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Posted: 5:59 PM Aug 21, 2007
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The West Virginia Council of Churches announced that it is going to ask for a recount in the Kanawha County table games election.

Reverend Dennis Sparks made the announcement just before 6pm Tuesday.

The deadline to ask for a recount was 7pm Tuesday.

The issue, whether or not to allow table games in Kanawha County, passed with a 343 vote margin after the August 11th election.

The other group against the issue says it won't challenge the results. West Virginia Family Foundation president, Kevin McCoy, says he doesn't believe a recount will change the results.

"We believe for financial resources and also to how it was done here Friday, there is no need for a recount," said McCoy.

Kanawha County Commissioner Kent Carper has said all along a recount would not change the outcome of the election -- especially when last week's canvass caused the "yes" side's lead to jump by more than three hundred votes.

"We need to concentrate on the one thousand new permanent jobs," said Carper. "We need to concentrate on the 65 million dollars of construction money that will be here and how this will develop this part of the county."

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Posted by: sonny on Aug 29, 2007 at 04:48 PM
i think its sad that people would rather hold on to fairy tales and old books rather than look to the future and see what this will do for the whole area.there is a new generation comming up who understands if yu wants things done and want to help people you have to do it and not sit around asking some faceless entity to fix everything for you.
Posted by: Dr. Evil on Aug 23, 2007 at 11:24 PM
stevet: You mention the Tamarack? hahaha It can't support itself now. Are you suggesting we subsidize Tristate like we do the Tamarack too? Please show me where 65% of the money at Tristate is from out of the area - without using their propaganda. I will ask again, one more time, stevet. If you have any answers, please post. Why were other casinos and other forms of amusement not brought on board to create this "destination resort"? Why is the Daily Mail now reporting that Tristate is going back to the drawing board for the hotel, and the county is "concerned" that the infrastructure can support it? This state's system of back room deals is known to everyone except the people who live here. Please read the article in the Daily Mail before you spew your nonsense.
Posted by: Greg on Aug 23, 2007 at 05:02 PM
All my life I have heard christain people use the phrase "Gods will" this "God will" that. Well maybe these christain folks should practice what they preach and use their TAX FREE money on something useful. Maybe it was Gods will that the vote passed.
Posted by: Carol on Aug 23, 2007 at 11:08 AM
I agree with Let It Go! The dog track and slot machines have been there for a long time, what diffenence does table games make? Preacher, I think you are just grandstanding and you are sending out the wrong message to would be christians. I suggest you spend some time alone with God and re-evaluate what you are doing.
Posted by: stevet on Aug 23, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Maybe Dr Evil should spend more time in the real world than just on the computer. There is not problem in building the casino, except for the churches, now gambling on a recount - that is holding everything up. 65% of the current business at Tri State comes from outside this area, and yes we hope people passing through stop, just like the Tamarack or anyother spot in WV. It is amazing how people can just flap their jaws and know not what they speak of. If Dr Evil would come out from under his computer he could've seen where there is a conference center, 65oo seat event arena, 250 room hotel, spa's, pools, and specialty shops... hmmm sounds like a destintation resort to me.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 23, 2007 at 10:58 AM
Actually, you're not SUPPOSED to separate church & state. Seventh grade civics class shows that's nowhere in the constitution. And before you start pulling out letters from Thomas Jefferson, I advise you to read Washington's farewell address. You talk about church groups "dictating" law? Separation of church & state is "making up" law. Of the people, by the people, & for the people. Churches are made up of people, just like casino lobbies, unions, & "centers" for policy.
Posted by: teresa on Aug 23, 2007 at 10:41 AM
How many people bought lottery tickets last night? Thats a gamble also isn't it
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 23, 2007 at 09:18 AM
I disagree with gambling, but I truely believe that if you are a good christian person you are not going to participate in any way. Let the sinners be sinners. Its not like the whole world is not already corupt, whats one more place to add to the long list of places to serve the devil.
Posted by: ME on Aug 22, 2007 at 10:19 PM
EXACTLY RIGHT !!! MAKE A WAGER OF 300, GET YOUR HAND DEALT, THEN TOSS AWAY 15,000 MORE IF U LOOSE SOUNDS LIKE GAMBLING TO ME ALSO ..ALSO ON THE DOWNFALL OF FAMILIES, HAS ANY ONE ELSE SEEN PEOPLE BUY A BUNCH OF GROCERIES WITH FOOD STAMPS THEN WHIP OUT A BIG ROLL OF CASH AND BUY LOTTERY TICKETS ----- DUH NOT RIGHT !!! SPLIT THE POT, BINGO, RAFFLES,CHANCES ON GAMES AT WORK , U CAN GO ON AND ON WITH THINGS THAT ARE GAMBLING . ALL THIS MONEY IS NOT GAMBLING ?????? JUST WONDERING
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:48 PM
i thought the same thing, denise. they are now gambling with "someones" $15,000!
Posted by: pam on Aug 22, 2007 at 04:00 PM
WASTE of Money at least Kevin has his head on straight....Way to go Kevin
Posted by: jtb on Aug 22, 2007 at 01:39 PM
i belive the church group should stick to their purpose saving souls instead of spending someones else money thats exactly whats wrong with religeon today they get involved in politics n everything else that goes aganist THEIR belifes n try to cram their belifes on everybody else throats GIVE UP YA SORE LOSERS YOUR EGO HAS BEEN DEFLATED JTB
Posted by: Shelley on Aug 22, 2007 at 12:43 PM
I thought we were supposed to seperate church and state. Why is a church council trying to dictate law. Aren't we fighting in Iraq right now to copmbat just that ideal. I guess we don't uphold these ideals for ourselves, just Iraq!
Posted by: Kellie on Aug 22, 2007 at 11:30 AM
wow, can they actually go a sunday with out putting there money in the offering plate for this?? Why dont you waste the money on prizes for Bingo. At least someone old could use the money since THE TABLE GAMES SUPPORT THE ELDERY!!!!!!!! geeze...this is why i dont attend church! all hypocrites!!!
Posted by: green on Aug 22, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Quit pulling an Al Gore. It's over. I'm afraid we must accept it.
Posted by: Tim Smith on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:48 AM
If the church is so against table games then they should stop having bingo in church since technically this is also a form of gambling. If the state should not be allowed to profit from gambling then the church should not either.
Posted by: teresa on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:20 AM
To the churches of Kanawha Co. Why don't you just let the issue of the table games drop and use your money for better things, like supporting local youth groups, local police in controlling crime, getting drugs off the street and saving souls. The people of Kanawha Co have spoken, they want the table games. I live in Cabell Co and I want to see the table games. Not everyone that goes there or works there are the spawn of Satan. It keeps a roof over my head, and food on my table and things are just going to get better. Yes , we may never be a great vaction destination spot, but we can offer, skiing packages, golf packages and white water rafting packages just to name a few. That will bring in more money to the state for all to profit from and again it puts more people to work. Our factories and other industeries are dying away so we as West Virginians must do something!!!!!!
Posted by: bill on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:19 AM
I beleive that the group that is asking for the recount better keep good records of the money they spend or they could find churchs being taxed do to miss use of tax deductible funds.
Posted by: Dr. Evil on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:11 AM
D-rock: So you think one lousy casino is going to make Cross Lanes a destination resort. I'm sure everyone that would normally travel to Vegas, Atlantic City, et al will change their plans and come to Cross Lanes. Please show me any place where one casino creates a "destination resort". Locals will go, but not people with real money to spend. People like having options - unless they are from WV. WV gov't has always tried to protect friends and cronies by limiting competition. As far as the water park, it was an example (i.e. was not a typo). Whenever a developer wants to get approval for a new shopping center or mall, guess what - they have stores and business signed on in order to generate interest and show that they are sincere in developing the economic climate. Like I said before, gambling is not the problem - slots and dog racing are already available, why limit tables? The problem is lying politicians and back room negotiations to protect crony interests.
Posted by: Barry on Aug 22, 2007 at 08:51 AM
get over it people!!!! YOU LOST!!!! you dont get to keep counting untill you win!
Posted by: Harry on Aug 22, 2007 at 08:20 AM
Why waste time on this issue? Why not devote your time contacting the people who do not attend church? How many people who are not attending your churches have you phoned? I feel this is just a grand-stand for a certain preacher. Just something for him to get involved in for the publicity. Let's get back to the separation of church and state. You wouldn't want the state to get involved with the churches business. Remember, the christian whom you have helped save, won't partake in the gambling anyhow. How about the gambling, sex, and violence in Jefferson? It was there before the 'dog-track'.
Posted by: Greg on Aug 22, 2007 at 07:31 AM
It think we should have another election! A "YES or NO" election to revoke the tax exemption of the church. That is why they don't care to take a gamble on losing $13,000 to $15,000, not only do they have the money but they have never had to pay a tax on it like the working and/or business class.
Posted by: denise on Aug 22, 2007 at 06:14 AM
IS IT NOT FUNNY THAT THE VERY PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE THE RACE TRACK EXPANSION ARE NOW "GAMBLING" THEMSELVES? AFTER ALL POSTING 300.00 UP FRONT WITH A POSSIBLE COST OF $13,000 - $15,000 SEEMS LIKE A GAMBLE TO ME-YOUR ODDS ARE 50/50.
Posted by: D-rock on Aug 22, 2007 at 12:47 AM
via Dr. Evil - "the problem lies in the fact that other casinos would see that no potential exists for a resort destination, or that the Tristate wants a monopoly". Really? who said that exactly? Any sources you could cite for me? You could be half right, I'm sure Waves of Fun was sorely disappointed that the casino is not moving forward with your indoor water park idea. How come none of these churches have rallied against the dogtrack in the past? Is it alright for people to bet on dogs and spend hours in front of a slot machine but a sin to double down on eleven? Would someone sort that one out for me? Boo recount, boo
Posted by: LLS on Aug 21, 2007 at 11:32 PM
I agree with Kevin!! If they are all about helping people, send that money to a shelter for the needy instead of waisting it on TABLE GAMES!! Get over it!
Posted by: Arlene Gartin on Aug 21, 2007 at 11:14 PM
I believe the chuch was in goodwill in fighting gambling,But that money should have went for the comunity Instead of trying to make a political statement.
Posted by: Jason on Aug 21, 2007 at 10:50 PM
Again, another example of the right trying to stop anything that doesn't conform to their beliefs.
Posted by: Let It Go!! on Aug 21, 2007 at 10:44 PM
I wish those involved in this church issue would stop even once to realize the greater impact their actions have caused. Many struggle with their religious beliefs and the self - centered arrogance of a few in connection to the church is going to impact many. You shouldn't have been involved in this issue in the first place and definitely shouldn't be wasting good money continuing this soap opera saga.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 21, 2007 at 10:09 PM
Sore losers!
Posted by: Dr. Evil on Aug 21, 2007 at 08:49 PM
I laugh every time I hear someone call this a "destination resort". Ha Ha. According to the Daily Mail, Tristate is already expressing difficulties in building the hotel. If this was truly about creating a destination stop, the powers that be would have enlisted several casino operators and some form of indoor amusements (water parks, etc) to lobby for the passage. The problem lies in the fact that other casinos would see that no potential exists for a resort destination, or that the Tristate wants a monopoly. Based on WV politics, I would say probably both. Very few people visit Tristate from out of the area (i.e., WV, KY, OH) unless they are already passing through.
Posted by: Kevin on Aug 21, 2007 at 08:35 PM
Maybe the coucil should devote their money to helping people instead of wasting it.
Posted by: Buddy on Aug 21, 2007 at 07:57 PM
Just put it to bed already.
Posted by: donna on Aug 21, 2007 at 06:43 PM
yes i just dont know about churches these days.they ask for a recount for table games they are wasted their time so please get over it.i am glad that table games are coming to kanawha.to me there should be no recount keep the table games in.
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