Archeological Discovery in Ohio River Causes Debate
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Posted: 10:14 PM Sep 27, 2007
Last Updated: 10:14 PM Sep 27, 2007
Reporter: Randy Yohe
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It’s like a discovery channel special, a living history lesson and a heated border war all rolled into one. A recent river recovery of an eight ton treasure was followed by angry claims of archeological thievery.

This sandstone scratching is far from another face in the crowd. After years of planning and weeks of effort, a Portsmouth, Ohio Volunteer Recovery Team pulled the prehistoric, legendary Indian’s Head Rock off the mighty Ohio River’s bottom.

“It was tough to get straps around it,” recovery team diver Dave Vetter said.

In the 18 and early 1900's before the days of locks and dams, the boulder would pop up every decade or so, depending on river levels the rock became a popular tourist attraction, a gilded age photo op, featured in post cards. Some of Portsmouth’s most prominent citizens scratched their names in the sandstone. Some think maybe this smiling face is an ancient Indian petroglyph, or maybe not.

“Maybe a quarrymen or an alien from Mars,” Vetter said.

The recovery team presented the rock to the city of Portsmouth for public display.

“People can study history, it better than where it was,” Mayor Jim Kalb said.

Technically speaking, Corps of Engineers folks say this stretch of Ohio River is Kentucky property and now an angry group of Kentuckians from across the river is mounting a political and legal battle, calling the Ohio Rock Recovery Team archeological looters and possible interstate felons.

“They stole it, the consensus is to study it and put it back,” Joe Stockham of South Shore said.

The city of Portsmouth hopes to display Indian's Head Rock at the welcome center or the new city hall. Meanwhile the Kentucky group says the attorney general's office is contacting the state police to file theft charges against the Ohio recovery team.

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Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 31, 2008 at 09:19 PM
Like many in ohio, how many of those living in ky., actually knew that dumb rock was there and if it means so much why didnt ky go get it out of the water. its a rock for pete's sake. Now that it is out of the water and the work is done, ky wants it and for what . this is like two kids fighting over a toy that they really don't want. I have heard so much about this STUPID case of the rock it is embarrassing. with the city governments in turmoil the big shots fight over a rock, how sad. we have kids going hungry, elder abuse, drugs, prostutes and these two states are wasting monies to go to the top of the mountain get ownership of a ROCK. If you are so scared of someone taking a piece of the rock, throw the thing back in the river, why pay money to put a fence around it for protection. SHAME ON BOTH STATES AND GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED. by the way, who ever wrote the letter on mar. 20@6:02 needs to use a dictionary.

Posted by: Rob on Mar 31, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Sounds like the song..."One Tin Soldier"...where the People of the Valley go to war with the Kingdom on the Hill over a Treasure.."Peace on Earth". How ironic!!

Posted by: ohio on Mar 30, 2008 at 06:15 PM
Prove...... it is your rock. It's called the Ohio river Not the Ky river for a reason!!!!!

Posted by: raymond on Mar 30, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Archeological discovery in ohio river causes debate. by Randy Yohe Sep. 27, 2007 I believe that the stone is a waybill of The Knights of The Golden Circle, and the face on the stone is a jack-o-lantern face

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 20, 2008 at 06:02 PM
hay.Buckeyes stold the rock. they need to give it back.And place it in south shore ky maby the reason ky never brought up the rock out of the river. they respected. the indians.if it wasnt for the indians.White people would have starved to deth.the rock should been left along the start with. people have give this country enofe bad names.for pet sake what was you people thanking you all seen a chance to make a few dollars selling the rock to someone that would payed big bucks for it.who carved the rock their incesterd .Probably was buried under the rock.legend is you bother them they might come back.I am an indian beleaver .I would not bothered that rock . it needs to go back on ky grounds.ever one in ky needs to go to court on this. it needs to be put in .south shore ky. under a pad lock fence. to keep ohio people from taking chunks of it to sale.at least ky had the brans not to bother it. ohio rushed taking what was not theirs began with.I hope that buch goes to jail.

Posted by: Ralph on Mar 9, 2008 at 03:05 PM
This rock was a natural landmark and should be put back in the river from where it was removed. If people want to see it they can dive on the site.

Posted by: justice on Oct 18, 2007 at 11:42 AM
For anyone with a genuine interest in gaining a deeper appreciation for the law that now protects antiquities, you can read an article about the desecration of Slack Farm and see the tragedy that led to the tighting of KY law to make such acts felony offences for prosecution purposes. Go to Google, and type in: Slack Farm desecration in the SEARCH box. Look for: THE TRAGEDY OF SLACK FARM by: BRIAN FAGAN The photos alone are enough to outrage most.

Posted by: justice on Oct 17, 2007 at 04:10 PM
Dali Lama. He is the Dali Lama. For the sake of humanity at least rent Seven Years In Tibet.

Posted by: In the know on Oct 15, 2007 at 01:42 PM
To Mr. Larry Bias, The citizens of Kentucky seek only to protect their history in its natural environment and to prevent the possible theft of other artifacts in the future. Those individuals responsible for the theft of this artifact should be held accountable for their actions. As David Pollack, Site Protection Program Manager with the Kentucky Heritage Council was quoted saying: “They (the divers) definitely committed a crime and they need to be prosecuted. The site’s protected. It’s state property and it’s protected under the state Antiquities Act.”

Posted by: the wonderer on Oct 13, 2007 at 10:11 PM
http://rivervices.blogspot.com/2007/05/midsummer-madness.html is this the same guy that is posting about the rock here and that moes crap link, god help us if it is. from what i read he think he an authority on everything, a dolly lamma.

Posted by: Ooops on Oct 12, 2007 at 09:55 AM
They have "pubic" museums? That would be interesting.

Posted by: anthony on Oct 11, 2007 at 10:22 PM
i think the rock should be kept in a pubic museum

Posted by: Joe on Oct 10, 2007 at 06:52 PM
New information published in the Ashland Daily Independent concerning possible charges being filed on those responsible for this theft and transportation across state lines of this historical artifact. http://www.dailyindependent.com/local/local_story_282233703.html

Posted by: justice on Oct 7, 2007 at 09:51 AM
ben: people breaking the law are the one's taking up valuable court time, not those trying to uphold it jenny: if you find a $100 bill it does not make you a thief, but if you go into someone's house and take it..that's the difference anonymous: if this doesn't go to court, then is when we should get concerned with our elected officials crystal: if no one has claims on the river, what is the point of being required by law to purchase fishing license? molly, larry: we're on the same page food for thought: apparently there is a group of volunteers who covet objects to be raised and removed, maybe they can make that their next project when they get out of jail someone from ky getting a good laugh: ok, so now everyone is like..several felonies have been committed and ky folks find it funny? omg: nuts that happened to be screwed onto the bolt of what is RIGHT1

Posted by: THINK FIRST on Oct 4, 2007 at 07:44 PM
I got a good idea. Let's take up the courts time and the money over a rock. And yes that all it is a ROCK. In a couple of comments people have stated we have better things to fight over(DRUGS, WAR, HOMELESS PEOPLE, OUR SCHOOLS,OUR KIDS, OUR FUTURE,OUR KIDS FUTURE, MEDICARE and I CAN KEEP GOING) I SAY THESE OUR MORE IMPORTANT THEN A SAND ROCK. why don't OH and KY share. Is this not what we teach our kids. Your kids watch you and follow you so do something good instead of fighting over a rock. I agree with Paula KY needs a time out right along withanyone else that wants to fight over this. DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR OTHER PROBLEMS FIRST WASTE THE STATES MONEY ON THEM INSTEAD OF A R*O*C*K.

Posted by: Gary on Oct 4, 2007 at 07:39 PM
Indians Head Rock was cataloged in the mid 1800's. Squier and Davis' "Ancient Monuments of the Mississippi Valley" was Published in 1848, it was the first volume of the Smithsonian Institution's Contributions to Knowledge series and the Institution's first publication. Ohio Historical Society Records (1920's Volume 30) weights towards the face carving being of Native American origin. The first europeon date on this rock is 1807, then I think again in the mid 1800's. This rock artifact being cataloged in the mid-1800's by the Federal Government's Smithsonian Institution; it is hard to conclude otherwise that all the late 1800 and early 1900 europeon names carved on it are anything other than graffiti (a form of defacement). Defacement IS NOT how this rock artifact should be remembered; reguardless if it early 1800 europeon inscription or much deeper in time Native American. Welcome to America. Move West Young Man.

Posted by: lee on Oct 3, 2007 at 10:59 PM
all of you are missing the real issue here state and federal laws were broken by the rocks removal that is the plain and simple facts do you prosecute to insure that people will stop abusing the law anytime they please or do you turn your head and let them continue to steal a they wish whenever they wish?

Posted by: stephanie on Oct 3, 2007 at 07:25 PM
i herd so much about this rock i just had to go and see it for myself, so me my mother and a friend went to the rock the city garage and it is kinda cool and we did take some pictures of the rock. i dont understand the big deal. i have come to the conclusion that jackson county has there APPLES and circleville has there PUMKIN and portsmouth has the ROCK!!!!

Posted by: please on Oct 2, 2007 at 08:41 PM
Please update this story already. What is going on with the rock? Will charges be filed or have they already for that matter? What and when can we expect from this?

Posted by: Gary on Oct 2, 2007 at 03:06 PM
I am sure the expedition was incepted with good intent. In terms of finding a solution rather than controversy or litigation; if the rock is going to remain out of water, perhaps an alternate location would be on the KY side where the Grant Bridge begins. There is room for a pull-over and a covered structure. The original location is with a few hundred yards. The rock will only last for a few more hundred years at either location. If it last 300 more years under water then lasting just 150 more years as an actual Historical Marker is a viable option. Then the digital age will capture it for the long term. Isn't that one of the main objectives anyway? More opinion can be found here: Copy and paste the link below into your browsers address bar: http://com5.runboard.com/bmoesnewsforum.f1

Posted by: green on Oct 2, 2007 at 02:36 PM
"It is" is right. If this situation were reversed, Ohio would react the same way as Kentucky. You may call it "just a rock" but it clearly is important to both groups, and it is wrong for one group to decide what to do with it when it may not belong to them. When they found King Tut's tomb, it wasn't "just a dead body and some gold stuff." This example is obviously a lot grander then the rock, but if its important to people and pertains to local history it doesn't matter how grand it is. It should be obvious that you can't just take something that could be historically significant. I wouldn't really care where the rock was so long as it was taken care of, but if it belongs to Kentucky and they want it back then that is where it should go. I'm still waiting to hear if an actual law has been broken but if it has you can't just overlook laws when you feel like it.

Posted by: It is on Oct 2, 2007 at 01:31 PM
Why is everyone trying to put blame on Kentucky for wanting back what was theirs? That would be like me coming over and taking a landmark or historic artificat from your state and claiming it's mine b/c no one has taken it and placed it in a musuem or city hall first. It is Kentucky's historic artifact, not Ohio's. The portsmouth mayor should be ashamed of himself for making it "ok" to steal from others, especially it's neighboring state. Plus, everyone keeps making redneck comments and clean up the cars and garbage on our side. If your side of town folks were not putting those things in that side of the river to begin with, they wouldn't be there. Kentucky's rock, point blank. They want it back... so it's the right thing to do, give it back. Why is their even an argument to this? It's plain and simple. Kentucky's ROCK!!! It was taken from Kentucky's property. Theft is wrong.

Posted by: Marcella on Oct 2, 2007 at 01:18 AM
No I did not read all of the messages, because I find this very petty. I can not believe people are acting like children on a play ground. Wonder were this kids get their problems from. I live in KY and I think it is a shame that 1 police officer would even be put on this case. We have men and women in other Countries dying for you people to act so childish. We have real crimes to work on, get a life. I hope that while these police officers are working on this case, that seems so important to some of you, that your child, wife or mother is not raped or murdered. We know that rock is more important then some one being assulted. I agree with the one who said clean it up and put on the river bank and that way everyone can enjoy it.

Posted by: Gary on Oct 1, 2007 at 10:07 PM
Just to add a bit of humor... another rock has been spotted on Route 23 in Kentucky and heading towards Portsmouth. Cut and paste the link below for the picture: http://com5.runboard.com/bmoesnewsforum.f1.t12032

Posted by: kk on Oct 1, 2007 at 10:04 PM
why do people have to name call and try to cut someone down?? red necks? sign with an X? that was just petty and rude. There must be a reasonable solution to this problem. The rock is a piece of History, what a lot of people do not realize we are quickly losing many things that are history which are parts of our heritage. Granted some people do not care about history and if you don't then you would not understand the importance of this rock to others. I feel sure those fellows did not set out to "steal" as some would have you believe I am sure they did not realize permits were required I would have never known that. I feel the people who specialize in this area should decide if the rock can withstand being out and decide an appropriate place to display for all to see. If it will cause it to dissolve then it needs to go back, just take plenty pictures first!!

Posted by: Joe on Oct 1, 2007 at 09:02 PM
To Mike D. My priorities are just as they should be. I do numerous things for the citizens of Eastern Kentucky. I've worked with the American Red Cross during the flooding in Inez several years back. I've also done volunteer work with Eastern Kentucky Senior Citizens and provided assistance to Adult Education Centers in several Eastern Kentucky counties. I also assist people in 5 Eastern Kentucky counties with finding employment so that they can become self-sufficient and no longer require cash assistance through the state. This subject is just very personal to me. My Dad told me stories of this rock and I feel a great injustice was done to the citizens of Kentucky when this was removed from its resting site.

Posted by: Tara on Oct 1, 2007 at 01:23 PM
This object is more than just a mere rock. It contains an important remnant of this area's prehistoric past. The Native Americans who had occupied this area never developed a written language so these petroglyphs are an important look at what a particular group of people thought enough of to carve into stone be it for religious or artistic purposes. In archaeology it is best if possible, to leave objects in place to study the full context of the find. In this case it was important to remove the rock due to water erosion. To quote a line from an Indiana Jones movie "It belongs in a museum". Archaeologists and the general public should be able to view and study this find. It is better to have moved it than to have lost it forever to the elements. As to which state will house such a fine, I agree that this matter should be left to the courts and I sincerely hope that some sort of peaceful agreement can be made that will satisfy both parties.

Posted by: Mike D on Oct 1, 2007 at 01:05 PM
Ha ha Joe you haven't changed a bit. Worried about a ROCK????? If the rock belongs to Kentucky let them have it. However put the rock back in the river and let them hunt for it and pay to bring it up. Heck you are so concerned with a rock? how about beig concerned with the sad state of our public schools, or the drug problems or the lack of choices for teenagers to occupy their time? You need to get your priorities in order...

Posted by: plymoth on Oct 1, 2007 at 12:29 PM
You all dont realize the importance of the rock. Its fraggle rock!

Posted by: John on Oct 1, 2007 at 12:14 PM
It was reported this whole thing is being investigated by the KY> State Police. Is this true and, if so, what is the state of the investigatioN?

Posted by: LINDA on Oct 1, 2007 at 11:17 AM
I HAVN'T READ ALL THE COMMENTS, PERHAPS THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED ALREADY, BUT, WHY NOT USE THE, "SOLOMOM," METHOD TO SETTLE THIS? DIVIDE THE ROCK EQUALLY BETWEEN THE DISPUTING PARTIES. LET'S JUST SEE WHO ACTUALLY APPRECIATES THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE ROCK AND WOULD RATHER HAVE IT IN ONE PIECE, EVEN IF IT ISN'T ON THEIR SIDE OF THE RIVER!!

Posted by: molly on Oct 1, 2007 at 10:19 AM
If Portsmouth keeps the rock what happens to it when they get tired od it? Will it be put in the same place they put the footprint of Roy Rogers and the other famous people that used to be on the espanade? Does anybody know where those ended up?

Posted by: Laura on Sep 30, 2007 at 09:06 PM
Couldn't they display it submersed in an aquariam showcase? That way it won't crumble.

Posted by: omg on Sep 30, 2007 at 06:13 PM
You people are nuts. All of you. It is a rock, not a ship or treasure chest. I have found numerous rocks with shells, fish, ferns, trees,etc fossilized in them. Anybody want to sue me for them. Heck at least they show something important. Who cares if this rock supposedly resembles something?

Posted by: Dubbie Fryer on Sep 30, 2007 at 12:03 PM
THEY GOT THEIR ROCK

Posted by: Someone from KY getting a good laugh on Sep 29, 2007 at 10:12 PM
My question is, what good is history if you can no longer see it unless you are a diver ? Why not bring it up for all to see and tell about it ? KY wasn't bringing it up, so why not let OH. I have lived in Greenup Co. most of my life and never heard of it, and even if I did I would never see it. Now thanks to OH not only do I know about it, but I can see it and find out the story behind it. Thanks to those who brought it up for all of us to see.

Posted by: KY GIRL on Sep 29, 2007 at 07:51 PM
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT BEING A SAND STONE AND NEEDS WATER SO IF THEY CAN DISPLAY IT AND MAKE SURE IT NEVER DRIES OUT IT IS NOW FOR ALL OF US TO SEE. IT DOES NOT SHOW ITSELF NOW THAT THE LOCKS AND DAM IS THERE, IT ONLY SHOWED BEFOR THAT. WHY DON'T OH FIND A PLACE TO DISPLAY IT ON THE RIVER SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE KY SIDE ...SOUND SIMPLE ENOUGH TO ME

Posted by: food for thought on Sep 29, 2007 at 05:42 PM
ok, I say if Kentucky owns the river and wants their rock back, tell them come and cleanup the 3 or 4 cars/trucks found around the court street landing in Portsmouth. Once that is done, give them their rock.

Posted by: Larry on Sep 29, 2007 at 05:14 PM
I hope that the authorities bring appropriate charges against these so called divers. They violated numerous federal and state laws in their distruction of this artifact.

Posted by: molly on Sep 29, 2007 at 03:06 PM
if the people who are making fun of the dumb people in ky check your maps. the ohio river belongs to ky. also ky has laws about removing artifacts and what they did is considered a crime.

Posted by: BigRock on Sep 29, 2007 at 02:17 PM
It is a worthless rock, of course Ohio wants it. After all they are the worthless Nut State. Hey, maybe WV should give them Marshall and the City of Huntington then they would have a complete set.

Posted by: crystal on Sep 29, 2007 at 12:26 PM
A huge rock from the river is causing all this ...... What next? Just when you think it couldn't get any crazier. This is just like anything that anyone else would find in the ground. Old bullets, knives, Arrow heads, and such things...... Just because this was in the water..... It makes it no different. Last I knew, no specific person had claims on the river, and/or the things found in it. If so then why don't they do something better with their time and resources and do something about the trash that floats in the waters? Empty oil barrels are a lot worse of an issue then a stinkin rock. K, Thx

Posted by: green on Sep 29, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Even if it is "just a rock" it does have some historical signifcance, maybe more (or less) then we realize. Whenever something like this is removed from its historic location (such as the controversy over raising the Titanic) there is going to be an uproar over who it belongs to. Personally, I don't think it matters which state it belongs to because I agree with Mr. Stockham. Study it, maybe date it, then return it to the river. However, if we absolutley have to know, it would involve identifying what side of the river technically belongs to Ohio and Kentucky respectivley, and where the rock was located in relation to that. Things like people from Portsmouth writing their names on it or the river being called Ohio, doesn't mean its Ohio's. You can write your name on anything, but that doesn't mean it belongs to you and the Ohio doesn't just touch Ohio nor is it exclusivley used by residents of Ohio.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 29, 2007 at 09:53 AM
WELL,WELL,WELL. ALL THIS OVER A STUPID ROCK. WHY TIE UP THE COURTS FOR THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE(IT IS A ROCK)LIKE CURTIS SAID THIS LOOKS LIKE A BUNCH OF REDNECKS FIGHTING OVER A ROCK.(YOU MIGHT JUST BE A REDNECK IF YOU FIGHT OVER A ROCK) THE RIVER IS FULL OF ROCKS BOTH KY AND OHIO CAN GO DOWN TO THE RIVER AND GET ALL THEY WANT. ALL THE TROUBLES IN THIS WROLD AND COUNTRY WE HAVE TO FIGHT OVER A ROCK. THE WAR, HOMELESS PEOPLE ETC. PUT YOUR FIGHT TO GOOD USE FIGHT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR. GROW UP KY AND OHIO....IF THEY LET THIS GO TO COURT THEN THE VOTERS NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHO THEY VOTED FOR..

Posted by: chuck on Sep 29, 2007 at 08:55 AM
John u dont get do u hostory is history and it should be left at that and i say this to all that think the rock should be left on display at a museum well go ahead but like Joe pointed out permits were never applied but i guess if u want something bad enough just get it any way u can even if its illegal even if it destroys history

Posted by: michael on Sep 29, 2007 at 08:49 AM
the ROCK.. is a part of this whole area's history!why shouldn't it be shared by all three states,for educational purposes. argueing over a ROCK really sets a fine example for our kids! GROW UP ,grown-ups!!

Posted by: John on Sep 28, 2007 at 07:11 PM
Why would this "Group" across the River complain? Did they do alot of research on the rock and its location, size ,weight and cost to recover it? Did they contribute their time, labor, materials or money to this costly and dangerous recovery? They are very good on making petty threats and charges.I say give them the rock back when the "Group" compensates the recovery team for all of its cost and they change the Ohio River name to the Kentucky River in the courts and not until then!

Posted by: Jon on Sep 28, 2007 at 04:10 PM
I think we have lost sight of the real stroy...these people are arguing over a ROCK!!!

Posted by: Paula on Sep 28, 2007 at 03:18 PM
Kentucky Needs A Timeout.

Posted by: Joe on Sep 28, 2007 at 03:17 PM
It would appear that WSAZ is very biased in their reporting of this issue. They failed to report on what a University of Kentucky Archeologist told Mr. Yohe during a interview on Thursday, September 27th. And to Jenny, the rock was removed from Kentucky and taken to Ohio.

Posted by: Larry A. Bias on Sep 28, 2007 at 12:10 PM
You was wrong in stating the Indian Head Rock was a recent find. The orignal dive team along with Steve Schaffer found the rock September 7, 2002 after 3 years of searching the KY shore and countless dives to finally locate it. I have underwater pictures of me kissing the rock. I'm so glad that someone had the funds to raise the famous Indian Head Rock.

Posted by: Terri on Sep 28, 2007 at 09:33 AM
I cannot believe grown people are fighting over a rock. Now that it is out of the river, it should be left out for people who want to view it and its history. As to whether it is Kentucky's or Ohio's....Does it really matter! Just display it for all to see.

Posted by: Joe on Sep 28, 2007 at 09:08 AM
What WSAZ failed to report is, as a University of Kentucky Archeologist informed them, there are permits that must be applied for before you can legally remove any historical artifact from it resting place. To the best of my knowledge none of the individuals involved in the removal of this artifact applied for these permits. Another issues WSAZ failed to report is that it may be a mute point as to who gets possession of the rock. After years and years of being the submerged in the river the sandstone rock has absorbed water. When it begins to dry out the sandstone by crumble and fall apart. As a citizen of Kentucky I want this artifact returned to its original site where it was protected from harm. This is a part of our local history and folklore and should never have been removed. You can candy coat this story as much as you like but the basic issue is that these individuals crossed the state line into Kentucky, removed a historical artifact and transferred it across state lines.

Posted by: chuck on Sep 28, 2007 at 08:49 AM
what is puzzling me is why disturb something of historic history i believe something of historic value it should be left where it was at and not disturbed but when u have a bunch of D,A's that r only looking for some public spotlight leave it to a politician i think it should be put back where it belongs in the river but now that it has been moved it will never be the same thanks to a bunch of glory seekers thst dont know the value of history u can say what u want or look at in any other way but history has been disturbed and it will never be the same no matter how u see it

Posted by: CURTIS JONES on Sep 28, 2007 at 08:40 AM
GIVE ME A BREAK!!! I'VE HEARD IT ALL LETS TIE OUR COURTS UP EVEN MORE BY FIGHTING OVER A ROCK,NOT TO MENTION THE REST OF THE COUNTRY SEEING WHAT KIND OF REDNECKS THIS PART OF THE COUNRTY IS FIGHTING OVER A ROCK. YOU STATED IN YOUR ARTICLE SOME OF THE CITIZENS OF PORTSMOUTH'S WROTE THERE NAME'S ON IT,ARE THE PEOPLE IN KENTUCKY MAD BECAUSE THERE'S NO X'S ON IT. THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT A MAP IT WAS CALLED THE OHIO RIVER AND THINK ABOUT IT THEY STATED IT POPPED UP EVERY DECADE OR SO WHEN THE WATER WENT DOWN, SO IT WAS LOCATED IN NO MANS LAND!!! THEY SPENT THE TIME TO BRING IT OUT OF THE RIVER FOR ALL TO SEE SO I SAY IF THEY WANT TO PLACE IT IN A PLACE FOR ALL TO SEE THEN AS THE OLD SAYING GOES " DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE HORSES SON JUST LOAD THE WAGON!!"STOP MAKING YOURSELVES LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF REDNECKS IM SURE YOU CAN COME TO SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT AND STOP FIGHTING OVER A ROCK.I'VE HEARD IT ALL NOW!!!!!!!

Posted by: jenny on Sep 28, 2007 at 08:37 AM
sorry it should go back to ky if thats what is it was found on. oh and since when does finding something make you a thief? if you found a 100.00 does that make you a thief? what is the difference i didnt know you could lay claims to a rock.

Posted by: jenny on Sep 28, 2007 at 08:32 AM
is there proof it was on the ohio side? if so then its ohio's and if they want it back then pay the recovery guys for recovering it and take it..if it was on wv side then leave it alone

Posted by: Larry on Sep 28, 2007 at 06:48 AM
Kentucky knew the rock was there. Our dive team dove on it several years ago. They should have thought about preserving it. It is quite a site under water. Why not set up a tour for both states, so everyone can see it? It could even be displayed at the Huntington Museum of Art.

Posted by: Laura on Sep 28, 2007 at 01:21 AM
awe crap they got it up let them keep it. Atleast they wanna display it not destroy it.

Posted by: USA CITIZEN on Sep 28, 2007 at 12:47 AM
How could they steal the rock,when everyone knew it was there! It had to be removed by someone, so it could be studied and only Professionals can do this! Does it belong to the Country or mainly a certain Indian Tribe because of its History ? I do not think Kentucky OR Ohio can Rightfully claim this rock unless they are a Full Blooded Indian Tribe,or Proven Descendants from the TRIBE of Indians of whom they are talking! Which Tribe are they talking of, it was never mentioned!

Posted by: Person on Sep 28, 2007 at 12:14 AM
In my opinion concerning the HISTORY of this ROCK it Does Not belong to Any One Person, Town, or State! So,let the Professionals who studies this stuff, study the rock and stop bickering back and forth and share the informaion and history of this rock with All the People,whom it belongs to! Why be Greedy over the Money it can bring when it belongs to the People!

Posted by: Frank Riggio on Sep 27, 2007 at 11:40 PM
Huntington Scuba, Charles Carroll,Frank Riggio,Larry Bias,and William Levine were the first to find the rock for Dave. It is History for Portsmouth which is in the photo.

Posted by: John on Sep 27, 2007 at 11:15 PM
I am a diver in south shore, I have personally dove and saw this rock. Well, used to dive to see it! This area does not have many historic areas for divers, and now we have one less. It is nice for everyone to be able to view the rock, but it is no longer in its original state, nothing special!

Posted by: Ben on Sep 27, 2007 at 11:10 PM
there are far more important things to go to court about other than a rock out of the river. come on people, get a life!

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