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Posted: 8:51 PM Mar 27, 2008
Last Updated: 8:51 PM Mar 27, 2008
Reporter: Randy Yohe
Email Address: randy.yohe@wsaz.com

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HUNTINGTON, WV (WSAZ)--Historians say if you look in the very first issue of Smithsonian Magazine, you will find an article on the Indian Head Rock. Going on two centuries later, the two state fight over the big river rock, which is now on dry land, takes a new twist tomorrow.

That’s when a Kentucky lawyer begins presenting his theft case against an Ohio recovery team.

Mary Webb is one of many in Portsmouth who remembers her grandparents telling stories of a popular Ohio tourist attraction around the year 1900 that would rise up when the river was low.

“They would carve their initials,” Webb said.

Those old stories inspired Ohioan Steve Shaffer to form a recovery team and haul up the eight ton rock, all to make a dream come true.

“I heard about it as a sixth grader in a man’s book,” Shaffer said.

Susan Fields is with the Army Corps of Engineers and says the Ohio recovery team took the rock from Kentucky waters without state or federal permission, violating a federal law from 1899.

“The rock was moved without proper authority under the Rivers and Harbors Act,” Fields said.

“I had no idea,” Shaffer said. “It’s just a rock with graffiti.”

Kentucky Commonwealth Attorney Cliff Duvall is preparing state criminal charges regarding what he says was a registered Kentucky state artifact illegally removal. He says Shaffer violated Kentucky’s Antiquity Act, a felony with penalties from one to five years in prison. Duvall would not talk on camera but did send an email stating he would enforce the law.

“I heard I might go to prison,” Shaffer said.

And what do average Joe’s and Jane’s from Ohio say about this rock and a hard place predicament?

Tangled, cross state legal wrangling will keep Portsmouth Mayor Jim Kalb from testifying before the grand jury Friday. But Duvall will still begin presenting his case against the alleged rock thieves.

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Posted by: Ruth on May 10, 2008 at 12:46 AM
I believe that many are missing a vital aspect of this situation. Had Steven Shaffer not brought this historical landmark to the surface, it may have been lost to all of us. The destructive forces of nature and pollution would certainly have eroded it beyond recognition. Very few people were even aware of its existence. Had the citizens of KY been that interested or concerned, wouldn't it have been placed in an area for all to appreciate long before now? This man cared enough to invest his own time and money to achieve a dream of his since childhood.

Posted by: the rock on May 4, 2008 at 08:16 PM
I am gone to let obama and clinton carry the rock back to the river one drops its side first looses.than bill clinton can jump up and say ,i did not have sex with that rock.this is for the ones stold the rock. suck in your bellys.eat more buckeyes.I also know where they are another rock is at it is a horse head carved.in a big rock.on the ky side over looking.the one the fat boys took.I wont tell where it is at.

Posted by: rolling stone on May 4, 2008 at 08:01 PM
Its time for jenny crag.to meny pot belley took the rock.they were proud of stealing the rock.they need to look in the mirrow.see if they are proud of what they see.look like they ate the 8 ton rock.help call jenny crag.or we will haft to call them pot belly pigs .my guess they might haft to hand carry it back. to its resting place.

Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 6, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Break the rock into half give one half to Ohio and The other half to Kentucky thats a the maost simplest solution ive came up with yet

Posted by: ARMY MOM on Apr 3, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Since the garbage wasn't listed in the Smithsonian Institution's first publication, "Ancient Monuments of the Mississippi Valley" in 1848, The Commonwealth of KY really wouldn't have a basis for dibs on it, so if someone wanted to scheme for a couple of years on trash removal...there wouldn't be a problem taking it all to Portsmouth. Property ownership is based on land. The rock was resting on soil under the river's waters. It was not flowing,swimming,or floating in the water. Fish flow with the river's waters, but cannot be legally removed without permission, which can be obtained from either state as KY and OH share the river's water and natural resources and benefit from revenue collected as a result hunting/fishing liscense sales and public water dispersal. With privilege comes responsibility, so both states should be equally concerned with protecting our shared natural resources. Again, these are interesting and valid issues that have no correlation with the issue of the rock.

Posted by: Rob on Apr 3, 2008 at 09:47 AM
Qauck buckeyse need to stay on there side of the river and stop stealing. I will go one more they need to put toll booths up on the ohio side and make them pay if they want to come over here. STAY OVER THERE WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE.

Posted by: mark on Apr 2, 2008 at 07:05 PM
if kentucky owns the river then they own all the garbage that flows down the river also so they should clean it up too.

Posted by: ARMY MOM on Apr 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM
I cannot belive that there are so many people outside the scope of reason, who are so quick to post comments, most on an elementary level, who apparently have no idea of the gravity of this situation! As many as five felonies have been committed under KY law and our prosecuting attorney, Cliff Duvall should loose his job, if he pursues this? It is not an "out-dated" law that has been broken. Wallace Wilkinson updated our laws regarding removal of artifacts as recent as 1976. To me it is beside the point, what the object in question may be. It is the principle of the matter that is at stake. If you would happen across an object of great value on say, a public street with no way of knowing who it may belong to is one thing, but if you would go on private property, into someone's house and take one of their possessions that is just wrong, no mater who you are. John Stuart Mill said: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse." He also said: "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

Posted by: Stone stupid on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:14 AM
What a waste of time and money, I can't believe a buch of (adults?) are fighting over a stupid ruck. The jails and courts are overcrowded as it is and there is an elderly couple that is missing and still has not been found. I just can not believe how ignorant some people can be, why don't you just break the rock in two pieces and each state get half of it? Or put the rock dead in the middle so that each state has exactly half of it. I thought I had heard it all until now, this is crazy!

Posted by: DUH on Mar 30, 2008 at 10:17 PM
To many hungry, homeless people in both states to be fighting over a rock that most people have never heard of before now. I've lived in KY for 36 years and never heard of it.

Posted by: SOME1 on Mar 30, 2008 at 04:43 PM
I KNOW SOME ONE WHO SAID THEY WOULD BUY THAT OLD ROCK FOR 1 MILLION DOLLAR . READY TO SALE?

Posted by: Larry Dodrill on Mar 30, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Why don't all the people agree to put a monument coming out of the water in the spot where the rock was and set the rock on top of it above the water for all to look at. Perhaps put a fence up around it to keep it protected. That would be what I suggest. Larry Dodrill, Jefferson, Georgia.

Posted by: Joe Stein on Mar 30, 2008 at 10:45 AM
hello buckeyes... ;-) i saw this story on my local news a few weeks ago. and well i thought how silly.. we here in NKY have a love hate relationship with our counterparts in ohio. we love to poke fun at one another. lets all get together and share this landmark.. i propose that kentucky provide a old barge to place it on, floating above its former location.. then ohio and portsmouth can maintain the dock and parking lot.. With this we can set good examples of proper behavior on sharing.. and sixth graders from ohio, kentucky and west virginia for that matter.. can have a new place for field trips... sincerly Joe Stein p.s. UK UK UK.... OSWHO?? ... ;-)

Posted by: MONICA on Mar 30, 2008 at 01:45 AM
SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME IF KENTUCKY WANTED THIS ROCK SO BAD TO BEGIN WITH WHY WERENT THEY LOOKING FOR IT ?? SEEMS TO ME THAT KY IS JUST MAD CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE FOUND IT AND NOW THEY WANT IT BACK AFTER SOMEONE ELSE HAS DONE THE HARD WORK !! I SAY OHIO DONE THE WORK OHIO SHOULD KEEP IT !! AT LEAST ITS SOMEWHERE THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY IT !! COME ON NOW, GROW UP KENTUCKY LETS WORRY ABOUT THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER !!

Posted by: ken on Mar 30, 2008 at 01:11 AM
its a stupid rock with no significant value of history to me! a bunch of people in the community carved their names on it back in the 1900's. so i will carve my name on a rock and hope someone finds it so i can get some publicity too 100 years later! these states have spent more time arguing over this rock rather than doing something for the people of their cities and states.so when a person that is a part of actual history is found on the rock then it might be a little different, kind of like sitting bull and people like that. so until then let the rock thing go!

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 29, 2008 at 11:22 PM
I WONDER WHY PEOPLE DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH THE DRUG EPIDEMIC PROBLEM LIKE THEY HAVE OVER THIS STUPID ROCK.......DON'T YOU ALL HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO THAN FIGHT OVER A D--- ROCK???? PUT YOUR ENERGY TO GOOD USE AND HELP COME UP WITH A WAY TO FIGHT THE DRUG PROBLEM IN BOTH STATES.....

Posted by: Mike on Mar 29, 2008 at 08:40 PM
Children , Children. Play nice , there are enough rocks to go around.I bet if you look you can even find a Bigger Rock than Kentuckys.

Posted by: Mary on Mar 29, 2008 at 08:20 PM
I find it hard to believe that a rock can cause such an uproar. I'm embarrassed for this area. If only the important things like unemployment, gas prices, etc could get this kind of attention. It's a farce and it's very sad.

Posted by: Tim on Mar 29, 2008 at 08:03 PM
At least the hatfields and mccoys, fight started over something you could EAT. wHAT A BUNCH OF DUMB HEADS, SHOULD be horse whipped,both sides.

Posted by: Flintstone on Mar 29, 2008 at 04:43 PM
This is the funniest comment thread I have ever read online. Thanks, everyone.

Posted by: Joe on Mar 29, 2008 at 01:12 PM
So we should only enforce some of the laws? Thats what I keep reading on here. First we ignore this law, then we ignore another law.... where would we be if this happens. Not only state laws but federal laws were broken here. Should we not care if laws are broken? I think all laws should be enforced. If this artifact was on private property and Mr Schafer took it then I'm sure the property owner would want it back. This artifact was removed from public land and as a citizen of the Commonwealth I want it returned to it's original location.

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 29, 2008 at 12:07 PM
I don't understand all the fuss. The rock didn't kill anyone, nor did it buy or sell drugs. It's not missing, it wasn't hurt in anyway. Why can't it be placed in Ohio for awhile then Kentucky for awhile, and so on and so forth that way anyone who wanted to see it could. I think we all need to be adults and take care of more important things. How many hungry children could you feed, dress, and shelter with the money your wasting on a rock? Everyones bi*ching about a rock when you can't ever see the river for the trash! Thats on both sides.

Posted by: west virginia on Mar 29, 2008 at 09:34 AM
i am glad to see that kentucky and ohio dont have any other problems like a bad budget, drugs, no jobs, horrible roads, i guess this stupid rock is really important !!!!!!! i dont understand leave the diver alone

Posted by: JIMMY on Mar 29, 2008 at 08:02 AM
it's a rock, a stupid rock. if the only attraction in ohio is a rock, with a funny little man on it. please! if they send that recovery man to jail. they should give him hard time. make him bust that rock up to dust.

Posted by: Olivia on Mar 29, 2008 at 02:49 AM
Can't these Kentucky lawyers find anything better to do? Like prosecute drug dealers, burglers, and murderers? No, they're too busy being bothered by a big rock.

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 29, 2008 at 12:51 AM
THEY SHOULD MAKE THE ONES THAT ARE FIGHTING OVER THE ROCK PAY FOR THE COURT COST OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS THEN SEE HOW FAR THEIR WILLING TO GO WITH IT.

Posted by: Tim on Mar 28, 2008 at 08:07 PM
I think that if Kentucky leaders let this case to be filed they all need to be tossed out of office. With all of the cut backs in education, drug enforcement, and welfare and rising healthcare costs, gas prices, and food costs Kentucky needs to spend money in a more needed capacity. But if they do file the case and win I hope that Ohio will file a case for the Commonwealth of Kentucky to get all of their "trash" out of the river that is polluting Ohio river banks since KY will own the river and everything in it then it is their trash. A battle over a rock is just flat stupid no matter who or how old you are I mean its like two kids arguing over the prize at the bottom of a cereal box.

Posted by: OHIO RIVER DIVER on Mar 28, 2008 at 06:48 PM
I WENT DOWN THERE AND SIGNED MY NAME ON THE ROCK,,,,THE ROCK REALLY BELONGS TO ME,,AND I WANT IT BACK NOW,,,,I THINK OHIO AND KY ARE THEIVES,,I AM GOING TO SUE THEM FOR SCREWING UP MY CATFISHING SPOT,,,ITS JUST NOT THE SAME NOW,,PLUS THEY HAVE PUT STRESS ON MY FISH,,,,I AM SO MAD ABOUT THIS,,,,HOW CAN THEY JUST GO DOWN THERE AND STEAL MY ROCK,,,,,ITS NOT OVER YET,,,,YOU JUST WATCH AND SEE

Posted by: jim on Mar 28, 2008 at 05:46 PM
Look around at the landscape, there's plently rocks to around for everyone.

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 28, 2008 at 02:53 PM
I wish they could resolve the rock issue,I also wish the Buckeyes could win a championship,well looks like neither is going to happen

Posted by: Hogman on Mar 28, 2008 at 02:13 PM
Wonder why Mr. Yohe spends his time on news about a rock.Get real Mr. Yohe and wsaz, people are sick of hearing about a rock big shots in Ohio & Ky want to whine about. Take the rock and split it in half and give each crybaby their share and they can take the legal fees they save and fight drugs in their cities.

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 28, 2008 at 12:30 PM
There are shirts that were made over "The War Over A Rock" and a being sold in Portsmouth, Ohio.

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 28, 2008 at 11:06 AM
"Hardrock Portsmouth officials need to spend the time and money on getting the drugs off the streets that are killing our young people." Why is it just Portsmouth? why not Kentucky also. This 1 man may go to jail. Kentucky is spending more than Ports. I still get a look of complete confusion when I say he may go to jail, and It's a rock in the same sentence.

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 28, 2008 at 10:59 AM
"tired buckeye- 1 in 10 Ohio residents are on food stamps,our jobs are gone,drugs rampant,Ironton and Portsmouth in our area are DUMPS and our leaders are fighting over a rock,all this and the Buckeyes can't win a championship...the SEC owns them....think I'll move" Sorry We won't miss you. Let me know if you need help packing.

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 28, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Leave it to Kentucky! They are smart enough to use the money wisely. Come on, you have to get serious at some point. There are children living in awful conditions. There are parents on drugs, there are students on drugs. Take the money and randomly help someone.Buy someone energy saving windows, pay for someones drug rehad, pay for drug prevention in the schools, for gods sake buy and elderly persons medication and some descent food. To think this man may go to jail for bring up a rock makes my head hurt. I took this really old glass looking stuff, Blue in color from the river bank. Am I going to jail? Please don't send me to jail Kentucky.

Posted by: Mr BS on Mar 28, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Lets get real, the guy that moved the rock may get time in the pen? Maybe 5 yesrs? They don't give drug dealers that long in the pen. Looks like the Commomwealth attorney should try working on drugs in the schools, crimes against family, personal property ETC, rather than a rock in the Ohio River. Total waste of time, our money, and the over booked court system. GOOOOOO Commonwealth

Posted by: Donna K. on Mar 28, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Give me a break people . Try spending the money on more importion thing , like the schools , getting drug off the street ! Now that the work is done getting the rock out of the river, Kentucky would like to have it, SO much their going to spend BIG dollars to get it ! That's right the state of Kentucky has so much money to burn their going to spend it on a rock !

Posted by: Appalled on Mar 28, 2008 at 09:15 AM
I am appalled at the fact that this man may be going to prison over this, yet they don't prosecute many drug dealers due to a plea deal and lower the charges on other crimes for real felons. This is a rock. Lets be reasonable and settle the ownership dispute like real men and keep it out of court. Talk about a waste of tax payers money! What chip does this Duvall have on his shoulder? So let me get this straight. If I pull a rock out the the water and take it home to WV, I will go to jail, too? This is completely pathetic. Duvall should lose his job if he prosecutes this, and anold outdated so called law. Did you know in Columbus, it is still against the law to sell Cornflakes on Sunday? And, in WV it is a no-no to snooze on the train? Yet, I think no one is going to jail for those offenses. At some point reasonable thinking needs to kick in. It's a ROCK!!

Posted by: Hardrock on Mar 28, 2008 at 07:51 AM
I agree with all of these people. IT'S A ROCK!!! Portsmouth officials need to spend the time and money on getting the drugs off the streets that are killing our young people.. Apparently, these people have no lives... GET A LIFE!!!!

Posted by: rob on Mar 28, 2008 at 07:47 AM
It's West Virginias rock and it floated down here in a flood and now you want it back? The only problem with that is you have noone smart enough to figure out a way to get it back there.

Posted by: SOME1 on Mar 28, 2008 at 07:10 AM
BRING THE ROCK TO ME I WILL LET MY GRANDKIDS CLIMB ON IT. THEY NEED SOMETHING NEW TO PLAY WITH LOL? happy day

Posted by: REBECCA on Mar 28, 2008 at 04:26 AM
THAT RIGHT IT BELONG TO THE MOUNTAINEERS, NOW GIVE US OUR ROCK BACK BEFORE WE SEND ALL OF YOU PEOPLE TO PRISON FOR JUST BEING STUPID

Posted by: tired buckeye on Mar 28, 2008 at 02:05 AM
1 in 10 Ohio residents are on food stamps,our jobs are gone,drugs rampant,Ironton and Portsmouth in our area are DUMPS and our leaders are fighting over a rock,all this and the Buckeyes can't win a championship...the SEC owns them....think I'll move

Posted by: realist on Mar 28, 2008 at 01:54 AM
I find it funny that Mr. Yohe would even report on such a minimal subject. We have the following problems that take an absurd precedence: Iraq, the market slump, jail reform, among other things- but apparently we are so Neanderthal we are willing to complain over a rock! Just another subject to get our eyes off the real killer

Posted by: KY on Mar 27, 2008 at 11:28 PM
THE ROCK NEEDS TO BE BUSTED INTO TINY PEICES AND NEITHER SIDE SHOULD GET IT. ITS SO STUPID TO FIGHT OVER A ROCK. SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF 2YRS OLDS FIGHTING OVER A TOY.

Posted by: jessica on Mar 27, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Ok, simple solution: Drop it in the middle of the Ohio River somewhere at the at the Kentucky and Ohio border and be done with it. IT'S JUST A ROCK!

Posted by: K.R.L. on Mar 27, 2008 at 09:59 PM
ITS REALLY WEST VIRGINIA'S ROCK IT JUST FLOATED DOWN STREAM THE LAST FLOOD,NOW WE WANT IT BACK.

Posted by: Justin on Mar 27, 2008 at 09:50 PM
I ashamed of both states over this stupid rock, come on this is stupid, lets worry about the homeless famalies the unsolved murders and the drug dealers, but yet they want to fight over a stupid rock. GEE WHIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mike on Mar 27, 2008 at 09:25 PM
HELLO. people its a rock. We need to be worrying about Iraq not Arock.

Posted by: jack on Mar 27, 2008 at 09:15 PM
have them put it back where they got it,then no harm done and if kentucky wants it they can remove it themselves..if that doesnt work we can have a trial then if found guilty have them stoned :)

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