM
Great interview Gilley! You made the green proud. I can bet that you have the So. Chas. click squirming Thursday morning. Perfect! Thank you!
Posted by: Blaine on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:39 AM
The wvsp is like alot of other agencies in the state. They will say what people want to hear and do what they want. As a retired officer myself I can tell you the WVSP does have a quota to go along with low morale. Some officers do need disciplined, but, like other agencies including Parkersburg Police and the City of Parkersburg they are only interested in the politics of the agency and state. What ashame. Good luck Troopers
Posted by: Me in WV on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:32 AM
After listening to the video with the ex trooper, it sounds like the "Good Ol' Boy" politices in WV are worse than ever. Stop protecting you buddy Manchin and give us a solution.
Posted by: Lacy on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:10 AM
I am very saddened to hear about the death of this WV State Trooper. I am a young woman of only nineteen years, and may not know everything about the world, but I don't believe that anyone no matter where they are employed, should be pushed that far. I can't even imagine the sickness his family must feel right now and the only comforting words that come to mind is that I am deeply sorry for your loss. I feel in my heart that he was a very hard working man, who loved his family dearly, and I'm sure that he would've never wanted to leave you in such a way as this. I must say that I am very disgusted at the very core of my being in hearing about how these officers of the law were treated and if anyone, no matter who you are thinks that treatment such as this, to good officers is acceptable, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!
Posted by: Damon on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:08 AM
I was Chief of Criminal Investigations for the West Virginia Secretary of State for twelve years, investigating election fraud and other criminal violations before Joe Manchin took office in 2001. When Mr. Manchin took office he eliminated my position. He did not want election fraud or any other criminal activity investigated by the Secretary of States Office although we had full Law Enforcement powers. He stopped most investigations by stopping investigators travel. He requested all criminal investigation file be turned over to his Chief of Staff. Not copies but the original files. Mr Manchin promised to help me find other employment. I was making $37,000 dollars a year and he made one call to the Department of Corrections for a position that paid less that $18,000 dollars a year and I would still have to drive 52 miles to work everyday. Every time I interviewed for a good paying State job, for which I was qualified to preform, I was never hired. Sometimes I was never called for an interview. I finally obtained employment in Lincoln County for a salary of $18,000 dollars per year. I went to seven, well known and respected attorneys, trying to find one to file suite against Mr. Manchin but no attorney in Huntington or Charleston would take my case. I finally found a Lincoln County, recent graduate of law school, to take my case but due to the lack of experience, I lost my battle. By forcing Trooper to write tickets, they have least time to investigate crime. This appears to be what Mr. Manchin wants. Troopers have good reasons to fear for their jobs if they come forward and speak out. Mr. Manchin says one thing but he will do another. Our new motto is "West Virginia Open For Business", but what business our we open for and who is gaining the benefits.
Posted by: Appreciative on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:03 AM
Thank you, Jason Gilley.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:34 PM
Gov. Manchin is full of "it" when he says there is no reason for anonymous complaints. The troopers are obviously afraid of losing their jobs, or worse, being next on the list of people that are harrassed by the administration. Any person with a brain in their head could see that is why these complaints have been made anonymously. Manchin, change must happen. There is obviously a problem from within, or the troopers would not hesitate to go to their superiors with problems. I manage a large number of people 8:00-5:00 Monday through Friday. They may not always like my decisions or like to do what I ask them to do, but they never fear coming to me for anything be it a complaint, request, opinion or question. This administration obiously makes their staff feel as though they can't be honest for fear of retaliation.
Posted by: citizen on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:25 PM
If there's this type of undercover things going on ,how are citizens suppost to trust the state police..Wonder what else goes on that we the people dont know about that happens behind closed door's.....
Posted by: Jamie on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:21 PM
You were a great guys R.I.P I will keep your family in my thoughts an prayers God Bless Them
Posted by: Outraged at Gov on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:16 PM
I am outraged that the Governor would have the nerve to say he has seen no evidence and you hear "rumors". What a joke? That is a typical politicians answer to nothing will be done about this matter. He knows what is going on and he has let the Col. run a circus of an administration. Hey Gov put on your glasses and read all of the "rumors" on here because it sounds like you need to brush up on your Col. and his puppets. Yes, I am sure that troopers are just lining up to come forward and complain so that more bullying and retaliation will come their way. I imagine that a whole lot of troopers, wives, and the general public will not give you anymore votes. Come on Governor do the right thing and quit letting your "personal" relationship with the Col. and his wife get in your way of sound judgement.
Posted by: Trooper Too on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:15 PM
2 comments that shouldn't be lost in the hundreds: Anonymous said: Someone close to family members said that Gonzo had turned the camera in his car toward him right before he shot himself. Also found in the car was a bible with a 4 page letter about how he had tried to take a leave of absence from work and was denied, also his wife and him where having trouble at the time and he wanted to take the child away from his mother. There is alot to this story they are not talking about. And angry said: I hope everyone can see how this administration works. They intend to transfer their pawns around until this blows over , then welcome them back to their former positions. Transfers will not fix anything, it will most likely make things worse. People do not let them dodge this one, hold them accountable! If Lemmon isn't hiding anything then why burn parts of Gonzos car? I would be willing to bet his in car camera accidentally fell in the fire as well. What about the letters? This administration disgusts me! There is a sad truth to face though - If they only manage to get rid of Lemmon what about Dave Jr.,Barnett,Cox,Elmore,Marcum,Parsons and the other part of their click. If they are going to do housecleaning, then get rid of all the junk.
Posted by: richard on Jul 25, 2007 at 10:30 PM
HE COMMITTED SUICIDE! His choice, his decision. He either had mental problems or he didn't. If he did, quit blaming others. If he didn't, he got what he wanted. Sad as it is, it's not as sad as the people who are blaming others for one man's willful action.
Posted by: Proud West Virginian on Jul 25, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Bless you Jason Gilley! I commend you for coming forward and hope others will follow suit for change. You've shown great courage in an uneasy time. You've also made this WV Mountaineer proud and maybe the governor will listen THIS time. You truly are a WV Trooper at heart!
Posted by: 20 year cop on Jul 25, 2007 at 09:52 PM
Gonzo was a good person & a good cop. That means he would have been good no matter what department he worked for. Taking pride in the job & department is great, but as is the norm, the department failed Gonzo. Having an effective intervention program is the right thing to do. You don't want someone carrying a gun out there working unless they are in the right frame of mind. Regardless of the reason for distress (personal vs. work reason). It is morally wrong to not try to take care of your people. As for the WVSP, it has always been a fraternity like other police agencies across the state. But, they tend to be a bit intolerant of anyone that rocks the boat or doesn't "go along" with what the group does. The WVSP has long been in need of an overhaul. Setting themselves apart is NOT what is needed. That just puts others down. Setting themselves up as examples is what is needed. That helps ALL law enforcement in this state. There are good cops in the WVSP, but I regularly see the good ones not held in good esteem by the higher ups in that department because their activity is too low. In other words, they're not stopping enough cars. I still can't get my head around their concept of being expected to "donate" time. No city or county law enforcement agency does this. If ANY police officer is working, they need to get paid for every second that they are working.
Posted by: Another Civilian on Jul 25, 2007 at 09:36 PM
I haven't seen anyone mention about how Colonel Lemmon refused last year to have Civilian Appreciation Day for the civilian employees of the department. He was quoted as saying civilians are just lucky to have a job, and he wouldn't have any appreciation day unless the governor made him. He sure is a great leader, huh
Posted by: Disgusted on Jul 25, 2007 at 09:23 PM
I was a WVSP Trooper for almost thirty years. I knew early on in my life that I wanted to be a policeman, and my goal was to be a State Trooper. I was very fortunate to be selected as a Cadet and would take nothing for the experiences, knowledge, and friends I gained by being in the organization for all those years. I'm not very proud at this moment to be a retired member, in fact I'm disgusted. As was said previously, this site could have been a good thing for the Gonzales family and the Department, but instead it has become a finger pointing atmosphere. This to me clearly shows that control and leadership of the WVSP has been lost, right, wrong or indifferent. It would appear that this storm has set in, and is going nowhere quick. My prayers go out to the Gonzales family.....they like everyone want to see a positve outcome resulting from this tragic event. Someone, everyone, get together and do the right thing.......it's not that hard to accomplish.
Posted by: K9Deputy on Jul 25, 2007 at 09:05 PM
It is a shame that alot of officers seperate themselves from the rest of us just based on our uniform color. I have 2 uncles that are troopers and alot of the men and women I serve with are troopers. I think some people are missing the point. No matter the uniform color or the badge shape, it was a fellow brother that has fallen. I feel that if anything needs questioned it's not the employee but the employer. God bless the Gonzales family, From the men and women that wear stars to those who wear sheilds, UNITED as a family!
Posted by: Friend of the family on Jul 25, 2007 at 08:58 PM
In an effort to re-focus...I want to say that the services that I attended were very touching. The funeral procession to the cemetery was a wonderful tribute to an officer who passed all too soon. The last call...21 gun salute...taps and helicopter were almost too much to bear. Thank you to the Gonzales family and to the State Police family for allowing me (a friend who is non-family and a civilian) to share in your grief. Marlo will definately be missed.
Posted by: R Shackleford on Jul 25, 2007 at 08:52 PM
Well, after seeing the news again on WSAZ at 6:00 I see Governor Manchin is sticking up for the Lemmons. He said the only way something can be done is for people to step forward with complaints. This is coming from the governor who told state employees after he took office that anyone who filed a grievance would be looking for employment. So do you think people should go ahead and come forward, Joe..... you sure do talk out of both sides of your mouth. The only way a state employee can say something is anonymously unless they are guaranteed protection from termination or punishment. The ONLY hope for this state is the next election. You MUST remember this next year !!!!!
Posted by: Proud Wife of Retired Trooper on Jul 25, 2007 at 08:44 PM
I'm so sorry for our loss of Marlo. He was a friend and a kind, gentle man. You are wrong if you think Manchin can or will fix this. He can't, he's part of the problem. He knows everything thats going on in SC. Most of the Senior Staff needs to go. But mostly Manchin needs to go. He really started all this by making poor decisions to start with. He had a personal agenda, he still does. WV you can do something come election. Trooped Gonzo, this is for you, you have not died in vien. My husband too, suffered greatly at the hands of upper level staff. I feared for his life for a long time. Finally he had recovered and left. We are better off. But the state lost a hard worker, and and an awesome trooper when he was forced to walk away. But in order for someone else to get what they want someone else has to go, at any cost.
Posted by: 2 Decade Green Warrior on Jul 25, 2007 at 08:16 PM
I have read each of these blogs for the past few days and to all my fellow green brothers I must state, lets not forget who we work for. The West Virginia State Police, When did they ever do the right thing ? When did they ever promote the hardest working members who earned it? Rarely if any at all. The only time I can ever remember the promtions being fair, was the short time period Williams and Stickler were in charge. Don't be too disappointed when nothing happens this time. The governor has said he will check into it, the Colonel will come up with some lame attempt to reach out to all of us and offer counseling to save face, and Barnett will be quiet for a little while. Several months down the road Lemon will resign on his own terms, which we all know is going to happen anyway. As long as politics runs the WV State Police, there will be politics in it. It's always been that way as long as I can remember, it just takes about 8 - 10 years for all of us to finally believe it. I shall not return to this site after I leave you with this thought. Did you ask to be the Trooper or did they come and ask you? I kept this saying from a man who was eventually fired from this department. In the end all we have is: the department has lost a good man, and his family is left to grieve. To Marlo's family, May you find peace in knowing that he was a good trooper and an even better MAN.
Posted by: Concerned on Jul 25, 2007 at 07:57 PM
To hear Manchin say he does not know of any morale problems in the WVSP. Well this just tells me how little he knows about the problem.. So maybe he should appoint someone to take complaints from current and "former" members that has no ties to the current administration. And I would bet he will be busy reading for a few hours. If what I'm hearing is true, and Cpl. Gonzales asked for some time off without pay and was refused and sent on his way. Some guy's are having a hard time sleeping or I know I would....
Posted by: Rene on Jul 25, 2007 at 07:49 PM
Why are nearly all of you people claimaing to be troopers posting anonymously? You will never facilitate any change in the department by remaining anonymous. Stand up and be counted. Ban together and force the hand of state goverment to make a positive change. I know you fear retaliation, but believe me I speak from experience... though it may be hard to find the guts to do it, you have to say who you are and how you feel about what is going on in the organization. If you present only the facts, there will be a good outcome. Retaliation is against the law in the work place!! Help other troopers who may be in a bad spot and thinking about doing the same thing that Gonzo did. You can't help them by remaining anonymous!!
Posted by: TROOPER SUPPORTER on Jul 25, 2007 at 07:45 PM
FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WANTING TO KNOW WHERE THE TROOOPERS ASSOC. STANDS WITH THIS SITUATION, CONTACT YOUR TROOP REPRESENTATIVE AND PRAY FOR GONZO'S FAMILY.
Posted by: a birdie told me on Jul 25, 2007 at 07:24 PM
Looking at the messages I see that it's not the active WVSP troopers themselves posting anymore. (Notice sudden the absence of fire?) If what I heard is true, then the FBI can't ride in fast enough. I hope it isn't so. I pray it isn't so. Let's all pray at the same time - agree in prayer for the families of the troopers who dared to tell the truth in order to make things better. Dear God we need you now. Trooper Gonzales you will never be forgotten - and hopefully your death will not be totally in vain. Even more - for the living - I hope your jumping ship doesn't end with other lives being tormented as well.
Posted by: Retired Members Comments on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:45 PM
Would like to thank you for taking time to read ALL the posts... Thank you for still caring about the department to feel you needed to SPEAK out... Because of men like YOU and the camradery I observed was the reason I wanted to be a trooper. What you are witnessing here is a rebirth of that... Gonzo's action and cry for help has wakened the membership and exposed the problems of TODAY... Believe me when I tell you that the issues are real. Investigate it yourself or call a trooper you know and get details. Heck.. Call a trooper and provide a shoulder and some understanding if you have walked this walk. Try remembering back when you suffered under Col. Bonar.
Posted by: Contacting tryint to help on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:44 PM
This is for tryingtohelp. You asked for people to come forward with their stories. I would love to, but can't find the contact me button on the petition. Please let me know a way to get in contact with you. Also, come on guys, it's easy to complain--put it to the petition. Manchin says he's never been contacted about problems with SP admin. Well, I for one know he has. Thanks.
Posted by: tpr wife on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:28 PM
EVERBODY NEEDS TO WATCH WSAZ NEWS TONIGHT AT 1100--2 EX-TROOPERS WILL BE ON TO TELL THEIR STORIES ABOUT --MANCHIN AND LEMMON AND SEE FOR YOURSELF--THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT---AT LAST!!!!! THANK GOODNESS
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:27 PM
Barnett is alone in his responsibliity for the trooper's death. Also, there are others who need to go and should have gone years ago. Starting with Barnett, both Lemmons and Tucker. Tucker has his own little secrets don't you Steve???
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:19 PM
They say those that commit suicide are cowards. That suicide is a permanent fix to a temporary situation. Let the man go!
Posted by: donna on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:15 PM
my prayer is with the family and friends.we lost a good tropper and good man.one thing i would say he served our city to keep drugs off the streets.god bless corporal gonzales.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:01 PM
Manchin is lying.........again.
Posted by: Repy to need a Good Trooper Back on Jul 25, 2007 at 05:48 PM
I live in Jackson County and my thoughts and prayers go out to Gonzo's family, he was a good man and a good Trooper. But to the person who commented about the Trooper a year ago in Jackson Co. being wrongfully punished and that we need him back...Well Jackson Co. doesn't need those problems again. This married Trooper definetly did not take his "first punishment like a man" as you stated. He blamed the higher up in command for his wrong doing. You can't get caught buying your 18 year old girlfriend and friends alcohol, then drive them around partying and turn around and blame someone else. I know for a fact the punishment for the "shooting incident" would not have been so bad if he had not committed this crime, anyone else (not wearing green) would have been arrested. He is a disgrace to the uniform and should not be allowed to wear "the green". But no need to check up on him, because I here after his punishment he was granted a transfer into his hometown. Please keep him out of Jackson Co. The troops there are great and do there jobs well, including the County guys and City Policeman. Col Lemon and Capt. Barnette are the root of the problems and should be made to leave.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 05:09 PM
Everyone is talking about "The Green" when in fact WV State Conservation Officers were the first to wear " The Green". Fact: Conservation Officers are the states oldest law enforcment agency CO's have the same athority as WVSP.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 04:53 PM
WV State Conservation Officers were first to wear the green uniform they are the oldest state law enforcment agency est. in 1897.
Posted by: b on Jul 25, 2007 at 04:24 PM
to "another retired member". you stated "IN ONE SENTENCE MANY OF YOU SAY WE MUST STICK TOGETHER THEN IN THE NEXT SENTENCE YOU MAKE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT ANOTHER MEMBER." if that was the case wouldnt we all be guilty. how do you justify support to a group that is in the wrong, and you dont want to be wrong? just because you belong to a fraternity doesnt mean you have to go along with them. my mother always told me "if he jumps off a bridge are you going to jump off a bridge?" the only way to get the problem resolved is to speak out unless you are one of the problems
Posted by: Liberty on Jul 25, 2007 at 03:48 PM
Respect those who have the courage to serve, and pray there serve justly. Respect those who have the courage to serve, and pray there serve justly. If you want to make change do it intelligently.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 03:44 PM
Ambushed while on horseback! You mean ambushed as in two higher ups (that shall remain nameless) a year ago following trooper Gonzales around in their car with a camera while he was working. Is that what you mean by ambushed. Retired member I will ber that you and Dave are really good friends. I can see that his circle has made it to this blog today by reading the damage control below. I think its disgusting that they pushed this man over the edge.Supervision- do you mean the kind of supervision they gave Gonzo? This has not been turned into a cheap gossip magazine, if it were then there are certainly more things we could have said. And for the comment about just sticking the name at the end , why is it then that the very same names keep popping up?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 03:19 PM
This is not about a personal grudge a few men have against the department, but wide spread. And the truth is that we were silent about how this administration has been operating. After Gonzo took his life it no longer seemed right to be silent. The fact is if they had giving this man the time he needed he would probably be here today. They pushed this man for well over a year, and I am not talking about the kind of pushing you may think of on your job ,or at a different police outfit. Everyone knows there are problems in all jobs and particularly law enforcement. But these men of brass are abusing there power. This also has a direct affect on our ability to serve the great people of this state. Would you rather receive tickets every time you leave your house or would you like us to investigate robberies, drugs, and murders? I don't believe that anyone has said that the majority of men in green are corrupt,not to be respected, or that we don't do our jobs. The simple truth is that since this administration has taken over we have been unable to be as affective as we once were. And there is no excuse for taking aim at the men who are not apart of there circle. We are not talking about making life a little hard, we are talking about applying pressure and pushing someone into a corner until he breaks. Believe me my friends, they do not care HOW you break either. Gonzo was great man and trooper, and no one is perfect. But there was a unique kindness about him and he was not a weak man. You can take the strongest of men and put them through this and he can break. He received a very "concentrated" dose of what this administration has to offer.You are right about Gonzo believing in God, and doesn't God teach us that wrong is wrong and there should be no respect of persons? Lemmon and Barnette and there crew were wrong. And now Gonzos family is left to pick up the pieces that they scattered. Does this seem right to you?
Posted by: ANOTHER RETIRED MEMBER on Jul 25, 2007 at 03:05 PM
I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THE COMMENTS POSTED BY RETIRED WVSP. I SPENT 25 YEARS IN THE SP AND HAVE MANY FOND MEMORIES OF WHAT IT USE TO BE AND HONORED TO SAY "I SERVED". I MUST HOWEVER ADMIT THAT IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE WHAT IT HAS BECOME. IN ONE SENTENCE MANY OF YOU SAY WE MUST STICK TOGETHER THEN IN THE NEXT SENTENCE YOU MAKE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT ANOTHER MEMBER. IT IS NOT MY INTENT TO DEFEND OR CONDEMN ANYONE BUT I SUSPECT THAT THOSE WHO ARE COMPLAINING THE LOUDEST ARE THE VERY ONES THAT NEED THE MOST SUPERVISION. IT IS SAD TO THINK OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT THIS SITE COULD HAVE PROVIDED TO THOSE IN NEED BUT A FEW MEMBERS OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT I GREW TO LOVE, HONOR, RESPECT AND SERVE CHOSE TO USE IT IN A VERY EMBARASSING AND DISTASTEFUL FORM. I SINCERELY APPOLOGIZE TO THE GONZALES FAMILY.
Posted by: Disgusting on Jul 25, 2007 at 02:30 PM
This makes me sick to see some of these comments that are supposedly posted by State Troopers bashing other police officers because they don't wear "the green" we are all sworn to uphold the laws of the State Of West Virginia and of the United States why is it that SOME of you troopers think you are better than other police officers simply because your issued uniform is green?
Posted by: MANCHIN on Jul 25, 2007 at 02:24 PM
the problem isn't only with the administration at the state police department, it begins with our wonderful governor manchin but the idiotic people of this state will vote him right back into office next term. neither the governor or the administration are concerned for anyone but themselves and their political gain, the latter being their sole purpose. nothing will be done about this, it'll be swept under the rug and forgotten about and the administration will be given a pat on the back by manchin for a job well done. the dirty ones always come out on top.
Posted by: $10amonthforwhat on Jul 25, 2007 at 02:10 PM
Hey Troopers association, why are you being so quiet? Are you too busy palnning the next golf tournament or fishing outing.Get busy doing what you should or atleast anything at all.
Posted by: tpr wife on Jul 25, 2007 at 01:45 PM
At this time---We NEED anybody and everybody to PLEASE STAND UP--and SIGN THESE PETITIONS ON THIS SITE--JUST READ THEM BELOW...WE NEED ALL TROOPERS, WIVES,AND CITIZENS OF WV....LETS DO WHATS RIGHT---THE ADMIN ARE JUST LYING LOW--THEY HOPE THIS --ALL THIS WILL JUST BLOW OVER--BUT WE CANT ALLOW IT TOO
Posted by: Concerned for Troopers on Jul 25, 2007 at 12:48 PM
This, in part, has turned into a forum for action of the administrative abuse that has lead to a great Trooper's demise. Comments from current and former WVSP employees are relevant to this story, and this is the only sounding board that's available to them at this time. One of the best ways to honor Corporal Gonzalez and his family, is to bring to light the aggravating administrative stressors and circumstances that lead to his untimely death. A detachment should be a Trooper's sanctuary, serving as a safe, supportive environment, as he or she does face tremendous stress out on the road. The tension is unreasonably high at the South Charleston Detachment, and as such, that element compounds the operational stress that is put upon the men and women who work there. The victims of (and those concerned about)these unjust circumstances should continue to stand in solidarity, and keep pushing to ensure change, and by those actions, bring the greatest honor to the late, great Corporal Gonzales and his family.
Posted by: kiersten & ashley on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:44 AM
we didnt know marlo, but we're close friends with aaron & only heard good things about him. we've tried helping in any way we can & we'd love to do ANYTHING else we can do. we love you aaron! you & your family are in our prayers.
Posted by: faith on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:30 AM
listen people this is a place to leave comments for gonzo and his family not to bicker over weather the military or law enforcement is more stressful if you are going to bicker do it somewhere else because you are not showing any respect to a wonderful man or those who loved him
Posted by: TO TIGER on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Tiger, it's not a grudge against the WVSP that everyone it taking about, it's just the FACTS. Facts everyone can't say face to face for the fear of being fired or transferred across state. FACTS that need to be said, because everyone is tired of the way the WVSP top brass treat the ones who do the work. While those who don't work get the credit, and use their power unjustly and to bully. Plain and simple.......everyone has had ENOUGH.
Posted by: God's Word on Jul 25, 2007 at 10:18 AM
A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold. Proverbs 22:1 The Lord will destroy the house of the proud: but he will establish the border of the widow-Proverbs 15:25 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall - Proverbs 16: 18 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished. Proverbs 16:5 Bread of deceit is sweet to a man: but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel. Proverbs 20: 17 In spite of ourselves, God still loves us and holds out his hand of mercy
Posted by: Citizen on Jul 25, 2007 at 10:12 AM
I have been reading these rebuttals every day, and there are so many people out there that have absolutely no right to be making any comment, but we wouldn't want to violate your right to free speech now would we. I know there can be many stresses and bad bosses at any job, but the fact remains that the State Police are all brothers. They are a large family that has to support one another. It is really hard to be arm in arm with someone that has a knife in your back. I would be willing to bet that many of the people out there would have a hard time with many of the things these troopers deal with on a daily basis. Could you hold a girl that has just been in a major accident until she passed away and then go on to do your job? I know you hate them when they give you that speeding ticket, or when you get caught doing something you weren't supposed to be doing, but they are out there trying to make a better life for us. So before you type in your uninformed reply, just remember that one day you must dial 911, when you need them, they will come. May GOD be with the Gonzalez family in this difficult time of healing.
Posted by: Megan on Jul 25, 2007 at 09:57 AM
Gonzo was a wonderful person and an even better state trooper. He always waved when he passed in his cruiser or stopped to say hi when he had the time. I don't know what kind of demons he was dealing with that would of lead to his death but, no matter what happens I'll always remember him as a good person and the state trooper I wanted on duty when I was working on the ambulance. He never hesitated to get down and dirty with us on calls. He never acted like he was better than us like some cops did. I hope his family finds a way to deal with this horrible tragedy. Gonzo, you will be missed. I hope u are at peace.
Posted by: RE: COOK,KNIT,SEW on Jul 25, 2007 at 09:11 AM
I think that is very rude for you to tell troopers and military wives to SHUT UP and if your going to atleast don't be a coward about it and put your name. We all have freedom of speach. I just don't think that anyone should say anything bad about the dead. They should be respected.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 07:52 AM
To both, the uniformed and non-uniformed postions in the WVSP, you know Gov. Manchin will allow time for this situation to calm down and for his sake blowover. But to the Troopers, when he comes to your community for a political event and you are ordered to haul him around, take advatage of the situation and let him know face to face your concerns. Also, does the Personell Director oversee the counseling program for the Dept?
Posted by: GrewUp on Jul 25, 2007 at 07:47 AM
I once got into trouble in Cabell Co. and Trooper Gonzales happened to be the one to arrested me. There were a couple of other Troopers there that day and some county deputies. Most of the "cops" were physically and verbally abusive but Trooper Gonzales was respectful and behaved professionally. Because of his actions that day I have always respected law enforcement and held them in high regard because I know for certain that no matter how many bad apples there are there will also always be people like Trooper Gonzales to balance the scales.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:24 AM
Sounds like wv needs a good house cleaning,starting at the top.
Posted by: COP on Jul 25, 2007 at 06:06 AM
No one knows what was going on in his life so leave him and the WVSP alone. A police officer is dead! A police officer that im sure helped alot of people in his career. and im sure he made alot of you mad when he wouldnt let you drive drunk or dive 100 mph on the interstate. I didnt know him but im a police officer myself, and I can tell you we have alot of stress. Do you know what its like to work a wreck where a child is dead? Or see murders day in and day out or children abused? and we get to watch the courts cut them lose. It can take its toll on you. Not to mention if he had anything wrong off the job. You want to talk about troopers? One of my best friends wears gray and im a city unit. We are all the same we would all help anyone in need. And what agency dont have problems? if you know of one let us all know so we can apply. For some reason people just like to talk about the police. People its what we do for a living, sure we make some people mad but do you think we enjoy it? ANYBODY that could say anything about this man has problems. And if you want to talk bad about the state police just remember this State,County or city just like you we are all equal thats the way god created us. trust me youre no better than him so dont talk about something that you dont know about!!
Posted by: Out/IN/out on Jul 25, 2007 at 03:17 AM
I started working for a large police department in WV many years ago. We had the exact same problems in that department that are expressed in this blog. I left that department and joined the state police to get away from it but guess what, it was the same. I managed to retire from the state police, staying on because whatever you might think, they are by far the best law enforcement agency in the state and are much better than any police department in the state I work in now as Chief of Police of a medium sized department. The men and women of the WVSP are the most dedicated, courageous, loyal and dependable officers I have ever had the pleasure of working for or with. Their reputation is well known nationwide. The training they recieve is considered second to none in the country. Guess what? The department I started out in still has the same problems and I'm dealing with the same problems in the department I head now. How many of you can (honestly) say you have EVER seen a trooper back down from danger? Be honest with yourself even though some of you will submit that you have and you will be lying. I'm sure the good Cpl's family really appreciates us turning this blog into an cheap magazine gossip column.
Posted by: JT on Jul 25, 2007 at 03:14 AM
For the past several days I have read all the comments, I am not a troop nor law enforcement officer. I am a professionl fire fighter. In my family ( IAFF) we hang the flag half staff for any fallen brother no matter the reason, Also I have worked closely for the past 11 yrs with WVSP an I salute any Green for their service and dedication to the service. I like them belong to a brotherhood an Cpl Gonalas was a good Troop from the times I was around him. I have many friends who are troops an I agree their needs to be a change, too many problems with this Command. I have seen the old school an new but one thing had not changed like the fire service I am in, that is the people we serve day an night making sure they are safe. I do not bleed green but blue the ones that take care or the innocent and protect them. I take care of the ones already hurt. The men and woman in Green take care of me an the people of WV. So I ask every man and women to demand an investigation from the Gov. HQ in South Charleston needs looked at through a microscope. We in the public service field, Troops, Firefighters and EMS are held to a higher standard an our jobs day in and day out is stressfull unlike any other. Yes Our men and women in the military have a dangerous job and I applaude them for their service but ours is now, then and future. So it is no more dangerous. As a taxpayer, a voter and citizen of WV I ask the Gov to investigate the problem. Cause I have taught sereral classes at the academy and we have the best of the best in WVSP. Thank you JT member of Local 837 SCFD, I.A.F.F
Posted by: Boot Troop on Jul 25, 2007 at 03:01 AM
I knew Cpl Gonzales. He was always good to me when everyone else was teasing me for being "the new guy." I'll be the boot until we get another class through. I'm a faithful Christian and always have been. There is no way I could defend anyone for doing the wrong thing. I detest liars. I can honestly say that as with any job you have the bad apples. With the state police, I can promise you that the names you have heard or read about are the only true bad apples I have been exposed to. 99.9 percent of the troopers I have worked with and met are the bravest most dedicated men and women I have ever met. Even with the problems, I could never explain how proud I am to be among them. Every face in the department was weak, every eye moist the day after this happened. It's just now sinking in with me. To those of you who are attempting to stain the reputation of the Sate Police, I say "good luck." Those who know troopers know much better and those are the only ones with opinions that count. Just a little less than 100 years ago, troopers were getting shot off their horses in cowardly ambushes as they rode for sometimes days to another part of the state to arrest a murderer or make the state safer in other ways. It's been the same every since.
Posted by: LONG ENOUGH on Jul 25, 2007 at 02:48 AM
These posts are starting to sound the same over and over. That tells me it's all been said. PLEASE join me in requesting that these blogs be stopped. Let the CPL, his surviving family and his extended family (state police) alone now. From someone who knows, people are just starting to make up stories and attach whatever trooper's name they can think of to the end. This starting to be a mess. WSAZ, this is a good thing to have for your stories but as with any good thing, moeration is the key. If you want to start a blog, start one for the troopers and family members only, not for any pathetic member of the public that wants a little revenge for a ticket. You know who you are, your faces are getting red right now.
Posted by: Concerned West Virginian on Jul 25, 2007 at 02:11 AM
I work with Troopers everyday and sometimes I hear them speak of the current administration or the lack thereof. I really did not realize how bad the problem is until I was told of the comments being made by Troopers down South. It's a real shame that it has had to come to this, men and women WVSP have to use this site to voice thier concerns. That should tell us all something... I have seen many great police officers leave the WVSP in the last several years some use money as a excuse and others just want to do something else. But anyone who has been doing this knows we don't do it for the money. I really believe it's time for Col. Lemmon to go and you'll see the appointed Capts. Majors. and Lt. Cols. change with a new administration. Although I'm not a Trooper every single one I've met are great guy's and girls and I hope everything works out for thier benefit... I never met Trooper Gonzalez, but I knew who he was. To all the Troopers down South don't give up..
Posted by: GMan on Jul 25, 2007 at 01:13 AM
I am saddened by the death of this fine trooper and I am disheartened by the accusations stated in this blog. The WVSP has always been second to none in performance and I refuse to bewlieve anything less even after I have read these venting alligations. If you troopers know of any criminal acts being conducted within the administration then you should report it to the U.S. Attorney. You would be protected under the whistleblower act. Abuse of powers is a violation of law. The days of good ol' boy politics is long gone it's criminal now! I remember there use to be a pedistal down on the hill it had a 4-point green hat on it with a polished brass plaque that read YOU WANT IT, YOU EARN IT. If you have earned it don't let any one take it from you. If you are being forced to meet quotas against your better judgement then the state attorney general need to do some investigating or explain why he won't. Remember you don't work for Governor Joe Manchin or his Superintendent you work for the people of the State of West Virginia. If you make your cries known we will hear you......
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 12:53 AM
"Associate yourselves with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation;for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company". George Washington "Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." Andrew Jackson
Posted by: agree on Jul 25, 2007 at 12:46 AM
North Trooper everyone agrees with you. We all realize that this mess does not only fall at the steps at South Charleston, but in many other detachments as well. The hope is that if we can clean out some on brass row that perhaps we can bring change and pride back to the entire department.
Posted by: Friend on Jul 25, 2007 at 12:37 AM
Allen you have no idea what this trooper was going through with his job or his personal life. Only the good lord knows that. And you certainly have no right to even mention the word "hell", trooper G was a child of Gods and only God knew his pain and why this happened. Go to church and ask forgiveness.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2007 at 12:27 AM
I wonder why Manchin is so willing to flush his political career for Ruth and Dave Lemmon. Was he serious sending Lara Ramsburg out there to say that they have heard no complaints? I guess none of his aids printed this blog for him to see! Has there been such an outcry in the WVSP like this from any time that you can remember?Anyone can see that there is obvious truths written here. Most thought Manchin a friend of Troopers, even giving them a well deserved pay raise. So will he now stop at words in their hour of need? If any of these guys could pull out a sheet of complaints with Lemmons signature I am sure they would have already. But Manchin should know better than most that they never leave a trail that can be followed back to them. If something isn't done this will not only leave a mark on the department, but also on Manchins leadership or lack thereof.
Posted by: angry on Jul 25, 2007 at 12:09 AM
I hope everyone can see how this administration works. They intend to transfer their pawns around until this blows over , then welcome them back to their former positions. Transfers will not fix anything, it will most likely make things worse. People do not let them dodge this one, hold them accountable! If Lemmon isn't hiding anything then why burn parts of Gonzos car? I would be willing to bet his in car camera accidentally fell in the fire as well. What about the letters? This administration disgusts me! There is a sad truth to face though - If they only manage to get rid of Lemmon what about Dave Jr.,Barnett,Cox,Elmore,Marcum,Parsons and the other part of their click. If they are going to do housecleaning, then get rid of all the junk.
Posted by: Tiger on Jul 25, 2007 at 12:09 AM
This whole petition and lobbying looks like someone with a grudge against the top of the WVSP taking advantage of this tragedy to further their agenda, and that is pathetic. It is sad that this young man took his own life, and hopefully the community will rally around his widow and child and help them through this tragedy. Leave the petty polics out of it and focus on this grieving family.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:54 PM
Why hasn't the West Virginia Troopers Associations rank come forward. Do they take care of the Troops who pay dues or not? They have the opportunity to unite the men , but for whatever reason are remaining silent.
Posted by: north trooper on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:29 PM
Everyone realizes there are problems within the WVSP, all detatchments have their own burdens to bear. Rumors about gambling/card playing and drinking circulate in every county. Why the focus on South Charleston? We all need a little cleaning up. Bring back the pride of being a trooper. It used to be something to be proud of...it's getting embarrassing.
Posted by: half an idea on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:19 PM
Here's the blog's address again http://timeforwvspadminchange.blogspot.com/
Posted by: CLOSE friend of family on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:10 PM
I am reading some of this for the first time and to answer one of the people on here about a fund for the family (widow),NO, there is no fund set up for her or their 2 year old.She is left with the burden of how she will pay their bills. She is a loving,caring,wonderful,devistated young single mother.To all the support from all the troopers who are constantly checking on her and trying to keep her going THANK YOU. You all make me proud and encourage me to be a better person.I pray that all this get's resolved in a fair honest way because we have some incredible state troopers and most people have NO idea the sacrifices they make for us.Please keep the family in your prayers.
Posted by: LEO on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:00 PM
The WVSP is mismanaged from the ground up, and it gets worse as you go up. Over 600 troopers and they can't have 8 or 10 troops per county? Why not? Many Sheriff Departments cover the counties 24/7, on patrol and not on call after, with fewer men. Some detachments have 3 or 4 guys on day shift, and one or none in the evening when all the calls come in. Why...they are not managed properly. There are many of great officers in the State Police, and most of them are the field troops. I am close friends with many and I back them up, and they back me up without question. But, their department "leaders" are the true problem. I would take a $12000 pay raise if I joined the WVSP and would be doing the same job I am now. I don't need the money enough to put up with what these troops put up with.
Posted by: HHS Senior on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:59 PM
I just got back from out of town and this was the last thing I expected. I live out Sycamore too and I just want his son gonzo and his family to know that they're in my prayers. This is just awful and I hope they do a proper investigation.
Posted by: ANDRIA on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:45 PM
RE:JENNIFER AND ALL ELSE WHO KNOW NOTHING AND EXPRESS IDIOTIC STATEMENTS. I am a resident of putnam county and i have known gonzo for a long time..when i was in trouble he was the one to help me and check on me after all was over..whenever he saw you around he would smile or wave and was a great officer of the law. many of the troopers, county officers and city officers in putnam county are the same way. To express such a rude statement of FORGET THE DEAD AND WORRY ABOUT THE LIVING...is that something you would want said the day you die? Gonzo's death has affected many people in putnam county..how are you suppose to forget that? His death should not be an excuse to bash ANY law enforcement in this country, but an eye opener to those who think so badly of Cops. They are humans too. They have families, friends, and lives outside of the uniform. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but some should not be expressed loud enough for others to hear. RIP Marlo Gonzalez...you will always be a hero to many of us in putnam county.
Posted by: I signed, did you? on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:32 PM
Rally up, I signed the petition, did you? Whoever thought of that is a genius, come on now, there's over 300 comments complaining and 20 signatures, what's up with that? http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WVSP/signatures
Posted by: Retired WVSP on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:12 PM
It saddened me deeply to hear of the death of Cpl. Gonzales last week. A friend, a dad, a son, a police officer, a husband...the list goes on, because he was all of these. Being a retired member, I know the void that is created when you lose a fellow officer. The void is always worse when you personally know the officer. I must say that in my many years of being close to the organization, I have never felt as embarrassed as have I felt in the last few days regarding some the comments made on this web site. I am specifically referring to the harsh, disrepectful allegations made against the front office and other members of the Department. I am not defending anyone, I am only condemming those who have made, and wish to make a stage out of this tragic incident, and grind their axes in public. The comments that have been made are neither professional nor proper, particularly when these comments are based on, what I suspect is, a lot of hearsay based on few hard facts, if any. I applaud anyone who offers solutions to a problem.......to merely be critical without offering solutions only adds to the resentment, hate and scorn that apparently exists within the rank and file of the Department. The State Police I know has character, dedication, and most of all....RESPECT. I fear the WVSP has lost a lot of respect since this web site was first published, an amount that may never be replenished. I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Frankie, Marlo's father in law on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:04 PM
When I see or hear his name it makes me want to throw my shoulders back with pride. In all the years Marlo has been in our family I never once heard him call me anything but DAD. I love Marlo with all my heart. He was and is a wonderful father and husband to my grand children and daughter (Angel). He loved the troops and was always telling me stories. I have no harsh words to say in this post, I just want the troops to know he loved them but the community and State as a whole. The last words he said to me that dreadful day was "I love you Dad". In the past year I have seen a big change in him still loving and kind but more serious and quiet. Too quiet. We talked about it but he seemed to take so much in and didn't want to let much out. We miss him so. We want to thank everyone from the youngest troop to the Governor for the way we have been treated during the funeral and these days after. I would ask you in Marlo's name to be kind to each other and get any problems worked out so that our troopers are safe and happy in their work. May God keep you safe. PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR FAMILY.
Posted by: X-Sr/Trooper on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:36 PM
What a terrible tragedy. I'm so sorry you let them win. Corporal, I hope your passing is not in vain. Wake up, WVSP. What happened to "We're all we got?"
Posted by: THIS IS RIDICULOUS on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:33 PM
Any further posts only make WSAZ look like grave robbers. PLEASE SHUT THIS DOWN NOW. CME ON WSAZ have a heart and the guts to post this....................
Posted by: to EVERYONE!!!! on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:30 PM
I have been in combat, I have worked for a large company and now work for a large Police Department. All these complaints, every single one is exactly the same complaints that everyone everywhere complains about. I hate my boss, I don't get payed enough, I work more hours, they get more attention, they have something I don't have, they are crooked, I'll really get it if I speak my mind, no one will do anything. Most may be true.......welcome to the real world people. The state police is just like any other place that employs more than 10 people. For Gods sake just stop it. Using this sight to bash the state police makes you much like a ghoul.........
Posted by: trooper supporter on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:20 PM
My prayers are with the Gonzales family. There has been a fund set up for the children thru the Putnam County Bank, Hurricane, WV. To our men in Green, keep the faith.
Posted by: Magistrate Court on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:17 PM
On behalf on all those in Kanawha County Magistrate Court I want to say that the Gonzales family is in our thoughts and prayers. We have lost a wonderful man that had done a lot of good in our area. RIP Gonzo...you are gone, but not forgotten
Posted by: Connie on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:16 PM
My husband was also on the receiving end of Captain Barnett's abuse. After refusing to resign, he was terminated by Captain Barnett. While he was being terminated Sgt. Ellison was inventorying all his items issued to him by the WVSP and quickly delivered them back to procurement before my husband left the building. How sad, I sat and witnessed this from my vehicle. Imagine Sgt. Ellison's surprise when he looked up and saw me and realized I had been sitting there the whole time. I was there to support my husband when he left. I just knew he would be a broken man, and a broken man he was. I hope all you men, as I call bullies with badges who abuse your authority are proud of what you have done to so many people and how you effected every aspect of their lives after you raped them of whatever pride or dignity they had. Sleep well men. I say that if there is a God and he is a just God, then may you have a miserable eternal sleep. I never met Cpl. Gonzales, but I can only imagine the hell those people put him through. I am so sorry for his family, especially his children. I think it would be nice if someone would set up a fund for his wife and children. I know I certainly would donate.
Posted by: RE I KNOW HOW THEY WORK on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:15 PM
I hope you have the time (guts) to bring your criminal allegations forward to the proper authorities. Troopers save lives EVERY DAY in this state. They would even put their life on the line for you even though your mother probably wouldn't spit on your worthless face if it were on fire. Well, maybe not for you........but most people
Posted by: WONDERING on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:15 PM
As I sit here and read through these comments I makes me wonder what is going to happen next. I am not a trooper myself, but I deal with them on a daily basis in my line of work. I am proud to say I know a lot of these troopers because they are wonderful individuals. And I can honestly say that I have heard from many of them about the stress involved in working at South Charleston. Someone needs to investigate what is happening here. We have troopers from SC working 16 hours a day because they don't have enough coverage when they are adding troopers all of the time to an area like Quincy. Give these guys and girls some help. Focus on what needs to be done instead of who you want to be in your "click". Let the ones that want to do their job do it instead of trying to find a reason to transfer or punish them just because they don't suck up to you all of the time. And Gov Manchin, you better try to fix this or from what I can tell it may cost you the election
Posted by: RS on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:10 PM
It was quite obvious after watching the WSAZ news at 6:00PM and seeing Manchin's spokesperson, Lara Ramsburg, that nothing will be done with the WVSP administration and it will just be "business as usual". Maybe we should put that on the welcome signs instead of "open for business". I hope every member of the department, both uniformed and non-uniformed, and their extended families, remember this next year on election day.....
Posted by: To.. I know how they work on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:10 PM
Did a trooper rightfully adjust your head gear for you, take your girlfriend away from you or send you or a worthless member of your family to jail....or is it ALL OF THE ABOVE? Compared to a cop, what contribution to society do you or have you made? Go back to your pot plants and welfare checks and shut up!
Posted by: Shirley on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:02 PM
Hats off to Tom Kirk, Fred Donahoe and Gary Edgell!!!!!!!!!!!At least they came to the funeral out of respect. Shirley Lawson
Posted by: VALLEY TROOP on Jul 24, 2007 at 08:55 PM
First of all I'd like to express my heart felt condolences to the Gonzales family. I'm not sure that this is the proper venue to vent but it appears it may be necessary. Rumor in the valley today is that the Col. has called a senior staff meeting for Thursday. Once again in true form this Col. is apparently electing not to solve a problem but to sweep it around. We've heard that Capt. Phillips is to be transferred to So. Chas. and Capt. Barnette to the Pike. Many Troopers are undoubtably unhappy. Capt. Phillips has now made troopers in two 2 separate troops miserable. Forget having a solid felony arrest if you don't have your 100 tickets and your 1.2 hardbacks vs 5.8 warnings written per road patrol man hour you get no overtime. Capt. Barnette has already had his stint on the pike and thoroughly made the guys miserable. There are a few troops that have a distaste for this man so severe it could litterally come to blows. You don't solve a problem by transferring them around. Col. Lemmon should leave his enormous EGO behind and resign. The new Col . should then remove those captains and xo's (including the BCI problem 2) that are known to be the moral problem.There are so many good people out there like Capt.'s Trupo and Van Meter that we shouldn't have to settle for less. I was told yesterday that several members of the WVTA's board are nearly ready to call for the current administration to end; however, a couple appear to be dragging their feet. Please WVTA help take care of those you took an oath to.
Posted by: Bravo on Jul 24, 2007 at 08:47 PM
Posted by: Sara L: Thoughts and prayers to the children of Trooper Gonzales... and may he have touched the face of God as he was welcomed into Heaven...
Posted by: Trooper's wife on Jul 24, 2007 at 08:37 PM
You guys don't get it. Lemmon and Spears are POLITICAL appointments. Made by Manchin, he is in control of these positions as he is in control of everything in this state. Get a NEW governor next time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Nancy on Jul 24, 2007 at 08:24 PM
I want to see both investigated...to many stories on the street about his suicide..... and investigating the WVSP should not be a question.... and most of all by someone besides Spears...
Posted by: everydayjo on Jul 24, 2007 at 08:09 PM
When my husband told me about this site and the comments posted here, I just had to read a few for myself. Keep in mind that I have nothing to do with the state police, but like everyone else, have heard bad things about it's administration. Upon reading many comments left here, I noticed that many people had problems with someone named MIKE and someone named RUTH. I then proceeded to figure out who th
Posted by: Omaha Beach on Jul 24, 2007 at 07:52 PM
Take care Gonzo, you will be missed. To his family, God bless you all. To the WVSP carry on the best you can and take care of his family. To the administration, treat your people like you would want to be treated. Apparently from all the comments made, we have little confidence in your leadership and how you treat members and civilian employees.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 07:42 PM
to the one who said she was afraid of the state trooper get a life and you wont be . i love and respect each and every one of them cause it would be a bad place to live with out them and all the police officers at that matter ,if dont do a crime you have nothing to fear and they can be the best friends you could have
Posted by: kathyzachshay on Jul 24, 2007 at 07:41 PM
To DR, AG & AG: You're in our hearts & prayers. If you need ANYTHING, let us know!
Posted by: anne on Jul 24, 2007 at 07:37 PM
Please let this trooper rest in peace and the family get on with their lives. We are selfish people sometimes by letting unnecessary comments go on.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 07:37 PM
My heart and prayers go out to Gonzo's family. This is a true tragedy that we may never know everything about, however we know there problems within the ranks. Why wasn't the boot from Clay transferred instead of Gonzo? Was it because of his relationship to #13? Everyone knows of the favoritism there with a favored 1st duty station close to home, special equipment, ride alongs with #13, no chain of command for him, and so on. Then there is the rest of the mess that goes on with #1 and his lack of judgement for spending money to repair old run down facilities instead of building new, just because it is the way it was back when he was a capt. Don't forget #2 with holding on to his previous position before getting deputy superintendent so he still has charge of finances in case things go awray, as they are and he will have something to fall back on. These people are very vengeful and everyone is truely afraid of what will happen to them if they talk and are discovered. The fact is not the entire senior staff is corrupt or need replaced. There are very good people and supervisors in those ranks, such as #3. You can not find a better man or supervisor, but when your hands are tied you can not really do anything. Spears is not the person to look into this, as there is bad blood there. That may be best for what everyone wants but it is not best for the organization. Governor look at your other sources to look into this and do what is best for all. Put this to an end and bring back the morale of the GREEN.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 07:29 PM
I may not be a Trooper's wife, but I do work with them 5 days a week. I see their ups and downs with their home lives and work. You can say what you want, but until you are the one calling for their assistance don't knock them. Until you're the one sitting at home, or the office waiting on them to clear a domestic with weapons or a fight, don't bother to comment. The Colonel isn't the best I've personally seen, and I've seen 5. He doesn't give a darn about his unniformed members let alone the civilians which makes near nothing. We are not here for the money. We are the people dealing with the complaints on the phone and the office long before a Trooper ever deals with it. We're the one who takes the gripes when a Trooper has been unable to return a call when you think he should, day off or not. The WVSP does need work, but everyone has to pitch in to do it and quit pointing fingers and work. The Colonel needs to either step up...or step down and out. We're all in this together.
Posted by: R Shackleford on Jul 24, 2007 at 07:26 PM
Maybe one thing Secretary Spears may want to check while investigating the WVSP is why the administration had Cpl. Gonzales' police cruiser completely dismantled and burnt parts of the vehicle within less than 24 hours after he was dead. It's almost as if they were looking for something.....you would think something like that would have to be maintained for evidence until a destruction order was issued by a prosecuting attorney, now wouldn't you????? Maybe he should also talk to some Troopers who have been physically threatened by the T4 adminstration, and give the Troopers who give statements some kind of immunity from "persecution" by the WVSP.....Just a thought!
Posted by: Fellow LEO on Jul 24, 2007 at 06:59 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the Gonzales family in their time of need. Gods Speed Gonzo! To all of the "working troopers'...hold your heads high, and stay dilligant in working for the truth. Let Manchin know that we will not bow down to the powers that be. Col. Lemmon and the Cpt. should be held accountable. Their actions or lack there of, has made a place in history. Gov. Manchin, you owe it to the Gonzales family to look into all that has been said. Protect the integrity of the WVSP and for god's sake stand up for the working troopers that place their life on the line every day to protect our loved ones. Gonzo, we will miss you and honor you. Rest in peace buddy!
Posted by: Concerned Wife on Jul 24, 2007 at 06:22 PM
I am the wife of a WVSP Trooper and I want to express my sympathy to the family of Cpl. Gonzales. I am truly sorry for your loss and pain. I only hope that with this horrific tragedy that some questions will be answered and individuals will be held accountible for their actions. Secondly, to the Mike's, Rob's, and all of the other selfish individuals writing in to this blog with your crap and expertise. Get off this blog, get a real job, and get a dictionary. Last but certainly not least to "PRAYING FOR JUSTICE". You should do better at your research of state employees on the payroll. I personally know the Trooper in TN that you mention. This trooper was standing in the dark on a cold and rainy Thursday October night almost 5 years ago on a domestic call for help. He was shot in the head by a career criminal for doing his job. He nearly died that night as three of his fellow troopers administered aid and called for help. He went through months of rehabilitation and therapy due to this injury. I remember being called to the hospital and sitting there with his wife, family, and troopers weeping and praying for his life to be saved. So, I pray that if you ever need a help from a police officer that you receive one just like Bobby who risked his life for someone else. Today, he lives in TN with vision loss, fragments of a bullet still in his head, trouble walking and talking,but he is truly a miracle and is grateful to be alive. I am proud to call him my friend and I admire him for truly putting his life on the line. So, I don't think receiving a medical disability for being shot while protecting and serving the public is fraud. Hey, PRAYING FOR JUSTICE get your facts straight and look up the definition of fraud. Oh, I will say a prayer that you can find forgiveness for your fraudulent claims!
Posted by: Thank You on Jul 24, 2007 at 06:04 PM
Thank You WSAZ TV for doing that story, as you can see by the response you got from the Governor and Lemmon they do not want to admit there is a problem. Would you have gotten this many e-mails if there was not a problem? Thank You
Posted by: Time to take action on Jul 24, 2007 at 05:44 PM
If Manchin doesn't take the lead on this thing and get rid of Lemmon and Barnette the U.S. Justice Department is going to come in and investigate and take over the operations of the department like they did In Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. Anyone interested should contact the U.S. Department of Justice to request a consent decree on the WV State Police. http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2001/05/25/loc_investigation_of.html
Posted by: A Sgt on Jul 24, 2007 at 05:28 PM
My fellow Troopers and Friends,if anything is to be done, it will have to be done by us, it's obvious noone else will help...where is the association in all this? I guess we stand alone together. God Bless Gonzo and family!.
Posted by: Trooper on Jul 24, 2007 at 05:16 PM
This message is to Jennifer Cottrill... Cpl. Perry was assigned at the South Charleston State Police Detachment (Troop 4) also where Cpl. Gonzales was assigned. After the tragic incident Cpl. Perry has resigned his position with the State Police After 13 years of service. You may want to contact him he may be willing to tell you the truth regarding the treatment the troopers recieve by Capt. Barnett, Sgt Cox, and Sgt. Elmore. He may also tell you about the bets that they make with each other regarding the activity that the South Charleston Detachment can produce.(Like the bet they made regarding 20 DUI Arrests on the 4th of July Weekend and how the used safety check points by telling people they were checking seat belts, driver licenses and insurance which was a lie they were lokking for DUI'S to arrest. They reached their goal the arrested over 20 DUI'S from their AKA Safety Check points". Please dont let this incident go investigate Capt. Barnett, Sgt. Cox And Sgt. Elmore and they way the troopers are treated at South Charleston (Troop $ Detachment). Also ask them about the 100 contacts a month and if you dont get them the EPA you. Let them explain that one to you also. Also the 20 hour shifts that they make you work because you didnt write enough tickets. See the list go's on and on.
Posted by: IDEA on Jul 24, 2007 at 04:55 PM
Everyone should go to the new blog spot posted down below.
Posted by: CONCERNED on Jul 24, 2007 at 04:42 PM
I want to address some of the comments I have read. I believe that what the troopers are saying on this blog and the tragic and completely preventable death of Gonzo are linked. There are issues that need addressed, I hate the fact that it took the death of this good man to bring the problems to the surface. But to ignore the problems that helped push him over the edge is not honoring his memory. The family needs many things in this time of overwhelming grief, but I would like to believe that accountability and answers from those that pushed him and denied him time is also something they may want for closure and justice. I would also like to remind people that the actions of a few should not be held against the ones who wear their uniform for the right reasons. And there are many of these men out there.To the citizens who want to help, any noise that you can create until attention is truly brought to these problems is the greatest thing you can do. If you can organize a march to the capital that would be great. As said below how can a friend of Lemmons conduct an investigation ?
Posted by: FedUPTroop on Jul 24, 2007 at 04:28 PM
To "Praying for Justice", do you know anything about the Trooper that was shot and appearently still receiving a pay check. Newsflash, it is called a retirement check. I know him personally and he is retired "medically" for getting shot in the head while trying to save a woman that was being held hostage in a house by a truly deranged man that deserved to die. Maybe you should go live with Laura Rose and Larry Faircloth and let them protect you and don't call 911 anymore when you need us!!
Posted by: J on Jul 24, 2007 at 04:21 PM
Mr. Anonymous "Premiere Law Enforement Agent", you sir, are what gives the majority of Troops and bum rap. I may not wear green, but I do wear the black and gray, and the last time I checked, we all do the same job. I was going to bash youabout your "not good enough to wear it" comment, but decided you wouldn't understand anyway. Now, enough of this petty bickering, this is supposed to be about a Troop and his family, and how this administration treats Troopers, with no compassion for them or their families.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 04:16 PM
RE: I know how they work. I am a Trooper and understand that you will probably not provide a response but I would really like to know what county you live in. I have worked in four seperate counties, and have appeared in both magistrate and circuit court in these and several more. All of these counties require some type of plea or criminal conviction prior to a person being taken off to prison. By the way did you actually mean prison? Because that would imply conviction of a felony offense. Or were you just generalizing without giving proper facts. If there is a county operating under the system that you implied, I would think I would have heard about this at some point in the past years. Also, who is this person that a trooper just randomly walked up to and attacked for no apparent reason. Are they OK? Or was this just another generalization without any specific facts? By the way, I was at a resturant the other day and I saw car salesman hit on the waitress. Your probably not going to believe this, but the salesman was MARRIED! Aren't they ALL just completly worthless.
Posted by: WAKEUP on Jul 24, 2007 at 04:13 PM
Gov Machin, WAKE UP, don't pass the buck and send these problem supervisors to other locations within the State Police(Which is the current plan of action being considered). I know first hand the hell troops go through at the hands of Barnett and his followers. Sending them to another division will only assure that other troopers are subjected to the same cruel treatment that has been outlined here. For this many postings to have been made it is clear there is a problem, and as the leader of this state it is your responsibility to take steps to eliminate this problem, not just move it along for others to deal with. Be strong, do the right thing and clean up the State Police, you owe it to them, after all it is not just the public they protect, they also protect you.
Posted by: Trooper on Jul 24, 2007 at 04:06 PM
I wear green but have as much respect for blue or gray as another green. We all are striving for the same goal.
Posted by: Putnam Co Resident on Jul 24, 2007 at 04:05 PM
Are you people wanting his suicide itself investigated or just the WVSP? Carefull what you wish for. Maybe we should just let the trooper RIP.
Posted by: Want to help on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:49 PM
This is a horrible tragedy. And the thought that the SP could have done something to help this young man and sat idly by! I want to know how to help these troopers. If I have to write to the Governor or help stage a rally at the capitol to let the Governor know he's got to do something, I'll do it. We need to get this superintendent and his sidekicks outa there! Just tell me how to help and you got it. Bless the family of Trooper Gonzales and just know your in everyone's thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: Loved One of LEO on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:45 PM
Does Manchin realize that Mr. Spears has been approached several times regarding problems with State Police administration and is basically "unavailable" or doesn't respond? They need an impartial person for troopers and/or previous troopers to discuss their grievances with--not someone that is aligned with the WVSP admin.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:42 PM
I want to know how to help this trooper's family. Doesn't anyone care about the family? I went to the State Police website and there is barely even anything there about Trooper Gonzales. Does anyone know if there's a fund or something set up to help the family?
Posted by: Grateful Citizen on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:39 PM
I wanted to express my condolences to Cpl Gonzales' family. May God carry your family through this hard time. I know we have the freedom to speak whatever we want, but just because we can doesn't always mean we should. Please, please have some respect for Gonzales's family, because you know someone in the family is probably reading this stuff. This isn't the time or place to vent without regards to the family. Please use this to express respect for the fine young man who's life was tragically cut short and to let his family know we are all here for them. Does anyone know where to go to contribute to a memorial fund for the family? I just thought it would be nice if someone could post that type of information. I'm sure a lot of people would like to know what they can do to help Cpl. Gonzales's family. Please,if anyone has any information, let us all know. Thank you to all you dedicated troopers for your service and we are all behind you. May God help you all through this tragic time and keep you safe while you serve all of us. God bless Cpl Gonzales and his family.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:33 PM
WVSP--Is the PREMIERE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY in the STATE--PLEASE--YOUR JUST A TROOPER WANNA BE--COULDNT U PASS THE ACADEMY AND THEN DECIDED TO BECOME A CITY OR COUNTY OFFICER...THATS THE TRUE STORY ISNT IT---dont hate the GREEN JUST CUZ YOUR NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO WEAR IT...
Posted by: Sgts. wife on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:02 PM
to: WVSP is a punchline: You don't have any idea what your talking about! The reason the State Police isn't working nights, they don't have the man power to do it. Tell the state to issue more funds then maybe you will see more of them! As for the Camera's, it's not the S.P that want in front of the camera's that's the Sheriff's Dept. they always run if it's a Bad wreck or murder. For your information we the S.P.are the best law enforcement agency in the state!!We have always had the best training in the United States. My husband sure did take night calls and plenty of them lady, while I laid awake and wondered IF he would be back and when!! Try being awakened at 3:00 in the morning and going back to sleep. Yes, I know he chose that, BUT he thought he would be respected and not spit upon and cursed by the public, and harassased by his superiors! Sometimes if it was a murder I wouldn't see him for days!!! That is the truth, get your facts straight and get off the S.P backs!They get out there and work their tails off then people like you talk about things you know nothing about!!As far as the S.P. asking for discounts, they wouldn;t do it. They are way to much professionals to do that!! Get real!!! You will see how professional they are if you ever need them, unless you are one that is on the bad side of the fence, with drugs, etc. No one likes the police when they are doing wrong!!I am really sorry for Gonzo's family! He will be missed by his buddies!
Posted by: Troop 1 tac wife on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:01 PM
We need to be praying for the friends family and the children right now! The men and who put on green everyday are exceptional people they they might not live up to your standards, but the fact of the matter is they are all heros protecting us even when we don't deserve it. Say what you want they are brave and wonderful! We don't need to be posting things about how they are Criminals and Adulterous, we need to be Thanking God there are men and women brave enough to go out everyday and deal with the awful things in life that we couldn't begin to deal with. The ones who are posting the junk have never sat up at night wondering if the one they love is coming home or if some crazy person decided to take their life. So until you know what is is like just thank God your loved ones are safe at home with you! My thoughts and prayers are with the family.
Posted by: Get Someone Else on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:43 PM
TO INVESTIGATE! LEMMON AND SPEARS ARE BUDDIES here's proof! http://theintermountain.com/News/articles.asp?articleID=15054
Posted by: itdoesn'tmatter on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:39 PM
"A spokesperson for Governor Joe Manchin, Lara Ramsburg, says Governor Manchin asked Secretary Jim Spears, head of military affairs and public safety, to look into the matter -- and to look into what's happening on a national level with state police, troopers, and law enforcement in general." Everything will be covered up & swept under the rug
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:38 PM
To responder to how they work - Get real. Maybe in the real world you are right. But I have seen them in action. I know how they work - I've seen it. Message is correct as is. Those within the dept really do need help before it is too late.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:23 PM
But according to Sickened there is no problems. Everything is just fine in the "Open For Business State". Everything is just fine! Or is it? ?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:17 PM
To Sickened - Aren't you reading the comments from our troopers. There is obvious a big problem amoung our men that wear the green.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:04 PM
I know how they work is not alone in their feelings. One doesn't know what it is like to be beaten down by a ST until it happens to you. The organization is a disgrace to this state. Yea there are problems within headquarters, but problems are all over. Some of the comments even talk about how they would be attached by supervisors if they don't play the game - well lets turn the game off and become humans. This game is getting old! Protection should not be a game. It should be what it was meant to be - protection. There is no protection when reaching the top of the ladder is more important then the people that is supposed to be protected. Those of you in the organization that are being attacked now know what the general public feel like when they are attacked by the WVSP with no reason at all other than for that extra stripe on their uniform.
Posted by: re-i know how they work on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:01 PM
I am just wondering what type of person would post a message such as yours, on this message board. This is obviously not the right place to make allegations about the virtue of a profession or people you know nothing about. I bet you are, were, or know the person who was cleaning the blood off of the son’s face, but only because you called for the Trooper to come because the same son was beating you up. Or are you the one waving goodbye to the child going to jail with the million other jail inmates that DID NOT partake in the crime they are accused of. Or I bet at one time you were the waitress that CLAIMED you were hit on by a Trooper, married or not, just to make you look or feel better about yourself. I also guarantee you have never heard a Trooper ask for a discount, but the kind, upstanding citizen offering the Trooper a meal or something to drink, just for putting their life on the line for the protection of themselves and their children. I bet this describes you or your neighbor and I also bet the precious toes you speak of stepping on, will one day be the ones rescuing you from someone trying to harm you or a family member, working the vehicle accident you are involved in, or be the one helping carrying your groceries or asking for directions just as GONZO would’ve done. RIP and Prayers go out to the Family.
Posted by: WVSP is a punch line on Jul 24, 2007 at 01:55 PM
lets compare : the WVSP vs. the Nazi Party both are all about propaganda. WVSP is not the premiere law enforcement agency in this state. they are carried by county and municipal departments. find a trooper on duty outside of S Charleston after midnight. Putnam residents - no trooper works out of the Winfield detachment after midnight if they say they take call outs dial 911 after midnight if there aint a news camera in sight there aint a trooper in sight. from behind a bush or from behind a desk an ambush is an ambush. troopers you are part of the food chain and your superiors live by the code feed the rich and bury the poor
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 01:49 PM
Maybe ABC or NBC News needs to get in on this. If the local news isn't interested in investigating what's going on, maybe the national media needs to get involved.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 01:13 PM
Sickened - The truth is hard to see when shutters cover the eyes.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2007 at 01:08 PM
Sickened - get unsick and look around and see what actually takes place in this state by the WVSP.
Posted by: girlfriend of trooper on Jul 24, 2007 at 12:54 PM
As a girlfriend of a State Trooper: My prayers and thoughts go out to the family...when you are married, dating, or have been married to a state trooper, you live with the everyday stress when they put that green uniform on, will they return. I have the highest regards for all the people that proudly wear that uniform....and the state of WV should be more aware of those people that protect us 24 hours a day....I know what they make as a salary and I work for the state also, and I know some people in my field that make more than troopers do...what shame....take care of your own and realize how important these men and women are to us.....I truly respect and love my state trooper and am very proud of what he does - he chose this job over something else because he wanted to wear the green uniform and be proud of what he does and he is - just wake up state and take care of your own before you lose anymore.......
Posted by: sickened on Jul 24, 2007 at 12:37 PM
i know how they work- shame on you. May God be with you. I will pray for you. As far as i can tell you are alone in your thoughts. Rest in Peace Gonzo.!
Posted by: Half-Unit on Jul 24, 2007 at 12:11 PM
It's about time that the WVSP administration has been brought to everyone's attention, not just the Troopers. However, what a shame that it took a brother Troopers life to do it. GOD BLESS GONZO AND HIS FAMILY. Lemmon, I will not call him Col., for a Col. leads his men/women, not just a few on a string who have a little something on their noses, but all his men/women. A Col. treats them all the same. It should be the better man/woman gets the job, not who you know, or WHO your father is. How does one's son come so far, in so little time????? WAS IT EARNED? How can a son lead fellow Troopers when his dad is the Col. "If you don't do what I say, I'm going to tell Daddy, and you'll be in BIG trouble". Which Troopers have moved up to quickly, not because they were qualified, or had a lot of time in, but because they were a "good ole boy", who could be lead by the nose of his superiors. I wonder how some of those who have something on their noses, sleep at night, knowing how they moved up the chain. I am proud to say my hubby has nothing on his nose, nor on his arm. He does his job, and does it well I might add. He can look himself in the mirror everyday. I am a proud wife of a WV State Trooper and a very dissatisfied wife of the WVSP Department.
Posted by: an old friend on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Marlo's death is very saddening. He was a good man. Always remember him that way. To his children, your father loved you, never doubt that. Suicide is not selfish or self serving. In desperation many feel that taking thier life will be of benefit to loved ones. They feel that they are a burden and truly believe their death will be for the best. To those who are making the nasty comments remember: On Sunday there was no problem finding 6 people to carry Marlo, how are they gonna get you in the ground? Marlo, I love you. I will rember your smile and warm nature above all else. This outpooring of love, support and outrage over your death is testament to a life and to a man who has and will continue to make a difference. I'll see you when i get home.
Posted by: Comment on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Jennifer - Why don't you do a story on the wrong doings of the WVSP. I am sure that you can get more information on that part of wearing green than you can on a dead S Trooper. They are a bunch of criminals. Even the troopers writing in comments express their concerns about harm coming to them if they sign their names. Well we citizens are more afraid to sign our names. If we don't walk that straight line - we find ourself being beating to a pulp or even worse in prison for something that we did not do. Forget the dead work for the living - - - -
Posted by: E-mail it too!! on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:50 AM
In addition to the suggestion by "Mail IT," there is a link just above the title at the top of this page that will e-mail this article. Why don't we also fill up as many mailboxes as possible. Here are a few I could find: Manchin (governor@wvgov.com), Lemmon (troopers@wvstatepolice.com), The Charleston Gazette (http://www.cnpapers.com/phonebook/message.php?id=546), and The Herald Dispatch (news@heralddispatch.com).
Posted by: KR on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:50 AM
All of our members who desire a change needs to bring the rain down on this administration. If we let this moment pass our opportunity to cause change will be lost. A call for accountability needs to be screamed over the wall of silence so that everyone hears it. Let us Honor Gonzos memory by not just speaking words but creating action. Civilians who are reading this blog can help as well. If we are all sincere in wanting accountability and change, I say we call our Governor,senators, the media and anyone willing to listen. If we don't stand then things will continue as they are. If the guys could band together and say they refuse to accept this leadership and want change ,then change will come. It is time to take back the department and make it what it was intended to be.
Posted by: shophand on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:44 AM
I see alot of things that go on at Troop4 and it's shocking. Just when you think things can't worse they do we're beat down and overworked. Lt. Frye is the one the use to do their dirty work. He is the Troop 4 yes man. He will do anything they tell him too.
Posted by: I know how they work on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:42 AM
This is really getting disgusting. The SP are not worth even comments. They deserve what they get. Just ask the mother next door that had to clean the blood off her son's face from the beating of a ST. Or ask the parents of their child that they just had to say goodbye to as he was taken to prison for a crime that he did not partake of. Ask the waitress that was just hit on by a married trooper. Ask how much of a discount the troopers request when they eat out - and expect. This organization is made up of criminals that don't get caught. Who turns in the wrong doings of ST - the kid that was just beat up, the one that was just laid to rest or the one that ended up in prison for something that he did not do. Worthless - I hope someone does come in and investigates this organization. Maybe then we can live in peace. If state troopers won't even sign their name out of fear think about us common people. We don't want beat up, laid to rest or end up in prison because we stepped on their precious toes. They are getting exactly what they have been dishing out.
Posted by: Jennifer Cottrill on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:29 AM
Hello! My name is Jennifer Cottrill. I'm a reporter at WSAZ in Charleston. I'm working on a story today regarding the petition that was mentioned in our comments section. If anyone would like to speak out (on camera) about this, please give us a call today. Please call the Charleston newsroom at (304) 340-4646.
Posted by: WSAZ on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:20 AM
Get a list of the men and women who have quit in the State Police under this administration. Then narrow it down to the men and women who have quit in Troop 4. Add this tragedy into the mix and you will see a trend... starting from when Col Lemmon took over. I just keep saying that something good will come from Gonzo's tragedy.......What a great way to remember and honor him.
Posted by: a left behind wife on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:19 AM
First and fore most my thoughts and prayers are with the family. I too am a wife left behind because of suicide. I will never know what went through my husbands head the night that he took his life. All the questions wondering what was so bad that he didn't think we could work thur it. My sorrow is for the children, just always remember that your father was a good man and loved you alot and that gossip is just that. And I find it hard to read some of these comments. If so many of you knew that it was so bad in the WVSP then why did it take this tragedy for you to speak up. Again my symphany to his family. Time will heal the hurt but questions will always linger.
Posted by: Resp. Had Enough on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:11 AM
Well put and I appreciate the comment. Thanks.
Posted by: COOK,KNIT,SEW on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:04 AM
YOU "WIFES" TALKING ABOUT YOUR TROOPER HUSBAND OR MILITARY HUSBAND...JUST SHUT UP. LET THE TROOPS,FRIENDS AND FAMILY DISCUSS ISSUES AND HONOR THE MAN. JUST....SHUT UP.
Posted by: from Clay on Jul 24, 2007 at 11:03 AM
I, too am in total shock of this tragedy. I knew Gonzo and could not believe the news when i heard it. My prayers go out to his family and to his fellow State Troopers. only him and God know what he was thinking. God bless all of our Troopers and if all of what we are all reading is true, get them all help before it is too late for another. Gonzo worked in Clay and he was missed when word got around that he had been transferred. RIP Gonzo. also- you will be remembered as a hero. especially if something is done with the FOLD-as others put it.
Posted by: Jamie on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:14 AM
I am so sorry to hear about this You were a GREAT MAN very well liked I went to school by the courthouse right beside where you worked in 2002 You always spoke to us kids at lunch and if you caught us outside you always spoke My brother shot himself in 2002 Miss him soo much My prayers are with your family I know how hard it is to go through this GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY YOU WERE A GREAT GUY
Posted by: Vivian B on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:11 AM
My heart and my prayers go out to the children of Trooper Gonzales and to his ex wife and to his present wife. I meant no disrespect. I was just wondering as many of us are about why all the blame is dirrected toward WVSP and its administration. The Troopers chose to be troopers just as my husband chose to be a Marine (not in the reserves as it has been said). And I chose to mary that marine and all that comes with that. And I agree with may of you the Flags should be at half staff. And regardless of how he died, I beleive he is sitting at Gods table now.
Posted by: TrooperTruth on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:04 AM
Dictators ride to and fro upon tigers which they dare not dismount. And the tigers are getting hungry. - Winston Churchill
Posted by: CLAY CO. on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:18 AM
I AM FROM CLAY COUNTY. I KNOW FOR SURE THAT TROOPERS GET TRANSFERRED FOR PUNISHMENT-NOT HAVING ENOUGH CONTACTS IS THE BIGGIE. WE LAWBIDING CITIZENS WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THE PEOPLE ON DRUGS, THE THIEVES, AND THE JUST PLAIN OLE BAD GUYS ARRESTED RATHER THAN BE PULLED OVER BECAUSE OF A DEFECTIVE BRAKE LIGHT AND I KNOW THE TROOPERS WOULD MUCH RATHER BE ARRESTING BAD GUYS THAN SITTING IN THEIR CRUISERS HOPING FOR SOMEONE TO GO BY THEM WITH AN EXPIRED MVI. I HAVE FRIENDS IN THE WVSP AND I HEAR THEIR PROBLEMS. GONZO WAS NOT TRANSFERRED BECAUSE OF SHORTNESS DUE TO MILITARY DEPLOYMENT. IT WAS PUNISHMENT . SAME WITH ANOTHER TROOPER FROM CLAY THAT GOT TRANSFERRED TO SOUTH CHARLESTON-FOR LACK OF ACTIVITY-THEN WHILE HE WAS THERE DONE SOMETHING-(OR DIDN'T DOSOMETHING-THEY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT- AND GOT ANOTHER 30 DAYS IN THE HOLE (SOUTH CHARLESTON). AND LEMMON AND BARNETT ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO PUSHED GONZO TOO FAR. LOOK AT SEARGEANT COX-HE IS THE ONE WHO PUSHED FOR THE TRANSFER TO HAPPEN- HE CAME TO CLAY AND THANK GOD HE LEFT. REST IN PEACE GONZO-AND TO ALL THE OTHER TROOPERS- I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU!!!! WEAR YOUR GREEN PROUDLY. AS FOR COX-STAY OUT OF CLAY COUNTY-WE DONT LIKE YOU.
Posted by: Mail IT on Jul 24, 2007 at 08:02 AM
Someone pointed this site out to me and I have to say I was overwhelmed by all the comments about the condition of the state police. It is also very apparent that the employees of the state police are extremely afraid of retaliation from their administration and feel there is no other way to vent their frustration and discord. It seems to me your answer may be right in front of your eyes. You can remain anonymous and get your point across very clearly and loudly by printing all these comments and mailing them to the Governor, Colonel Lemmon, the Charleston Gazette, your local newspaper(s), TV stations, your (or all) state representatives and anyone else who you think may make a difference. It may cost you a few dollars, but if the state police are in the condition represented by these comments it would be well worth a few of your dollars. Remember though, if the Governor’s office, Colonel’s office, etc. only get ten copies it will show your administration that there are only a few people upset. If they get five hundred it would speak volumes. Then, just maybe, the governor will listen to you. Governor Joe Manchin III, 1900 Kanawha Boulevard, E., Charleston, WV 25305.
Posted by: a member on Jul 24, 2007 at 07:07 AM
First my thoughts and prayers go to the Gonzales Family. Second Ruth Lemmon it is a disgrace that you have responded only when you were embarrassed by “cowards” does the truth hurt that much. You could care less about the morale of the department or the stress caused by your husband. If you were really concerned about the department and the troopers (including your son) you would ask your husband to retire. Then you could concentrate on your political career and car show. I have never seen anything like this in my 20 years. Everyone knows there is definitely a problem and who it is. This forum is the only way the troopers can be heard until the media gets involved.
Posted by: Craig on Jul 24, 2007 at 06:13 AM
Respectfully, I would hope that from all the comments posted including answers to my own postings, that people aren't as expandable as all the postings seem to say we are. The least for this trooper could have been the flags flown at half staff. They have been flown for a lot less. The military, police, correctional officers should be given a little bit more respect. They certainly didn't choose the job for the glamour of it all.
Posted by: Just A Passer By on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:56 AM
My prayers are with the family, friends & loved ones left behind by Gonzales. And I can not forget my prayers are with each and every one of you fine State Police. I say Thank You for your job because I know if you're not out stopping someone for speeding, catching criminals or even going to work without pay, you're atleast working on a case at some point. With all of the Troopers who are making their voice heard anonymous, I do not blame you one bit. But when time comes, I do hope & pray that you all stick together. And to the people who said for the Troopers to find another job if they can't handle it - if they all would quit, who would save your rear-end when needed? Or maybe most of you who "complained" don't use 911 or *SP - so be it, but there will come a time that you will have to, and you can take that to the bank!
Posted by: No one important on Jul 24, 2007 at 03:48 AM
My prayers & thoughts are with not only the Gonzales family, but to all of the proud men and women who wear the green. It does take a special person to wear it! I've read each and every comment and it took me a long while. I've seen very few who said "thanks", that really isn't surprising to me. But I will say Thank You to all of the LEO's (city, county, state) - you do your best, that's all you can do, and know that there are a lot of civilians/brothers/sisters who pray for you each and everyday. And again, Thank You!
Posted by: tryingtohelp on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:32 AM
okay, everyone, here's a link to a petition to Governor Manchin, please read and sign it, let's leave this area for comments for Trooper Gonzales' family, let's respect him and band together. Also, I've opened up another blog for a place to vent. http://timeforwvspadminchange.blogspot.com/ Don't give up Troops, Don't give up. http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WVSP You do not have to put your real name!
Posted by: CC on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:00 AM
God Bless Corporal Gonzales, may he rest in peace. I have read all of these comments and it is sickening to hear how bad things are where this brave man worked. A friend of mine is a trooper and works the turnpike. I hear his stories of how their captain harrasses and torments her troopers. She only gives over time to the suck troopers who write the most tickets. He told me that he used to arrest alot of drunks but that takes most of his shift and he wouldn't get enough tickets that way. Let the drugs and drunks go on down the road. He explained to me how the system works, the governor picks the colonel who in turn picks the captains. I guess the colonel made another bad choice with the captain on the turnpike. He is just full of bad choices.
Posted by: Green Giant on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:50 PM
First, I want to say I am saddened about this tragedy. I pray for the family and friends left behind. It is upsetting to see all the negative comments made, some true, some false. I do wear the green uniform of the WVSP, and am proud of it. To be a Trooper you have to wear many hats, at times you have to be stern, at times you have to be compassionate. It is a job one cannot comprehend, even military personnel, because there are multiple functions and emotions you have to deal with in a matter of seconds that cannot always be handled by force. There is a problem with the WVSP, people have forgotten where they came from, and how the State Police used to be. It is about standing up and supporting the Trooper beside you, it is not about screwing the Trooper over to advance in a good old boy promotional system. Changes need to be made, and hopefully this tragedy can bring the brightness of a new day for the WVSP. "Troopers" lets not be divided and conquered lets come together and stand strong.
Posted by: A Friend on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:47 PM
I first want to say that "ye who are without sin cast the first stone" no one will ever truly know what Gonzo was thinking that night.So I think that it is wrong to say anything bad about him. We (the community) have lost a good friend, and trooper. My thought are prayers are with his family.
Posted by: Wendy on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:37 PM
Why ? SHOULDN'T THIS BE INVESTIGATED BY OTHER SOURCES? SOMETHING IS TERRIBLE WRONG WITH THE STATE POLICE IN WVA. THIS IS A DISGRACE GONZOLES WAS ONE OF THE BEST TROOPERS IN THE WORLD. I DON'T BEFIEVE HE SHOT HIMSELF. I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE POLICE OFFICIERS THAT DO DIRTY DEEDS FROM ORDERS FROM HIGHER UPS. MANCHIN YOU NEED TO DO YOUR JOB FOR ONCE AND PUT A STOP TO ALL OF THE ILLEGAL GOINGS ON IN WES VIRGINIA.
Posted by: Military & Trooper's Wife on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:36 PM
I want to address the wives of the military and troopers posting here... Many wives of troopers have in-fact watched there husbands leave for military tours overseas with the reserves or guard... Each is equally painful - my husband has also done a tour - each in their own right is difficult and they relate - I can say I missed my husband dearly while he was overseas... But I worry about him every time he leaves for work. Have you every had your tires flattened or windshield busted out as a military wife? Now Explain to me this scenario - If killed in action in a war over seas vs. killed in action at home by another blue blooded American...Explain that to a child??? Each service also looses members to self inflicted wounds which to often occur with each groups of servicemen. I hope you all read the Sunday Gazette??? Overseas military servicemen have more of a comradery and people stick together even the upper echelon because you know your enemy... The enemy stateside wears many types of clothing including uniforms. Relate to each other and quit trying to one up the other. They all serve and protect and deserve to be recognized…
Posted by: Army Wife on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:35 PM
First off,My heart felt thoughts and prayers go out to the family. It is sad when someone takes their own life. But, we don't always know their situation. Second, For all the Idiots that are using this sad event and website to attack the governor, state troopers and each other, YOU seriously need to grow up and mature ALOT!!! I believe in freedom of speech, but remember you did not get your Freedom for Free. Men like MY husband have fought and died for it. So the next time you want to put down our Governor, Policemen, Fireman and especially our Military, think first. At night when you put your children to bed, kiss your spouse goodnight and lay your head on your pillow and go to sleep, there is someone out there protecting you. Police at home and Soldiers away. Again, Thank you Corporal Gonzales for you service, may you rest in peace. To the family you are in my thoughts and prayers. And to all the idiots, try serving OUR COUNTRY, and you might have a more patriotic and compassionate attitude. Because in my opinion your disgraceful tounge ranks you about as low as a terrorist!!!!!
Posted by: Nancy on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:27 PM
I HAVE READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND I FOR ONE MUST SAY THAT GONZO WAS THE FINEST,TROOPER I HAVE EVER MET. WE CERTAINLY NEED MORE TROOPERS LIKE GONZO . MAY GOD BLESS HIS FAMILY.
Posted by: another reply to Vivian B on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:08 PM
I'm sure there are support sites for military wives should you need to vent about stress related to your situation. I pray that your husband returns to you safely. It is not within the realm of possibility for Mrs. Angel Gonzales. I am amazed at your tact, or should I say, lack thereof, in pointing out that this didn't happen in the police station driveway and what kind of message you feel that sends. How can you even pretend to know what message Trooper Gonzales wanted to convey??? As for him being outside his "assigned area"... how petty in the grand scheme of things. So many people are hurting. Comments like yours add to the hurt. God bless Angel, Adam, Aaron, Jacob and the entire family, including the GREEN.
Posted by: Jewell on Jul 23, 2007 at 10:51 PM
May God comfort and love Gonzo, and his loved ones!! I have heard nothing but good about Gonzales!! Only wish I had known him!!
Posted by: Fellow Law Enforcement Officer on Jul 23, 2007 at 10:50 PM
As a fellow law enforcement offier I know the Pain all of you are going throuh as we too have just lost one of ours. I would like to say that these comments are here to express your thoughts and cares for the family and not here to beat everyone up and the family definitely doesn't need it that is for sure. For I know that this is true due to the loss of our Deputy people had the nerve to stop as low as they did, and say bad things and as I have said, "It wasn't the time for it" and again this is not the way to talk behind peoples back. If you have something neative to say then don't say anything at all. But my thoughts and prayers go out to the family most of all but also his fellow Troopers, May God Bless You All.
Posted by: Adam, Aaron and Jacob on Jul 23, 2007 at 10:43 PM
fellows,even though we work alone, your father will always ride "shotgun" with us. God bless you and you know who you can come to if you need anything
Posted by: To another Militray wife on Jul 23, 2007 at 10:36 PM
Same thing, many troopers are returning from their SECOND tour in Iraq. Your husband joined the reserves for extra money expecting the "one weekend a month" Surprise...........he's earning his money now. Many of our wifes have the double stress. Come back from Iraq and back on the front lines here to protect you.
Posted by: To Vivian B on Jul 23, 2007 at 10:32 PM
Many of these troopers are returning from their SECOND tour. Your husband joined the reserves for extra beer money and now he needs to ear