AK Steel to 'Hot-Idle' Plant Operations
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Posted: 3:38 PM Nov 11, 2008
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ASHLAND, KY (WSAZ) -- AK Steel announced today in a press release that it will temporarily idle its Ashland, Kentucky operations due to "the recent unanticipated and major downturn in the economy." The downturn has resulted in a lower demand for some of the company’s products.

The company says it plans to keep the facility closed until early to mid-January.

The blast furnaces will be maintained in “hot-idle” status which means the furnaces will keep going although they are not producing steel.

AK Steel services the automobile industry. The move will immediately impact 650 of the 700 union workers at the Ashland Works. Union leaders say the loss of work here will also hurt complementary businesses. The Greenup County Judge-Executive tells WSAZ.com Stein Flag Corporation has given notice of potential layoffs for workers there. Union leaders estimate this could affect at least 300 other jobs in the area.

The union says many questions remain here. Workers will either get unemployment or supplemental pay, which is the equivalent of between 50 and 80 percent of their base pay.

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PRESS RELEASE: West Chester, OH, November 11, 2008—AK Steel (NYSE: AKS) announced today that it is temporarily idling its Mansfield, Ohio operations, and most of its Ashland, Kentucky operations, due to the recent unanticipated and major downturn in the economy, which has resulted in sharply lower demand for some of the company’s products. The company said that, based upon currently foreseeable market conditions, both facilities will remain idled until early- to mid-January.

AK Steel’s Mansfield Works currently employs 365 hourly and salaried men and women. The plant produces stainless flat-rolled steel which is used primarily to manufacture automotive exhaust systems. Steel production and shipping temporarily ceased at the Mansfield Works earlier this week. A small number of hourly and salaried employees will continue to maintain the operations in anticipation of a resumption of production when warranted by business conditions.

The Ashland Works produces carbon flat-rolled steel for automotive, appliance and other markets, and the plant currently employs 1,100 hourly and salaried men and women. However, about 275 of the Ashland Works employees work at the company’s coke plant, which will continue to operate, but at a reduced level. Ashland’s blast furnace, steelmaking, casting and coating operations will be idled later this month. As in Mansfield, a small number of hourly and salaried employees will continue to work maintaining the idled operations in preparation for a re-start. The company said Ashland’s blast furnace would be maintained in "hot-idle" status.

The company said it continues to evaluate all of its operations and administrative functions in light of the economic downturn, and will be prepared to adjust to continued rapidly changing conditions. That would include restarting the idled operations sooner if warranted by significantly improved business conditions.

"We remain hopeful that we will be able to return our dedicated and hard-working employees to their jobs as swiftly as possible," said James L. Wainscott, chairman, president and CEO. "Of course, that depends entirely on credit availability and consumer confidence, which are at the heart of this serious economic downturn."
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Posted by: Mike on Nov 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Its going to get worse. I have a feeling that AK steel will not be reopening Ashland in Mid-January. It will probably be late 2009 if ever. It looks like the Auto makers will file Chapeter 11 which means that AK's buggest customer won't be needing any steel.
Posted by: hurting in Ky on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:36 PM
I am a single mother of two childern and I am lossing my job! But I do not work at Ak Steel! I work at one of the other bussnissus that are closing! You know its not right that people are willing to help just the ak workers! Value city, Lines and things and Steve and Bareys just to name a few places closing around the tri state area. Why isn't any one willing to help us and the others from there! Who cares about just the ak steel workers! There are many more people out there who need help paying the bills and trying to take care of the childern and many wount be having a Chirstmas or Thanksgiving! Look around the community and see how many other people are being effcted by the other jobs closing!! They need help too! People always say that communitys need to stick together and help each other in a time of need! Well not in this case! They mean JUST THE AK STEEL WORKERS!!!
Posted by: anonymous on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:27 PM
Jone's ? who are they? are they really fast?
Posted by: jbird on Nov 20, 2008 at 12:39 PM
just worked my last midnight. hey lets all just sit back with the family hold them tight and truly be thankful for all that we have. it will be nice eating thanksgivng with the family and not having to go out on evening turn afterwards. also it will be nice to be home all day christmas and not have to work evening turn. so there is a bright side if we don't focus on money alone. many people would be gracious to bring home 450.00 a week this holiday season. lets take a break for a few weeks and come back in january as better, wiser, stronger people with better families. happy holidays and go bucks..
Posted by: hey Brian on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Nothing wrong with salary or hourly. For most of the mill has great foreman NOW! You started with the disrespect on here! Look back a few posts, OH YEAH! So you got a burr up your hind -end because you didnt have enough time in for union representation so you are still bitter well get over it. People like you would be better off staying to the no-comment side these days before you step on your tongue again. And thanks for the support now.....So where are you "super engineer" employed at these days?
Posted by: Brian on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:20 PM
Ignore everthing I have posted..truth is I made some mistakes and im bitter, Sorry to waste your time.
Posted by: Brian on Nov 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM
And another thing. I respect everybody in the hourly work force that I worked with. I bent over backwards to let things slide that I shouldn't have because I didn't always beleive in the way the comapany was treating the men. Yes I signed up to be hourly. You know why, because when the contract was up in 2000 the company told me that If i didn't come into the plant and be locked in during the potential strike that I would be fired. I was originally in the union but the company said that I didn't have my time in. I tried to get the union to back me but the refused. I had no choice but to go salary because I had just moved back from Virgina. So before you go trashing me get your facts straight. I pray that everybody goes back to work.
Posted by: Hey Brian on Nov 18, 2008 at 06:08 PM
Now I see why you were laid off in 2003. It isn't the union's fault you didn't get paid overtime for what you worked. That was your stupidity. Guess all that suckn got you no where...
Posted by: Retbfworker on Nov 18, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Green Salary: Thank You for telling the truth and sticking up for us all.
Posted by: Green Salary ....AK on Nov 18, 2008 at 09:41 AM
Brian, I am new to the company (less than 2 years service) and what Ive seen is a workforce who is very willing to work for you when you treat them like they should be with respect. I dont know your background but where I have worked in the past could have used some of these men. I am proud to stand by these men. Without them as a whole that plant would not run! And thats a solid fact. You cant pay for for knowledge and experience you have to ask.... Dont trash talk you make yourself look bad and would explain why your were cut with that attitude! Sounds like you had the cake job instead of them, I watched everyone in amasement last Fall when the real work was done. Everyone was pulling more than there weight. That furnace crew are some great men and women.
Posted by: Retbfman on Nov 17, 2008 at 09:06 PM
Hey Brian. Before you make the blast funace men look bad, you need to tell both sides of story. While maitnance was getting things ready the bf crew was waiting in the wings ready to get the job. Brute work done. Where were u when the heavy tueyer was coming out. Every body has a job at diffrent times not all can work in such cramped space at 1 time. We all help each other. Let's just all get through this tough time. Let's help each other not point fingers on who does what
Posted by: Greenup on Nov 17, 2008 at 08:36 PM
TO WSAZ : I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, SINCE YOU WON'T POST THE COMMENT I MADE AROUND 1:00 P.M. NOV. 17,2008.
Posted by: Greenup on Nov 17, 2008 at 05:30 PM
TO WSAZ : WHY WON'T YOU POST MY COMMENT. YOU POST EVERYONE ELSES COMMENTS. GUESS YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE "YOU KNOW WHAT" TO POST MINE. MY COMMENT WAS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S.
Posted by: Rotten To:TW on Nov 17, 2008 at 05:12 PM
Ok,we dont make cars, we make steel which car manufactures make parts for thier cars. Such as a fender or a door or a hood ect...Glad you like them forigeners, eat dog eat cat marry christmas,maybe you'll get a Kia down you chimney:)
Posted by: Brian on Nov 17, 2008 at 01:49 PM
To all of you people who are trashing the salary workers at AK, you don't know what your talking about. I used to work at the furnace as an engineer. All of the foreman work extremely hard (maintenance and operations.) We worked long hours and without getting paid the OT that the union guys get. At least at the furncace I would pressure test and fix leaks and help change blow pipes while some, not all, of the union guys just watched or would lay back in the lunch room. What are all of those union dues you paid getting you know. I should be mad at AK for laying me off in 2003, but I am not. I am thankful for the friends that I made while at the furnace. Those guys supported me through thick and thin. It was the best thing that ever happend to me. I am a better person and better engineer because of my experience at AK and the leadership of my boss Bill Thompson. I hope everything turns out for the best and the furncace starts up again but it is probably closed for good.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 17, 2008 at 01:01 PM
This idle shut down is stupidest thing i have ever heard of. my father works there and he works hard to help make a living nor our family. this shut down is going to hurt a lot of families. Thnks Alot!!!
Posted by: wife of hard working man on Nov 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I don't understand why it seems people are happy that hard working people are being laid off. My husband works hard for the money he makes. He is at AK Steel 70% of his life and his childrens. He doesn't make it to football, basketball, baseball, or softball games. Not to say all the parties he doesn't see, but in pictures. That is a sacrifice he makes to give his childern a good life. Instead of WINNIE about what you don't have try to find something better. All it takes is a pen!! Then you can get your own high horse.
Posted by: IBELIEVE on Nov 17, 2008 at 09:40 AM
My husband works at AK Steel. I Believe that God is in control and HE will work things out the way HE wants them worked out. We need to spend more time praying for our economy and the leaders at AK Steel, he's the only one that can do something about this mess. Blame is not helping anyone at this time!
Posted by: B on Nov 16, 2008 at 11:09 PM
It's very sad for me to hear the envy of some people on here. So what, the guys and gals at AK earned a decent wage!!! The hours they put in to earn it is ridiculous! My husband worked at least three 16 hour days every work week! We have four daughters to support and I was lucky enough to stay home with them because of this. The comments about $900 weekly unemployment is ridiculous!! True, we will make barely enough to keep us from getting wic for our newborn or food stamps to feed our family!! So unlike the lazy jealous bums that want to whine about how much AK employees make, these men and women worked their butts off and deserve every penny they get working or on employment! And despite what most of you may think, the majority of people working at AK are good people who would back their community in times like these instead of fuming with jealousy!! To all AK families, I wish you the best!!
Posted by: Travis King on Nov 16, 2008 at 05:20 PM
Watch out Kyle you might make the company think I should do it there also.....You are giving me a good reputation thanks maybe I should be a politician instead of a Steelworker never knew I had such a great quality. Glad to see you have the time on your hands for such informative comments, hope the best for you whoever you really are!!
Posted by: fake name users on Nov 16, 2008 at 11:29 AM
In regards to the post made by Rotten on Nov.15.I know for a fact rotten did not make this comment so whoever is using other peoples names should just stop it you all are going to cause trouble.If you want your voice heard use your name not someone else name.You people are eally sick!I'm praying for a speedy end to this nightmare.Rotten is a good person and would not blame someone else for thier misfortune.
Posted by: TO: Bill B on nov 16 on Nov 16, 2008 at 11:18 AM
You lost your job 1994 because Dick Wardrop (one of Bush's buddies) wanted to shut down Ashland Works because he hated Local 1865....This lay off is due to the current economic crisis===REFER TO ha on Nov 15, 2008 at 10:59 AM...maybe you can understand those terms....
Posted by: Kyle Ramey on Nov 16, 2008 at 09:40 AM
Travis King, I should have known you would get on at AK. You were such a boot kisser at ACTC and I'm guessing you used that trait to get on at AK as well. I guess you learned one thing well at school after all.
Posted by: BillB on Nov 16, 2008 at 08:01 AM
To all of you blaming President Bush for layoffs at A.K. Steel. I lost my job at A.K. on 1/1/94 after 24 yrs.By your line of thinking I should blame President Clinton. Having hired in in 1968 I have been laided off under dems and reps. But I lost my job under a dem. But unlike lots of you I don't give presidents credit when things are good or blame him when it is bad .Please let me know if I should start blaming Bill Clinton>
Posted by: akwifey on Nov 16, 2008 at 12:38 AM
I'm sure the real Wainscott has better things to do than bicker back and forth with people. Hopefully, he's finding a way to keep my husband working!!
Posted by: payton on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Stop spreading rumors and trying to cause chaos in everyone you should ashamed of yourselves.
Posted by: TO ak worker on Nov at 8:53 on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:19 PM
You must be a clerk....lol
Posted by: SCOTT CONLEY on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Greenup, you don't know what you are talking about. First of all that is 60% total, that mean you take unemployment plus your sub pay and the total will equal 60%. It is not $900 a week and not even close if we are lucky we will make $500. That is what I'm talking about you need to understand before you start spreading rumors, and I'm not on some high horse I work hard and I support my family and last Christmas we supported another family of four so they could have a good Christmas. Thats what alot of people on hear don't understand I'm not the only person that works there that helps out others in need and this year that is not going to happen. So get all the facts before you submit a comment on hear
Posted by: rotten on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:10 PM
Who ever Wainscott is talking too is Tim Imes--I-me-s.Because Mike Hewlett would not give steelworkers jobs,so Mike Hewlett is not making deals with Wainscott,that is what Imes would do,so to our union brothers and sisters your job is safe you will not be part of a deal.
Posted by: ak worker on Nov 15, 2008 at 08:53 PM
hey scott hope your right i bring home under 500. now i will get a raise!!!! I was told i would get%60 percent of that guess you would know
Posted by: Paula King on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:53 PM
I worked for Ak for almost 5 years. These men work hard, put in forced hours of overtime,and are devoted to their jobs. I believe "Greenup" is a little ruffed over being forgotten, don't take it personally And as for "NOT A DEMOCRAT" post, I can honestly tell that YOU are completely blind. If you deliver to a company, then isn't this company (AK) making you money? And if you honestly think Obama will be worse than the worst president in history, your crazy. Either way, our country's economy is at the brink of disaster. Thanks to BUSH ECONOMICS AND NO REGULATION. For those Union workers who like to bash the union, Let me tell you to hold your tongue. If you think a NON union shop would offer you sub-pay, insurance, or a chance to even come back to work YOU ARE TOTALLY MISTAKEN. If you don't like the union, go work non-union then. It is people like you who make the union weak, they don't need you anyways. And if anyone want's to address my comment, provide your name, don't hide :)
Posted by: Travis King on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:23 PM
We are very thankful for are jobs and union wages. I hope that Marathon stays strong and can keep everone working as with CSX, PCI, etc.!!! For anyone in this area or over the country to set back and imply that this is what people deserve is proof of ignorance. This is not AK problems or PCI problems this is our country and its backbone of industry falling around our feet. When Ironton Iron shut down those workers filtered into other industry in the area over time but there stress could be felt over every angle of our communtiy. This area cant afford another loss of that magnitude. And how can you people get on here and make comments about Unions and how they bring this on themselves. This area was built on Union wages and everyone has forgot the fight that was made for are working rights and the blood and tears that went to get them. We need to get over Rep. and Dem. issues and work together to fix are nation, area and future. Stop blaming and start fixing!!!!!!!! proud member of 1865!
Posted by: Travis King on Nov 15, 2008 at 05:59 PM
Like Scott C. said stop hidding behind fake names. As for "Heather the accountant" why dont you enlighten all of us how to fix this economy and the nations problems. Since you are of "higher education". I make what your husband does, and I know this beacause I have a close friend in the same line of work at KDMC. So lets get off the exaggerated pay comments. Now I know that everyone does different with lifes priorities and expenses. For you information my wife is currently in school for the so called "fallback degree" that you refer to. We watch our money close and plan thats why she quit her job at AK for a career in the medical field. Now as for you that say we who choose foreign automobiles are to blame look where large amounts of AK's product go. I for one am not ashamed of supporting myself by purchasing Toyota products. As for who to blame for the economy, everyone is to an extent. Greed has drove this more than anything and past political decision on leadership and beliefs!!!!!!
Posted by: RottensDaughter on Nov 15, 2008 at 05:10 PM
For all of you who are praying for our families I thank you very much, Obama will bring us out of this.For those of you who are saying that our families our "Over paid" maybe all you 48 year olds still living with mommy and daddy maybe you should take a break from playing video games and chating on match.com and take a trip down to Ak Steel to find out what a "Hard Working American" really means. My Father is a Union Man For Ak Steel and he works his A** off to put clothes on our backs and food on our table, so just to let you know he earns every single penny he makes. so thank for you for your support. -Rottens Daughter Daddys A Steel Worker And A Dang good one!
Posted by: Greenup on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:29 AM
TO SCOTT CONLEY : Maybe you need to go back and read my comment because I didn't say anything about what you guys make. And also I do have family that has worked there for many, many years and know what you guys make. But I chose not to talk about it. And what I said about the $900 a week is the truth and you know it. You guys are getting $500 a week sub pay on top of your $400 a week unemployment check and that equals $900. DUH!!! People like you need to come off your pedestal and quit acting like your better than everybody else and trying to make everything out to be jealousy, cause it's not. I've never tried to get a job at AK and don't want one. I could care less what you make because I want to spend some time with my family and not live at AK. (Especially with the mandatory overtime, on top of that them scheduling you on your only days off) SO SCOTT, PEOPLE like you need to get over yourself and stop being so conceited and making yourself believe everybody wants to be like you.
Posted by: ha on Nov 15, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Ok, Let me put it this way....gas prices 3.99 a gallon = Big profits for oil companies (The Bush's and CHeney's)= "putting it to the auto industry"= no orders for steel= ak layoffs...I believe this is called "trickle down" economics of Bush . . .
Posted by: James Wainscott CEO AK STEEL on Nov 15, 2008 at 01:17 AM
I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH PRESIDENT MIKE HEWLETT OF LOCAL 1865 AND HERES THE UDATE THAT HE AGREED TO WE ARE GOING TO KEEP 400 WORKERS WITHT HE AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO PERMANENTLY LAYOFF 300 WORKERS EVERYONE ELSE LEFT WILL TAKE A $2 HOUR PAY CUT
Posted by: I agree on Nov 15, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Amen...I agree with you Greenup. For 3 years my husband has been without a high paying job. These AK workers are not the only people suffering.
Posted by: SCOTT CONLEY on Nov 14, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I like how people like Greenup think they know how much money all us at AK Steel will make. Well just like alot of other people on this page YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. It sounds to me like there are alot of people that are mad because you could not get a job at AK or pass the test for employment. That is not the hourly employees fault. There are alot of people that that will be out of work and this is going to effect every business in the area one way or another. If you want your voice heard grow a pair and quit hidding behind your fake name and be a man not a coward. On another note, I'm with Rotten, Thanks to all of our Union Officals and membership. I would like to thank everybody in the community that is pulling for us and those that are not, well you know what you can do.
Posted by: rotten on Nov 14, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Thanks to all of our union officals who have represented the Brothers and Sisters of local 1865,Thank you!Hopefully we will support you like you have supported us.
Posted by: Greenup on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:52 PM
It's sad to see all these AK workers crying over having to live off of at least $900 per week. (For all of you that don't know, these people can get their unemployment checks untaxed) I'm laid off myself from Pregis. All of us that are laid off are making it on just the unemployment. It's also sad to see that the Steelworkers seemed to have forgotten about us. Ever since the big breaking news about AK layoffs, all you ever hear is how the community needs to make sure these people are fed and make sure their children have a good Christmas, and BLAH BLAH BLAH They don't care about all the families from the other local plants that are laid off. Only because they are worried that the AK families are not going to be spending as much money now for the holidays. Just remember, AK families aren't the only ones having a tough time. How many children never have as good a Christmas as we do? There are many parents that are sick and can't work, or don't have the education to have a good paying job
Posted by: Lora on Nov 14, 2008 at 08:31 PM
As a child I have seen Armco lay my dad off 2x and never be called back with 18 1/2 yrs. Now as a 32 yr old woman, wife and mother of 4, I am seeing my husband laid off. Did I ever think I would be in my parents shoes. NO! But here I am. I am a stronger person today because of it. My family taught me that FAMILY is what is important and as long as we have each other and our prayers we WILL make it. I remember my dad rolling coins to pay for my prom dress, charging my college education and holding his head up high. AND that is what my family will do and we WILL make it. Hopefully this won't last but if it does we will get through it and be STRONGER people. Everyone needs to remember that NO JOB is secure. God deals us what we can handle and my family and other AK familes will get through this. I will pray for all of us and even for the corporate AK people that they will make the right choices to call us back to work. Everyone needs to be thankful and not judgemental.
Posted by: Sarah on Nov 14, 2008 at 08:29 PM
A few of the comments below do not seem clear to me. Our country is going through a tough time right now and the AK layoffs is a result of that. Just like everyone else in this country that is employed, these people work for one reason - to provide for themselves and their families. With 600 being laid off, this will have a major impact on the area; meaning that 600 families that normally contribute to the local economy by shopping and dining, will now be able to do so on a limited basis, if not at all. Those workers may not have a job either if the economy doesn't get a boost. So for those of you who have jobs be thankful and be careful of the words chosen to express your concerns because the things that you say about the ones that are laid off today, could be saying the same things about you tomorrow. We need to extend our support not only to our families and friends but to our country and to our new president.
Posted by: STEELWORKERWIFE on Nov 14, 2008 at 08:02 PM
I am a wife to an Ak worker and I know about the sacrifice all these workers make. I pity all of you that are making the negative comments. You should be ashamed and remember 'what goes around comes around' so watch what you say! I am praying for all the families and I know that GOD will take care of all of us. It will be hard for some, but thankfully my husband has saved for times such as this and we are prepared. We don't have a high dollar home or high doller vehicles. I drive a 4 year old suv and he drives an 8 year old truck. We have never tried to compete with the Jones' or lived above our means. I have been married to my husband for 3 years now and have never got to spend a full day of Thanksgiving, Christmas or New Years with him but I will this year. He has made many sacrifices over the 8 years he has been with AK but he does it for his family. I pity all you who don't know what a real job is and what hard work is all about. AK families you are in our prayers.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 14, 2008 at 05:38 PM
My husband has worked at AK for a little over 2 years, and we have been thankful for that time. We are praying that he will be called back in Jan. But until then I would like to ask for prayers for all the laidoff workers. Thank you to all the nice comments and prayers some of you have left, and for those who have said some of the awful stuff on here, I will be prayin g for you, and that GOD will take the hate out of your heart
Posted by: Heather on Nov 14, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Both my grandfather and father worked for AK Steel for a VERY long time. My dad was injured on the job, and it took a very long time for Ak to take care of him....but they did. My point is, I know what it is like when the layoffs occur, and I will be keeping all the employees and families in my prayers. Ignore the negative comments about your possessions and hourly wages, because that isn't what this is about. God be with you all and have a safe a wonderful holiday season!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 14, 2008 at 05:16 PM
Wow. I am not a republican nor a democrat, however I am smart enough to understand that the president is not responsible for all the decisions made. It has to pass in congress, which ladies and gentleman......contains democrats too.
Posted by: Cindy on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Thanks again ot the Bush Administration for our poor economy.. I hope all of you voted to Obama.. you may see your jobs back in a few years....
Posted by: TO all the idiots on Nov 14, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Who think Obama is the reason for this, YOU MUST LAY OFF THE PILLS AND CRACK PIPE. Educate yourself a little boys and girls. Instead of listening to Fox and Rush. Thanks to your buddy Goerge Worst Bush, he has put the screws to ya once again, but at least ya'all got to keep your guns right??? You bunch of 2 cent millionaires need to rethink before you swtart spoutn off at the mouth. I worked at AK for 5yrs and absolutley feel for you that are being laid off, But I believe you need to be blaiming the man in office now you bunch of winey idiots.
Posted by: Scott A. Moore on Nov 14, 2008 at 08:05 AM
I worked 30 years in Weirton Steel in the northern panhandle. My company went bankrupt and took all of the benefits from the retirees and sent our pensions to the PBGC. "Corporate Greed" was the culprit in our case, the CEO's preach economics and current market demand, but when was the last time you saw a CEO give up their bonus or Golden Parachute because of the economy or market allowing men and women to keep their jobs? If we paid CEO's based on profitability and increasing the business viability they would probably make just above minimum wage. But without the working class to do their bidding they could not achieve a thing. So, to all of the men and women that have been laid off or lost their jobs I feel your pain and I truly wish you all good blessings in finding stable employment. To the CEO's Do a lot of praying this holiday season and maybe you will find the knowledge and the heart to give up some benefits so people can work and be prosperous.
Posted by: Sick of the Blame Game on Nov 14, 2008 at 07:39 AM
I wouldn't start whining about Big Oil if I were you, BlameWho? on Nov 13, 2008 at 04:49 PM. We don't have much else left around here now. What will happen if Marathon packs up and leaves town as well? Big Oil has paid for my special needs child to have therapy and medical care as well as put food on our table and enabled us to pay our taxes and contribute a little to charity. We don't live in a big, fancy house or drive a Jag. The overwhelming majority of the people that work for Big Oil are working class people who give most of their time to the company just like the workers at AK. It is shameful that this has been turned into a partisan issue when it is simply a human issue concerning our friends and neighbors, regardless of political affiliation. Good luck to everyone.
Posted by: James Wainscott CEO AK STEEL on Nov 14, 2008 at 04:43 AM
FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MIKE HEWLETT PRESIDENT LOCAL 1865 FOR THE DEALS HE HAS CUT OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS TO HELP MY COMPANY I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK ROD BROWN GRIEVANCE CHAIRMAN FOR SETTLING GRIEVANCES THAT LOCAL 1865 WOULD HAVE WON ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MARK LINCH AND PAT ROBERTS FOR ALL THE INSIDER PHONE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AT LOCAL 1865 MEN AND WOMEN OF LOCAL 1865 PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR THESE OFFICERS THEY ARE OUR BEST PLAYERS
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:50 AM
My late husband was a UNION man. The union took a big chunk of his pay for dues. For what?When he was hurt on the job, and unable to work, Union did not pay my utilities, food, or living expenses. And seven years later, I am still fighting for the money he personally paid into a retirement. Funny, how the company can lose those records. I would tell the people at AK, educate yourselves in a high demand field.
Posted by: walkwith em on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:40 AM
i would like to say to everyone praying for us ak workers is greatly appreciated. also i would like to say to those who call us union workers whinny and uneducated that is for from the truth. i am very well educated as are many of my coworkers.however i am not commenting to run anyone down. if i were it would be the salary ppl and i just might give u the truth about them. however this is going to be difficult for many families not only ak employees but also the bus we spend our earned money at. yes we do make a good living and that is thanks to our union. if had not been for unions ppl who work under the conditions we do would not make the wages we do, nor would the salary ppl or anyone else in working america. so to those of you who had evil things to say about us plz refrain as we are human like anyone else and we have families who rely on our income to feed them clothe them and keep them a place to sleep at night that is safe.
Posted by: dj on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:38 AM
i just want to say i am blown away from some of the stuff people have said to and about these people and there families, they did nothing wrong, none of this was there fault, this could happen to any one of us, and it might just come back around to the ones who have no heart and feelings of what these people are going through right now, if you think that way about this situation the best thing for you to do is keep it to your self, if thats what makes you feel good about yourself. and to every single family and people in your family that this has affected, be strong,ignore these people and have faith, god will take care of you, and god bless!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 13, 2008 at 11:18 PM
I am an AK Wife and I just wanted to say thank you to everyone that has said nice things and the support. To all others with their rude comments I feel sorry for you! You shouldn't judge and just remember, karma will come your way sometime!
Posted by: Time for healing on Nov 13, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Wow, I read every post on here and I'm at a loss for words. Heather and others need to understand that not everyone can get an "education" and misfortune can come to anyone at anytime (including her). Folks should try and take the high road on this subject. This is not the time to give your two sense (joke) for/against Unions. This is a time to reach out and encourage those who have lost their livelihoods; to use every tool available to them to overcome this unfortunate situation. Call upon friends and family, take that hand up from the gov't or your local church. Sit down and make out a plan of attack. Update your resume and post it on web sites like Monster.com & Careerbuilder.com; they have tens of thousands of job opportunities around the Country and yes, around the World. Don't be afraid to seek employment outside of the tri-state area....I did years ago and have no regrets! As one door closes others will open so long as you are looking for them. God Bless & keep the faith!
Posted by: jim on Nov 13, 2008 at 10:04 PM
IF YOU KNOW BRADLEY I DO NOT THINK HE MADE THAT POST THAT HAS HIS NAME ON IT NO WAY DID HE MAKE THE POST HE IS JUST ONE SORRY HUMAN.
Posted by: Tony on Nov 13, 2008 at 07:52 PM
I'm all for bailing out the automotive industry, but it won't solve anything. The only thing that will help is when people start buying new cars again. With the current state of the economy, I don't see too many people wanting to buy a new car.
Posted by: Larry on Nov 13, 2008 at 06:52 PM
80% of their pay. Wow, thats not a bad deal.
Posted by: ObamaFan on Nov 13, 2008 at 06:51 PM
ak wife#1 you are not an ak wife. and if you truly are, tell your husband to grow a pair.
Posted by: osama on Nov 13, 2008 at 06:49 PM
Ii watch. I see. God bless the USWA 1865
Posted by: local 1865 on Nov 13, 2008 at 05:22 PM
To ak wife#1: Sounds like you are jealous. You are a poor excuse for a human being.
Posted by: BlameWho? on Nov 13, 2008 at 04:49 PM
How can some of you people complain about "The Union" when we are living in a country where Big Oil can make $14.8 billion profit in one quarter and some companies are paying CEOs millions of dollars to drive them into bankruptcy. And now we the working men/women are called upon to bail them out with our tax dollar. I would venture to say that there is not one union worker making $40 mill plus a year let alone $14.8 billion in three months. I'm not saying Unions are flawless, but they could never compare to the greed of big business. I wonder what the CEO of GM makes comparied to the CEO of Nissan?
Posted by: anonymous on Nov 13, 2008 at 04:20 PM
I was reading the headlines and found the comments listed under the AK story. My son works at AK steel and yes he makes a good salary. But to those of you who thinks he stands around waiting on a light bulb to be changed by someone else, you don't know my son. He was taught if he had a job to do to do it well. He does not stand around just to collect a pay check. He has been laid off different times at different jobs and to those of you who are afraid you will have to pick up his slack when he goes to the welfare line, don't fear. He goes looking for a job. He has never drawn out completely his workers comp and hopefully he won't this time either.
Posted by: jack meyhoff on Nov 13, 2008 at 03:53 PM
That Bradley sounds like a true stand up guy.
Posted by: rotten on Nov 13, 2008 at 03:05 PM
For all you smart a----,glad to see you like us loosing our jobs.But our unemployment & sub pay is more than most of you make.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 13, 2008 at 01:06 PM
I'm worried about my Grandmothers pension. If AK Steel leaves the area- would they still have to pay out retiree's pensions?
Posted by: John on Nov 13, 2008 at 11:46 AM
WSAZ, why have you stopped adding posts to this board? this message board is killer!!! people hating people! i love it!!!!
Posted by: AK Wife on Nov 13, 2008 at 11:42 AM
I want to know if any of the people who have made the rude and hurtful comments have ever worked swing shift. If not let me educate you. My husband has been at AK for the last five years and he works 7 days of evening turn, 7 days of day turn and then 7 days of midnight turn. If he is lucky he will get 2 days off in those turns. After his last midnight turn he gets what everybody calls a long weekend which lasts from thursday morning & ends when he goes in on tuesday evening turn. There has been many times that my husband has worked midnight to day turn. Worked day turn & then had to go back in on midnight turn & has worked numerous days straight without a day off. I haven't mentioned that we can not plan anything 2 days ahead of schedule because if we do then in most cases we either have to reschedule or I have to go on with whatever plans we had. For example our kids birthday parties, Christmas mornings & Thanksgiving dinners. So the extra money they make is nothing in comparison.
Posted by: Ryan on Nov 13, 2008 at 10:53 AM
I am an AK Steel employee. I dont know what Ill do without that million dollar a year paycheck that some of you think I make. I dont know what you Will Do without those taxes Ive been paying for you to lay in your house and draw the checks that me and my friends have supplied for you for so long. Think before you judge. We are just people and work as hard as anyone else and we will be fine.. For those that are praying for us THANK YOU. Turn your prayers also for the misinformed..
Posted by: ak wife#1 on Nov 13, 2008 at 10:49 AM
now, some of you people can see how it is to not know one day to the next what your going to eat ,living beyond your high means,the big fancy houses,with 2 and 3 cars in the drive ways,the big harley, boat, whipping out the big credit cards eating out all the time well for most of you all you will get a taste of how it feels to not have much ,we try and to survive.on arg pay u all waste alot of money then start whinning when its all going to be taken away from u ALL BECAUSE U WERE BIG SHOW-OFFS AND HAD TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONES!! u all should have saved u knew this day could come anytime nothing is for certain. this is only true knowledge!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 13, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I work at AK Steel and am very blessed to have this job. AK does not OWE any of us ANYTHING we went to them for a job they didn't search for us. NOBODY has a PROMISE of tommorrow. We have to take one day at a time and pray to GOD that our economy turns around. But come on people they HAVE to help ot the auto industry as well as they shall its just a matter of when!! As a community we should stand together..I don't feel hard toward a doctor because they earn more than me, I say more power to you. Fellow co-wokers stand tuff we will make it through this. Its bad ALL OVER not just AK . No one should base their lives on OVERTIME PAY for we KNEW it would END SOMEDAY...Soo that day is here tighten the reins REMEMBER YOUR NEEDS not your WANTS it makes me ashamed for fellow workers and families to write of such hardships when MANY PEOPLE would LOVE to get paid what we will draw while we are OFF!!
Posted by: Debbie on Nov 13, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Larry Bradley, I love your idea! Maybe a lot of folks who still have a job (union or non) could come up with something for the holidays for those who have lost theirs! A big dinner, gift giving thing for the families kinda like the City Mission has except for those who lost jobs! I'd love to be a part of something like that! If you read this and are interested let me know on this board and maybe we can put our heads together and come up with something.
Posted by: sue crider on Nov 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM
if bush would give everybody that works stimulas money. then we could pay off bills buy new cars and trucks.It dont take a genius to tell the big people in the white house what that will do for the economy.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen on Nov 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM
I was reading comments and I wanted to remark on the poster that was concerned about Toyota. I have family that works there and they are hurting just as bad as everyone else. The plant in Indiana they referenced was shut down. The large SUVs they make are no longer being produced, they have laid off ALL temporary employees and have consolidated MANY departments causing many to lose jobs. They no longer work overtime and they have cut their production numbers drastically. I feel bad for all AK workers and their families, it will be a rough christmas for all. Unfortunately everyone will feel the direct effect of this horrible economy, THANK YOU GEORGE BUSH.. Now is the time to pull together and help each other out. Lets keep each other in our prayers. God will take care of what we need. He will not put us through what He knows we cannot get through. God bless everyone.
Posted by: April (Coke Plant Wife) on Nov 13, 2008 at 09:27 AM
I have sat here for the past hour reading everyones comments, it is really sad that in our small tristate area that everyone would rather point fingers than to pull together and help one another make it through. My husband is sick and we have been living on sick pay since Sept. which is half of unemployment, somehow someway we are managing to make it, we have 3 children who are very understanding. And the ones who have mentioned that we all should save for a rainy day, that is not always easy to do when you have 3 kids, bills, house, medical bills. And believe me I don't have 50 pairs of jeans and new shoes. We live as simple as possible even when he was working and times are just hard. I promise if you have faith it will find a way of working out. My dad works at the mill and my husbands cousin and many good friends, it is effecting everyone no mattter how hard or if you had a nest egg to fall back on. Good luck to all. And trust in GOd. Stay strong!
Posted by: Anon. on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:57 AM
Let's just hope things in this area get better because it is going to be hard for us all just not AK Steel. I don't see it getting back where it was at this time this year. AK Steel employees need to come down to earth and find work somewhere else. Leaving the area is all there is left......
Posted by: Brooke on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:38 AM
I agree with Local 1865, the Company always has the upper hand! This slow down is a result of the economy and sad to say but EVERYONE is feeling the effects of this. It makes me sick to hear ppl whining about union workers. Until you know the risks involved at these places you need to shut your mouths. If i had to work at a place that was high risk and where over 50% of its retirees died or had cancer i would expect a high salary too! Ppl need to be thankful for what they have and not go around comparing their lives to other people. GOOD GRIEF! Those guys have families and bills just like everyone else, and they work for what they have same as you and me. Ppl need to realize that unions are good, they protect you, they are your family. I know that if something happened at my work they would say good bye nice knowing ya. There would not be anyone there to protect me. That is a fact! Time will tell on this one i am afraid.
Posted by: Not a Democrat! on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:12 AM
I am sad to see people lose their jobs but it was bound to happen. Too many people living "high on the hog" at the top and mismanaging finances that eventually falls back on the little guy. I deliver to AK Steel almost daily and I frankly thought it would shut down before now. I have never seen a plant in such physical disrepair. Seems that it hasn't had any upgrades in 50 years and basically looks like a pile of scrap metal at this point. It is one of the filthiest, and unhealthiest work environments I have ever seen not to mention the polution that it spews into the community. I can hardly stand to drive past there because of the horrible sulfer and other odors. Sure doesn't make me want to stop at McDonalds to eat! In the big picture there is more to come thanks to this wonderful election where so many blinded people put a man at the top that is going to bankrupt the government as well. Congratulations we now live in an "Obama-nation"!
Posted by: ARMCO FAMILY on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:07 AM
My dad worked at AK and when it was Armco. He earned a comfortable living and struggled like everyone else at the holidays. It is called sacrifice. My dad managed to put two daughters through college, give us a good Christmas year after year, but there was not a lot left at the end of the paycheck. It is hard to do when cost rise every minute and paychecks disappear when you need them the most. Good luck AK workers. May we all find relief from this nightmare soon.
Posted by: Larry on Nov 13, 2008 at 07:40 AM
All you younger guys, do what ever you can to find another field. The steel industry is up and down. You dont want to work this way the rest of your life. Look into the medical field, something more stable. I have been there and felt the pain.
Posted by: To Heather on Nov 13, 2008 at 01:00 AM
If I spent alot of money on education and only made 50,000 to 60,000 a year I would fill cheated. You must have not taken the right job field. Good luck to all employees getting laid off. I have worked with several of them before they went to AK.
Posted by: s. lynd on Nov 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM
it amazes me how tragedy and hardship for the people who fuel our local economy brings so many uneducated and misinformed idiots out of the woodwork to revel in others' misfortune. we live in a sick and sad world. i wouldn't throw insults at some of you if you got fired from taco bell, guys. its sad that people can no longer pull together in a time like this.
Posted by: local 1865 on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:50 PM
This is to J: Get a life. What is your deal? Did you lose a wife or girlfriend to a union man or what? Do you work or do we pay for your way of life? You evidently know very little about unions. Also, the union doesn't guarantee anybody's job. Union people are still being fired for various reasons and some for none at all. Without the union they would have no chance of returning to work. And we also are not thugs any more. Those would be on the corporate side now. The Company always has the upper hand.
Posted by: An AK Wife on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:49 PM
I think people that don't know what they are talking about shouldn't comment. Right now we need possitive thinking not rude and stupid comments from jealous people. And that is all you are is jealous when you make the comments that you make. My husband works hard and long hours, and NO IT IS NOT VOLUNTEERING as someone had said. He does it because he wants to make sure that we are going to be ok and so that we can have things. We don't live a fancy life, but we both have worked hard to get everything that we have. We have had no help from anyone but us. People should thing about that old saying, if you dont have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all. We will all be ok and things will work out somehow. I am praying for the rest of the family's this affects. Stay strong!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Jase- you're stupid. Go back up your holler and be quiet
Posted by: Anon. on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:28 PM
This is not a matter of who make what and what they do with it...it is sad sign of our times, which is all to uncertain. My husband and I have survived the closing of another plant and we will survive this, As long as we keep our focus on our family and our faith in the Lord to guide us. To everything the is a purpose and a season. Our prayers are with those who are in charge of this situation as well as the state or our great nation.
Posted by: Another AK Wife on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:26 PM
To all the families: My husband has been at AK for almost two years. This is the fourth time since we have been married that he has been layed off. When he hired on at AK we were so thankful because we thought it would NEVER happen again. The last time he was laid off was two years ago, right before Christmas. We didn't know how we would make it through, but by the grace of God, somehow we did. At the time, I was working, and I ended up getting a Christmas bonus and we were out on the day before Christmas Eve buying our four children's Christmas presents. Now, I'm not working, so I'm sure that this will be more devastating than before. However, I know we will get through it, just as the rest of the families will. All these families need to stick together, and try to be positive. At least be thankful that your hubbys will be able to spend Christmas with you because I know a lot of them have not been able to in the past. All of the negative comments need to stop. It won't help a thing.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM
anybody want to be a 2004 Ford f-150 FX4???
Posted by: Toheather: on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:17 PM
My husband and I are BOTH college educated. We also have 4 school age children, 2 aren't even 2 yet. My husband works overtime so I stay home with them. How we live, what kind of cars we drive, the clothes we wear is none of your business. Think of it this way, when your husband is home on Christmas morning watching his kids open gifts, or when he's at every ball game; mine is at the mill.....working to pay YOUR school taxes......$1500 last year and we live in OhIO!!! Not to mention 35% of his salary goes to uncle sam to pay for KY's outstanding welfare rate! These men and women earn every penny they get at AK and more.....they are in unimaginable heat in the summer, freezing cold in the winter. you need to quit being mean to people and sympathize a bit. Nobody wants to be laid off, we just want to take care of our families!
Posted by: robert on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:05 PM
to all the ak steel workers, i feel your pain. now is not a good time to be laid off. i have been there. it really hurts, regardless wether, u make 5.00 an hr. or 40.00 an hr. i retired from a union paper plant, as an hourly worker. i have been laid off, not knowing what i was going to do, but i made it, and you will too. its never easy, to get laid off, or to lose your jobs, and have to start over. keep your chin up, and keep your faith in God. people in the great state of w.v. are survivors. you will get through this. please post this.
Posted by: anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:47 PM
I dont know why anyone would be so mean ANY job lost hurts everyone in the area my prayers are with the workers and familys
Posted by: K on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:39 PM
Hey J. You should be forever greatful to the Union. Without them you would be making 7 dollars per hour to do what ever it is you do. Do some research!!
Posted by: Beth Ann on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:38 PM
Some of these comments are very rude. I feel badly for these workers that got laid off and they have families that now they have to worry about even more. My prayers go out to each and everyone of them, and hope everything works out for you.
Posted by: J on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:54 PM
You all complaining about the ex-CEO pay, think about what you are saying. Two men who negotiated their own contracts managed to take home more when they were fired than the union thugs will take home in a lifetime. Keep thinking Union Yes. Maybe your gov't cheese will be made by a union member.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Anyone seen Mark?????
Posted by: SUE on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:17 PM
This is a sign of our economy!!!! And you people that leave NASTY comments, till you woalk in their shoes...don't judge them!
Posted by: momof4 on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:47 PM
TO TW ON NOV.12 AT 9:31AM...... YOU HAVE ISSUES. WHATS WRONG??? COULDNT YOU PASS THE WRITTEN TEST OR THE DRUG TEST TO GET ON THERE?? I JUST WISH THESE GUY MADE HALF THE MONEY YOU ALL ASSUME THEY DID. WE DIDNT ALL RUNOUT AND BUY NEW HOUSES AND CARS AND PARTY IT ALL AWAY. WE HAVE A FAMILY TO RAISE. KIDS TO FEED AND PUT CLOTHES ON. YOU, MY FRIEND MUST FALL INTO THE WHINEY UNDERPAID GROUP THAT JUST LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE FALL. WHAT, YOUR WELFARE CHECK CANT COMPETE??? IF YOU NEED ANY EXTRA CASH, JUST LOOK ME UP. WE ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP A POOR DIEING SOUL. HOPE YOU GET ALL YOU DESERVE THIS CHRISTMAS!!
Posted by: ObamaFan on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:46 PM
Corporate NOT Union! $63mil payout in 2004 for 2 men to be FIRED. This is why we have a Union to receive our earned fair share! For all you bad mouthing Unions, you must like to be scrooged. AK Steel previously paid Hritz $250,000 and Wardrop $650,000 of the almost $63 million combined total both are due. Given its financial situation, the company said it hoped to negotiate the balances. http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/01/23/biz_aksteel23.html
Posted by: Gary Smith on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:41 PM
Shoot guys as long as we have enough money for a bag of chew we will all be o k. My biggest concern is not knowing how long it will take to get back on Q when we do get running again. The bakehard material is so hard to run when you have certain inspectors working. I knew we were in big trouble when they took my golf cart from me last year.
Posted by: J on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:30 PM
I sympathize with the workers laid off, but you can thank your union. Artificially inflating wages and guaranteeing that no one loses their job no matter how lazy, unsafe or unproductive they are has bankrupted not only the steel industry, but also the auto industry. If your union is such an awesome group, let them task the risks and provide you a job. They were just thugs muscling in on money that wasn't theirs to begin with.
Posted by: AK12 on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:22 PM
It's not going to get better anytime soon. Get in line at the welfare office. Cut up the credit cards! Just be happy most of you will receive some type of assistance through this. It could be worse! God will get some attention now hopefully from those who never give him the time of day. I agree with Lou.
Posted by: ObamaFan on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:03 PM
Now that we are over Tom the Twit. For those arguing about Union. Let me shed some light to the subject. Check the history: The Ex-CEO and the Ex-President of AKSteel (obviously not Union members), the Board had to pay them 30 million dollar EACH severance package by their contract. And you want to get on the little Union worker that is laid off? When the Board fired them they had to pay them 30 mil to be FIRED. The stock at that time was worth $2.00 a share; a few years later the stock shot up to 70.00 share on the sweat of the union workers and what you consider them being rich wages. Doesn't come close to the Corporate salary. Do your math for what 2 men recieved for 700 workers. GO JOE!!!!!!!!
Posted by: jase on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:42 PM
well first off if somebodys putt in 60 hours a week somewhere then i would say that thats their own stupidity you know i work with people who do the same stuff and when you look at em the next day they look like zombies you know what it is when we all get right down to it is people have become money hungry to many people try and live beyond their means you sit there and say oh my dear husband he works 60 hours a week in that plant what a hard workin man lol until he falls over dead at 50 years old instead of sittin back every now and then to smell the roses this world has become about how much do ya have and how can i get more to put it in simple terms quit tryin to keep up with the joness and what kind of union do you have anyway that make's somebody work 6o hour's a week thats what union's are for to make sure the company dont kill ya with runnin you in the ground i got two sister's who try to keep up with everybody else so this overtime is prolly voluntery
Posted by: Mtngrown on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:41 PM
I am an AK worker who drives a long commute to the plant everyday. There are alot of employees who have given up alot to keep this plant running. They have sacrificed friends, family, church, holidays and family events. You would think that a company of this magnitude would show some appreciation towards this group of individuals that have helped set and break there own world record mulitiple times. Especially, when there Middle Town Plant is still running. You will never find a better group of diversed workers anywhere in the United States that will work harder than the ones at Ashland Works.
Posted by: ObamaFan on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:39 PM
by: TOM on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:48 AM WHAT DOES A REAL UNEMPLOYED, OVERPAID, UNGRATEFUL UNION WORKER REALLY LOOK LIKE? A DUMMY. Look like a dummy? I didn't know your momma was unemployed. I have a special place for steel toed boots for you Tom. You must be in your 30's laying around your mommy and daddy's house with your finger on the remote control and your thumb in your behind. Your momma must not have read my complete comment to you. I clearly stated how grateful I am to our Union. Better go now Tom I hear your mommy calling you. We will prevail sisters and brothers of Local 1865. Stand Tall, Stand strong, stand together.
Posted by: Former employee on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:36 PM
I worked for AK until about 6 years ago and I learned one thing. I will never again work in an environment where the supervisers don't care about the employees. Everyday was torture and people constantly got fired for any reason no mater what it was. I felt I had no future so I moved on to another career. This is just another example of the greed and heartlessness of the guys at the top.
Posted by: (JOE BROUGHTON LOCAL 1865 STEELWORKER) on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:29 PM
{HEY TW} WHY IS IT THAT ALL YOU BIG TALKERS NEVER LEAVE A NAME ON SUCH STRONG TALK? I GUESS ITS BECAUSE THATS ALL IT IS TALK! SIGNED LOCAL 1865 STEELWORKER JOE BROUGHTON (# in the book call me(Posted by: TW on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:31 AM HOW DOES IT FELL? THE REASON THEY ARE CLOSING UP IS BECAUSE OF THE UNIONS. TWENTY YEARS AGO THERE WERE PLANTS ALL UP AND DOWN THE RIVER, BUT THE UNIONS AND MEMBERS WERE SO GREEDY THEY HAD TO CLOSE BECAUSE OF LABOR COSTS. CRY ME A RIVER, IT COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED AT A BETTER TIME. AT LEAST YOU HAD A TEN DAY NOTICE. SOUNDS LIKE YOU OVERPAID, WHINEY, UNGRATEFUL UNION MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE SAVED SOME OF THE MONEY THAT YOU WERE OVERPAID. YOU MAKE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AND CAN'T EVEN MAKE A QUALITY CAR. THE KOREANS MAKE BETTER CARS THAN YOU OVERPAID, WHINEY WORKERS. REMEMBER THE SAYING, WE MUST HAVE MADE IT ON FRIDAY. LOOKS LIKE ALL THE JUNK YOU BUILT WAS BUILT ON FRIDAY. GOOD LUCK FINDING A JOB THAT PAYS YOU WHAT YOUY DON'T DESERVE. HA HA. MERRY CHRISTma
Posted by: larry bradley on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:06 PM
I would like to invite all the local 1865 union members over to my house for the holidays this year. Just to try to do my part during this diffcult time! I want to extend my hand to all of you affected by this terrible turn of events, if there is anything I can do, just like you can come to my office at the workplace , feel free to come to my house an talk, knowing how much you all have given to AK STEEL I LARRY BRADLEY want to give back to you LOCAL 1865 members! HAPPY THANKSGIVING AN MERRY CHRISTMAS, AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU THIS HOLIDAY SEASON
Posted by: Anon. on Nov 12, 2008 at 05:59 PM
I made the comments about Walmart, Taco Bell needing workers. If I were laid off, I sure wouldn't sit around and belly-ache about it. I'd go out and get some sort of job even if it meant Walmart, Taco Bell, or other retail job. $8.00/hr is better than $0.00/hr don't ya think?
Posted by: Christmas on Nov 12, 2008 at 05:47 PM
OK, I really believe the ones that are whinning are the ones that don't get our charity for Christmas. My husband has worked there for years and we always gave to the poor. Now it is time to take care of each other. AK Steel will not do it and the UNION is out, my youngest is 21 and I am going thru the closets looking for games and clothes. If you have small children and need Christmas for them we need to figure out something, we need to show what AK workers and their families are made out of. Lets get this going to give the kids a Christmas and maybe we can show each other there is hope.
Posted by: AK Employee on Nov 12, 2008 at 05:38 PM
Yes, the employees of AK do live well, and I'm very thankful to have a job there. But let me remind everyone that we all work hard and we earn every dime we are paid. It sounds to me like the people who are complaining about AK employees and how we live are the people who are jealous of us and are probably on welfare. So instead of talking bad about us, you might want to wish we could get back so you can continue to draw your monthly check.
Posted by: Just me on Nov 12, 2008 at 05:28 PM
Blame this on Obama he is already messing things up. Just wait until he takes office. I don't blame any company for shutting its doors. I would be afraid of the future too! Thanks america for your screwed up vote! ! !
Posted by: To Heather, AGAIN on Nov 12, 2008 at 05:21 PM
My husband works at AK and I would be willing to bet that he has had more education than you. As a matter of fact, as a business major in college, he looked into accounting and decided it would not provide much income in this area. I'm glad that you and your husband can handle it. However, to assume that these men are uneducation and imply they are less than you and your husband is a disgrace. My husband decided to work at AK not because we want to live lavishly, but because we want to pay our bills. I think as your second child comes into this world (I will be praying for its health) that you will realize the cost of one child vs the cost of 2 is a big difference. To those of you that said maybe these employees should consider their income before they had more children, I'm sure the majority did. What criteria should they consider in your eyes? I'm sure you might say their jobs/income, right? You make no sense. You couldn't afford to live either if you lost your job.
Posted by: rd on Nov 12, 2008 at 04:53 PM
Although I have not cared much for AK since they forced my father to retire early years ago. I can't belive the comments made by people who care more about what people have then what they have to lose. So what if people worked hard or didn't work hard to get the nice things they have. I believe everyone tries to get the best for there family. What does education have to do with the jobs they have. These people were hired because they were capable of performing the work. Not all jobs require a education. In todays world its hard enough just to find people to show up for work everyday. The problems are not dem. or rep. All you have to do is read the comments where people don't care what is happening to other humans. They only care about if they have more than them. I wouldn't care if AK lost everything as long as the employees that made them all the money were taken care of.I hope things work out before christmas. Think of the children and the parents. Good Luck and God Bless
Posted by: Raven on Nov 12, 2008 at 04:22 PM
Todays Poll dont forget to vote-Yesterday, 62% of you said Congress should NOT help the struggling auto industry with financial assistance. Has your opinion changed in the wake of the news of the layoffs at the local steel companies?Why would we help the Auto industry when more and more of their support plants like A/K and others are being closed or curtailed. The Federal Goverment needs to look at All the industries and stop the layoffs, How is Anyone going to afford to buy a new car when we are all on the street looking for work.Makes no sense to me.
Posted by: Nick on Nov 12, 2008 at 03:45 PM
Mike Hewlett President of local 1865, will do all he can do for members in this situation. It's time to gather and help each other through this difficult time.
Posted by: AK family on Nov 12, 2008 at 03:34 PM
I am the daughter of an AK employee, niece of an AK employee. I married an AK emlployee two months ago and my cousin for a company employed by AK all of these hard working men have families includding children. This layoff has had a serious effect on all four of them. Our family is a close amily that when times get hard we pull togeather to help each other out. Its going to be hard to do that this time since everyone seems to be in bad times. We are hoping that things will get better soon and they are able to open back up in January. I also hope that the this area is able to pull through this hard time. And to the ones making rude comments. My dad worked hard for 20 years as a truck driver being gone all the time and missing out on his childrens lives, being hired at AK was a blessing because he could finaly be able to tuck his kids into bed at night, but he still works very hard to make ends meet just because your an AK employee doesn't mean your filthy rich.
Posted by: Ginny on Nov 12, 2008 at 03:33 PM
I am sick of people who think AK employees should have saved for a rainy day. Thats easier said than done. Before you speak take a look in the mirror are you so superior I wonder. AK employees work hard and long They deserve nice things. Jealousy serves no purpose. If you don't like it tough! These men and women are in for tough times just like anyone being laid off. Watch the news AK is not alone. As for the holidays we'll do what we can and enjoy being together. As for the union get your story straight. I know for a fact the union officers have been working hard for everyone.If you have questions go to the hall and ask quit listening to rumors. Ignorance is bliss!!As for Ak they have no controll over the economy.We will survive this....
Posted by: local 1865 on Nov 12, 2008 at 03:31 PM
To AK degas wife: Who did your husband work for? I don't think its AK. AK hasn't laid off anybody at the Ashland Works yet. Does he work for fesseco or vesuvius? To Heather: Your math leaves one major thing out: The 90,000 dollar figure is achieved by working alot more than 40 hrs. a week. It's more like 56 or even 64. Do the math then and you will see an average per hour rate of around $31.00. That is an average. You have to figure overtime is anything over 8 hrs. in one day and/or more than 40 hrs. per week.
Posted by: TO BRANDY on Nov 12, 2008 at 03:16 PM
you are truley a kind hearted person, and I agree with you 100%
Posted by: SINC. THOUGHTS on Nov 12, 2008 at 03:14 PM
to Heather--my husband makes 79900 gross income for the year and is not allowed overtime.. HOWEVER bring home is alot less. by sept. they had already taken out over 20,000 in taxes. And i know from exper. with Ironton Iron that the more overtime you work the more taxes get taken out..So the taxes AK workers are paying some way or another trickle down to pay your husbands salary in part. And for the comment about getting an ed. I honestly don't think you have taken a look at tuition prices or books lately
Posted by: chad on Nov 12, 2008 at 03:04 PM
to heather. i agree people these days do tend to live beyond their means. however in your caculation you are only considering straight time. These guys and gals much like where i work are putting in 20 and 30 hrs overtime a week if not more. so you cant calculate an hourly rate by your formula. most guys at ak make anywhere from $12/hr. to $23/hr with your most senior union members. also to the comment on if they werent union they might still have a job....if they were non union they would be working for about $7/hr. with no benefits. the union was voted in as a means of protection from unfare wages and benefits from greedy ceo's that wouldnt pay that if they didnt have to. i make $20/hr...not at ak steel... and make just enough to pay the bills....and i have nothing fancy... $50,000 home and truck thats 12 years old and a car thats 8 years old..a wife and a son. we live within our means and i have a good job till nov. 20 when i too get laid off and am barely making it.
Posted by: BRANDY on Nov 12, 2008 at 02:26 PM
TO THE AK WIFES: My prayers are with you and your families. I cant imagine the stress that you will endure in the weeks and months to come. To all of you beating up on them about worrying about Christmas, I believe these wives know that God will see them thru but the reality is that this will be a difficult thing to explain to their small children. Whether you like it or not, Christmas is a lot about gifts for toddlers and small children even if you try to instill the true meaning to them. They dont understand the concept of money and I would hate to think that anyone out there would want small children to be disappointed on Christmas morning. Again to the AK wives, I will not beat you down for legitimate concerns about and may God see you through. Let go and let God. From a WV wife and mom. God Bless!
Posted by: Charlie on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:56 PM
I hope everyone effected will be able to find work hopefully close to home but seems things are hard all over the US.Folks there are only a couple of big employers in the area Ash land oil has left Armco shutting down whats next RR? Well I can tell ya one thing if the RR goes into idle we will all be fighting over a Nabisco nab. I to am very sorry for these families effected. Looks like some of that 700 billion could go to keeping places like this open or help DHL laying off everyone. How many foreclosures will this bring? Terrible days. If Obama wants to impress us he should make these jobs priority not wall street.
Posted by: jm on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:54 PM
My husband has worked hard to get the job he has at AK and we consider it a blessing to have it. He and I BOTH are educated adults and work hard for what we have, and will continue to do so. To the people that have left such mean comments....how dare you! You don't know what it's like to work there, or to be married to someone that sometimes puts in 60 hours a week all while you work 40 hours a week yourself! As a matter of fact we have do have a very nice home, 2 new cars and vacation regulary BUT we both work very hard to have all of those things, and for your information we do not have credit card debit and we are not asking for a hand out! I look forward to have my husband home for the holidays, it will be a first since I have known him for us to wake up Christmas morning together. I am praying everyone and everything will be okay during this time. God dosen't give you anymore than you can handle and to all the families like us our there, we WILL make it through this!
Posted by: Concerned Citizen on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:52 PM
I hate that the AK workers are going to be laid off. My prayers and thoughts go out to all of the families this will affect. I have an uncle and a brother in law that works at AK. They work hard for what they get paid. They have earned every dime that they have got. From working double shifts and overtime and holidays.I have seen my uncle come in from a 12 hour shift and sleep for a couple hours and go straight back to work. So for all of those rude and selfish people out there that are sterotyping the AK workers shame on you!!! Yes they may have earned a fairly nice living but so could you if you tried to.Everything that is happening in the world today is all fortold in the Bible, so we need to be careful and obey Gods commands.
Posted by: AK WIFE on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:28 PM
We all will have to make due with what we will be getting (unemployment). Just remember the Reason for the Season .CHRIST mas is not all about the gifts. hopefully this will not last long . there is NOTHING guaranteed in life, We were fortunate to have it good for so long,
Posted by: Beth Ann on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:17 PM
Prayers go out to all the ones that was laid off and their families. Sorry you have to go through this especially around the Holidays.
Posted by: Holdontight on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:04 PM
Hope you have a nest egg!
Posted by: agb on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:56 PM
For Heather: In a time when these poor working class people, like my brother, may possibly have to find a new job-maybe you should get out and get you some education starting with a nice healthy dose of reality. Regardless of how much he makes (which is way less than your uneducated guess of 37.00 an hour) he is still a human being with a wife and three children to support. So what? He deserves to be without a job because he is not as clueless and uneducated as you are on issues concerning the real world? I suppose he will possibly be needing a job sometime in the near future- you on the other hand need to get a life.
Posted by: AK Degas Wife on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:53 PM
I have read and read all the comments....first off my husband was was laid off 2 weeks ago and was told in his department this was going to happen. But was going to just be a few week deal. They called him and wanted him to come back next week for one week, which we said no because there is no point in it and messing up the unemployment. He received his first unemployment check today and it was for 2 weeks what he makes in 1. My husband does not make no 37 an hour not even 20, we do not own out home we rent we do not have fancy cars we have a car that is paid for and is almost 10 years old. We do not dress in fancy clothes and neither do our children. We pay our regular bills put food on the table and get the kids to where ever they need to be. So ppl need to know the fact before they say things they have on here. This is going to hurt everyone in the area. AK does business with Mansback and CSX so how is it going to effect them.
Posted by: TO local 1865 on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:52 PM
If you honestly think that this economy is a mess because of 2yrs of congress democrat rule, THEN YOU ARE THE IDIOT!!!! BUSH BEEN IN 8 YRS, REPUBLICANS FOR MORE YOU MOORON!
Posted by: Heather on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I am just going off of what Chris said. Do the math. It's right there in plain sight. To the AK Wife that said their husband makes 90K a year... 90,000 divided by a 40 hour work week divided by 52 weeks is $43 an hour! Guess this just proves that some people do make $37 an hour! I know what house payments, car payments, and general bills are. My husband and I do have a house, a decent vehicle (2006 Dodge Durango), and utility bills. We also have a toddler and another on the way. It IS hard for us to save as well. Still, between us we make about $50-60,000 a year and do save a bit of money. Some should stop living beyond their means. I totally agree with the person that made the comments about frivolously (sp?) spending money. Here's another thing to look at, How many of the workers went to college? What kind of higher education did they get before taking a job at AK Steel? If they had a degree at least they would have that to fall back on...
Posted by: RELAX AK WIVES on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:13 PM
CALM DOWN! You will return to work in Jan. One day at a time. You are not in control of this situation. Now would be a good time to downsize. In an unstable economy there is no security. I bet 99% of the employees at AK live well above the standards they should be living taking their jobs for granted and the $90,000 income. If you are in debt, now is the time to get out of debt. If you are in extreme debt you may need to look for a good bankruptcy attorney. This is a wake up call for many! You will survive you just might not have all of those almighty luxurious items that you are used to having. I am speaking from experience.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I am a AK wife and I want to know where are all the local politicans???? If you knew history, KY had only 3 Republic Governors since it was discovered. So, where are the Dems???? I also want to know why you go on Toyota web page and they are hiring down in Georgetown, and they just open a new plant down in Indiana. I thought they were AK's #1 customer!!!! I just wonder if we will still have to pay union dues....
Posted by: Jobe on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:00 PM
It's a sad fact of life,no one thinks it can or will happen to them,if they did it would mean planning ahead.Can we afford more kids, a huge mortgage,new car payment,savings for emergency and a lot of big toys?Dad always said"it's not how much you make,but how much you owe".Knock the union,the company or individuals and refuse to think maybe,just maybe,some of my future problems may be a little bit of my doing.
Posted by: WESS MARTIN on Nov 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM
AS FOR JOE CHARLES COMMENT I WILL TALK TO YOU LATER JOE.
Posted by: Ex-employee on Nov 12, 2008 at 11:32 AM
We have all been through this before in the last big layoff a few years ago. After losing everything we owned, you just start over, save more money and dont live above your means.
Posted by: lou on Nov 12, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Maybe people need to get back to putting God first.In American today it seems people aren't satisfied with a modest home. They have to have 3 bathrooms instead of 2,4 bedrooms instead of 3and so on. Most people have their mind on make all you can. Work overtime and more overtime. Could be that God is trying to get Americas attention. Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all of this will be added unto you. GOd is still in control!
Posted by: ak employee on Nov 12, 2008 at 11:12 AM
give me a break ,I as an ak employee have woked many long hours to make the big money ak employees indure alot of extreme heat and cold I guess no one knows the dangers we face everyday steel work is not the safest job.This will impact all jobs in this area we will not be spending our HARD earned money to keep local business going or paying taxes to fix everyones roads and who will pay for your foodstamps and free housing.A chunk comes out of our check to do so.we are hard working people that are needed in this area to keep YOU going.Yes this will roll down to everyone.some people are really idiots
Posted by: I DO BELIEVE IN GOD on Nov 12, 2008 at 11:03 AM
TO THOSE WHO SAY SOME DONT BELIEVE IN GOD JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT HE WILL NOT PAY THE BILLS. LET GOD BE THE JUDGE OF THAT. THEY ARE ANGRY AND THEY HAVE EVERY REASON TO BE. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THEM WORRING ABOUT CHRISTMAS ITS JUST BECAUSE IT IS CLOSE. IM SURE IF YOU TAKE JUST A MOMENT YOU WOULD SEE THAT THERE IS MORE CONCERN THAN JUST CHRISTMAS.. IF YOU HEAT WITH GAS IT COSTS 368.00 JUST FOR 150 GALLONS. AND WITH THE COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE IT IS SOMETIMES HARD TO HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY LAYING AROUND. AND DONT SAY THEN HEAT WITH WOOD BC IF YOU DONT HAVE THE EQUIP. FOR THAT THEN THAT COSTS EVEN MORE.. PLEASE DONT JUDGE THEM AND SAY THAT THEY ARE JUST WORRIED ABOUT CHRISTMAS BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ALL THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT
Posted by: Tricia on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:53 AM
I can not believe some of the comments made about AK workers and their families. People get on here and talk about how they wear name brand clothing and have nice things. Here is a news flash for you, that is what working hard and wanting more gets you. Sorry but I have little sympathy for you. My heart goes out to the families and children effected by this lay-off.
Posted by: country boy on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:52 AM
THANKS "W"
Posted by: TOM on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:48 AM
TO OBAMAFAN, MAYBE YOU NEED TO SEE ABOUT FLIPPING HAMBURGERS IF YOUR QUALIFIED. CHECK WITH THE UNION TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET YOU A JOB. WHAT DOES A REAL UNEMPLOYED, OVERPAID, UNGRATEFUL UNION WORKER REALLY LOOK LIKE? A DUMMY.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:44 AM
To all of you who feel like shaming AK employees for their lavish spending: I don't know any mill employee that resides in a $200K plus home. Also, I believe that we all usually choose our homes and vehicles (My husband works at AK and ours are rather modest, thank you.)based on what we can afford. So, I don't think any of the accountants, etc are living as if they are convenient store clerks, just as doctors do not live as if they are steel workers. Just because we may have had a few more possessions (or the same) as you, doesn't mean that we haven't lived w/in our means, or that we always shop on credit and have to have new clothes when we go out. These postings ring so much jealousy it is almost obscene.
Posted by: To: anon on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:00 AM on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Anon: I'm sorry to say that we don't live in a 200,000-300,000 home, nor do many of my husband's fellow coworkers. I agree that people need to live within their means, but you cannot stereotype these workers as to be that way. We live a very middle class life, we would love to have nice things, but all we want to do is provide for our children. Our kids wear hand me down clothes, and we don't walk out of the house wearing new outfits. That is absurd! My Dad worked at AK for 44 years, and I grew up living a middle class life too. All everyone wants is to provide a comfortable life for their families. While I'm sure that many people may overextend theirselves with credit obligations, there are many of us out there who don't! Shame on you for thinking that these men and women who have lost their jobs only care about material things!
Posted by: To Heather on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Good for you that you feel that you can shame someone in a time like this. You can be proud that you know that you will not lose your accounting job and that your husband won't lose his x-ray tech job. It must be great to have such job security. As for saving for a time like this, I hope you can, because your time may come. I'm sure you'll be prepared though.
Posted by: ohio guy on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Yes people, times are pretty hard right now with all these layoffs. Yes I currently have a job but I have been through layoffs many times too. I dealt with it as if it was a blessing. Yes I worried about putting food on the table and presents under the tree but the time that I got to spend with my family was well worth it. Material things can be replaced but the gift of spending quality time with your family can't. People enjoy this time off with your families! May God Bless Each of You and Your Families!
Posted by: anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM
I agree with the ObamaFan, How many people at AK Steel shops at Walmart? or drives none american cars, or who voted for BUSH? Im really was'nt for Obama but I seen it coming 4 years ago and that is when we should have voted Bush out....Why did McCain win in Kentucky and West Virginia........dont make sence. I am sorry for AK Steel employees but your not the only ones there is more to come.....
Posted by: TO ANON on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:26 AM
i am an hourly worker thats getting laid off...if you think that all of us that work at ak are a bunch of spoon-fed spoiled brats UR WRONG PAL!!! ive gone thru the ranks to get my job!!! i went to school and got an education while flopping chicken at kfc. ive worked at many low paying jobs just to put food on my table for my kids!!! so its not like ive been handed a good paying job with not having to work for that job...and if it takes me flopping chicken again to continue to feed my kids so be it!!! so go get urself an education and maybe you can get a good paying job then ur stupid little comments might change...
Posted by: Jamie on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Well i am going to say weather you are making 37 an hour or 10 an hour you live how you live like the person making 37 probably has a bigger house and car payment then the 10 an hour person. You get used to what you make so dont be jealous of these people for making good money. Everyone would like to make more money. My husband is a Millwright and works out of a union hall and yes sometimes it gets rough living off of unemployment. I however belive that buying gifts for your children for Christmas should be the least of your worries. I am a mother of a young kid so dont try to say that i dont understand. We do a lot of traveling now so we do not have to draw unemployment now, I am just here to tell everyone that there is a life outside of ashland and there are some really good jobs out there if you are willing. Just to tell everyone Ak dont want to go bankrupt and never have a job for these people that is cause for layoff.
Posted by: unappreciated spouse of AK on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:19 AM
I'm looking forward to having my husband home for the holidays!! You wives know about the 16 hour days your husbands have to work due to under staffing, so you should be happy for the break. Both AK Steel and the Steelworkers Union are never forthcoming and commonly mislead and undermine the workers, so what's the big deal now? You've dealt with the backstabbing lies from AK Management and the union dues that are unbelieveably high for a job that many consider equivilent to "winnig the lottery"?? Working at AK Steel is NOT what many of you think it is, so I look at this lay off as an opportunity for my husband and I to enjoy the holidays together without the phone ringing as soon as he gets home from work to come back. Besides, the "honey do" list of mine has been "IDLE" for way too long!
Posted by: Mike on Nov 12, 2008 at 10:19 AM
i think it should stay open
Posted by: brian on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:45 AM
ATTENTION ALL AK STEEL WORKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! since you are all in one accord now, called laid-off status, when AK STEEL NEEDS YOU BACK YOU BETTER BE MAN ENOUGH TO TELL HEADQUARTERS WHERE TO GO TO, SINCE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU. AND YOUR ON UI OR WELFARE. OTHERWISE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PANZY LITTLE CALL BOY FOR AK STEEL.
Posted by: Ak Wife on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:39 AM
As a wife of an AK Employee I was devastated to hear about the lay off at AK Steel. I have really prayed about the situation for all of the employees and the hardship everyone will be going through. However, I have been thinking about a lady that I worked with that is going through a bigger struggle than I can even imagine. This lady has a little boy that has brain cancer and is really going through a tough time. When I see situations like this I feel blessed at what all God has given me. I have a beautiful healthy baby girl , a wonderful husband, wonderful family, and a awesome God. With all of the negativity around us right now it is hard to look at the positive side of things but just remember that things could be so much worse
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:37 AM
I'm truly sorry to hear about the situation at Ak. I have friends and family that work there and I know that it will be tough to adjust to but with God all things are possible. You are not the only people this is happening to and we need to remember everyone in our country that is being affected with this same situation. Stay strong and just trust in God and you will be OK.
Posted by: amanda on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:31 AM
why are u not posting my comments? i would advise u to post them.
Posted by: TW on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:31 AM
HOW DOES IT FELL? THE REASON THEY ARE CLOSING UP IS BECAUSE OF THE UNIONS. TWENTY YEARS AGO THERE WERE PLANTS ALL UP AND DOWN THE RIVER, BUT THE UNIONS AND MEMBERS WERE SO GREEDY THEY HAD TO CLOSE BECAUSE OF LABOR COSTS. CRY ME A RIVER, IT COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED AT A BETTER TIME. AT LEAST YOU HAD A TEN DAY NOTICE. SOUNDS LIKE YOU OVERPAID, WHINEY, UNGRATEFUL UNION MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE SAVED SOME OF THE MONEY THAT YOU WERE OVERPAID. JOIN THE REST OF THE WORLD. SAME THING WITH YOU UAW GUYS. YOU MAKE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AND CAN'T EVEN MAKE A QUALITY CAR. THE KOREANS MAKE BETTER CARS THAN YOU OVERPAID, WHINEY WORKERS. REMEMBER THE SAYING, WE MUST HAVE MADE IT ON FRIDAY. LOOKS LIKE ALL THE JUNK YOU BUILT WAS BUILT ON FRIDAY. GOOD LUCK FINDING A JOB THAT PAYS YOU WHAT YOUY DON'T DESERVE. HA HA. MERRY CHRISTMASS.
Posted by: AK Wife on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:30 AM
To anon on Nov 12 at 1:00 am..not everyone lives it up..working at ak steel...we live in doublewide trailer...have regular vehicles..just like every one else...regardless of what people think..as for my family...we dont need material things to be happy..but having that AK check come in every week takes care of our living expenses and having clothes and food for 6 kids...before you go and make sterotypes for the AK Steel workers...maybe you should get the facts straight.. several of our friends and family members also live a modest life.. not every one is concerned with keeping up with the Jones's..
Posted by: BSC on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:29 AM
This country will learn the hard way to save. I admit, I don’t know much about the pay structure at AK Steel, but I would imagine most of the workers made much better than the per capita average for the area. Yet, how many have 6 months salary in savings? I would imagine much fewer than drive new cars, own boats, ATVs, and flat screen TVs. Layoffs are unfortunate, but unnecessary blame is always directed toward the company. The majority of the workers should instead be thanking AK for the work they had. Where else can a high school educated individual collect that much salary? By all rights, several AK workers should have been wearing paper hats in a drive-through window. It’s cold and unpleasant, but it is reality. Instead of spending like mad, most should have learned to save. Also, I beg the world to include more financial education in high school curriculum. We must understand the economy before it can be “fixed”.
Posted by: Debbie on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:19 AM
I hate to see anyone lose their job, but one of the anon posters made a good point, even if it was mired in jealousy. I learned at an early age that the rug can come out from under you at any time when my father died suddenly during my childhood. People do need to tighten their belts and stop being so materialistic and save some money. That is VERY true. I'm still sorry for the workers though.I know folks making over 250,000 a year who can't manage their money as well. I think money management should be a required course in school.
Posted by: Captain Obvious. on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:15 AM
Some of the comments on here are the most ill-informed, misguided ramblings I have ever read. Try to find the ones I'm talking about.
Posted by: t&l wife on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:57 AM
THIS IS TO ALL AK FAMILIES,MY HUSBAND ALSO WORKS THERE,I HAD NO SLEEP LAST NIGHT WORRING ABOUT ALL THIS,PEOPLE GET ON HERE AND PUT RUDE COMMENTS,WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR AT THIS TIME,WE HAVE ENOUGH ON OUR PLATES AS IT IS,AND THAT DOESNT HELP.BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOUR FAMILIES TO,WE HAVE ALL BEEN THROUGH HARD TIMES IN THE PAST AND SOMEHOW WE ALWAYS SEEM TO BOUNCE BACK,SO PLEASE JUST HAVE FAITH THAT THIS WILL BE ONE OF THOSE TIMES!GOD BLESS EVERYONE OF YOU.WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THE UNION IS WORKING ON THIS AND IF ANYONE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE IT WILL BE THE UNION PRESIDENT THATS WORKING DAY AND NIGHT TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE DONE RIGHT!!!!!I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYD HE IS ONE TOUGH DAWG,THAT WILL GET IT DONE!AND I WILL BE PRAYING FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY ALSO!!!!!!
Posted by: local 1865 on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:54 AM
For all you people saying the Union let you down, what did you expect? Did you want the Union lying to you? Nobody truly knew AK's intentions until yesterday afternoon. Direct your anger toward AK for not providing the answers, because i personally know that the questions were ask time and again by the Union. Everybody that works at the plant knew it was coming. They may not have wanted to believe it. So don't blame the Union. How many of the whiners on here have been to a Union meeting? We have one every second Monday of the month.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:38 AM
This is sad news. My grandfather worked at the plant and made a good living for his family. This was back in the 60's. He has since passed on.
Posted by: momof4 on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:28 AM
Heather.....you an idiot. $37.00...I wish. My husband has worked there for 9 years. We thankfully didnt run out and buy a house or cars. We did buy one new car but that was because we have 4 kids now and needed something we all could fit in. People think these guys are just rolling in the dough. Oh how I wish that were true. Think before you speak people and thank goodness I am married to a man that if he would have to go to Taco Bell or Wal-mart to work, he would!!!
Posted by: george on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:12 AM
Heather - If you were truly an accountant you would have considered the fact that the corporate savings include additional manufacturing costs incurred to produce the finished goods. The savings is not entirely labor. However this is not the important issue. The issue is we all have many friends and family members employed by this facility and our thoughts and prayers should be with them now, not against them.
Posted by: Just Me on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:11 AM
In these poor economic times, any lay off is a bad thing. Every person has different situations and no one should be put down because they were unable to save. My job is not in jepardy due to the nature of the business, but I am still not able to save. Recently, I had to pay extra in gasoline, and now that winter is coming the natural gas bill will go up. If I faced a lay off, I would not survive. My dad worked at AK for years and years, he retired in the 90s. This was always a concern. May all of you land on your feet and may the economy bounce back quickly.
Posted by: AK AMANDA on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:29 AM
I WORK IN THE HIGHEST PAYING POSITION AT ASHLAND WHICH IS JC5 AND EVEN WITH WEEKLY BONUS AND SUCH IS NO WHERE NEAR 37 HOUR. MAYBE YOU ARE THINKING OF TIME AND A HALF. I MADE OVER $100000LAST YEAR AND WILL MAKE THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR BEFORE BEING SHUT DOWN. IT IS VERY GOOD MONEY BUT YOU TAKE THE GOOD WITH THE BAD AND DO HAVE TO WORK OVERTIME TO MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY. BESIDES IT IS THE BEST JOB IN THE AREA. MARATHON BUBBAS HAVE TO WORK 6 OR 7 12 HOURS SHIFTS TO MAKE THAT KINDA OF MONEY. WE WORK 1 OT A WEEK USUALLY AND BUST THAT. IT WILL BE HARD FOR EVERYONE TO ADJUST FOR AWHILE.AND THE UNION REALLY HAS NO SAY SO IN WHAT THE COMPANY WANTS TO DO WITH THEIR COMPANY. ALL THEY CAN LEGALLY DO IS GRIPE. THAT IS WHAT A UNION IS FOR. THE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN.
Posted by: B on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:19 AM
My husband is an employee of AK. He told me there was a clause in the contract stating AK must give them a 60 day notice of any layoff and that definately hasn't happened. He has been unofficially told his last day is the 19th. That is why the union president is trying to get them 2 months of full salary before unemployment kicks in. We also heard a rumor that Middletown was going to begin taking shipments from the coke plant so the blast furnace may never again run. He said another statement in the contract says AK can't run the mill in Middletown and not run the one in Ashland. Therefore, according to the contract Ashland will be running again but no one knows when. It will have a terrible impact on our family. I read in another comment that all AK people drive fancy cars and live in fancy houses. That's nonsense!! We do, however, all have families that we love. My heart goes out to all the other families of AK. We're hoping to see them up and running in a few months.
Posted by: Larry on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:17 AM
I know alot of people that worked at the mill. As a contractor I have had to work there. No one wanted to go in there, it was a very hard place to work. Those people earned every penny they made. Most people complaining about the high wages could not last a week in that mill..
Posted by: Bob on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:15 AM
Blame who you want, look in a walmart parking lot at the percentage of American cars. That is your answer. No one respects this country and its workers. Everyone is out for themselves. It is not a democrat/republican concept. It is an unraveling of American society. Everyone joined hands for a few months after 9/11. A month later the big news story is Brittany Spears. Americans need to take care of Americans. Shut our border, take care of family and friends.
Posted by: Mike on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:09 AM
I worked for a local "big company." When they call you in and tell you as a group "not to worry", you better worry.
Posted by: AK wife on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:08 AM
In Reference to AK WIFE- Come on people i.e, anonymous at 12:00am, telling ak wife to shut up, you got her point with all the post. Get over yourself all of those post are not by the same wife. I know I posted as ak wife, as did a few other people I know and I'm sure many I don't know because "duh" that's what they are an ak wife.
Posted by: anon on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:56 AM
Response to anon "unemployment like hitting the lottery posted at 1:00am" I feel just as bad for you as I do for everyone who worked there, my husband included, if you think 415.00 a week before taxes is like hitting the lottery. Please come and be my accountant if you can stretch that smack in the face to these hardworking people.
Posted by: news watcher on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:31 AM
if you really whant to know whats going to happen with your jobs and the future of this country go to other news sources.ours are mostly only good?for our local neighborhood news,and in the case of ashlands news paper ,not even that.world net daily and news max are really good.our left wing politicans seem to want to destroy our ecconomy.only an informed american can put pressure on them to drill for oil yesterday!!!!!
Posted by: concerned on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:16 AM
now is the time to put pressure on the incoming socialist president and all liberal congress and senators!!!!thankfully ky has conservative ones.start putting pressure on them from day 1 to drill for oil every where.alaska,florida where the cubans are going to drill.every where .this country and every country in this worlds ecconomy is dependent on oil!!!dont let these so called american,pelosi,reed who also hates coal and all the social liberals in d.c let china and all the other socialist and communist countries run ours.put pressure on them now....
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 05:35 AM
On the $37.00 an hour your right..The lady in the Daily Independent Newspaper said her husband was going to get $500.00 a week sub pay and she said that he would be making a month what he was getting a week so $500.00 times 4 = $2,000.00 divide by 40 hours and you get $50.00 an hour. But look on bright side the Members Choice Credit Union should have some nice over priced toys to buy.
Posted by: JCR on Nov 12, 2008 at 05:03 AM
All these comments about how the AK steel workers should have been saving money for a rainy day..please! That's easier said than done with the price of everything going up! Yes, gas prices have come down some, finally, but only recently and it is anyone's guess how long that will last! Anyone with children knows how hard it is to save money for something that may or may not take place! I feel for the families of AK Steel employees and hate that you are going through this, especially this time of the year! My husband lost his job and has since worked for a few different companies in the construction field. With the economy in such terrible shape, potential jobs fall apart daily and work is lost. His work has been spiratic all year, and it is hard! Hang in there and know that you will be in the prayers of many!
Posted by: TO HEATHER on Nov 12, 2008 at 04:16 AM
My hubby works for AK and he does not bring home anywhere near 37.00 an hour your an idiot!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:13 AM
Yes, there has been rumor that because of "production loss" that AK would be cutting back jobs, but the employees have NEVER been told if those rumors were true. The employees held several meetings with the union, and asked this question many times, yet they always got the same answer...."don't worry". No one ever gave these employees the answers they deserved. The one thing they also never did was stop taking out union dues. These people paid for a service that was not provided. It's such a slap in the face to live on hope and carrying that hope back to your family every day when the truth was always known from the people you learned to trust. Finding out the truth on the news to a question these employees have been asking for weeks is a discrace!!!! These people work hard. They work long hours, yet they haven't gotten the respect they deserve! It would be different had they been told the truth. AK hasn't known the truth for many years. It's ashame it was at others expense!
Posted by: anon on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:00 AM
I live in the Ashland area and have had family members employed at AK. Some of the things that I have observed about a great many of the AK employees is that they are too busy keeping up apperances to have a savings account. All drivers in the household driving brand new cars, living in 200,000-300,000 thousand dollar homes, wearing a different outfit every time they leave the house and all the kids wearing top brands all the time. Many shopping trips using credit cards instead of cash. It is very sad to see this happen but hopefully this will be temporary and some of these people will learn to live within their means so that if this happens again they won't be in the same boat. A lot of people in the area would be feel like they hit the lottery and be more than happy with the amount these people will make with their unemployment.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 01:00 AM
Most importantly to all the employees and their families.....stay strong and keep your heads up! Unless you are an AK employee or family member, no one really knows how hard the "temporary idle" hits home. It's easy to post your comments about what YOU would do, but unless you are living the reality of this devestation, nothing that you say really matters. My husband also works at AK. He has always been a dedicated worker. Actually, he is much more than that. There was not a time that I can remember when I knew his shift would soon be over and I looked so forward to him coming home, yet I would get that phone call that he was picking up yet another shift. He was born to work. It was hard, but he loved it. He dedicated hiself to AK when they needed him. He sacraficed. When these employees needed AK, no one was there. The "union" didn't support the answers they had. I'm ashamed of AK. This will affect MANY businesses, and when it's you, will you then be so quick to judge??
Posted by: AK WIFE on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:51 AM
im just so happy they found MARK BOSO"MISSING AK MAN HUNTING IN COLORADO"THAT ALL OF THIS RIGHT NOW IS POINTLESS TO TALK ABOUT.THANK GOD!!!!!!I KNOW EVERYONE FROM AK WAS PRAYING FOR YOU.IM HAPPY TO KNOW HE WILL BEABLE TO SHARE THE HOLIDAYS WITH HIS FAMILY.ITS NOT ABOUT THE PRESENTS UNDER THE TREE ITS ABOUT FAMILY AND LOVING ONE ANOTHER.
Posted by: AK WORKER on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM
I AM AN EMPLOYEE AT AK AND WRITE AT THIS TIME I AM TOTALY LET DOWN BY BOTH THE COMPANY AND THE UNION. I HAVE ONLY BEEN WITH AK FOR A COUPLE YEARS BUT IT WAS A CHILDHOD DREAM OF MINE TO WORK THERE BECAUSE MY DAD DID, I FINALLY GOT THERE AND WORKED HARD EVERY DAY ALONG WITH LOTS OF OVERTIME. I HAVE READ ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE ALL THE POSATIVE THINGS YOU HAD TO SAY. FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER THE ASHLAND PLANT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE STEP CHILD TO MIDDLETOWN AND WHY? WE HAVE ALWAYS OUT PRODUCED THEM AND MADE A MUCH HIGHER QULITY PRODUCT. WHY DO CEO'S GET MILLION DOLLAR BONUSES WHILE WE GET LAYED OFF? AS FOR THE UINON I PAY 50 TO 100 DALLARS A MONTH UNION DUES AND WAS AT THE METTING A FEW WEEKS AGOA WHEN YOU TOLD US NOT TO BELIEVE THE RUMORES. WHY DOES IT SEEM LIKE YOU ARE JUST SITTING BACK AND LETTING THE COMPANY DO THIS? WE FIND OUT THIS NEWS BY WSAZ NOT YOU WHAT IS MY DUES USED FOR? AS FOR CHRISTMAS THAT IS THE LAST THING ON MY MIND I JUST WANT MY JOB THERE HOPE AMANDASERVIVS
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:21 AM
The actual layoff hasnt even happened yet they still have a week or two of work and hopefully it wont be long and maybe it will never get back into full swing but my thoughts are with those all in the world tonight that dont have everything they need and like them i am praying for us all and not pointing fingers at bush or ak company or anyone that is crazy. We (and i am an ak wife) never had a promise of how long this job was goin to last. Be thankful for what you do have and keep everyone in your prayers for the holiday season. As you will be in mine. Bitterness around the holidays dont make it any easier. God bless and keep you
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:01 AM
People just need to calm down. Things will work out someway or the other. And I am a wife to an employee, so I can say it! To AK Wife, you just need to shut up. You are not the only wife and your husband is not the only one. You are also not the only one with kids. You made your point now stop dwelling on it. No we don't have kids yet, but that don't make it any easier for us than you. Things happen for a reason and things will work out. You need to focus and support your family instead of running your mouth. Support your husband and help him out in this time. I know how my husband feels right now and I'm sure that yours feels the same. You should be thinking about him more and you less. He will get unemployment (which I know is not near what we are used to getting) but at least he does get something. Right now everyone is just going to have to learn to budget more. Hopefully they will start it back up soon and this wont last. Just support your family and deal with them and not others.
Posted by: yet another AK Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM
oh and to AK Worker, how is it that you "knew" this was coming? These rumors fly constantly, how do you know which to believe?
Posted by: yet another AK wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM
let's see....$37 an hour? I don't know about that but about $90K this year, is what my hubby will make, whatever that equals out too.....that doesn't mean you can save alot..think TAXES, we don't see all that money!
Posted by: mm845 on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I FEEL YOUR PAIN!! It's hard times for everyone, we are all in the sinking ship together thanks to the Republicans!! The good ol' brainwashed republicans. Thank God for the Democrats. It's going to take a lot to clean up this mess. AK will reopen. Don't worry...Be Happy! Smile God loves you.
Posted by: AK Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:41 PM
For those who know nothing about AK you might find this link pretty interesting: http://www.aksteel.com/news/press_release.aspx?doc_id=663&year=2008
Posted by: t&l on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:41 PM
For everyone talking about welfare and so on, many employees throughout the mill are looking for a way to MAKE money and not draw unemployment, food stamps, etc. These men work for a living and are proud people. We are not the type of people who are looking for handouts. If we can get by on our own, that is what we want to do. Many comments have been made about the amount of money AK employees make (None make $37/hr, by the way). Did it ever occur to anyone that AK employees have indeed paid taxes, which goes toward funding such government assistance programs? If we get paid so much, then we have paid a large portion into these programs. Also, AK workers have funded the local economy with paychecks for many years now. Many non-AK workers wouldn't be able to make it in this area without our paychecks.
Posted by: Headed back to deep mines on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Ak Steel caster maintenance employee , guess its back to the deep mines for me .
Posted by: AK Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM
For the comment about "Walmart is hiring seasonal help, Taco Bell is hiring, to name a few" My daycare and school lunches cost more than what I would make working at Taco Bell or Wal-Mart. I can't put my children back they are here to stay. When you have children to feed it is a different story.
Posted by: AK WIFE on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM
THIS COMMENT IS FOR "HEATHER"I DONT KNOW ANYONE DOWN THERE THAT MAKES $37 AN HOUR,AND MY HUSBAND WORKS THERE,AND YOUR LITTLE COMMENT ABOUT THE SHAME ON YOU, WAS UNCALLED FOR.TIMES ARE HARD AND WHEN YOU HAVE A HOUSE PAYMENT AND CAR PAYMENTS AND OTHER BILLS,IT IS HARD TO SAVE WITH A FAMILY!THANK YOU ALL THAT HAVE NICE THINGS TO SAY AND KEEP PRAYING FOR ALL OF US!BUT HEATHER DO YOU KNOW WHAT KARMA IS?MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK IT UP!!!!!!!MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTING NICE TO SAY TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!!!!
Posted by: unemployed SOON on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I am a AK employee , i am going to enjoy this vacation because it will take 30 years of service with this company to ever get this again , to bad its not paid
Posted by: AK Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:29 PM
My husband has worked for AK almost 5 years & yes every person should save for a rainy day, but as everyone else knows the cost of living these days is very high & no amount of saving could prepare anyone for a layoff. This is our families second layoff in the last 6 years. A lot of workers are upset because on friday morning they had a meeting telling the employees that there would probably be a layoff & that this would happen on November 22. They also told these men that the expected start up date would be in 6 weeks & my mouth dropped open when the first news broadcast said layoffs with no set date for call backs. You can imagine the feeling everybody had. I have 3 small children at home and 7 1/2 months pregnant. I am thankful my husband has more than 3 years in because a lot of people aren't aware that those who have under 3 years lose their insurance pretty quick and do not receive any of the extras of those who have more than 3 years. Think of everybody in this time of need.
Posted by: anon on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:27 PM
To all those saying trust in God, I do. I also teach my kids the real meaning of christmas but believe me that isn't keeping my heart from breaking wondering if I can buy for them next month and have presents under our tree.
Posted by: anon on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:27 PM
I really don't care who's to blame. Just fix it and fix it fast.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I know that nobody wants to pay for people to be on welfare if they don't have to. But you have to think that this is not something that the employees want. And I know that none of them plan or want to go on welfare. So people just need to chill and stop being such jerks about things. People making those comments most likely don't have anyone envolved in this so they just need to stay out of it.
Posted by: anon on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:22 PM
"responding to heather" Chris apparently doesn't know how to do math because trust me they don't make 37.00 an hour
Posted by: t&l on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:21 PM
AK WIFE - I believe I work with your husband and I agree with your last post. If these company officials would take a chunk of their bonus, they could fund our pay for the six week period. Another thing that has upset me is the fact that there are no plans to lay any salary employees off in the mill. As far as the company going through "tough times" any employee of AK can sit in front of you and name off numerous ignorant moves that AK Steel has made over the past 6 months alone that has cost the company millions of dollars. AK could have done something to "save for a rainy day" themselves for the, as Wainscott put it, "dedicated and hard-working employees" that keep the mill running. Anyone that has spent anytime inside the mill also knows that this "hot idle" that they will being doing with the blast furnace may not work. The furnace seems to be the all or nothing type and may not make it through the next 6 weeks. If we have another incident like last fall,AK may close for good
Posted by: Joanne on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Prayers to the workers and their families. Hopefully this is just a temporary situation. To ObamaFan, I've lived my whole life union. My father was UAW, and my husband is IW769. I agree with the protection of benefits and wages by the union. However, instead of being a "party" man, maybe you should decide by individual issues. The thing that bothers me about your prior comment is that you come off degrading and insulting those that work in the fast food industry. Say what you want, but I bet you eat out and depend on the services that they provide you without even a thought or real thank you. In high school I worked at BK and I assure you that the job might not be rocket science, but it is WORK. If it meant feeding my family, I'd have no qualms about working at a fast food place again. Shame on you for the insult. You're the reason so many people find issue with union workers. Think before you speak.
Posted by: Heather on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Since my first comment wasn't posted To Chris~ So, let me clarify your comment a little better.. You said that AK Steel would save $5.8 million. Now, there are approx. 650 employees being laid off. 650 employees X 40 hours a week X 6 weeks equals 156,000 man hours. Now, take the $5.8 million and divide that by the 156,000 man hours which equals approximately $37 an hour!!! If you haven't been saving some of that for a situation such as this, SHAME ON YOU! My husband is an x-ray tech, I am an accountant. Together we don't make that an hour! I still feel for the kids of these families though. It's not their faults.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Anyone that thinks that you can work for a company like A K and not have a union to protect you has to be crazy.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:56 PM
AK employees are some of the hardest workers in this area. That work terrible shifts and lots of hours in hard conditions. Now with that said lets, talk about the other side I know for a fact how the works no sir we can't do that job even though were just standing here we have to wait three hours for someone from the electical union to put that light bulb in while we stand here waiting. And you know its true. That is the big problem with unions WASTE WASTE WASTE. Now AK employees also make great money especially for this area but that also isn't enough most have to budget their life on the overtime not their regular pay and then when something this terrible hits it really hits hard. I work in the industry so don't get on here and tell me its not true. With some it isn't but for most especially the younger it is. Good luck to all and God be with you in this hard time.
Posted by: ak wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Just to let everyone know, No I wouldn't actually steal it's just a saying but believe me I would beg or borrow for my kids.
Posted by: Anon. on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM
If the laid off need work, don't be too proud to do it. Walmart is hiring seasonal help, Taco Bell is hiring, to name a few. I think I would do that instead of going hungry.
Posted by: yet another AK wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:39 PM
why was my comment not posted? Maybe because it dogged the union for sharing this info with the media before confirming it to AK employees?
Posted by: Me on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Oh well.
Posted by: another ak wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Several of you have noted that ak employees should have saved for a rainy day. Well, last quarter, the company have great profits (thank God!). But they didn't seem to save for the rainy day either. So, instead of saving some of those profits and making sure their employees are taken care of, they have laid off the employees that helped them achieve their success. Yes, part if this is shared with the employees, but I think many of us would rather have our (or our husbands) jobs assured. I do agree with all of you that have said to put your faith in God. This is proof that no one (or company) on earth deserves our faith, only God. It is sad for all the kids, but without all the gifts, maybe we will all remember why CHRISTmas is celebrated. We all just need to pray for one another and help each other out through this tough time.
Posted by: Mike on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Heard about this as soon as I got home from school, not even 10 minutes afterwards. My dad used to work for AK until they layed him off for some reason or another. He has another equally important job with URS now, but he was surprised to hear that AK was going to be "temporarily shut down." He was having a good laugh about everything they said on the news report though, because he knows what each individual part of the Blast Furnace is.
Posted by: AK wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:14 PM
To everyone saying trust in God. I do and I teach my kids the real meaning of christmas. That's not going to ease the pain and anguish I feel if I can't have presents under our tree next month for them. If I have to beg, steal, or borrow I'll have for my kids.
Posted by: another AK Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:53 PM
For AK Wife on Nov. 11, 2008 at 9:01 pm. I hear ya about the many times your husband was at the mill more than at home. I remember over the summer when I complained because I was always home alone with the kids and he was having to work so much overtime. I even quit my full time job back in May in order to go back to school full time because he was able to provide for us. Now I am going to have to scramble to find something quick. We have four children, and there is nothing else in this area as far as employment. I agree with what you said about the corporate bosses, it just isn't fair. My husband worked his rear off too...all we can do is pray that we will all get through this. God bless all of these hard working men, women, and their families.
Posted by: The grinch on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:43 PM
plllllllllllll. (Rasberry)Ak should be ashamed.
Posted by: to Chris on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:39 PM
Chris, you say that the company will save 5.8 million by laying everyone off for 6 weeks... So, let me get this straight. 650 (union workers) X 40 hours a week X 6 weeks is 156,000. 5.8 million divided by 156,000 is roughly $37 an hour! Seriously? My husband is an x-ray tech and I am an accountant and we don't make anywhere near that an hour put together!!!! If you haven't been saving for a rainy day, shame on you! I do feel sorry for the kids though. This is a sad time to have to scrimp to get Christmas under the tree.
Posted by: local 1865 on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:28 PM
To ak worker: AK execs. flew in today to tell us about the lay off, but they didn't even meet with the local union pres. The union met with local labor relations people while the execs meet with all salaried personal. They wouldn't answer any of the unions questions.
Posted by: AK Worker on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:26 PM
Look, get over it people ! Life goes on . It's not like they just all of the sudden did this . Just about every single AK employee can tell you that they knew this was coming a long time ago . We were warned .
Posted by: ak wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:17 PM
What I'd like to know is where is the state in all of this. In 2004 they made an agreemant with the state to keep 900 jobs. The state gave them 65 MILLION and 40 MILLION in tax breaks those 900 jobs were supposed to be secure. I'm not a genius but I don't think that leaves 900 people working there.
Posted by: ObamaFan on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:03 PM
FOR:Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:48 PM "Get rid of the union and mabey you might work" We like our Union just fine. It provides us with great benefits and health insurance. It also insures us that we don't have to lick anyones boots or work for Morons like you. I assure you we didn't vote for the sawed off thing that lives on Pennsylvania Ave. Come on down to the union hall and see what real men look like! In the mean time go back to flipping your burgers.
Posted by: AK Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:01 PM
My husband works at the mill.There were many times when he was there more than at home. I was always thankful that he had a good paying job though. What I don't get is why is it that corporate bosses get million dollars BONUSES each year. If one person would give that up they could pay the salary for these people and keep them there. If they want to idle the furnace fine and slow production they could make them do something. I know all of the lunchrooms are disgusting with rats and spiders let them clean them. These people get a kick out of seeing people hurt financially. If they didn't they would gladly give up that bonus and keep the workers that make them their money working. Trust me these big wigs do nothing more than pick up a pen and there wrist with their big rolex watch. My husband worked his rear off for that place and look where it got him.
Posted by: AK WIFE on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:54 PM
THIS IS A TIME FOR ALL OF GOD'S PEOPLE TO LET GO AND LET GOD TAKE CONTROL.I PUT MY FAITH IN TRUST IN HIM THAT HE WILL PROVIDE ALL OUR WANTS AND NEEDS.TO GOD BE THE GLORY FOR THINGS SEEN AND UNSEEN.
Posted by: to debbie and sue on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:49 PM
Dems have only been in control for 2 yr of congress. Republicans controlled cong and senate 12 yrs before that. SO I suggest you all do a little more research than fox news and rush. Bush is 0% for any union policy and so are most of your Republican sen. and congressman. So yes...the Bush economoy IS TO BLAME for this and the rest of the economic mess. Your president is the most unpopular president ever and I don't believe it is because of his looks.
Posted by: local 1865 on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:34 PM
To all the idiots blaming Bush, don't be so stupid. Who has controlled Congress the last two years? Everybody always has to make things political. For those who think the timing of the layoffs is coincidental, you do not realize the type of company AK truly is. AK is violating federal law, a promise to the state, and breaking the contract with the local union. They don't want us working Thanksgiving week because of the holiday pay we would receive. To Vil: Not all union folk are Democrats and narrow minded.
Posted by: FOR AK WIFE AT 6:24 on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:33 PM
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELEIVE GOD CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM!!! HE IS THE MAKER OF EVERYTHING , HE IS WITH US THOUGHT GOOD AND BAD TIMES. IF YOU HAVE FAITH AND LOVE GOD YES HE CAN AND WILL PAY THE BILLS AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE. HE ALWAYS HAS FOR ME. HE FINDS JOBS FOR US ALSO WHEN WE NEED THEM.THE REAL WORLD IS THE WORLD THAT GOD MADE. AK WIFE AT 6:24 PLEASE LOOK TO GOD AND HE WILL HELP YOU.IN THE SAND THERE WAS ONLY 1 SET OF FOOTPRINTS THAT IS BECAUSE IN OUR BAD TIMES HE IS CARRYING US. I WILL PRAY FOR A GOOD HOLIDAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR CHILD THAT GOD GAVE YOU. HE ONLY PICKS VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE FOR HIS VERY SPECIAL KIDS.
Posted by: AK Worker on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Its amazing how All of the AK Big Shots from Corperate had to shut Ashland down but for the time Being we are running as fast as ever and stacking inventory for Middletown just incase they need it.. And they had to do it by flying AK STeels Private Company Jet to the Raceland Worthington Airport in order to tell people... That Amazes me A Coorperate jet.. I thought times were tought??
Posted by: ???? on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:23 PM
It is not an easy thing to trust in God, but yes it can feed your family, pay your bills and provide peace. I am speaking from experience, my husband has cancer and cannot work there for no unemployment and a loss of over half our income. Not one time did I miss a house payment or any other payment and we had food to eat. I didn't wear new clothing and I didn't eat steak but when I though I wouldn't have the money for the next month God provided. One day I was outside working and worrying about how I was going to buy food for the week and a lady pulled into my drive and handed me $50 and said you was thinking of us. She didn't know I needed the money but God did and I believe he provided through her. I could share many other stories of how he provided. Without faith you have nothing.
Posted by: bad times for good people on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:17 PM
TO ANOTHER AK WIFE--I hear you loud and clear. I have been in your situation recently my fellow American. My husband lost his job completely a few years ago. I lost my home, my credit, my automobiles, filed bankruptcy felt completely helpless and reduced to a more simple lifestyle.I have learned the hard way and I am not just another person trying to voice my opinion about something I know nothing about. I am telling you that it will be o.k. You will make it through this rough time. You R not alone. There are programs to help your family and your special needs child. My heart goes out to you and all of the AK employees. These are extremely challenging times. You asked if I had a job and yes I do but now my husband works for a much smaller wage than what he used to and it's been a harsh reality! Words cannot describe the frustration,anger and devastation that my family felt. This country is in a major crisis. Your husband has a good chance of going back to work, it's temporary.
Posted by: AK Wife Who DOES Believe in God on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:15 PM
Yes, God can put food on your table, take care of your bills and keep a roof over your head. Too bad you don't realize that, or what the true meaning of Christmas is. We have bill just like everyone else. God has always taken care of us in the past and I believe he will continue to do so in the future. Believe me we want our child to have Christmas just like every other child, but we also want him to know that God gave us the greatest gift of all his Son. So yes we do live in the real world and I'm happy to so we know what our REAL GOD can do!!!
Posted by: Allan on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:07 PM
I see a lot of people hear blaming Republicans for the downturn in the economy, but truth is Democrats have been in control of Congress for past two years. Truth is any congressman whos been in office for the better part of 20 - 30 years are "all" to blame for the shape were in today. They have all republican & democrat stood by and took care of big money, PAC's, and Lobbyist and let the taxpayer foot the bill. It's time the country was once again run by the people for the people and that won't happen until term limits are imposed upon congressman. One thing for sure this country can not sustain the untold millions, billions of military dollars that we are spending in the middle east. Time to bring troops home and concentrate on our domestic economy.
Posted by: Anna on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:57 PM
God, can and will always provide all your needs if you trust and have faith in him ONLY! that is the real reason our country is in the hole not because of what political party we follow or who our president is. it is becasue we have let go of GODS unchanging hand. I have been praying for the familys of AK for many days now for peace and hope tonight I pray you find GOD he has all the answers.
Posted by: Concerened on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:49 PM
When I heard this this evening, my heart was very said for all the people it is affecting. My heart felt prayers are for all involved. Blessing to ALL
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:48 PM
Get rid of the union and mabey you might work
Posted by: HEY VIL!!! on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:39 PM
Your a complete IDIOT!! Dems only had control of congress 2 yrs...NOT THE PAST 8!!!!! I suggest you come to Carter ave. to the local and spout your mouth off tomorrow. I would say there would be a few that would love to talk politics with ya!!!
Posted by: ak steel wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:37 PM
me and my family has lived on ak steel pay check for a long time and have lived good that is all because of god and he supplies our needs i will pray for you all that does not believe that. he open the door to this job and he will open another ethier this job or somewhere eles i do believe this with all my heart. read the bible this is what he says. IF YE SHALL ASK ANY THING IN MY NAME, I WILL DO IT . AMEN!!!!! I WILL PRAY FOR ALL THE FAMILY GOING THOUGHT THIS IT WILL BE OK IF YOU TRUST IN GOD
Posted by: another local layoff on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:25 PM
The Pregis Plant in Wurtland (it used to be Pactiv) laid off about 15 employees just this past week. Said it is due to the economy. I know its not near the amount that AK laid off but the worries are the same. Being able to buy Christmas is the least of my worries. Keeping food on the table and the electric on is at the top of my list. Just like the post from Degas wife, assistance just aint available. Been working all this time to make sure the government has money to hand out to all the lazy deadbeats that don't have a clue what it is like to earn your keep. There aint nothing left to help out the working families.
Posted by: Sue on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:24 PM
You can blame the Republicans all you want, but remember who was president before Bush, it was CLINTON AND ALOT OF THIS STARTED WITH HIM. All of the Congress are Democrats in case you didn't know that.
Posted by: QUARTZ on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:24 PM
SANTA CAN BE THERE THIS CHRISTMAS, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOUR HUSBAND CAN GET UNEMPLOYMENT AS CAN OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW THAT WORK THERE. I AM A CHRISTIAN AND GOD DOES PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUSELF FOR TALKING ABOUT GOD LIKE THAT. I AM NOT TELLING YOU EVERYTHING WILL BE OK, BUT I AM GOING TO TELL YOU IF YOU IT CAN BE. IF YOUR SOUL IS RIGHT WITH GOD, YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST CHRISTMAS YOU HAVE EVER HAD. GOD DOES AND WILL PROVIDE FOR EVERY NEED FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM AND HIS WORD. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND ALL THE OTHERS FAMILIES THAT YOUR NEEDS ARE ALL MEET THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON, THAT YOU WILL FIND JESUS A AND REALIZE WHAT CHRISTMAS IS REALLY ABOUT. AND BY THE WAY THIS AFFECTS MY FAMILY GREATLY, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY WILL BE LAID OFF, ALSO. PLEASE ALSO IF THERE IS ANYONE SOME CAN POST AN ADDERESS OR SOME WAY WE CAN PROVIDE TOYS OR HELP FOR THESE FAMILIES PLEASE DO SO. THANKS AND MAY GOD BLESS AND TAKE CARE OF EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU.
Posted by: ak wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:20 PM
well if you remember the real reason for the season.. i do believe God is in it..
Posted by: brian on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:19 PM
People keep blaming Bush. Yes he has a great deal to do with this problem, but have we not had a dem. sen. and congress the past four years. Blame all of them not just one, they all have something to do with this. But they did get their raise this year.... god bless all men, women and children affected by this sit..
Posted by: Debbie on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:19 PM
This one is for Carl!!!! I am so sorry that you want to blame BUSH, But it is all Democrats that run the Congress, so guess what my friend, think again before you want to blame the Republicans or Bush.
Posted by: Brian on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:17 PM
My heart goes out to everybody at AK especially everybody at Amanda Furnace. I worked in the Maintenance Department at the furnace for three years before I left in 2003. I miss everybody there but I am glad that I don't work there anymore. For those of you who don't know they won't be able to keep the furnace hot for long. I assume that they are keeping wind on the furncace to keep the burden hot along with the stoves. Due to the internal condition of the furnace, if it goes cold they won't restart it. That would probably require do almost a complete rebuild of the hearth and the bosh (lower part of the furncace). AK won't spend that kinda of money on equipment that was built in 1963. Even though it is painfull I don't blame AK. The steel that they make in ashland is mostly for the Automobile industry. I hope everything turns out ok.
Posted by: Conservative on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:13 PM
I am sorry to hear about AK Steel halting operations, It is even more sad to see people blaming bush, correct me if I am wrong but don't the Democrats control congress? Bush make policies without Congress' approval.
Posted by: To another AK Steel wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:12 PM
Well if you're so worried about your bills and your child having Christmas, then maybe you should be reading the help wanted section.
Posted by: Perry on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:11 PM
Just last week a 92 year old woman said to me "Honey we're in tough times and things are going to get tougher".Obviously her insight comes from seeing history repeat its self.Theres nothing more to do at this time but PRAY
Posted by: AK Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:03 PM
in response to Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:52 PM......saving for a rainy day!!!!! Try doing that when you have 3 kids have to drive 30 mins to get to your job, then for them to tell u we only need you to work 4 hours that day, then when you are scheduled a 48 hour week they cut you down to a 24-32 hour week. You can not save when it takes everything you make to put food on your table, clothes on you childrens backs, house paymnet, car payment, insurance, electric, gas, water, and phone because you have to have a phone or they get mad at you because they can not call you when they need you. We went through our savings the last layoff. This layoff is going to effect more than AK it is also going to effect many truck drivers and employees at mansback. Over 1000 people when it is all said and done will be out of work, so tell me how we ar ALL going to make it becuase guess what Ashland Oil all over again if AK does nbot come back up
Posted by: To Degas wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:56 PM
You act like you're the only one to have it bad, well your not. Guess you'll have to do what alot us are already doing, make do with less! Since your unemployment will be too much for you to qualify for assistance.
Posted by: anna on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:54 PM
I know from personal exp. how hard times are now and trusting in god may help ease your mind, but like stated earlier it wont pay the bills.. and for the wifes to start looking for jobs. WHERE? I know I have put in app. it seems every where and no one has called back for an interv.My dad also just got news from the construction company he is a sup for and he is getting laid off this month he has been with them for 10 years and my mom works.But it might not cover all the bills. This is hard times but to say just trust in God, or for the wifes to get a job,that is insensitive even if you have or have not been in this position.Because alot of familys can not get help for food or heat because of incom they had prev.and this stuff is not material its necessity.My heart goes out to those whose job is on the line
Posted by: AK Steel Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:53 PM
To BAD TIMES FOR GOOD PEOPLE...just to let you know.. I am educated..I am a nurse..yet I stay home with my children while my husband works...And as for your comment on trusting God...we definitley do that..we have prepared our children for what is to come...as far as Christmas goes.They know the real meaning.but they are still children.....Have you ever had to explain to your children why their daddy lost his job or why you have to beg, steal or borrow to put food in their mouths? Probably not. Just like Carl said..it's corporation greed over workers livelihood..and it's true...AK is making profits right now..just look at the profit sharing check they will pass out this week...Unless you have some type of insight with the plant..how can you say they dont have a choice? Are you a salary worker?? Hope this doesn't happen to you...unemployment is not a fun thing to go through...regardless of the time of year..
Posted by: Hey Vil on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:50 PM
Reality check here - I bet like me _ YOU are a communist . . .Shop Walmart? I do. 80% of everything in Walmart is an import. Have a credit card bill - I don't and honestly hope you don't either. The Bush administration is responsible for adding more to the debt in 8 years than ALL other presidents before. Ouch! Its time to pay . . . time for a MAJOR slow down in our economy. $800 billion bail -out supported by Dems and Reps will cost us ALL for decades to come. Lets be responsible. Neo - republicans are responsible along with liberal spending democrats - they are EXACTLY the same - they spend LOTS. Difference is - with Democrats you pay now. republicans put it on the bill and we pay for decades.
Posted by: chris on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:47 PM
I did the math and AK would save over $5.8 million by laying us off for 6 weeks. I wonder how many weekend parties corp. will be having at our expense.
Posted by: another ak wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:43 PM
Yes, this is very bad timing and and has a great deal to do with the economy. However, I find it disgusting that part of my husband's pay check goes to union dues. I would not be bothered by this if the union did their job. Nonetheless, at a meeting several wks ago, the union members were told not to listen to or worry about the rumors, that there would only be a lay off if the whole company went under and closed its doors for good (makes you wonder). Then, the union president told my husband to his face that they knew nothing of a lay off. Then, today, my husband said that he had just gotten off the phone with the Union hall and they still knew no exact time frame or information. At that very moment, I was watching as WSAZ flashed the news at the bottom of the screen. Yes, our family was alerted via media, not from the union. Where are all those union dues going? In these time, you expect the company to do this to their employees, but the union should be helping its members!
Posted by: Local 37 Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:40 PM
My husband is one of the latest layoff at Steel of WV. Please know that you are in our prayers. Stop complaining about Christmas. Lay offs and loss of a job is horrible regardless of what time of year. When all else fails remeber Baby Jesus only got 3 gifts! He turned out to be great. Even if you do land in the foodstamp line rember that you and your spouse has paid into it! Buy and steak and enjoy!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:34 PM
I feel for the workers and the famiies of AK Steel... It is a shame that our local plants and refineries are shutting down but the big dogs still manage to get their big pay !! Same situation at DOW Chemical in Haverhill, but for these guys there is no chance they will be brought back, just have faith AK Steel employees, my prayers are with you.
Posted by: Another AK STeel Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:24 PM
This is a comment to Bad Times who says to look to God. Well, do you have a job? Will God put food on our table, pay our bills, keep a roof over our heads, and help us with our special needs child? You should be ashamed of yourself talking to us like everything will be ok. Maybe you have faith, but some of us live in the real world and know that God does not pay the bills. How do you tell a special needs child that Santa won't be here this Christmas?
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:11 PM
Are peopele in this community really that ignorant? Do you honestly think that AK likes not having sales/revenue (I do not mean profits, different concept), laying off their hardworking labor force in multiple locations, and to top it all at the holidays??? It really is a no brainer, the auto industry is down because they haven't stayed competitive with foreign imports, therefore AK's sales are down. This is the story across the country in multiple industries. But, would you rather the company burn through their immediate cash and go bankrupt, leaving there no jobs EVER for the people of this community? It is not the company's fault that people, making good money, did not save for the unforeseable. Plus, no one can say this was a surprise, look at the economy and the community rumors of the last few months! Yes, it is a truely sad situation especially at the holidays, but everyone should still have hope. Isn't that part of what the holidays are about? God Bless and good luck!
Posted by: Vil on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:10 PM
Yup, blame Bush when the Democrat congress caused this economy to collapse. Wouldn't expect any less of the union folk.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:04 PM
ak was not the only place to layoff ESMII a company who does alot of the segaments and some work for ak laid off 15-20 people today
Posted by: ky on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:00 PM
One of those men is my son-in-law. A hard worker that work when he was sick and wasn't able to and this is what he and 650 workers get. Also there when the company needed him overtime or what ever. I've been in their shoes I know. In May of 1982 I was working at C&O railroad and they came in and said where closing the doors for a short time. My husband was out work all so at the same time. I had two children like my daughter has now. I thought what in the world are we're going to do. I'm telling you men and women and their family at AK the same thing I told my daughter, God will take care of you(your needs not your want's)just remember that. Twenty- six years later I didn't lose nothing ,my home, my family, some times it was rough but we made it. It make a person a stronger. You all will be in my prayers. Hope the CEO of this company will look and see these men and woman are hurting. What could they done to prevent this? Do they really care? What will happen to the Middlletown plant
Posted by: Terry on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:54 PM
People who are on here to pass judgement need to think how this idle will affect the local economy. AK workers spend a lot of money in this community and provide a lot of support to local schools. This is bad for everyone in the Ashland area, not just the workers and their families.
Posted by: Carl on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:44 PM
Its a shame to layoff before the holidays, corporation greed over workers livelihood. Thanks Bush and your republican cohorts for once again screwing with american families. I wonder wheres Mitch Mcconell at now?
Posted by: joe Charles on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:44 PM
it is a fact that ak only cares for Middletown. We have been the step child for far too long. Let's hope this is only shortly temporary and all is well and good in 6 to 8 weeks.
Posted by: chris on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:40 PM
thanks pres bush...
Posted by: Degas wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Well last year this time we were on a layoff for a month. Now they are telling us the earliest for start up is 8 weeks and we find out through the news there is no start back day. Unemployment in Kentucky is no where near 80% more like 45% of what we make. There is a cap on unemployment in this state and it is a big cut. Hope Santa remembers all the people in this area this year..because we can not get any assistance because even with the layoff we still have to go by the last 3 months you worked which knocks you out of everything. So in 3 months our family can get some help because unemployment is not going to pay the bills, car payments, and mortgage and put food on the table.
Posted by: Bad times for good people on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:21 PM
To the AK STEEL WIFE--AK has no choice, they don't decide when the economy is good or bad. I feel for you and your family, BUT no one in this country has security with their jobs!!! I hope you as a wife are employed or will seek employment to help your family. TRUST IN GOD....and you will do fine. It's simple. Forget about the material things you have they are meaningless!!Christmas might be a little skimpy this year but once again.....Trust in GOD!!! You will learn something from this situation I promise. It's very detramental but times are hard for everyone. Look up and you will find the answer.
Posted by: who knows on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:19 PM
This is just another in a long line of what is to come. can the city or Gov. step up and retrain these people for a new way to earn money ? Or are they going to have to go on welfare and the rest of us will pay the bill. Why does AK steel not offer them some type of training for a new job ? Oh it would cost them money and they do not care
Posted by: Steelworker on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Thank your George Bush Economy for this and the rest of the mess the economy is in!!! This will hurt the local economy majorly. I just hope it will fire back up in Jan.
Posted by: union man on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:05 PM
this is what happens when there are republicans in office when will Kentucky ever learn that the republicans are the reason that it is one of the poorest states in the union. And this poverty is why almost everybody in the state is addicted to pills. Thank God that Obama has a plan to invest in American industry. Its ok though us democrats will bail out the ignorant rednecks again. How bout a history lesson. Reaganomics= could not buy a job Bush#1= high gas prices and high unemployment Bush#2 do we really need to say it again. Clinton= good times. in other words a workin man who votes republican is like a chicken voting for for colonal sanders. but either way my hearts go out to all the families around christmas time who need the work. After all the working class is the backbone of our economy. they should be first and foremost.
Posted by: ObamaFan on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:04 PM
Are you all suprised? Don't get me wrong I'm very sad about the situation, but with people supporting Walmart and China made goods, purchasing forgeign cars, not to mention our wonderful President Bush and his personal war. I hope AK gets their government handout and sends their CEOs on a fancy vacation. Bye Bye BUSH!
Posted by: A K MOM on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:03 PM
WHY HAVE YOU NOT POSTED MY COMMENT.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:57 PM
this is really sad. didn't even get anyone a notice.
Posted by: AK wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:55 PM
if the furnace stays down to long we all know it will NEVER be started again.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:52 PM
Laying off employees, no matter what time of year is always a bad thing. However, what is a company to do that does not have billions of cash dollars to burn through like the automakers that their business depends on. I feel terrible for the employees, but do they not remember to save for a rainy day, a rainy day that has come with the economic hardtimes of our day! This is no suprise with how the is economy right now. There is a silver lining in this dark cloud though that hopefully people will remember. This is a temporary and not a bankruptcy shut-down. If the second, then there would be NO jobs to EVER come back to! Hopefully, this will not last too long and everyone will be able to thrive again soon. My thoughts and prayers for all.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:52 PM
I don't think it was the company thoughts to lay people off at Christmas time it is the economic climate that were unfortunely in. With the company not receiving orders for product in over two months they can not continue to operate and have to go idle.Please stay positive during these tough times, say prayers for the family members of the workers at AK Steel and the country. We are going through times that this country hasn't seen in a long time. I believe that the union workers will continue to receive pay and benefits through this year.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:47 PM
My Thoughts And PRAYERS Are with these People Thru this HORRIBLE AND HARD TIME,I pray that the Plant Wont be closed for Long.Especialy thru the Holidays.God Bless All..
Posted by: AK Steel worker on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:46 PM
i have to say i am suprised to learn that AK is laying us off considering our profits are still high.i believe it has more to do with saving the payroll for the five holoday days they would have to pay each employee>
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:45 PM
Its such a sad thing to see this happening at such a bad time as now. At least Members Choice Credit Union, many of the worker's financial institution is helping by giving loan deferrments and interest-only payments to those individuals who have sadly lost their job. I wish all those hard workers luck in the coming months.
Posted by: AK STEEL MOTHER on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:42 PM
WONDER WHAT THE COUNTRY THINKS OF BUSH NOW. DO THEY EXPECT OUR NEW PRESIDENT ELECT TO FIX IT ALL. THIS IS JUST SHOWING WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO. WE CAN SPEND BILLIONS FIGHTING IN IRAQ BUT WE CAN'T EVEN KEEP OUR COUNTRY FROM GOING UNDER. THIS REMINDS ME OF IRONTON, OHIO, IT IS NOTHING BUT A GHOST TOWN. OUR GOVERNMENT CAN BAIL OUT AIG FOR TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT WHERE IS THE RELIEF FOR THE CAR COMPANIES, GM, ETC. THIS IS ABSURD. OUR SON'S WORK FOR THIS COMPANY AND I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT HAS WENT ON IN THIS COMPANY FOR SO MANY YEARS. I HAVE 13 GRANDCHILDREN THAT THIS WILL AFFECT IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WAY TO GO---------BUSH.
Posted by: Another AK Steel Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:34 PM
This is such a sad sign of the times. Our children don't understand why our economy is in such bad shape, and now we have to explain to them why their Daddy doesn't have a job and we won't be able to have a Christmas? All we can do is pray, and hope that we can all get through this. This will not only devastate those employed by AK, but all of the surrounding merchants and businesses in this area. Thanks a lot AK!
Posted by: Coke Plant Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:34 PM
My husband works at the coke plant and some of the men in my family work at the mill as do my friends. As of today, my husband still has a job but who knows for how long. Everyone in this community knows someone who works there...It's a shame that this had to happen now at Christmas time. The worry has just doubled in my family. God be with us all and give us strength.
Posted by: Sarah on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:31 PM
I am soo sorry for the workers of AK Steel! I will be praying for all of you and your families!!!!
Posted by: Chris on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:30 PM
This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who works there.This was expected.There's no work coming in there.Best wishes to all & good luck!We'll need it.
Posted by: Mike on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Just letting you know that I think the picture of AK Steel is wrong. Isn't that the Air Gas Plant in the picture?
Posted by: Bear on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:23 PM
Bad time for a shut down,Christmas is around the corner and high heating bill,but it make you wonder if they want bail out money like AIG,watch and see if their big shots have a big party like AIG.
Posted by: A on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:19 PM
This country is falling apart.What will we do.
Posted by: AK Steel Wife on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:18 PM
This is really nice...A company that is supposed to really care about their employees and their families..to lay them off right around Christmas..I have 6 small children..how do we explain this to them? My dad also works for AK..as a child I remember going to the union hall..because he was layed off and getting a Barbie after sitting on Santa's lap..why do they always do this around Christmas time??....what a way to repay these men and women who work over time and who are taken away from their families...What's next??? The food stamp line....
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:18 PM
This is a sign of the times. It's always sad to see this happening to factories and plants. I'm always reminded of Flynt, MI where all the industry has shut down and left that city in peril for decades. The timing of this is also unfortunate with the holidays coming up and families already tightening the belt with the economy. My thoughts and prayers are with these folks. Hopefully the plant will not be shut down for too long.
Posted by: sabrina on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:11 PM
This is real bad it close to the Holidays and people being layed off and not sure when or if they will get back on there....I pray the workers can find other jobs some where
Posted by: Kathy on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:10 PM
God be with all of those 650 union workers at the AK Steel Plant. What is to become our our area. It seems to be going down the tubes more and more
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