Capito Applauds Female VP Pick for McCain
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WASHINGTON D.C. (WSAZ) -- West Virginia Congresswoman Shelley Moore Capito applauded the selection of a female to the Republican presidential ticket Friday. Senator John McCain, the presumptive nominee for president for the Republican Party, picked Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, as his running mate.

"As a woman, this is an incredibly exciting day to be involved in the political process," said Shelley Moore Capito, also West Virginia's lone female member of Congress. "In Gov. Sarah Palin we have the opportunity to elect a noted reformer, a mother and a popular governor from a well-known energy state to be our nation's next vice president."

Capito pointed out the historic significance of Palin's selection. She's the first female ever to be chosen for the GOP presidential ticket.

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Posted by: Rose on Sep 28, 2008 at 02:16 AM
Tiffany - I hope you are ok...but if you aren't, know that I am very sorry for your loss & you'll be in my thoughts & prayers.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 24, 2008 at 01:59 PM
OK - I'll answer for Rose. I believe I can given all the examples shown below. ROSE'S ARGUMENT: Okay, again, Tiffany, you are not interpreting my comments accurately. I never used the race card either, I just allude to his "Muslin" roots, which cannot be denied (per R. Limbaugh (aka rehabbed druggie and my hero)). I've been doing some researchin' and I found that Obama is in Michigan this week. ACTUAL FACT: Obama is campaigning in Michigan (a battleground state) this week. More of Rose's Facts: B. HUSSEIN Obama is campaigning in Michigan. Surely, Tiffany, you are aware (as I am because I am a researcher) that Michigan has the largest concentration Muslim community in our nation in Detroit. Coincidence? I think not. How can you deny the obvious Tiffany? P.S. (ACTUAL FACT): Limbaugh did claim that Obama was not black. Limbaugh says Obama's family was from Kenya, a country in Africa with a majority Muslim community. Not accurate, but doesn't matter. Limbaugh = God. Obama = antichrist.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 23, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Please read my comment again about Ayers. I did not say that he couldn't be a terrorist. I only said that he must not be to much of a threat or he would be in jail or out of this country. It doesn't matter anyway considering Obama does not have much of a "tie" to this man. He lived in the same neighborhood as him and went to his house once. That is not a relationship I would be concerned about. I would be more concerned about a presidents family having ties to the royal family in Saudia Arabia. That's just my opinion.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 23, 2008 at 03:07 PM
I have not used "the race card". I have never said that you aren't voting for him because he is black. I have suggested that west virginians don't trust him because of that. The reason I say this is because 55%of people in WV admitted that race played a key role in who they voted for and some of them were on camera when they said it. How is stating an absolute fact "playing the race card". This country is racist, so it obviously would be harder for a black man to win the president. I don't know why that is so hard for you to understand. If you deny racism then Rose you really are living in a dream world. As far McCains medical history goes, yes I would let people look through my medical history if I had a job as stressful as being the president. It wouldn't bother me a bit. Apparently he has something he does not want people to see. No, that's not a proven fact but one can assume that there would have to be a reason to give people a limited time to look at his records.
Posted by: charles carroll on Sep 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM
I worked under Arch Moore (governor)for the state road , we had a thing called the flower fund it was manditory to contribute . At that time we all knew it was realy campaign slush fund our money was going for . Shelly moore capito trained by arch moore would call sarah palin a good choice I guess shes just another palin-toligist who goes along with the party on everything.
Posted by: TO ROSE on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Rose, you really are full of yourself. You never addressed why there was a limited amount of time to review the medical records. If you can't at least see the problem there, the entirety of your arguments can easily be dismissed. You also revert to the faux argument of "Muslim background" when you are backed into a corner. I wish I could say it was interesting to follow your logical conclusions; however, your patterns are simply juvenile.
Posted by: ROSE (PART 4) on Sep 21, 2008 at 06:09 PM
McCain did NOT say that Spain was an adversary OR that it was in Latin America. This was an ASSUMPTION derived from the liberals after an interview. Don't believe me? Show me where I can find the QUOTE that he said Spain was an adversary & was located in Latin America. You won't be able to do it because it didn't happen. However, I can show you something really hilarious! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws Obama has visited all 57 states with only one more left to go! Yay him!
Posted by: ROSE (PART 3) on Sep 21, 2008 at 06:08 PM
Since you enjoy the race card so much, I will go ahead and point out that your assumption that someone living in this country could not possibly be a terrorist or commit bombings is a bit questionable. One does not have to live in a middle eastern country to be a terrorist. Remember Oklahoma City? Those people weren't middle easterns. Would you not classify them as terrorists? Ayers & his wife got off on a technicality. He is an unapologetic terrorist bomber who threw a party for Obama in his home. There are plenty of ties to him & Obama that are being hidden. If Obama had done business with a relative of someone who had yet to commit a crime, I am reasonable enough to realize that is not important. But attending a party in your honor at the home of someone who has already committed the crimes & is unrepentant about it is a whole lot different. If you don't understand that, then that is your own problem.
Posted by: ROSE (PART 1) on Sep 21, 2008 at 06:07 PM
You know, Tiffany, this is getting ridiculous...I agree with you. You continue to bring up issues I have already addressed First you accuse Palin of making remarks about Jews, I correct you, now you jump on her church even though I provided a link to comments from a well-respected Rabbi who said there is NO comparison between Obama supporting ideologies of an Anti-American Rev. Wright for TWENTY YEARS & Palin happening to be in the audience when a GUEST SPEAKER made a comment that was controversial. It's as if you don't read anything I write. Someone who has been cancer-free for nearly 8 years most usually is in the clear, as the report said. As far as John McCain & his medical records? I would black out parts that were irrelevant, as well. Would you want the public to know about every hemmorhoid & personal discussion with your personal doctor from your entire life?
Posted by: to wsaz on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:37 PM
where are parts 1 3 and 4 of roses posts why are some posts not put through? i jus had one not put through in another story and no where and in no way did i use foul language. Im tired of my posts not being out through for no reason please explain why this happens who ever approves these comments?
Posted by: Rose (Over & Out) on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:38 PM
I will say that, for the most part, you have been fun to converse with and I appreciate your civility. Although I do not agree with you much about anything, apparently, I do respect you as a person. I would encourage you to find the whole story when you hear something about someone or read a quote that is standing alone. I think you probably do that already, as I do, because we both want to know the whole story. It is also very apparent that we are both biased towards who we support & there will be no convincing either of us to vote for the other candidate. With that said, I wish you nothing but the best & prayers will be with your pregnancy & upcoming birth. Take care!
Posted by: Rose (Part 5) on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:36 PM
This discussion has been going on nearly a month now & is going no where. I have went out of my way to provide references & proof for anything I say & even attempt to give you references showing that some of the things you have said are not true (like Palin making the Jewish statement, McCain & the Spain issue, etc). These were all just blatant untruths. I have been accused of not being able to research information, yet I'm the one who seems to be doing all the research & providing evidence in this discussion.
Posted by: Rose (Part 2) on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:33 PM
There are many things in a medical record that are no one's business. Common sense dicatates that if you had a melanoma removed in 2000 and you are still here with the living in 2008 w/no signs of chemo & treatments (hair loss, weight loss, frequent hospitalizations & surgeries) then you are doing OK. You don't need every page of the man's medical records to figure that out. It is only your opinion that his judgement is poor due to him picking Palin. There is a huge amount of people out there that disagree with you. The crisis on Wall Street that you said McCain blamed on Obama? They BOTH have blamed each other & exchanged jabs. That is politics & campaigning during a close election. About Ayers? Ayers is, indeed, a professor. He also has ADMITTED to bombings & regrets he couldn't do more.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Despite your genetics, the odds of dying increase as you get older. Life insurance costs more as you age, right? It is LAUGHABLE that Rose tries to argue otherwise.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Rose:The argument against Obama about him not serving his country really makes you look idiotic. John Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam. Did you vote for him? Did you think he was fit to run this country? John Kerry was also a decorated war hero. It sounds ridiculous the way you talk about it. Obama has done good things for his country. Instead of becoming a high price trial lawyer he worked a community organizer. Before you make fun of him for that like Sara Palin did you should recognize what it is. The executive experience is just a word republicans are using because they know she doesn't have enough experience. They have to say things like she has more executive experience so that people like you will fall for it, and you are. You are brainwashed by politicians. If you would trust that woman during a financial crisis and two wars, you HAVE to be brainwashed. It's idiotic. She just received her passport this year. Yet somehow she has more foreign policy experience than Obama/Biden
Posted by: t on Sep 20, 2008 at 12:44 AM
For a time, Mr. Obama was on the board with Mr. Ayers, though he no longer has a formal association with the group. At the debate, he described Mr. Ayers as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," but "not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis." Mr. Obama said he was being unjustly linked to "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old." Theres that dangerous relationship Rose. OOOOOH Scary. Come on now. It's not like he was giving him billions of dollars for the last ten years. Really Rose, stop denying the obvious. It's perfectly okay to admit your president is a money hungry corrupt politician.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 20, 2008 at 12:40 AM
He let the press review his records alright. He gave them a brief amount of time and half of the papers were blacked out. He is not in any kind of shape to be president. His judgment on choosing Sara Palin is proof enough that he HAS NO JUDGMENT. He blamed the crisis on wall street on Obama. First Obama had no experience now he is responsible for the crumbling of Americas economy? They are desperate right now. The republicans are on the verge of losing. I think your remarks about Obama are laughable. You think the relationship between Bush and the Saudi Arabians is laughable? These are known to be some of the most dangerous most corrupt people in the world. The man you are referring to Rose, is not a terrorist. Is he living in this country, yes. He is a professor if I'm not mistaken, if it's the man I think your talking about. So, really, come on. Is he living in Pakistan, or Afghanistan? Is he Osama Bin Ladens ken folk? No he isn't so quit believing everything the television tells you
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 20, 2008 at 12:32 AM
OKAY! This has gotten hilarious. ROSE George bush still has connections with the Saudi Royal Family. I don't care what you say if that was Obama who had connections with them you would say he was "dangerous". YOU have no sense of reality. john McCain this last week has completely embarrassed himself. He said Spain was an adversary of the US when they are an ali. he also said they were located in Latin America. He is not fit to be president. Sara Palin has lied constantly since the convention and will continue to do so. Take a look into her church and her pastor. He supports the "pray gay away" concept. Which is just as outrageous as the things Rev. WRight was preaching about. Her church had a guest speaker who spoke about terrorism being Gods judgement on jews. What kind of a church even has a guest speaker like that? What was Sara Palins reaction to it. She was at the service. Did she leave? No I'm sure she stayed and listened. Why is that not a problem for you Rose?
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:21 PM
A group of doctors numbering 2000 have issued a demand for free and open access to McCain's health records. Does McCain have something to hide? Or does this give us a peek into how he will run the White House if he makes it there? The overwhelmingly secretive aura surrounding the White House for the past 8 years must be dissolved. My government is "of the people, for the people, and by the people." Since it's my government, I have a right to know all that occurs in the White House. The only exception is when there is a TRUE compromising of National Security. However, secrecy in the name of National Security seems to be thrown around rather excessively and carelessly lately.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:16 PM
Did you notice that Rose's source stated that the "press" looked over the medical records? Only one of the reporters (with their infinite background in Medical Record analysis) was a Dr., CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Dr. Gupta stated "I have never reviewed medical records quite the way I did today. At promptly 7:30 a.m. PT, we were taken to a conference room and handed three stacks of paper, nearly 1,200 papers in all and told we had exactly three hours to review them. I am still not sure I understand why there was so little time given to review so many papers."(CNN 5/23/08 Gupta's on AC360) More..."McCain to limit reporters' access to his medical records. Only a few hand-picked journalists covering the campaign will be allowed to view the senator's health documents."(LA TIMES 5/23/08) Most did surmise that McCain was in good health. If McCain wins, how can it be disputed that he will run the White House very true to the phrase coined at the Dem Convention **McCain = more of the same** ???
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 04:58 PM
"McCain has addressed concerns about his age and past health concerns, stating in 2005 that his health was "excellent". He has been treated for a type of skin cancer called melanoma, and an operation in 2000 for that condition left a noticeable mark on the left side of his face. McCain's prognosis appears favorable, according to independent experts, especially because he has already survived without a recurrence for more than seven years. In May 2008, McCain's campaign let the press review his medical records, and he was described as appearing cancer-free, having a strong heart and in general good health." - Meet The Press, NY Times, & USA Today
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 19, 2008 at 03:36 PM
Genetics the new cure for cancer?... I know Obama could pass on before his term is over as well. If that where to happen i can say i have faith that Biden could take over with great success. As far as serving our country so are thousands of other men and women and he poses a bill to increase veterans educational benefits. They are fighting in this war created on false pretenses and he don't think they have the right to extra benefits. Not everyone can find a rich spouse to carry us along n life.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:47 PM
Jess (continued)...Could he die soon, despite his mother's genetic contribution to his longevity? Sure he could. Obama could too. People in their 40s & 50s die all the time, unfortunately. Truly, I find it a bit tacky that people are already planning for the possibility of McCain's death. Of course, with what McCain went through while serving OUR COUNTRY (years of torture so brutal his hair turned white), I'm sure it did take a toll on his health. Obama has never served our country, so I guess he does have that health advantage.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:46 PM
Jess, I did not say that you claimed she was running for president. I say what I mean & if I wanted to say that I would have said, "Jess, you are wrong, she is not running for President." I was simply implying that Palin is being scrutinized more so than Obama & she isn't even the one running for President. They are both considered "young," politically. She has executive experience & he has zero (even though he is running for Chief Executive of the US). Any executive experience is better than none. Could she end up being the president? Sure she could. Any VP could. The reference to McCain's mother was exactly as you took it. His mother is still alive, therefore it is possible that he very well might have the same genetics as his mother.
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 19, 2008 at 01:38 PM
I didnt say she was running for president did i? you really should stop twisting my words around to try and make me look bad cause anyone who reads this can see what your doing and you are making a fool of yourself. In the event of McCains death she will be pres. though and that is why i asked you if you thought she was ready if you can honestly say you think she is then fine what ever floats your boat. I personally do not think she has nearly enough exp. to be even VP much less pres. tell me exactly what McCains MOTHER has to do with this? are you trying to say cause shes alive that McCain cant die from health issues? Please explain you comment there you "lol" but really im missing what the funny part was. It seems when you are presented with a logical question you want to try and make those asking it look as if they are stupid.For someone who planned and prepared for her future you dont seem to be thinking to far ahead as far and Palin goes.
Posted by: TO TIFFANY on Sep 19, 2008 at 01:08 PM
While I applaud your efforts at an intellectual argument with Ms. Rose, I believe your attempts will be futile. I see where you have acknowledged errors in your judgment or your words when brought to your attention. I do not see Ms. Rose reciprocating. When you are obviously visiting the final vestiges of reality in attempts to persuade others to your view, you resort to personal attacks or attacks that have no bearing in logical arguments. This is what Rose has done, along with her husband Will O'Really. It's also a practice of Fox News. Like what (I believe) was said earlier, Republicans have no personal critical thinking ability, all is copied from their brethren.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 01:03 PM
How interesting... http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/09/19/Report_Legislators_son_at_center_of_Palin_hack_talk_1.html
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 19, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Rose: You refuse to engage because I am asking that you face reality. Republicans and Reality have an extremely adversarial relationship. I have found a common link with those who are Pro-Palin and Anti-Obama: Both sides "cling" to superficialities like your suppositions about Obama (no underlying factual, issue-based, points). Those who favor Palin continually offer comments that "she is like me, she brings energy to our party". Very hard to disprove or prove comments like this.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 19, 2008 at 12:43 PM
TO ROSE: You doing research for a living is a very, very scary concept.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:34 AM
Tiffany, you should be outraged that a president would be more concerned about their popularity than taking the correct & appropriate actions to protect their country. Your analysis of Clinton "asking the American people how they felt about him as president" is a bit simplistic & naive.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:31 AM
Jess, the Smoking Gun document that is provided only talks about about terrorism threats from the 1990s when CLINTON was president. There were no new warnings contained in that document. This document only rehashes the fact that Bin Laden was a threat to the U.S. If it had warned of jets being hijacked & crashed into the World Trade Center & the Pentagon, then I would have to agree with you. Bush's administration was doing just as much as Clinton did, if not more, in the short 8 months he had been in office. Bin Laden could have been long gone if Clinton had acted in the 1990s appropriately. We endured numerous attacks during the Clinton administration. Bush is a human being, not a psychic. 9/11 was not predicted by Tenet. He had a feeling "something" was going to happen, but gave no further details or direction. I think we can agree that we all wished that it could have been predicted & thwarted.
Posted by: Palin on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:13 AM
On Palin...she is running for Vice President, not President. Any one of us might not be around in 4 years. Maybe McCain should ask his MOTHER (who is still alive) if Palin is a good choice, lol! At any rate, I find nothing wrong with Palin as a VP candidate. She has more executive experience than Obama (even though you might not feel that being Governor of Alaska is sufficient or mayor of a town). There are no requirements to be an international traveler to be VP, is there? One would have to have lots of money & time to be an international traveler...which would make them out of touch with the "regular people," right? I think that if McCain were to pass away during his term that she would be just fine. I believe she is the element of change that this country needs. Many people have served in high offices with abundant foreign travel & did a poor job. This is not an accurate predictor of how someone will perform their duties in office.
Posted by: Jess on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:55 AM
Jess...1) There is a huge difference between having friends you don't agree with & associating with someone who is unapologetic for bombings he committed! I would even question your character if you were friends with an admitted bomber. We should care about this when electing a President. 2) There is a huge difference between being friends w/your pastor, who happens to have some radical anti-American opinions & sitting for 20 yrs listening to various ideologies that are questionable. One would have to be seriously off their rocker to continue to listen to someone for 20 yrs if they didn't agree with them. Again, this tells me he either supported Wright's views or he lacks the backbone to stand up for his beliefs & change churches. Either way? I don't want him to be my President.
Posted by: Quotes Out of Context on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:43 AM
Here is the entire quote, in context. I really despise when people take bits of quotes & twist them around:*********** Bush insisted he was not looking to his legacy. "I'm not running for the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm just trying to be a guy to use the influence of the United States to move the process along," he said. But he added that "I hope that history will say that this is a guy who clearly saw the world the way it is. I can assure you that al-Qaida, Hamas and Hizbullah don't think about the comforts of life. They are driven. And the fundamental challenge facing this world is, well, countries like the United States, be prepared to continue to stay in the lead." Concluding the conversation, the president observed, "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office. But one of [those legacies] has got to be, he clearly saw the threat and he did something about it." -Jerusalem Post 5/12/08
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Tiffany, your comparison to Bush/Arbusto Oil & Ayers is laughable. Obama has associations w/a man who has admitted to bombings & wished he had done more. His crimes had already occurred & Obama still associated with him repeatedly. Arbusto Energy was founded in 1976. Salem bin Laden is one of at least 54 children fathered by Mohammed bin Laden. Osama bin Laden was 18-19 yrs old in 1976 & was attending school. He had yet to commit any acts of terrorism. Salem bin Laden's interest of a whopping 5% was invested by James R. Bath, an American. Bush even sold Arbusto BEFORE the terrorism began. Now that we have the facts, I think you can even say that it would be a stretch to link someone to terrorism when 1) The act is yet to occur & 2) The association is with a half-sibling (one of 53 half siblings!). That would be like me having a problem with Obama doing business with an Ayers half-sibling before Ayers even committed crimes. That was a serious reach, but nice try, Tiffany!
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 19, 2008 at 04:09 AM
Since your talking about Obama having ties to a "terrorist" what about the Bushs ties to the Saudi Royal family. They have given them billions of dollars of the last ten years. What was it, 10 of the 13 hijackers were Saudi Arabian. Bush has ties to Bin Ladens family.In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden's brother, Salem bin Laden, founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas. That's a fact. So, I really don't think that Ayers should be an issue for you. If you can vote for Bush who obviously has an alliance with some of the most corrupt and wealthy people in the world, why are you worried about Ayers?
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:12 AM
"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008 Yep, that George W. Bush is a great president who responded with great tenacity and force in the days after 9/11. he bombed a country of people living in huts and has since forgotten about that country and moved on to another. He really knows his stuff. HAIL TO THE CHIEF! "And so the fact that they purchased the machine meant somebody had to make the machine. And when somebody makes a machine, it means there's jobs at the machine-making place." --George W. Bush, Mesa, Arizona, May 27, 2008
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:03 AM
OH MY LORD!!! The President asked the American people how they felt about him as a president!!! This is absurd and OUTRAGEOUS! As an American I am OUTRAGED!
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 18, 2008 at 10:03 PM
OK here are two more links and no im not calling you a terrorist or anything they are just links. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282.html Ok now after reading those can you sit there and tell me 9/11 was Clinton's fault? If you can you are so far beyond brainwashed. Bush and his administration knew and had ample warning and time to stop that attack and did nothing. They didn't beef up security they sat there and let it happen.
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 18, 2008 at 09:55 PM
3rd this is my opinion and a question of sorts. Do you think Palin is read to be President? McCain is not in the greatest of health and its a good possibility that he will not live 4 years. Do you think someone who was mayor of a very small town and, someone who was only Governor for 2 years, someone who has only been outta the country once and that was recently. How is she going to be able to handle forien affairs and terrorist? I could go into her personal life but i will not. (even though if the tables were turned and barack those "problems" im 10000% sure McCain would have used them n a bashing commercial by now.)
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 18, 2008 at 09:50 PM
1st. I did not say you said he was a Muslim, near the bottom it talks about the time when he failed to place his hand on his heart. So dont put words in my mouth.2nd. I dont care who barack has associated with i have racist, anti-gay, and Rep. friends and i am none of the above. they dont make me who i am nor do i make them who they are.. im sure his pastor did not preach in every sermon about America and his thoughts on it. Maybe alot including obama are and were offended by this but respected his right to have an opinion and choose to focus on the things they did like and agree on and im sure that over powered the bad.Too be continued...
Posted by: Rose on Sep 18, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Bill Clinton actually conducted polls after each act of terrorism to see if the public blamed him & how it affected his popularity. He had a PR-driven approach to terrorism & only did the minimum he had to do after each attack to keep himself popular with the public. He was *not* tough on terrorism. Each of these attacks could be viewed as an act of war against the U.S. (especially the World Trade Center bombing). He worried too much about his popularity rather than protecting the U.S. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzhjODk1ODg4M2NiODU4Yzc3YWE1OTA1MDNmYWQ5M2Y=
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 18, 2008 at 07:33 PM
I read your comment wrong. It looked like you were telling her that you paid more taxes than her in a year. I don't care what Obamas pastor has to say. I don't blame any black person in this country for being angry. As for Obama listening to him, I have plenty of close friends that I don't agree with about things. That doesn't mean that i won't agree with them on other issues and that i wouldn't confide in them if I needed to. That's just the way I see it. I supported Hillary Clinton, voted for her in the primary. But, i didn't agree with everything she said about Obama. The Rev Wright controversy was one of them. Personally I just feel the republcan party is too corrupt to trust anymore. I think they have their own agenda and the American people don't know and probably never will know what it is. I think Obama would take this country in a better direction.
Posted by: THE FACTS PART 1 on Sep 18, 2008 at 04:20 PM
"Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says black should not sing "God Bless America" but "God d*mn America." The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last TWENTY YEARS at the Trinity United Church of Christ..." http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004284040_pastor15.html He only chose to distance himself after he began to seek the office of President. And who could blame him? But at that point, it's a bit too late. It shows he was only willing to distance himself from Wright when it made him look bad. He should have done it on his own a long time ago. Even Hillary Clinton doesn't approve of Obama's lengthy association w/Rev. Wright: "He would not have been my pastor," Clinton said. "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend." http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_558930.html
Posted by: Rose on Sep 18, 2008 at 04:05 PM
I voted for Bill Clinton...twice! I was a democrat in the 1990s. I even attended a rally at Marshall University & saw Hillary Clinton speak. Bill Clinton's impeachment was his own fault. He lied under oath & got caught. Blaming the Republicans would be like blaming the police for arresting a burglar or blaming a judge for holding someone accountable for perjury. Bill Clinton made his bed & he had to sleep in it.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 18, 2008 at 03:53 PM
Tiffany...what comments, exactly, are you referring to that I made to Jeannie that were so inappropriate? I only addressed her one time & that was to point out that I don't engage with rude people. She was rude & I am unapologetic for saying so. And I will not correspond with her again because she has nothing of substance to say. If that is a problem for you, perhaps you are just like her. As far as being paranoid, I certainly am not. The President of the United States is a pretty big responsibility & I find that character & past associations should be a major factor when considering who to vote for on election day. I find it to be one of *the* most important factors. If you choose to look the other way or discount the facts then that is your right. I have researched both candidates & there are things about McCain I don't care for, either. But, in the end, there are two choices & Obama is the most questionable, in my opinion. Add it all up & McCain beats Obama, hands down.
Posted by: THE FACTS PART 3 on Sep 18, 2008 at 03:37 PM
Concerning his ties to Ayers, the unrepentant bomber & terrorist. Strangely, CAC archives refused to be opened to show just how involved he was with him.: http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/8/22/obama-needs-to-explain-his-ties-to-william-ayers.html Ayers even had a party in his home for Obama & has donated money to his campaign.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 18, 2008 at 04:09 AM
Nevermind I don't apologize for saying your a redneck. I wrote that before i read your comment to Jeannie.
Posted by: The Clinton Years on Sep 18, 2008 at 01:24 AM
ROSE: During a time when republicans should have been supporting Bill Clinton in fighting terrorism they were working against him. They were impeaching him for an affair. The president may have done a better job fighting terrorism had the republicans backed him instead of fighting against him.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 18, 2008 at 01:08 AM
Just to correct some of the remarks about terrorism being Clintons fault here is his antiterrorism bill that the republicans would not follow up on. Measures taken by the Clinton administration to thwart international terrorism and bin Laden's network were historic, unprecedented and, sadly, not followed up on. Consider the steps offered by Clinton's 1996 anti-terror legislation, the price of it would have been at $1.097 billion. The following is part of the list of the initiatives offered by the Clinton anti-terrorism bill: * Screen Checked Baggage: $91.1 million * Screen Carry-On Baggage: $37.8 million * Passenger Profiling: $10 million * Screener Training: $5.3 million * Screen Passengers (portals) and Document Scanners: $1 million * Deploying Existing Technology to Inspect International Air Cargo: $31.4 million * Provide Additional Air/Counterterrorism Security: $26.6 million * Explosives Detection Training: $1.8 million * Augment
Posted by: Rose on Sep 18, 2008 at 01:05 AM
Tiffany, your comments about Palin in regards to the Jewish community are false. Palin never made such comments. The comments were made by a guest speaker at her church (David Brickner). Rabbi Yehuda Levin, a prominent Orthodox Rabbi, has addressed this & said that there is no comparison to her happening to be in an audience where a one-time guest speaker made such a comment & Obama sitting by Pastor Wright for twenty years. You can read all about Rabbi Levin's stance on this subject here: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/sep/08091705.html The saddest part about all of this is that you just accused me of throwing out falsehoods about Obama (which I have provided links to prove they are all true) & you didn't even bother to research this & see that she never said any such thing. Pot? Kettle?
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 18, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Rose: I am sorry for calling you a redneck by the way. The comments were paranoid though and those are the things that bother me when it comes to this election. Republicans have consistently used fear in their campaigns and it is not fair to you or to America. They have used 9/11 and now they have tried to make Americans believe that Obama is anti-american, muslim and an extremist. Neither candidate is squeaky clean. Their churches families and ethnic backgrounds should not be an issue though. What bothers me about the whole rev wright thing is obama had to leave the church that he had been a part of for 20 years. He did not believe in everything the Rev. preached yet still had to denounce his church because of all the bad attention surrounding it. That to me is unfair. It is paranoia that the republican party is thriving on right now. At a time when they should be uniting this country they are dividing it further. Don't blindly believe politicians. Their usually lying in some way.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Tiffany, I looked up that church's website & visited it way before the primaries. My problem is not the fact that the church he attended for over 20 years is mostly an African-American congregation. My problem is not that Rev. Wright seems to spread some very anti-American messages (he has that right here in America). My problem is that Obama sat in that church for 20 years & listened to this propaganda from Rev. Wright & was never insulted enough to leave. If I walked into my church & my pastor started spewing the types of messages that Wright shared with his congregation, I would be finding another church. Why? Because I don't support anti-American messages & propoganda. By attending each service week after week & year after year, Obama had to have felt the same way or he would have left long ago. I have serious reservations about a potential president exposing himself to something like this for 20 yrs w/out objecting. Again, if that makes me a redneck, so be it.
Posted by: Rose The Redneck :-) on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Jeannie: "I probably pay more in taxes than you make in a year." I don't know if you do or not. Who cares? I don't engage with people who are rude. If being a redneck means the opposite of you, then I'll wear that title with pride! Thanks!
Posted by: Rose on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I cannot help it if you do not like the facts. What you do not realize is that I do research of information for a living, so I'm very careful about what I believe & do research it. I do not care how Obama has refuted some of these facts. Why? Because they are all still facts & many of his explanations are weak & side-stepping...trying to downplay them (which I cannot blame him...I'd want to downplay them also). Jess, I'm quite familiar with Snopes & use it frequently. I never claimed Obama was a Muslim, did I? I know he is not a Muslim. Thanks for the link, though. Even Snopes says it is true he did not put his hand over his heart at that event. It appears to be negligence on his part, rather than refusal, but that's not something I would think a Presidential candidate would forget. At any rate, out of all the facts, that is the least of my concerns. I did not throw out false statements & personal attacks. I'm sorry if you find the truth tacky. Sometimes the truth hurts, Jess.
Posted by: THE FACTS PART 2 on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:36 PM
4. Obama & his mentor (who happened to be a communist) Frank Marshall Davis. Obama admitted in his own books to attending "socialist converences.": http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor 5. Obama did not put his hand over his heart during the national anthem at Tom Harkin's Iowa Steak Fry. This might have been out of ignorance of the rule or forgetfulness, but it is true: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1662530_1446035,00.html 6. Obama did, in fact, say that if Osama bin Laden were captured he should be allowed to appeal his case to U.S. civilian courts: http://www.examiner.com/a-1445814~Obama_advisers_say_bin_Laden_can_appeal_to_U_S__courts.html
Posted by: Will O'really on Sep 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Hi Jeannie. I thought you said you spent your money in Canada. This seems odd since you then said you had to spend your money on insurance. This, of course, cannot be true due to the wonderful free medical system in Canada. Either you are a blatant liar or you are just stirring up stink to cause an argument. Do us all a favor and close your pie hole until you can get your story strait. I want to go back to the educated argument between Rose and Tiffany. Congratulations on paying more in taxes than Rose makes in a year. That kind of puts you in the upper class doesn't it? Either way, that is a personal attack. If that is true, aren't you the reason for this whole argument to begin with. As far as the race card you have thrown out to Rose. I won't speak for her, but I vote based on my beliefs. I don't give a rats backside if the person is black, white, male, or female. As long as they believe like me.
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 17, 2008 at 08:35 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp First go to that link n read up on your facts. I must say i check this message board everyday and have enjoyed reading yours and Tiffany's comments you both make great points. I am voting for Obama 100% but i thoroughly enjoyed you reasons for voting McCain you made me understand why you were doing so in a way that i had to respect it. In till you started throwing out false statements about Obama. The whole refusing to put his hand on his heart for the national anthem is false. I wouldn't either cause just like him I was raised to sing along with arms placed in front of me. I place my hand on my heart only during the pledge of allegiance. Does that make me anti American? I was actually raised in ILL till i was 16 and moved here n 1998 maybe its an ILL thing i don't know.... vote who you want but don't throw out false statements a untrue personal attacks its tacky and made me lose respect for you.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:48 PM
I needed that refund check to help me pay for two months' worth of my health insurance.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Yes, Rose, you are a paranoid redneck. And I apologize to all rednecks that may read this because I know some of you are very good people. Just because YOU SAY IT is true doesn't make it TRUE. Simple Google searches will help you identify the facts which you seek (or should seek). There are many, many sites that dispute nearly everything you spew. If, however, because of your obviously severe case of redneckedness (I graduated from the G.W. Bush School of Linguistics), you have been left with an inability to perform a Google search (which I must admit to pondering) and you simply rely on the latest E-MAIL in your INBOX from NIGERIA, then go to SNOPES.COM
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:31 PM
I probably pay more in taxes than you make in a year.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Anyone who cares to know the truth about the church Barrack Obama USED to belong too here is the link. www.tucc.org/about.htm There is a big difference in being proud of being black and being an extremist Rose. Yes, it does make you sound like a paranoid redneck. I'm sorry I hate to sound that way and I hate to insult someone but when you type the nonsense that you just did I can't help it. I could understand your thinking on healthcare and welfare but those comments are ridiculous. They are comments that the news hasn't even bothered repeating since January. They are unfair and untrue. His church had a large majority of black people, they accepted anyone though. How is that different from any other church in America that is predominantly white? There are plenty of Evangelist out there who are very extreme however, republicans continue to listen to their pastors and belong to their churches and nobody says a thing. That is why this bothers me.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 17, 2008 at 02:42 PM
So I seriously doubt having being raised by a white family that Obama is anti white which is what you are implying. IF I am playing "the race card" so are you.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 17, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Actually Rose I'm not angry. I think you are wrong. Even John McCain left the Rev Wright controversy alone because he knew it wasn't fair. The news doesn't even bother to mention your claim about Hamas so why would I pay any attention to it? You are now to the point where you are making things up. Obama doesn't put his hand over his heart during the national anthem? I'm sure that's a Bill O Reilly episode. I think your comments are laughable. If I thought they had any substance I would look them up but I really doubt it. You should probably go to Factcheck.com and check it out for yourself. I am not "playing the race card". How very predictable of you to say. I only find it ridiculous that your not talking about Sara Palins comments on Jewish people. Saying that terrorism against jews is gods judgement. Plenty of people go to churchs that have preachers with extreme beliefs. Obamas mother is white. His grandmother who he obviously loves and respects is white.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Of course you cashed & spent your check. How very hypocritical.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 17, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Jeannie, of course you cashed & spent your check. What a hypocrite.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 17, 2008 at 01:27 PM
You are only mad because every single point I made is TRUE! I challenge you to find proof that the reasons I gave for not trusting Obama are false. I refuse to vote for a man who won't salute the flag, put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, & who removed the flag from his jet. If John McCain attended a church & followed a spiritual leader who supported white supremacy, I wouldn't like him either. You are pulling the race card & it's disgusting & makes me want to vomit up my lunch. Everything I pointed out is true & are very good reasons to question his character & integrity. If, by refusing to blindly turn my head to these frightening facts, makes me a "paranoid redneck," then so be it. I'd rather be a "paranoid redneck" than put a man in office who has followed the disgusting, racist, Anti-American venom of Rev. Wright for the past 2 decades, willingly. There may be white preachers like him, only in reverse, that has nothing to do w/the fact Obama has supported it.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM
PLEASE! Do you know how many white preachers there are that probably feel the same way as rev wright only reversed. Why wasnt McCains church underneath a microscope being picked apart? Hamas? It's disgraceful that you would even repeat that. Terrorist also said they wanted John Kerry for president. Why would you put anything into what a terrorist group says? Why even give them the pleasure of repeating what they say. They say things for a reason and noone knows that reason. When it comes to terrorism you should always be skeptical of why they are saying anything. Your reasons for not trusting Obama are reasons that Fox News have given "white America" to be afraid of. Go ahead, come back with your " typical liberal" using the race card. I'm sick of people like you making the rest of us look like paranoid rednecks. The "less furtunate" that I was referring to were the millions who are uninsured. YOU just decided to go on a little rant about medicaid recipients.
Posted by: TO ROSE on Sep 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM
You have been indoctrinated well. I see you use the Rovian strategy in arguments. You argue over whether or not someone misquoted you and only make points on personality-driven issues rather than on facts. Really, how can anyone possibly prove most people on welfare have flat-panel TVs. Oh, yeah, right, you know EMTs and they are your proof. I want to hear your arguments against corporate welfare also. Corporations are taking far more money from the pockets of the middle class than all of welfare combined. MCCAIN wants to TAX your HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS. That just doesn't make sense. You would vote for someone who would raise your taxes? Obama will not. I see you have also reverted to silly logic about Obama's patriotism. Give me a break! You're a fool. Please respond quickly to let me know how I have misrepresented your arguments and logic.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM
I spent my refund check in Canada.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:51 PM
It doesn't matter to me a bit how Obama's health plan works. Why? Because I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher due to many other reasons: his spiritual leader for 20 yrs has been Jeremiah Wright (racist & anti-American), he is friends w/William Ayers & Bernadine Dorhn (unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists), he was mentored by a David Mendell (communist) & has admitted to attending "socialist conferences." He has been endorsed by Hamas (the terrorist group). His patriotism is, at best, questionable. He thinks that if Osama bin Laden is captured he should be allowed to appeal his case to U.S. civilian courts (McCain opposes this). Shall I go on? Do we really need any more reasons not to trust him?
Posted by: Rose on Sep 16, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I certainly will blame Clinton for the terrorism mess we have! 1993: World Trade Center bombing killing & injuring US citizens, 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia killing & injuring US military personnel, 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia killing & injuring US military personnel, 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa killing & injuring many, 2000 bombing of the USS Cole killing & injuring US sailors. Clinton did nothing real to stop or prevent further attacks. Bush certainly wasn't in charge at this time, so who is to blame? After the first attack in 1993, he should have done something to prevent the rest & stop this. He did not. He had 3 chances to seize Osama bin Laden & didn't do it (Sunday Times of London). So,yeah, I will blame Clinton, thank you very much.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 16, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Tiffany, you just keep proving over and over again that you actually don't read anything that I bother writing. Posted on Sep 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM: "Ask any paramedic or EMT who goes into people's homes & they will tell you that most people on Medicaid (remember, the "less fortunate?") have MORE than THEY do & they are working! They have flat panel TVs & better cars than the people picking them up for their toothache (& paying for it thru taxes!). Remember, I also never said that working middle class people are these same people. I was addressing Tiffany's plea for more help for the "less fortunate." I don't believe uninsured people were mentioned here. Do you? I guess I hacked into the TV station's website & changed that post, right? /sarcasm
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 16, 2008 at 06:50 PM
Obamas health care plan is not "socialized medicine". Under his plan you can keep the plan you have now or you can opt to receive the same benefits as congress or a a public plan. That is not socialized medicine. That is just another one of the republicans lies to the American people to make them think that the current way is the only way. It is not "unrealistic". These companies profit billions of dollars at your expense.
Posted by: Checks on Sep 16, 2008 at 05:36 PM
Jeannie, so I assume you sent your checks back to the treasury & didn't cash them? Yeah...I didn't think so.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 16, 2008 at 05:34 PM
I put the link to the polls. It is a website that reports ALL polls & I included it earlier: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls McCain is leading. This has been common knowledge since the Republican Convention.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 16, 2008 at 05:31 PM
That's right Rose....when all else fails BLAME CLINTON. It's funny that anything good that was accomplished during the Clinton administrations republicans say it was there doing, anything bad, was Clintons fault. Even the things that have went on recently is all Clintons fault. Hurricane Katrina, was that Clinton too? You know what no need to answer Rose, I already know what you are going to say. All I have to do is watch Bill O Reilly to get your answers. John Kerry volunteered to go to vietnam yet I'm sure you didn't think he was fit to run this country. "Most people I know who do not have enough for healthcare have computers, etc" Not a word about medicaid Rose.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 16, 2008 at 04:43 PM
I am not trying to influence you. I'm only saying what I think and why I would not vote for McCain. I just saw the polls last night and obama and McCain were tied. I don't know what poll you saw but the one on CNN says they are tied, 45 45
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 16, 2008 at 01:14 PM
TO: I LIKE GW: You refund checks are being borrowed from China. Do you still like GW? Kerry was a hero, too. Did you vote for him? Your comments sound like you have watched too much FAUX NEWS lately. I can tell when someone has been brainwashed.
Posted by: I Like GW! on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:21 AM
I know this may be hard to believe, but I don't have a problem with George Bush. So I really don't care if he has voted along with him! I can't think of any other president who has sent refund checks to people not once, but twice. No other president has done that for me. None of the problems we are currently experiencing, as a family, are George Bush's fault. He's also the only president that has had the guts to fight terrorism. Terrorism wouldn't be as bad as it is right now if Bill Clinton hadn't ignored it & let them continuously attack us. Say what you want, but we haven't been attacked again since 9/11, have we? He also signed the bill that did away with the most heinous form of abortion there is. Nobody is perfect, Bush is no exception, but I like him & I like McCain. McCain is a hero & anyone who can endure what he endured in Vietnam is man enough for me to be president. And there is nothing wrong with Palin, I like her too! So that argument is not going to influence me.
Posted by: Flat Panel TVs on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Tiffany, the comments about flat panel TVs, computers, satellite, etc...that was referring to MEDICAID patients, not uninsured. Reread what I wrote. Don't believe me? Ask any EMS worker & they will tell you that a majority of their runs are MEDICAID patients on welfare & they often have more creature comforts than the paramedics who serve them. It's a fact. It's also a fact that after welfare checks go out, calls increase due to drug overdoses, domestic disputes, & alcohol related incidents. It's a public holiday & they celebrate each month! However, this was not referring to you or any uninsured family.
Posted by: POLLS on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM
You are wrong, McCain is ahead Rasmussen, Gallup, Associated Press, & Fox News. Newsweek is a tie & Obama leads by 1 on Hotline. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 16, 2008 at 07:59 AM
Actually Rose they are tied in the polls. In most electoral maps it has Obama beating McCain 273 to 265 and that is giving McCain Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania. So you are wrong. Your remark about the media is wrong too. CNN is owned by General Electric who gave George W. 2.5 million dollars in his 2000 campaign. MSNBC is owned by Microsoft who gave George W. Bush 1 million dollars in the same campaign. Those two stations may appear to be liberal but they are not. They get pressure from conservatives. That's why CNN has people like Wolf Blitzer, Low Dobbs and Glenn Beck. The only channel that is truly biased is Fox NEWS. IF you want reliable news my suggestion is to find a site on the internet that is not affiliated with either political party.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 16, 2008 at 07:32 AM
You said that most people who were uninsured had flat panel tvs computers and satellite. Myself being one of the uninsured that offends me and I take it personally. I said that I have never had assistance to prove a point. You and other republicans continue to say that democrats are whiny, or that we just want the government to do everything for us, or we don't want to accept our own responsibilities. I am sick of hearing that. You don't like universal healthcare but you agree that it's okay to only allow certain people to go to college. If you do not go straight after high school chances are you won't go and I'm sorry but that's not fair. The reasons differ, but alot of the time it is the cost. It should not be so difficult for one to better themselves. One mistake and that's it. Your done. You have a kid at 18 or 19 and chances are unless you have a lot of help from family you will go nowhere. Stuck at a dead end job. That is just facts Rose. It is getting harder to educate yourself.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 16, 2008 at 07:22 AM
As soon as I realized I forgot to put the word to in my comment I tried to correct it. THat was obviously not done on purpose. What reason would I have to make my statement look like his? My insurance, is 150 a check, not a month. You are wrong about Obamas plan is for insurance you may want to go look it up. As far as John McCains proposal goes I don't believe in a man who has voted with the president 90%of the time. Also I cannot accept anything from him to be true when he has been caught lieing so much. I used to like McCain until his idiotic pick for Palin and the ridiculous adds he has put out against Obama. McCain wants to continue the same economic policies of the president which are obviously failing. A man cannot call himself a "maverick" when he votes right with the president with the lowest approval rating in history. I will not vote for him and do not believe anything he says to be true.He agrees with the most dishonest and secretive administration this country has seen.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 15, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I'm not sure where the first part of my last posts went, but it really doesn't matter as they aren't really read anyway or understood. I am not the one who has been brainwashed by the mass media. Everyone knows the mass media is liberal & leans to the left. You are the one who is uninformed & brainwashed. Vote for Obama...I don't care. My vote for McCain will cancel it out anyway. He's ahead in all the polls, so it's apparent that the people of America are not seeing things quite the same way that you are. November will tell the tale. Speaking of myths, maybe YOU should read up on the myths of socialized health care: http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter/catosletterv3n1.pdf And, please, why don't you READ this so you will be informed. I don't want people voting for socialized medicine thinking it's all fluff and roses.
Posted by: TO ROSE on Sep 15, 2008 at 09:02 PM
You may understand the problem but you are far too brainwashed by the mass media telling you that it's all your fault that you've had to struggle your entire life.
Posted by: TO ROSE on Sep 15, 2008 at 08:54 PM
You are very uninformed. There is no solution to the health care crisis unless the government gets involved. It's impossible for the AVERAGE family to afford health insurance which costs my husband and myself (paid out of our own pocket) over $600/month, and our deductible is $5,000. So I just hope we are protected if God forbid cancer strikes either one of us. As for routine care for ailments that flare up, we can't go to the doctor because we can't afford to by the time we pay for our health insurance. Even with a tax credit (max $5000/year) by McCain, most Americans cannot afford to pay this amount. Allowing insurance companies to bargain with everyone individually will only allow them to take more advantage of us. All you have ever heard about Canada's healthcare system is a MYTH. Emergency care is received quickly in Canada. Elective procedures do wait a few weeks. If I have to wait a few weeks for a routine mammogram so that someone else can live, what a small sacrifice!!! Cont.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 15, 2008 at 04:12 PM
And as for the last comment to my husband (which you conveniently made look like he typed the comment, by the way)...he is sleeping right now because he has to work overnight tonight, so I will reply. You have the nerve to say that I take everything YOU say and TWIST it? Hahaha! My husband was AGREEING with you & you speak to him like that? He DID NOT say that YOU did not take care of your grandmother! Wow! He agreed with you & said that the elderly should be taken care of & family should also help. He didn't say TIFFANY didn't take care of her grandma! Unbelievable! I think what your grandma went through is awful & we agree 100%. We went through the same problems with his grandmother who, unfortunately, passed away two months ago. Do not presume to act like we don't understand this problem. All he said was that care for the elderly should be a given & that the government AND family need to provide that for them. That does not imply you didn't care for your grandma.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 15, 2008 at 04:04 PM
8. (continued)...Could you tell me why his plan is not going to benefit you, because I am very curious. Wouldn't this be better than socialized medicine where, yes, everything is free but you have no choice in the quality you are receiving and have to wait on huge waiting lists for important procedures & surgeries? If you don't address anything else I have mentioned, please answer these questions for me.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 15, 2008 at 04:03 PM
7. I believe in total equality & I know that these resources are available for 100% of the population. If that is not equality, I do not know what is. If you are underprivelledged, you actually have more resources to go to college than others. 8. You may have never said that we or anyone else should take care of your problems, but who is going to pay for your insurance if you don't? I'm not trying to be mean or spiteful, but truly...who pays? If you cannot be responsible for paying $150/month for your family, who is going to pay for it, Tiffany? Healthcare, as you know, is not free. Do you not find that John McCain's plan of giving you $5,000/year would be beneficial in your case? $150/month X 12 = $1800. You would have your health insurance covered & have a large portion leftover to put in a health care spending account.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 15, 2008 at 04:02 PM
4. For the record, I completely understand that the people you are referring to are those who WORK. I believe you have misunderstood because I was discussing two different subjects tandemly. To keep it simple, I will only discuss working, uninsured families here. 5. I have never doubted how hard you and your husband work. I never meant to suggest that you want the government to do things for you or take care of you. I also never suggested that you have been on public assistance at any point in time. I apologize if you read that into my previous comments. 6. When I say that people need to take advantage of the resources available to them to go to college, etc I do NOT mean public assistance. I meant scholarships (which in WV a high school graduate can go to college w/no problems through the Promise scholarship is they worked hard in school). I meant grants, student loans, etc. These are all available for anyone who wants to go to college. I have no doubt you know this already.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 15, 2008 at 12:05 PM
That was to Roses husband not by.
Posted by: Roses husband on Sep 15, 2008 at 05:08 AM
Did I ever say that the government should take care of the elderly and not there families. NO I DID NOT! I simply said that the government should make sure that an 87 year old woman does not have to decide between her prescriptions and her social security check. I never once said that the families should not help the elderly. THAT was an assumption on your part that was just wrong. Like I said my grandmother had her medical card taken away because her SSI check was too high. A big 900 a month. SHe lost her benefits. WE took care of it though and made sure her medicine was purchased and that she was taken care of. This is THE LAST comment that will be posted to you so let me just say for the record ALL AMERICANS SHOULD WORK. I do not believe that people should have to work three jobs though, this is not Russia or China. The gap between the rich and the poor is increasing. McCain/Palin will continue to divide this country and we will have bigger problems then the ones we are facing now.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 15, 2008 at 05:01 AM
For the record I have NEVER had any public assistance and neither has anyone in my family. We all have worked our entire lives and that is going back for five generations. I am tired of hearing that democrats or people who just believe in equality are not accepting responsibilities. The fact is is that YOUR political party uses division tactics. They are dividing this country further and further. They are causing people like you to view people like me as lazy or whiners. Insurance companies PROFIT billions a year. The healthcare industry profits billions as well. There is no sense in charging people what they charge. 150 a month may be a "deal" for you but it's not affordable for me. Even without internet or cable. I have NEVER EVER said YOU or anyone else should take care of me or my problems. This is going NOWHERE because you are simply distorting everything I am saying. Congratulations, the republican party would be very proud.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 15, 2008 at 04:52 AM
I seriously doubt that you have been to the millions of Americans homes who are uninsured. So to judge the many by a few is ridiculous. I am not going to get into a battle about who has struggled more but rest assured that my family has seen more tragedies then I care to mention. What bothers me Rose is that you don't understand that the people I am referring to ARE people who WORK. Lpns who have to work 60 hours a week just to get by. The same people who were getting by just fine working 40 hours a week eight years ago. That is what bothers me. My husband worked 40 hours a week, and went to lpn school 40 hours a week so I know what it is like to "struggle". I do not have enough time to sit and tell you all of our accomplishments. I have previously explained to you repeatedly how hard my husband and I work and you continue to say things that suggest I want the government to do things for me and that I am not taking advantage of resources that are available to me.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 15, 2008 at 04:40 AM
I am aware that there are democrats voting for McCain. They are not democrats. If you agree with the policies of a man who has voted with George Bush 90% of the time then you should reconsider which political party you belong to. As far as your struggles go, you may have struggled in the past but apparently you are not impacted by the struggles of today so you are not seeing how difficult it is for people right now. I have never suggested you were an "elitists" only that you do not realize how difficult things are at this time. I know myself how expensive health care is and how much it costs to go to school. My mother father and husband are all LPN's. I have worked in the mental health field now for the last eight years. You are not telling me anything that I don't already know. I am not the one judging here Rose. You are the one suggesting that the millions of Americans who are uninsured and who cannot afford to send there children to college simply need to budget better.
Posted by: Rose's husband on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Tiffany, I will agree with you on one thing. The elderly should be taken care of. Please keep in mind though that is is not only the responsibility of the government but also the family. I also don't have a problem with temporary welfare. As long as it is temporary. The government should require that welfare recipients train for a job, and send them into the workforce within one to two years. The government does provide assistance in this case. They give millions of grants every year.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:34 PM
Part 3: You can thank those who file frivolous lawsuits & milk the insurance companies for these high prices. There are definitely times when a law suit is necessary, but until something is done about the abuse of the system you can expect high prices & less choice because our doctors are leaving the state. The bottom line is this: I HAVE had to struggle & I have seen that I can make more of myself if I want. This is the exact reason I get angry & don't accept excuses from others. I know it was difficult & took a while, but I also know it was worth it. I think that those who make excuses don't really want it bad enough or they would take advantage of all the ways they could accomplish it. I understand all too well & it drives you crazy for some reason. It's like you refuse to believe that someone who has had to struggle would think this way. But the fact is many people just like me are tired of others making excuses & not accepting responsibility for their own situations.
Posted by: Rose's husband on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:31 PM
Tiffany, With all due respect, our whole married life has been a struggle. We live from paycheck to paycheck just like you or anyone else. The biggest difference between your situation and ours is that we don't believe it is anyone's responsibility but ours to make our life better. If we don't, then that is our problem. NOT THE GOVERNMENTS. We all have equal chances. I don't choose your career and you don't choose mine. How hard you choose work with those chances is completely up to you. I didn't have a golden spoon. I had to pay my own way. It is not my responsibility to take care of you. It is your job to take care of yourself.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:22 PM
Part 2: We are common people who took care of ourselves & our own needs. We are certainly NOT perfect & have plenty of room for improvement, like everyone else on earth. But you are WRONG about me & my family. Dead wrong. Do I disagree with you that America would be a wonderful place if we had all the things you described? NO! But it's unrealistic. Medical care is EXPENSIVE & a reasonable price for health insurance is not free. Doctors, nurses, & other health professionals have to spend a huge amt of time & money going to school, keeping their licenses & paying for malpractice insurance. The price of college is expensive, as well. It takes a huge amount of money to run a college, pay the staff, keep it supplied, and insured. Anyone who wants to go to college can if they want. Sure, life would be grand if everything was free or "affordable" (which obviously means close to free to you). The insurance you are offered at the price you described is a deal. Full price it's about $900/mo!
Posted by: Rose on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:13 PM
Tiffany, you are dead wrong. Number 1, my family (not ME, my parents) ARE democrats & have NEVER voted for a republican until this election coming up. Many democrats will not be voting for Obama & voting Republican for the first time this year whether you want to believe that or not. Second, I've probably struggled more than you ever have. I grew up on a farm & we raised all our own food. We only had wood heat & no a/c. I worked hard on that farm & my father worked for a coal mine. He was unemployed for three years & we lived off the land. My husband & I got married very young & struggled like crazy, working numerous jobs. Our living conditions were very poor & our kitchen ceiling even fell in one day on me. But instead of sitting around & allowing this to get us down, we pulled ourselves up & bettered our lives. You are obviously bothered by that & want to think that we are elitists & "don't understand" the plights of the "common person." We ARE the common people.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 13, 2008 at 03:43 PM
One more thing Rose, the nation was 11th in life expectancy in 2000. It has dropped that much in eight years. Sorry but I never said you were well to do. I said that apparently you have never had to struggle with anything. If you had you would be able to understand.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 13, 2008 at 03:39 PM
We should not have to work two and three jobs to get by. We shouldn't HAVE to cancel our cable or out phone. I'm sorry but that's the way I see it. It should be made affordable to EVERYONE. You will not understaand because you apparently have done everything perfect and have not had to struggle, if you have had to struggle you still did everything right so I really don't know how you would understand any of this. Your family is not democrats. No democrat would vote for McCain, no true democrat anyway. That's really all I have to say. I wish you could understand but you don't. The only way you would is if you were affected by these things, and your not.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 13, 2008 at 03:35 PM
There is no point Rose, you will never ever be able to understand what other people go through. You can't understand and you really do not want to understand. Not all of us are like the people you are describing. Not all of us want to live off of the gov and do nothing. We should have more chances then we do. The price of college should be lowered. Health insurance should be made affordable to people and medicaid should be made available to more people. Senior citizens need to be treated better and stop having there medicaid taken away because there SSI check is too much, don't argue that, it happened to my grandmother, children need to be better educated in school, we need better teachers, we need less guns on the street, there is no reason anyone needs AK47's and that's about all I have to say. I honestly don't know how anyone can argue that these things are not important to the country. We all deserve the same rights. We should all be able to live nice and still have insurance.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 13, 2008 at 02:40 PM
So you don't misunderstand, I do know how hard some people work (we are NOT rich, lol) & I do know that there are people who truly are less fortunate & need help. I was not referring to these people. I was talking about Tiffany's comment concerning the government needing to help the less fortunate. The whole welfare system needs reformed big time & you won't get any disagreement from me about that. More help should be available for those who fall through the cracks (the working poor) & those who abuse the system should be cut off or required to work for assistance. At any rate, my husband gave all the reasons why I am not for socialized medicine. I would prefer to have a large portion of my taxes returned to purchase insurance so as not to eliminate my choices & quality of care. Only John McCain offers that & I'm voting for him. We can go around in circles all day, but I disagree with you & am voting for the better choice for me & my family. MCCAIN. Have a nice day!
Posted by: Rose's Husband on Sep 13, 2008 at 02:24 PM
If your husband works for the state, he has a better job than most people in the state of WV. His benefits & retirement are better than most in WV. He has a chance to buy insurance for a lower cost than most. The price you quoted is lower than employees at CAMC pay, you have it pretty good. Health care is not cheap because people abuse the system. It's not cheap because other people choose not to buy insurance & someone has to absorb the costs. The problem doesn't lie with the government, but with the consumer. Your idea of socialized medicine will decrease the quality & availability of healthcare. It encourages communism because you have to MAKE people work in the medical field to lower costs to cover anyone. People in countries w/socialized medicine sometimes have to be on huge waiting lists for serious surgeries. I would rather pay for my insurance (as I do) & have the best care & choices available to me & my family.
Posted by: Rose's Husband on Sep 13, 2008 at 02:17 PM
I think you are totally mistaken. We are middle class & I bust my rump working 2 & 3 jobs. My priority is to take care of my family & that includes HEALTH INSURANCE and other things come last. And as for everyone not having the same opportunities, you are WRONG. I had to pay for my college & am STILL paying almost 11 yrs after graduating because I chose to better myself. If you choose not to better yourself, that is your own fault, not mine. You have the same opportunities. You can choose to go to school, work, etc. I worked 2-3 jobs to get through college to make it work & graduated with a 3.0. So I don't feel sympathy for anyone who comes up with any excuse as to why they cannot do it. If that means that I don't get to know those people, oh well. I don't want to know dead beats. And, yes, "don't have as good a life." Use that money to buy your health insurance, the price quoted is not unreasonable. You won't have a life if you don't care for your health. Your priorities are messed up
Posted by: Rose on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:14 PM
To "Anonymous @ 3:15pm"...you probably only read part 3 of my posts. At any rate, I certainly am not comparing all liberals & Democrats to drug addicts & drunks. My whole family is Democratic (who are voting for MCCAIN this time around, by the way). You show me where I said that all liberals & Democrats are drunks & drug addicts, because you can't. Ask any paramedic or EMT who goes into people's homes & they will tell you that most people on Medicaid (remember, the "less fortunate?") have MORE than THEY do & they are working! They have flat panel TVs & better cars than the people picking them up for their toothache (& paying for it thru taxes!). Remember, I also never said that working middle class people are these same people. I was addressing Tiffany's plea for more help for the "less fortunate." To answer your question...no, I do not believe people should be buying unnecessary creature comforts when they have a need to cover their health care insurance. It is your responsibility.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:06 PM
I can understand not being sympathetic towards people who do not work and who blow all of there money. I can't stand those people either. But, I am not going to sit and judge and assume that all people who may need some help are like that. There is no reason why everyone in this country should not have insurance. Everyone should have the same chances and right now we don't. Gas is going up right now because of a hurricane that hasn't even hit yet. Its 4.75 in Bowling Green. If the gov is going to let price gouging happen then they need to raise the minimum wage for people. They need to lower the cost of college so people can better themselves if they want. You have made your mind up and that's fine. One day though you might realize that all people that are middle class or poor are not just lazy and wasteful. I think it's sad that you feel the way you do. It cuts you off from really knowing what people go through and how hard some people work.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 12, 2008 at 03:15 PM
So that's the answer Rose, just don't have as good of a life because you need health insurance. I have a computer, your right. I have basic cable and a basic phone. I guess I could cut off my cable and phone but guess what, that still would not give me enough. It's 150 a pay check. You should not group middle class America with people on medicaid. We are not the same. I can't get it and I'm sorry but I don't know many people that can. I know that they help people who are dirt poor but as far as the people in between, there isn't much. Stop comparing all democrats or liberals to drug addicts and drunks.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 12, 2008 at 08:41 AM
Most people I know who don't have enough for health care have computers, internet, cable, satellite, video game systems, & numerous other things that are unnecessary to live...but no insurance. And as far as the government not helping those who are less fortunate...are you kidding me? If your husband works for the state, then you should know all to well how much the government takes care of those who are less fortunate. The 3rd of every month is a holiday! Do you have any idea how much busier the EMS & ER systems in this state are on the 3rd of the month due to intoxication, violence, & drug use? Do you also realize that about 3/4 of the EMS calls are to Medicaid patients? Insured patients only call when they need to go, but Medicaid patients will call an ambulance for a toothache. A majority of the "less fortunate" (not ALL of them) are the reason that people like me are not as sympathetic as you would like. I'd give my last dollar to someone who really needed it.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 12, 2008 at 08:30 AM
Furthermore, it may be true that the U.S. ranks in the 40s in life expectancy, but a majority of the countries above us only beat us by a few months to a year. It is a well-known fact that the reason our life expectancy is slightly lower than many of those countries is due to our own eating habits. This is something we can control, believe it or not, and we would gain those few months that other countries have. Don't tell me I don't understand what it's like because I do. I had liver failure in college & no health insurance (remember, Clinton administration?). You have no idea how well I understand & it's laughable that you seem to think that my family is well-to-do or something, LOL. Pardon me if I find it hard to empathize, but it's true that I don't understand why people don't prioritize better. On the whole, many people will have many unnecessary creature comforts but don't have money to pay for health insurance. This is what I mean by personal responsibility.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 12, 2008 at 08:09 AM
Pot? Kettle? You say I have an answer for everything? :-) And you don't? Hehehe...ok, Tiffany, if you say so. I agree, I think that the government should give us some of our tax money so that we can get health insurance & offset the costs. John McCain agrees, also: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ba2f1c-c03f-4ac2-8cd5-5cf2edb527cf.htm "every family will receive a direct refundable tax credit - effectively cash - of $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families to offset the cost of insurance." So what's the problem? It just so happens that the decade that we spent a majority of w/out health insurance was the 1990s during the Clinton administration. Remember? They promised Universal Health care? I voted for Clinton twice & got nothing (yeah we used to be Dems!) We had to take it upon ourselves to find jobs that provided insurance. And your husband works for the state?? And you have no health insurance? OK... (???) I never said you were a moocher. Typical spin.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 11, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Rose you have no idea what people go through. You have an answer for everything. Sometimes people have children before all there ducks are in a row. It happens. I do not think that the government should take care of me. I do think that it's ridiculous that the richest nation in the world is 42nd in life expectancy. It's also ridiculous that we are the richest nation in the world yet we do not help the less fortunate that live here. I am not someone who doesn't work and just expects the government to take care of all my problems. But, please tell me what is wrong with the government using some of OUR tax money to help us with health care. I work and pay taxes. My husband works for the state of West Virginia so we are not moochers. His insurance is too expensive. There is no room for me to cut anything. I have cut back on everything I can. until you realize that people are not just whining and being lazy you cannot truly understand what it is like. It's not just health care either.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 11, 2008 at 12:45 AM
I think we all can agree that there needs to be affordable health insurance options for people to take advantage of. Have any of you read John McCain's plan for this? http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ba2f1c-c03f-4ac2-8cd5-5cf2edb527cf.htm He has many sound & workable ideas that could easily be implemented. They make sense & would help many of the people stuck in the middle that have been described.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
For anyone who wants to argue that Americans don't die sooner from not being insured here is an article for you to read. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/apr2008/life-a24.shtml
Posted by: More Ideas For You on Sep 10, 2008 at 09:39 PM
http://www.americanpregnancy.org/planningandpreparing/affordablehealthcare.html there are some good ideas here regarding pregnancy & childbirth being made more affordable.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 10, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Tiffany, you may want to check here: http://www.goldenrule.com/health_insurance/health/index.aspx I have had several friends purchase insurance through them who were in a similar situation. The premium was affordable (at least it used to be, you'd need to check). I hope this helps.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 10, 2008 at 09:14 PM
I understand completely about not having health insurance. My husband & I had little to no insurance while we were in college & for a period of time thereafter. We saved money & purchased a basic health insurance policy through the college. After college, we were sure that one of us had a job that provided affordable insurance. We did not have children for the first seven years of our marriage because we were not financially able to provide for health care to have a child. I do empathize, however there is a certain amount of personal responsibility that goes along with it. For us, we realized our situation & refrained from having kids until we got our ducks in a row. I'm not suggesting that any of you are irresponsible. But there are many people out there that think that their health care isn't their own responsibility and they are wrong. Just like everything else, we have to prioritize & budget/save for our health care needs.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 10, 2008 at 06:02 PM
The sliding scale fee that you are talking about is also a joke. I am four months pregnant, can't get medicaid and can't afford insurance. I got put on the sliding scale fee and I still have to pay 145 dollars everytime I go to the doctor. I also will have an enormous bill, that I can't afford, for the delivery. I have nothing to cover me at work during my maternity leave. So I know for a fact that the programs that are in place leave people out and honestly they just do not work. If you didn't mean anything by the Hussein comment okay I'll take your word for it. Honestly though, how many times have you read or heard someone say that he is not trustworthy because of his name or because he is a muslim. That is what it looked like you were suggesting. I am only trying to show you and tell you other peoples sides. If I hadn't experienced these problems with insurance myself I wouldn't know either. You have to be dirt poor to get any help and you have to have plenty of money for insurance.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 10, 2008 at 05:55 PM
Yes Rose people do die because they do not have insurance. Look up the statistics on the average life exptectancy of a person with insurance and without insurance. Chips is an absolute joke. I had chips for my daughter and half of the doctors in huntington do not even accept it. The dental care through colleges that you are talking about is costly and not available to everyone. There is a category that many people fall under where they do not make enough money to afford insurance and make too much money for assistance. If you have never had to struggle with these problems I guess it is difficult to understand and to empathize with the millions of people that are faced with it. People always word things a certain way for a reason and it was obvious why you said it that way. Argue it if you want. The fact of the matter is if my husband or I came down with a serious illness we would have no help.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 10, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Sorry I read what you said wrong.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 10, 2008 at 01:04 PM
Tiffany (continued)...Health insurance is an important issue, but it does not trump abortion in my eyes. It's perfectly fine if others find this more important and I encourage them to vote their conscience. How is it clever to write out someone's full name? I did not name Barack Hussein Obama, his parents did. Is that not his name? Correct me if I am wrong because I thought it was. You can believe whatever you want about my "true meaning," but it seems you are making something out of nothing...which is very predictable.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 10, 2008 at 01:03 PM
Tiffany, there is nothing wrong with stem cell research. Fetal cells can be obtained through amniotic fluid & also adult stem cells are useful. McCain supports both of those methods over use of human embryos. See his website under "issues" for more on this. Comparing the two candidates for president, McCain wins my vote on this subject, hands down. You feel there are more important issues than abortion & that is ok. What you find important should direct & dictate how you vote. For me, abortion is #1 on my list of important issues & that is why I vote accordingly. I know of no one who has died due to lack of insurance. There are many options available for those who cannot afford insurance, including CHIP, sliding scale fees, charitable organizations, health/dental care through colleges (medical schools, etc), & public assistance.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Tiffany, in the comment you made at 2:33 PM on 9/9 you said, "My comment was not directed at you personally Rose. I was only saying what I think. If I would have been saying it to you your name would've been in it somewhere." In my last comment made at 6:32 PM on 9/9, I replied to the above comment by saying, "Tiffany, did I say that you directed your comments to me, personally? No I did not. I believe anyone has the right to reply to any comment that is posted here." Of course I was directing the above comment to you & that is why I put your name there. I agreed that you did not direct the comment to me, personally, and pointed out that I never said that you did. I also pointed out that I can reply to any comment I want. Nevermind...
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 10, 2008 at 01:06 AM
By the way, for all you pro lifers voting for McCain, he supports stem cell research which is the destroying of embryos. I guess that's different though.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Yes Rose actually you did direct it at me. You said "Tiffany" therefor it was directed at me. Abortion is a sad thing and it's a tragic thing but there are much more important issues. What about Parents who have a child with a serious illness and there insurance either won't cover it or they have no insurance and that family ends up losing everything they own. Or children who die sooner because their parents could not afford insurance or there work does not offer insurance and something that may have been noticed by a check up or a visit goes unnoticed. Or parents who die leaving there children behind because they did not have insurance and could not get the medical services they needed. This happens and I think that children who are already alive and outside of the womb are more important right now. As far as your Gov. Palin goes Americans know far less about her than Obama. How cleverly of you to put Hussein in there. That just shows your true meaning behind how you feel.
Posted by: charles carroll on Sep 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM
she's totaly unqualified , mcCain will die in office and she as(president) will fumble against the russians and that will be the end for the United States.Check it out the russians have strategic bombers based in cuba new subs that cant be detected and MIRV-ICBM's that can deliver 580 kilitons ,have counter measure capability(stealth)plus can survive a nuclear blast within 500 meters .
Posted by: Rose on Sep 9, 2008 at 06:32 PM
Tiffany, did I say that you directed your comments to me, personally? No I did not. I believe anyone has the right to reply to any comment that is posted here. Oh, yes, and likewise...there are many things that America does not know about Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 9, 2008 at 02:33 PM
My comment was not directed at you personally Rose. I was only saying what I think. If I would have been saying it to you your name would've been in it somewhere. There are a lot of things that America does not know about Gov. Palin.
Posted by: question on Sep 9, 2008 at 09:53 AM
Do you believe it's bad to have an abortion if there is a posibility that the mother could die in the process of the baby's birth?
Posted by: Elna on Sep 9, 2008 at 08:39 AM
McCain could have chosen God as a running mate; It would have been Republicians in the White House for four more years! We can't take four more years of good old rich boys..SEVEN HOUSES? WHY? One for every day of the week? He has no touch with regular people. Republicans will kill this country!
Posted by: james on Sep 9, 2008 at 08:37 AM
rose wake up. Tiffany i miss read your comment and i appologize. Now that being said reserch show that Sarah Palin has already lied to the american public. the famous bridge to no where, she was all for untill it turned into a joke, but dont take my word for look it up. Rose if you think Obama doesnt care adout children then yo havent LISTEN to anything the man has said. I myself dont want a president that will start a nuclear war ,even one of mcains own repudlican party members said that him self.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 8, 2008 at 08:45 PM
Tiffany, no one should have the right to kill another person...born or unborn. I'm perfectly aware that there are Democrats who are pro-life...Gov. Manchin is one of them. Abortion is a human issue, not just a women's issue. If you do not feel that the lives of unborn babies are important & deserve to protected, then vote for Obama. You are right about one thing...abortion is a DEAD issue. It's all about death & killing. It's your opinion only that Roe vs Wade will not be overturned. It's my opinion that will only prove true if people like me stop caring & vote for those who refuse to protect babies. To each their own...you vote the way you want to vote & I'll vote the way I want to vote. We'll see who wins in November.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 8, 2008 at 03:14 PM
There are lots of republicans out there that no longer vote on things like abortion, it is a dead issue. Roe vs Wade will not be overturned anytime soon. Partial Birth abortion is murder and I'm prochoice. My point here is that there are democratic pro-life politicians and there are republican pro-choice politicians like Rudy Giuliani. There are liberal pro-life people and conservitive prochoice. Abortion is more of a womens issue than anything and I think people should stop making it such a huge deal in an election year. There are more important things going on. We should worry about the millions of us who have already been born. I have heard people sticking up for Palin and calling anyone who questions her sexist no matter what there reasoning for questioning her is. The same people though will turn around and say even worse things about Hillary Clinton. Who better though to know about sexism than a party who wants to take the rights away from women?
Posted by: Full Time Mom on Sep 8, 2008 at 01:54 PM
To Anonymous @ 7:52 AM: No, I certainly meant "rabid," not "avid." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rabid 3. Extremely zealous or enthusiastic; fanatical: a rabid football fan. I'm also an English major. :-)
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 8, 2008 at 07:52 AM
Full time mom....I think you mean avid not "rabid". That would suggest you have rabies. :)
Posted by: Donna on Sep 7, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Palin's husband took time off work to be a stay-at-home dad...he is just as capable of raising his children as Sarah. Also, Sarah is very devoted to her kids. She even changed Trig's diaper minutes before her convention speech - cool as a cucumber!
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 7, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Some women have to work or they would be on welfare and then all you republicans would say that she was someone who is lazy and doesn't want to work. We are not all blessed with husbands who can support us.
Posted by: A Full Time Mom on Sep 7, 2008 at 06:43 PM
Jess, I am a full time mom to three children and am a rabid believer that women should stay home with their children. However, I would like to point out that if Palin were a man, none of this would be an issue. Maybe Obama's wife should stay home & raise their children, yes? Or maybe Obama, himself? I'm not disagreeing with your points. As I said, I am a stay-at-home mom, myself. But there are some women out there who can better the world more by working sometimes. I think Sarah Palin is one of those women.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 7, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Insulted...I'm insulted that you think that McCain would *only* pick her because she is a woman. She is just as capable as any man & even more so than some. And, I suppose your beliefs are different than mine, because she represents more of what I feel is right than Obama or Biden combined. Nobody is perfect, but I believe she will be a good Vice President. Again, we all have our opinions. But she was right on in her speech when she said that out of all four of them, McCain is the only one who has ever fought for any of us. And, for me, that's plenty of reason to vote for him. Compared to Obama, McCain is much more deserving and capable to be President.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 7, 2008 at 06:26 PM
Tiffany, if a woman can birth a baby breech up to it's head & then have it's brain sucked out, she can deliver the baby alive. There is no excuse in late term, partial-birth abortion. "Health of the mother" is a bunch of garbage. There's no reason to kill the baby to save a mother's life. Obama also is the only Illinois senator to speak *against* a law that would require doctors to provide medical attention to a baby who happened to be born alive, by mistake, during an abortion. He wasn't even phased by testimony from a nurse who had watched these babies be left alone to die. He voted & spoke against the Infants Born Alive act. Trooper Gate...did you know that trooper tasered his own 10 yr old stepson? He also has been accused of drinking & driving state vehicles. Palin is insulting & snide? At least she said what she had to say in public & didn't get caught talking behind people's backs in San Francisco about small towns & people just like us & our towns here in WV.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 7, 2008 at 03:56 PM
James...I support obama. Rose had previously told me that Obama supported late term abortion. I was only informing her that he only supports it in the event that the mothers life is in danger. I have about ten comments on here that are saying exactly what you just said so I don't know why you are arguing with me.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 7, 2008 at 01:54 PM
Don't be dramatic? Well dont be dramatic about how scary liberals are because some college kids got arrested at a protest. Two men had an idea to kill obama it doesn't matter if they were meth heads or not.
Posted by: Jess on Sep 7, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Palin needs to be at home taking care of her kids. Exp her new baby with down syndrome it makes me sick to think about all these mothers who think its more important to be successful and prove you can do what a man can and make it without em then to be a mother n raise your children yourself. When i see my daughter with other kids it makes me so proud to be a full time mom she's well behaved respectful and well manured. These kids that are raised by everyone but their parents cause there parents think money is more important are rude heck most don't even have basic manors like chewing with mouth shut not interrupting when someone else is talking.If you have to work as a mother to feed and shelter your family fine i respect that but if you can stay at home and maybe sacrifice a larger house or larger SUV then you should. Palin does not need to work she needs to be at home raising her kids.
Posted by: james on Sep 7, 2008 at 07:17 AM
FYI tiffany, We Obama supporters dont support late term abortion, We just feel a women has the right to decied what she wants for herself and her family, just like Sarah Palins daughter decieded to keep her baby. FYI another word for decision is choice, but i find it funny that only Palins family has the right for choice, isnt that border line communissum. 8 years of a dying economy, high gas prices, and food prices goin through the roof, why would any one want to keep a republican in the white house. If you have a flat tire do you fix it by putting on another flat tire? need i say more
Posted by: unchanged on Sep 6, 2008 at 12:40 AM
still voting OBAMA 2008
Posted by: Insulted. on Sep 6, 2008 at 12:24 AM
I'm not insulting her at all for being a woman. Awesome job twisting my words though Rose! I said that I was insulted because one of McCain's very OBVIOUS reasons for picking her was that she's a woman. How is she a fine woman? I don't know her, so I just go by the FACTS, not by a fireside chat I've had with her. She's under investigation for several things and has only been in office for a year and a half. She was FOR the bridge to nowhere act, which cost $3 dollars, and once it became a nation embarrassment, she claimed she was against it, but didnt return the money. and the whole 'putting a jet on ebay thing' yeah she 'put the jet on ebay' but it didnt sell! they had to sell it elsewhere and Alaska LOST money from it. So yeah, I can absolutely see why she's such a great choice.
Posted by: Oh Please on Sep 5, 2008 at 10:50 PM
There was nothing to the "assassination plot" of Obama. They were not arrested at the Democratic convention, but in the early morning hours on Aug 24 in a Dodge pickup that was weaving on the highway. They were meth heads. Don't be dramatic. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26398461/
Posted by: tiffany on Sep 5, 2008 at 09:47 PM
FYI Rose, Obama only supports late term abortion if the mothers life is at risk which set him apart from his fellow democrats. www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/04/obama-on-late-abortion-me_n_110884.html - 213k - Cached - Similar pages
Posted by: Tifffany on Sep 5, 2008 at 09:38 PM
Rose,Governor Palin was the mayor of a city of 9000 people and she left it in debt. She has 20 months in the office of governor and is already on investigation for abuse of power. That is why I don't like her. I also do not like her because her speech was condescending and snide. She insulted people like community organizers and everyday citizens. This country is divided and I do not believe that someone trying to lead this country should make remarks to divide it further. Whoever wins the presidency will have a hard time uniting us no matter who it is. As far as racism goes when we had the primary here they polled people asking them how much of a part racism played in there choice and 55% said it played a big part in who they voted for so racism is an issue when it comes to Obama. It may not be for you but there are still plenty of bigots out there where it does play a part in there decisions.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 5, 2008 at 06:19 PM
That was only a small group of people. The majority of liberals are not dangerous in any way. I'm a liberal. I have two kids a house and a husband. In fact my whole family are liberal and as far as I know none of them have went out causing any problems. What about the man that was arrested at the democratic convention for an attempt at assasinating Obama? I would say that is more dangerous than some college kids getting out of hand. He was a republican by the way.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 5, 2008 at 05:51 PM
These anonymous comments suggesting that those who do not support Obama are racists & have other wild misconceptions about his religious preferences, etc are out of touch. I, for one, am not voting for him because he doesn't support most of what I find important. Don't play the race card...it really is possible that people simply don't support his policies & platform. I would vote for him in a second if he believed in anything substantial & represented my vote. For all the women who are insulted over McCain's choice of Palin & say it's only to try to get women & Clinton votes...I find *you* insulting. Why? Because you, yourself, are downing Palin & think someone couldn't possibly pick her because she was simply a good choice. You insult her, as a woman, by doing this. Why not her? She is a fine choice & has more executive experience than the Dems choice for President. Cling to whatever theories you dream up, but Palin is a strong woman & I'm proud of her!
Posted by: Voter on Sep 5, 2008 at 04:16 PM
To Anon 9/5 @ 2:17, If liberals are looking for a more tranquil night, why did those rabid, liberal activists show their butts during McCain's speech on national tv? The extreme left wing looks down right dangerous to me.
Posted by: Insulted on Sep 5, 2008 at 09:45 AM
McCain's choice was completely made to 'shake things up' and get the Clinton voters, and frankly, I'm insulted as a woman that he thinks he can sway me by just picking a woman to be his VP. News flash people, there has been a female VP candidate before, it's not like he did something incredible. And I trust Capito about as much as I would Jeffrey Dahmer. side note-- BARACK OBAMA IS A CHRISTIAN AND IS JUST AS MUCH WHITE AS HE IS BLACK.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 5, 2008 at 01:45 AM
Obama is not a muslim. For all you racist out there his mother is white.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 5, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Okay Rose. Have a lovely weekend.
Posted by: Mike on Sep 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Boy McCains vice president sure is sexy. Even her voice is sexy. I think I could be in love with our next vice president.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:34 PM
To anonymous 2:55AM: Prove that Sarah Palin said that & give credible references.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Tiffany (and anybody else who is interested in homosexual partners being protected, legally)...go here for more info: http://www.rainbowlaw.com/
Posted by: Rose on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:08 PM
Tiffany: My point was, and still remains, that there are abundant resources available for anyone who wants to get ahead & put the time, work, & dedication into getting a degree. As far as wills go, any American citizen can put anybody in their will. You do not have to be related, it can be a friend or anyone else. Also, there is no law that states that you must buy a house, car, etc only with your spouse. Two people can be co-applicants for a loan. If they buy their large purchases jointly, the person left behind would still be the owner. There are many laws & legal resources so that anyone, despite sexual orientation, can lead a combined life. Even two heterosexual friends could do this. An attorney could help out anyone in that situation. Regarding the abortion issue...something that has been so fiercely protected, legally, for such a long time takes a while to chip away at and get rid of completely. And this won't happen if we elect pro-abortion candidates. Have a good evening.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:08 PM
Tiffany, first of all, I was not disrespectful of you. I was not talking about you, personally, but the points you directed to me. How could I? I have no idea who you are, what you have accomplished, etc. I was speaking in general terms addressing points that you brought up, yourself. I apologize if you took my replies to your points personally. I certainly do not consider you an imbecile at all. I did not say that it wasn't hard to go to school, have jobs, and have children...did I? Of course it is hard. It's hard just to go to college without any of the other responsibilities. However, as I am sure you know, nothing worth having is easy. It takes hard work. Getting ahead IS difficult and that is why I said that people must WANT to get ahead. No one can make them want more for themselves & then go get it. Don't you agree? Again, I was not directing that at you, personally.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 4, 2008 at 04:29 AM
Rose, abortion is still legal. There is a ban on partial birth abortion which may surprise you that I support. I have been respectful to you. There is no need for you to be so negative and hateful towards me. The college situation is much harder than you realize.I don't My husband and I both have JOBS. He works 60 hours a week and I work 40. I own my own home and have two children so do not speak to me like I am some imbecile who wants to sit around and have the government do everything for me. I respect yours and everyone elses opinion. I have not once insulted you or spoke to you in the tone that you just took with me. I know from my personal experiences that it is very difficult to go to college if you and your spouse work AND you have children. Homosexuals cannot put there partners in there wills. It is null and void and any existing family member can come in and take what the partner was promised.That is a fact.Choose to ignore it if you wish to do so.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 4, 2008 at 02:55 AM
Sara Palin said quote "Terrorism against jews is Gods judgement". Sound like someone who needs to be vice president.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 4, 2008 at 02:17 AM
A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future. Leonard Bernstein Most liberals in-fact stay away from name calling.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 3, 2008 at 11:57 PM
To Tiffany (continued): 4. My husband & I put OURSELVES through college & have worked hard to get where we are today. There are MORE resources available for anyone who really wants to go to college & better themselves than there were when we went a few years ago. Their are scholarships (Promise Scholarship anyone?), student loans, work study, and how about a JOB? My husband and I worked 2 & 3 jobs to get through college. Jobs in restaurants, etc are available for those who want to work. Again, those who are not familiar with these resources need to seek out the information or someone who can look for them (like a librarian, social worker, friend, neighbor, pastor, etc.). My moral beliefs have nothing to do with those who choose not to accomplish their goals. Republicans are not stopping anyone from going to college or bettering themselves. But you cannot make someone WANT to better themselves. That has to come from within. Have a good night!
Posted by: Rose on Sep 3, 2008 at 11:54 PM
To Tiffany & company: 1. If it would make you feel better to read about partial birth abortion from another source, here you go: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Intact dilation and extraction It's still the same thing whether Coulter supports the site or not. 2. You say the Republicans have not outlawed abortion? Then explain the the Partial Birth Abortion BAN Act. I pointed that out earlier, you conveniently forgot. 3. Homosexuals, like heterosexuals, can put anyone they want in their wills & make anyone their medical power of attorneys & beneficiaries of their life insurance. They have existing forms for all of that. Perhaps those who don't understand how should consult with legal services.
Posted by: Becky on Sep 3, 2008 at 11:47 PM
To Tiffany Black, I can't believe your narrow mindedness about Gover Palin. This is the closes thing we have to getting someone who is middle class to help out our failing county. She not a "Blue blood" from New York or Washington. She's a wife, mother has been a union worker. I'm sorry but this is what we need she sure beats Hillary Clinton riding on her husbands coat tails. I think that everyone needs to take a more open minded view of the best thing that happened to our country
Posted by: To Rose on Sep 3, 2008 at 04:22 PM
I read the article about late term abortion. First of all it is on a site that Ann Coulter endorses and is a regular participant in. You should not believe anything on that website. Secondly there was not much detail in the article.
Posted by: Tiffany Black on Sep 3, 2008 at 03:30 PM
This is to Rose also. You said this country has gotten so bad because everyone is putting morals aside and that you put morals before money. Well what about the people who have no chance in this country anymore? The price of college has skyrocketed along with your everyday living expenses. There are people out there that cannot make it anymore. They can't afford to send their children to school or send them to the doctor. Do YOUR morals not cover them or is it only the straight and rich people that you have empathy for? Lack of morals are not destroying this country. It is a lack of ability for people to better themselves because of the policies that the Bush administration and republicans have created. This woman that McCain has picked is a sorry attempt to get women voters. It is a political strategy and nothing more. He is doing anything it takes to win, for his party. Not what he feels is best for the country.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 3, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Rose, republicans had control over the senate,the supreme court, and had a republican president yet they did not outlaw abortion. The reason is not because they couldn't but because they do not want to. They will lose all the people like you,who vote for them based on issues like abortion and they need your vote badly. If you wish to be angry about these issues fine, but you are angry at the wrong political party. Be angry at your party for being such hypocrits and using your beliefs to get reelected. As far as gay rights go Rose, it isn't going to affect you a bit if John an Bob down the street are aloud to put each other in there wills, or put each other on insurance. By disagreeing with that you are saying that you have more rights then someone else, and that is ridiculous.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 3, 2008 at 12:43 PM
To 9:18 AM: It stinks when someone who doesn't agree with you makes valid points & backs them up with evidence. And, predictably, this is how most liberals react...name-calling & insults. Grow up. To 9:30 AM: It makes no difference what religion someone practices, wrong is wrong. I know of very few religions that condone the liberal side of the moral issues. McCain's (or Obama's for that matter) personal religious beliefs are none of my concern. Where they stand on the issues is whats important to me, as a voter. Obama does not have a platform I agree with. What is so difficult about that? Why would I vote for someone I don't agree with? Why is it so hard to believe that someone may not find the same things important that you do? Hmm?
Posted by: Pablo on Sep 3, 2008 at 09:31 AM
Of course Capito (daughter of our former governor, the ex-con) would support Palin. She voted for everything Geo. W. Bush wanted her to (and we see where that got us) and now she will vote for everything that McCain wants her to. We need a representive who votes for whats right and not because she is told to from the Republican leadership.
Posted by: to Rose on Sep 3, 2008 at 09:30 AM
Pk here's a little food for thought the bible says God created heaven and earth and man in his own image so answer this for me who created God. And when you can answer this ask yourself how many times the bible has been rewritten and then wonder if just maybe someone forgot to install a few pages in an attempt to condense it or maybe they lost some of it while wondering through the desert maybe that is how thr Koran came along, and which is more important Old or New testament seen a post by a Republican where he stated old testament didn't apply anymore since New testament was written and with this kind of thinking if someone writes a new new testament then the one we read today will be outdated and will not apply.Also just remember many people changed religons but you only get to vote every 4 yrs so what happens if McCain decides he wants to be Muslum or Catholic in between elections and his beliefs vary from yours do you get to take back your vote I dont think so
Posted by: To Rose on Sep 3, 2008 at 09:18 AM
They sucked out your brain upon delivery, and it looks like you can work a keyboard. I think all the snake handling, beer drinkin, wife beatin, bible thumpin, redneck racist right-wing supporters of Bush need to get some news outside of Rush, Hannity, Glen Beck, and Bill 'O. You guys never post my comments, I know it's mean, but God do I mean it.
Posted by: Ryan on Sep 3, 2008 at 06:52 AM
Right wing republican or baby killing, gay rights activist muslim. You Choose, haha..........lets all move to Canada. Mexicans are taking us over anyway.
Posted by: Lori on Sep 2, 2008 at 11:21 PM
One more reason to vote Obama/Biden. In a town hall in FL, Joe Biden responded to a question from someone in the audience. The question was, Would their administration hold the people in the Bush administration accountable for their actions. Biden said that Sen. Levin and another senator were gathing information and issuing sapenas and that if there was evidence of wrong doing, they would recommend prosecution, not to go on a political witch hunt, but to uphold the rule of law. Mucasey had said earlier that there would be no prosecution of ex attourney general Gonzalas. I recommend you all try to watch C-SPAN. You get to see alot more than just the snippets in the cable news. Ohio guy, the republicans were in control of congress from 1994-2006. What do you think John McCain means when he says, "We (republicans) came to congress to change Washington, but Washington changed us." Power corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely Time for change....OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
Posted by: Rose on Sep 2, 2008 at 10:16 PM
In response to the poster at 9:28PM: Obama absolutely supported late term abortion. You need to read up on what that means. It means exactly what I described. Go here to read about it: http://bp0.blogger.com/_t5ENiB5M-4k/SCunOVXGpRI/AAAAAAAAABg/s3sfNklpDps/s1600-h/partial_birth_abortion.jpg And it was legal until George Bush's term & President Bush signed the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act! So you are right, the legality of late term & partial birth abortions has been knocked down drastically, but only during GW's term. Read up on Gonzales v. Carhart. Not only that, Obama is against infants born alive who actually SURVIVE an abortion to get medical attention! Don't believe me? Go read this article: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18647 It's disgusting, he's disgusting, and I won't vote for him. PERIOD!
Posted by: Rose on Sep 2, 2008 at 09:54 PM
Tiffany, you said, "People need to stop voting on moral issues and religion." Just...wow! It is my belief that you get what you give. That is not just a Christian belief, many people find that to be a truth worldwide. The problems with this country now are mostly because we have been putting morals aside. Think about that. Morals have gotten looser and looser and to what benefit? I am not closing my mind off to better people because I support those who match what I believe to be important. That makes them the best choice for me. I refuse to place money above my morals. But that's just me.
Posted by: To Anon at 1 20 pm on Sep 2, 2008 at 09:34 PM
Obama did not say that.
Posted by: To Ohio Guy on Sep 2, 2008 at 09:31 PM
Bush had already created a deficit within the first two years. Democrats had not taken control yet.
Posted by: To Rose on Sep 2, 2008 at 09:28 PM
Obama does not condone delivering a perfectly healthy baby and then sucking out there brains. That is illegal anywhere. Also we have had a republican for eight years and abortion is still legal so that should tell you something. It's always going to be. Homosexuals being married is a state issue not a national one. It has nothing to do with who is president. My question to you is and everyone else in WV is why do you vote democratic for senators and govs and republican for president?
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 2, 2008 at 09:24 PM
Rose, if you want to vote for someone based on religion fine. You may close your mind off to better people though by doing so.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 2, 2008 at 08:12 PM
I am astonished by this pick by McCain. What was he thinking? His only argument against Obama has been inexperience, and the occasional shot at his so called celebrity status (as if that has anything to do with politics). Now he chooses some no-name Govenor with less experience than Obama??? What? Does he honestly think that we women are going to vote for him because he chose a woman? I, for one, look at the issues. I don't care whether they are male, female, black, white, purple? If they have good morals and a good plan to help our country out of this horrible time, then they have my vote! OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
Posted by: Ohio educate yourself on Sep 2, 2008 at 07:30 PM
When Clinton was in office he pass the balanced budget amendment. George Bush has overidden that amendment with the war in Iraq. Sheeeesh the GOP is so dumb it does not remember what it is doing!
Posted by: Buckeye on Sep 2, 2008 at 07:09 PM
To J, I realized you had no response to the McCain/Bush trickle down economic plan. You know, a real issue unlike our petty debate over whether less than two years as GOVERNOR or being mayor of a town about the size of Gallipolis constitutes quality experience. Abraham Lincoln hadn't accomplished anything before his presidency, but he went in on the right side of the issues of the day, and in the end, that's what matters.
Posted by: Ohio Girl on Sep 2, 2008 at 06:56 PM
Ohio Guy you need to open your eyes! Democrats just recently got control back...AFTER we were already headed into this wonderful economic system headed up by Bush. Forget that anyway, I would have voted for McCain had he not caved into conservative radio politics and actually decided on his own VP choice. He insulted my intelligence by thinking he could get female votes by picking a young female running mate. He really dropped the ball on this one. Obama made a way better choice. Maybe Palin will rethink sex education being taught in the school system, since she obviously isn't going to rethink her career choice and stay home to keep an eye on her family. I really don't think I need to hear her talk about family values.
Posted by: sicko on Sep 2, 2008 at 05:26 PM
I would like to go out with her and Hillary and get them drunk and have them catfight in a small swimming pool filled with mud.
Posted by: Fran on Sep 2, 2008 at 04:04 PM
TO ANON AT 1:20pm. Would you please tell me where you heard Obama's comments. I was watching CNN News last night when a reporter asked him what he thought of the situation. Obama's only comment was that it was a private family matter and that everyone should respect Palin's family. I heard NOTHING about what you indicated.
Posted by: wvgal on Sep 2, 2008 at 03:31 PM
I'm glad Ohio guy that he hasn't found the bathrooms yet, that tells me that he has not been there long enough to become corrupt yet..
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 2, 2008 at 03:22 PM
I wonder if she is still applauding..
Posted by: RoaneCo. on Sep 2, 2008 at 03:19 PM
This is the comment from Obama that I have seen in the media.... "I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits," Obama stated after attending a Labor Day picnic here. "People's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories." So tell me aNOn on Sep 2, 2008 at 01:20 PM just where did you read the comment you posted on here? I want to know where it came from and read it for myself.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 2, 2008 at 01:46 PM
To Rose, Obama is not perfect but he also is not George Bush. I can understand voting for McCain if you are extremely wealthy because that is the only group of people he will help. I don't know about you but I am very tired of not being able to get health insurance for my 7 year old or my self. I'm also sick of the rising cost of groceries, gas, etc. People need to stop voting on moral issues and religion. I respect your opinion rose, I just think that people should put all of that aside. We are all different. There are more to people than religion.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 2, 2008 at 01:40 PM
To Anonymous 12am: It really doesn't matter if politics are about religion or not. That's real easy to say in theory, but more difficult to practice. Why? Because, as a Christian (or a member of ANY religion for that matter), people are generally not going to support a political candidate who backs laws & changes incompatible with their beliefs. If you truly believe what you practice (no matter what religion that is), then you would want to see those values represented (i.e. abortion, homosexual issues, etc). How could a Christian, in good conscience, support a candidate who thinks it's ok to allow a viable baby to be delivered breech to its head, only to have a hole punched in the base of its skull & its brain sucked out? Sorry, I can't vote for someone who would allow that to occur. Most religions (not just Christianity) do not condone things like that. So why would we want to elect someone who would allow it? It's hypocritical.
Posted by: aNOn on Sep 2, 2008 at 01:20 PM
In response to the news about Bristol Palin, Obama said, "I wouldn't want my daughter to be stuck with a baby just bacause she made a mistake." Just think about exactly what that means.
Posted by: Sorry on Sep 2, 2008 at 01:19 PM
I think Anonymous should do a little reading. Seperation of church and state is not found anywhere in any of the amendments. I wish it was written in our amendents in black and white, but it isn't.
Posted by: ohio guy on Sep 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I just wish that all the American people will open their eyes and realize what's going on. People, look who has control of congress, Democrats. When Bill Clinton was President, we had a Republican congress. We did not have a natonal deficit after he left office until the Democrats took over Congress. When Democrats were elected control of Congress my mother gave me some good advice, save your money! I have been a registered Democrat my whole life until now. I was brought up with the belief that Democrats are for the working men and woman and now that I'm older and a bit more wiser, I believe this not to be true. Elect John McCain for President, at least he has the knowledge of how to protect this wonderful land we call America. Obama has'nt been in Cogress long enough to even find the bathrooms. Vote McCain
Posted by: Wrong pick on Sep 2, 2008 at 12:46 PM
McCain should have picked Cindy because she is right it is time to take off the Republican hat and put on the American hat.And that is just what I'm going to do he just lost my vote because there is no way I would vote for him with the outside chance that he will die and we would be stuck with this unexperenced woman to lead the most powerful country in the world i have voted Rep in every election but my family can not et over this stupid pick so we will be voting Obama and maybe next time the choices will be better if there is a next time
Posted by: Lori on Sep 2, 2008 at 09:41 AM
To from Mason county: I have no problem with the teenage pregnancy of Sarah Palin's daughter. I pray that things work out for her. My problem is with the Republican attitude of holier than thou. I don't have a problem with abstinance programs to compliment sex uducation. I have a problem with ABSTINANCE ONLY programs. I don't have a problem with anti-abortion, I have a problem with not having a safety net for young mothers who become pregnant to help them fulfill their dreams. Ms. Palins daughter will be fine. She has a family of means to help her. But what about the poor who find themselves in this situation. They need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps according to the Republican platform. No help for them. I myself like the Palins. They have a beautiful family. If she were running for president, I might conscider voting for her. But she is not. I see her as a yes person to McBush. Hypocracy is the issue.
Posted by: OHIO on Sep 2, 2008 at 07:10 AM
McCAIN,WILL BE GETTING MY FAMILYS VOTE.HAPPY DAY
Posted by: Kathy on Sep 2, 2008 at 06:48 AM
I dont think ANY candidates family especially their children should be targeted by anyone during these dirty campaigns And I mean ANY of them because theyre all so dirty I feel sorry for the young lady being in the midst of all this However if it was Obamas or Bidens daughter you can bet that McCain & Palin would be making a HUGE deal out of it. Rove would have it plastered all over the place & never let up It's always OK for Repubs & right winger Bible thumper zealots to do anything BUT God help the rest of us mere mortals Even though we can be Christians,love God & country unless we're part of "them" then by gosh we're all bound straight for hell! Were "against family" "Against God" "Against the USA" to hear them tell it. Got news for them I love God & country every bit as much as they do & have as many family values as they SO if tables were turned dont think THEY wouldnt use this against anyone else But they spin it as being OK when they do it SICKENING
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 2, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Politics are not about religion. There is an amendment, in case some of you have forgotten, called seperation between church and state. If we voted on people only on there religion then we would be no different than countries in the middle east.People should realize that religion and politics do not mix well. Everyone should also keep in mind. McCain picked this woman, who would be in charge of this country should anything happen to him, in a 15 minute interview. You really think he's stable?
Posted by: geez on Sep 1, 2008 at 10:38 PM
did everyone see where one of mccains aides wa s on cnn this evening?he could not give any straight answers about palins experince.hr seemed a little no he was a lot flustered.......go Obama
Posted by: woohoo on Sep 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I love how Obama responded about Palins 17 year old daughter being pregnant.very thoughtful and respectable answer.you go obana......OBAMA 2008
Posted by: James on Sep 1, 2008 at 10:01 PM
The thing that I find funny about McCain is that all these commericals he has on tv trashs Obama but doesn't say what he's got planned for our country. Maybe its because he has no idea what he's doing. I think i'll stick with Obama
Posted by: Rose on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:35 PM
To Tiffany: I am supporting McCain/Palin because they support views that align more closely to Christianity than Obama. Christians are not perfect, I don't know who told you that, but you are misinformed. Church is not a hotel for saints, it's a hospital for sinners. That's the whole point of Jesus Christ dying for us. But I digress... McCain's first wife said that the car accident had nothing to do with their divorce. She said, "He's a good guy," and "We are still good friends. He is the best man for President." McCain is far from perfect, but I don't know anyone who is, do you? Is Obama? I doubt it very serious. The problem is that Obama doesn't support laws & views that I find most important. Period. Therefore, he does not get my vote.
Posted by: J on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Buckeye, why do you refuse to admit she is the governor of a state? Is it too hard to admit? She works in the executive branch of government, giving her the edge on all three men in the race. That's the pesky fact you keep forgetting (or ignoring). I realize that someone like you would vote for Obama if he admitted to gutting children, because he has a D beside his name. That's cool. Just be honest about it. He has no accomplishments. NAME ONE. McCain/Palin 08.
Posted by: From Mason County on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:26 PM
To Lori - in reference to your comment about Sarah Palin's daughter: I guess in your mind, that's a reason not to vote for McCain/Palin. So if Obama gets elected and one of his daughters gets pregnant as a teenager, you'll be demanding Obama's resignation, right? Or are only politicians from the opposite party disqualifed from office if an unwed daughter becomes pregnant?
Posted by: Joe on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:21 PM
If Obama wasnt half black he would not be where he is now. All the guilt from the past coming out. Makes people feel less guilty if they vote for Obama. What else could it be? Maybe his socialist views. Change? If your car wasnt running right would you trade it in for a Yugo?
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:20 PM
McCain only picked this woman to try and get Clinton supporters. That is obvious. She is on investigation for abusing her power not to mention she couldn't even stop her 17 year old from getting pregnant. McCain has only met her once and has only spoke to her THIS WEEK! Wake up people. The man is only doing things to get you to vote for him. He is a liar AND he is crazy. He doesn't mean anything he says. When are you so called christians actaully going to do what is right and not what your so called leaders brainwash you to do? Obama has worked his way up from nothing to be where he is. He deserves some respect for that.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:13 PM
Rose, so you are saying that you are supporting Mccain because he is a christian? He divorced his first wife because she was disfigured in a car accident. Sound very Christian? Then paid her to keep quiet about it. He has lied repeatedly about Obama.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 1, 2008 at 07:39 PM
MCCAIN HAS MY VOTE ALL THE WAY!!!!
Posted by: to dem on Sep 1, 2008 at 05:45 PM
So what makes this choice from McCain change your mind is it because this woman may become pres before Hillary is that all your worried about waiting till 2012 wil not help Hillary is done she will never be pres see Sarah probably will and she will screw it up so much that come next election there will not be a woman on the ticket the only chance Hillary had was for Obama to win serve 8 yrs then her run and win but that wont happen now that McCain has the Hillary votes McCain will win then die and Shara will screw it up and Obama will win next election so the earliest Hillary can expect to get in office is 12 yrs and more than likely 16 by that time she will be to old and feeble to get elected so she is but an after thought as far as political career is concerned and her and Bill knows it
Posted by: Lori on Sep 1, 2008 at 02:00 PM
You people who support McCain are hypocrits. Look at his life. Cheated on his first wife. I guess thats under the blood as he professes to be christian. He is hot tempered, goes on cursing rants. He blows with the politacal wind. And did you see, Sara Palin's 17 year old daughter is pregnant. Everything Rev. Wright said is true. You all would know if you watched PBS. The govt. did give syphulis to black men, they did experiment with LSD as mind control. Put yourselves in Rev. Wrights shoes. You go off to war as a marine in vietnam, and you come home to the same racist society. I am WHITE, but I try to be informed. Hillary supporters, if the shoe were on the other foot, how would you convince me, an Obama supporter to vote for Hillary, when I am against the dynasty of BUSH/CLINTON/BUSH/CLINTON in the white house. This election is about change. I could have easily voted for Ron Paul even though I don't agree with alot of his policies just to send a message of change.
Posted by: Ron on Sep 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Palin is a clone of Peggy Hill. McCain is a clone of Hank. "Dammit, Bobby!"
Posted by: Rose on Sep 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM
To USa: Palin has more experience than Obama, so I'm completely FINE if she ended up being president. I'd rather see her be president than Obama. And to HEY...what God wants IS a priority for me as I am a Christian and that is what I'm going to support. Period. If you don't like it, TOUGH! Majority rules in this country & if a majority of people support God's views, then the minority will have to get over it. I put God before anything else.
Posted by: Duh! on Sep 1, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Excuse me,true she is not running for President but She will be President if the old man kicks the bucket,which is highly likely given his 4 bouts and on going fight with cancer,his poor health in general and heart condition.No way will I chance a person to be the supreme leader of the free world after being Mayor to a town of 6,000 and less than 2 years in the Governors office.V.P. is not a place to learn what to do about world wide decisions,it's position as number 2 in power requires a person of experience in affairs of national and world importance.Why did McCain go against his own idea of experience is the #1 issue in a President's qualifications? I will not take the chance of her being President no matter how much I like McCain.Obama with his pick of Biden as V.P. has one more vote now.
Posted by: im a republican on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:59 AM
i agree with bob 100%. thats why im voting for bob barr. he may not win but at least i know i used my privledge to vote and it's not for either set of idiots!!!!!we are sooo screwed it's not funny. getoverit you need to get over it. you must be very wealthy if you are for mccain not all of are rich and dont need to worry about who is elected. mccain said,"if you make less than 5 million per year you are middle class." well, what's your annual income? i bet it's under 5 million. and obama is not any better. yeah, GOD help us.neither canidate deserve the job!mitt romney should be the canidate.and to hey, what god wants is for people like you to hit your knees and pray for forgiveness. you must be a idiot to say something like that. that is against him.IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Frank on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:52 AM
If Obamanation prevails our economy will make the double digit inflation, interest rates and unemployment of the Carter administration look like boom times. Get ready to bend over and take it up the tail pipe. The possibility of becoming wealthy in America will be taken away. We will be a socialist nation. The government already wants us to be dependent on them. We need to get gov't out of our lives. WV will always be a democrat state. We may vote for a republican pres. but in state politics dem all the way! Thank God for Mississippi or we would be last in everything. Keep voting them dems in WV. What if we had a Sarah Palin in WV. How much corruption do you think she could expose? WV voters are just a bunch of sheep being led to the Democratic slaughter. Keep drinking that RED Kool Aid WV. Mountaineers are always in bondage.(not free)
Posted by: Brian on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:12 AM
Sarah Palin is second on the ticket and has just about as much experience as Obama, who is the Presidential nominee. McCain didn't need to pick someone to hold his hand, like the Obama/Biden combo. I really like the personality of Sarah Palin and feel that she is a real American, unlike Ebola, err, Obama.
Posted by: getoverit on Sep 1, 2008 at 04:48 AM
Get over it.Hilly Poo is finished.And I couldn't be more thrilled.John McCain 08,Happy Day!!!
Posted by: dave on Sep 1, 2008 at 02:54 AM
You swing voters kill me on what little it takes to change your mind. If mccain dies his hair blonde will you all vote for Obama? Im still voting republican because Palin is not running for president. She has a very strong character and loves her country. Women, men, black, white, whatever. In the end, just like when they picked george washington for our first president, just pick the canidate that you believe is the most american. This is your duty wether you like Obama or McCain.
Posted by: BOB on Sep 1, 2008 at 01:30 AM
GOD HELP US I THINK THIS IS A SIGN OF THE END OF THE WORLD ITS A NO WIN SITUATION 4 MORE YEARS OF HELL ON EARTH NO MATTER WHO WINS NOW I THINK. RIP AMERICA!!!
Posted by: Dem on Sep 1, 2008 at 12:30 AM
I am a democrat. Hillary should be our candidate but that isn't to be. So my vote went to McCain even though we can't afford another 4 yrs but I wasn't going to vote for Obama. Then McCain does this? You've got to be kidding. We don't have much of a choice here now do we? I just hope we can survive until 2012, God help us.
Posted by: Buckeye on Aug 31, 2008 at 11:52 PM
To J, it's funny how when I state something it's a democratic talking point because it's not possible that I may be able to research myself, right? However, when you state something, it's a pesky fact. In addition, the fact or talking point about her gaining executive experience in her capacity as a mayor of a town less than half the size of Ironton or Ashland is insulting to our country's political process. Keep shouting your talking points. I see the bigger picture and see how McCain contradicted his notion of experience as a vital component of candidacy while Obama did the same with bringing change to Washington (Biden). However, I still side with Obama on more of the issues, especially economic ones. I am tired of getting peed on by the trickle down economic system that the new McCain has come to endorse. I miss the McCain that used to be against the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and called out the religious right for its intolerance.
Posted by: HEY on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM
"What God wants" should NOT be in issue! We must pass laws to give EVEYONE freedom, regardless of their beliefs. That's what the CONSTITUTION says! If you don't like it, leave this country, you closed-minded fools!
Posted by: From Mason County on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:21 PM
I like Sarah Palin. She wasn't picked just because she was a woman. She was picked in large part because she's not afraid to take on corruption, even if it involves people in her own party. She is also a social conservative. Evangelicals or "values voters" have made the difference in the outcome of the last couple of elections, and they are going to be critical this November as well. Palin is pro-life, and she practices what she preaches. Obama, on the other hand, supports partial birth abortion.
Posted by: graydon on Aug 31, 2008 at 07:27 PM
isn't it somethimg, a women was picked to run.it dosen't matter she hasn't any qualifcations just that she is a she.it dosen't matter that she's against free people she's part of the crowd that feels if your thoughts are different you are wrong or unamerican.this is another example of mccain's bad judgement,man these people in charge is scary.
Posted by: Missy on Aug 31, 2008 at 06:13 PM
No way would I ever vote for Obama.Me and the rest of my family are voting McCain.
Posted by: I agree thind on Aug 31, 2008 at 06:04 PM
would you have voted for McCain on 9/12 knowing what you know now - lets see it has been 7 years and Bin Laden is still a free man while thousands of young men and women have went to war for what should have been left to the people of Iraq! GWB has done nothing but went after Suddam because he insulted my dad - that is so fifth grade. I continue to believe that neither candidate is qualified but at least with Joe Biden, Obama has made his ticket the one I will vote for. Palin who on the other hand is anti this and that she has already been under investigation for abuse of power not once but multiple times. Come on GOP educate yourselves and not vote so dang blindly. She is another act now and lets clean up later person as well. The Grand Ole Party is a joke and I said joke it should be Glaring Over People who really need reform. If these two win the dollar just like under any other republican will be worth about what the peso is to the US dollar - which means nothing - GOP Scandal Kings
Posted by: USA on Aug 31, 2008 at 03:19 PM
If McCain wins and then drops dead from cancer or heart attack in weeks/months,THINK this person becomes the leader of the most powerful nation on earth,can she based on experience do it??Why not Rice or someone else able to do the job?He has swung my vote to the other side simply because the one thing he cried"Experience" he has tossed aside in favor of win-at -all-cost and not USA first!
Posted by: soooo on Aug 31, 2008 at 01:44 PM
Now that mccain has taken 15 minutes of talking to palin to decide that she will make a good vp.I took 15 seconds to decide to vote for Obama.GO OBAMA 08
Posted by: To Elaine on Aug 31, 2008 at 01:02 PM
No, Palin is no Hillary Clinton...THANK GOD! She is a much better woman than Hillary and will do a much better job as VP! I'm excited that someone was finally picked that represent that which is right. This woman is very proud of McCain/Palin and I believe they will create change. VOTE FOR MCCAIN/PALIN!
Posted by: to hillary dems on Aug 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Well you all can really cry now because your sister in pant suits will not be the first woman pres now since Mc Cain will get your votes because you dont like Obama that will open the door for Sarah to be first woman pres and this is really the end of Hillary's career see is done now and thank God.You never saw this coming but her only hope is Obama win then her in 8 yrs but that wont happen more than likely McCain win finish first term re-elected die in second term Sarah take over then be elected for 2 more terms by that time Hillary wil have finally decided that it will never happen and give up aint it sweet
Posted by: PPP on Aug 31, 2008 at 12:50 PM
I AGREE WITH, I AGREE ON AUG 31 AT 9:04 ABOUT THE ELECTION BEING ON 9-1201 I DON'T FORGET EITHER AT THE FAMILIES WHO LOST LOVED ONES ON THAT DAY. HOW WOULD WE VOTE IF WE LOST SOMEONE THAT DAY. THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU VOTE.
Posted by: J on Aug 31, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Just for the Obamaites - What legislation or accomplishment has Obama achieved. Now, this is not a trick question. Being something (like a community organizer, first nominated black candidate of a major party, senator) does not equal accomplishment. Accomplishment: ending gov't waste, reform, or, if you're from the left, increasing abortion availability, ending the war, increasing taxes. So far, all he has given is a lot of empty rhetoric - please someone list his accomplishments.
Posted by: J on Aug 31, 2008 at 11:22 AM
First off, Buckeye, working as a community organizer for ACORN(which has been linked to voter fraud and embezzlement) does not equal being in an executive position - mayor, and what you all seem to forget about, Governor of Alaska (pesky facts keep getting in the way of talking points for you Dems). To hick, unlike Obama, Palin has done more than talk about taking on the oil companies. She has required larger royalties from the companies for the residents of her state. Read the facts: http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ . Obama is an empty suit that couldn't string a sentence together without a teleprompter. So hick, instead of telling me to grow some, maybe you should take the time to read (I know WV is lagging in that area, so I do empathize).McCain/ Palin 08!!!! By the way, Obama's huge bounce (should usually be 15% to 20% coming out of the convention) did not happen - McCain/Palin 08!!!
Posted by: I agree on Aug 31, 2008 at 09:04 AM
I agree with Matt.If the election were held on 9/12/01 how many would be voting for Obama.Some just choose to forget,I haven't..McCain 08!!!!!!!
Posted by: Elaine on Aug 31, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Shelly Moore Capito does not speak for me or for many other women who are insulted by Sen. McCain's pick. Does he think we will jump for joy because he picked a woman, any woman as VP? Palin is no Hilary Clinton. What concerns me even more is John McCain's judgement. He talked to her for 15 minutes and decided she would be qualified to be president if he became unable? That's crazy. That's an insult. That's how low he will go to win. And Capito thinks that's great? Very disturbing. Neither one of them will get my vote.
Posted by: Jo on Aug 31, 2008 at 12:32 AM
I agree with TRUTH... votes are based on morals. Morals are found in the Holy Bible. You know the book that talks about God the person this country was founded on.
Posted by: deb on Aug 30, 2008 at 11:19 PM
OBAMA 08
Posted by: thind on Aug 30, 2008 at 10:29 PM
We need new blood, new spirit, new hand, new energy like Sarah Palin for America in Washington in the time to come to rebuild a stronger and better America. She is a person with good credit and true reputation of anti-abortion, anti-same sex marriage, anti-corruption in executive experience as mayor and governor of Alaska.
Posted by: Republican vs Democrats on Aug 30, 2008 at 09:24 PM
What have republicans or democrats done for America should of been the question - absolutley nothing but sold out to lobbyist. They care nothing about the citizen unless it is an election year. Dubba has sold us out in his policies and the democratic congress is scared of the media. At least while democrats are leading the clowns this country prospers and the countrys coffers grow - under a republican the wealthier get wealthier and the that is pretty evident you self centered party known as republicans. Way to go Shelly Moore money in my pocket Capito - endorse someone and follow the R line.
Posted by: hick on Aug 30, 2008 at 09:18 PM
J at least we here in WV see what McCain is doing. He has not presented an interest in this woman and had only met her once. Hmmm let's see the hicks have figured out what the rest of the idiots in this nation haven't - McCain will do whatever it takes to be king oil cartel leader! J don't judge people you do not know as we are a heck of a lot better educated then what seems to be the ignorant comment you left. Think about it J we are not sexist nor racist just informed - grow some and vote as well.
Posted by: Buckeye on Aug 30, 2008 at 08:42 PM
To J: What you stated is technically correct, but there is more to the comparison. Don't forget about the eighties when Obama left his corporate job in NY to become a community organizer for the poor in Chicago for about minimum wage. Most people would consider that a high form of public service. I think that trumps serving as a councilperson and mayor in a town with a population smaller than 10,000. Also, having executive experience can be a poor indicator when it comes to choosing a president (see G.W.Bush 2001-2009).
Posted by: Mary on Aug 30, 2008 at 08:33 PM
Hi, we are about to have two hurricanes in the Gulf Of Mexico please pray for the Gulf Coast. I was raised in WV and live here, and we may be coming to WV soon to out run the hurricane.
Posted by: To J on Aug 30, 2008 at 08:30 PM
I agree w/your politics but abhor your sweeping generalizations of the people of my state. You have no idea what you are talking about & I doubt VERY seriously WV will vote for Obama. Don't be insulting, you don't do our party any justice acting like that.
Posted by: Rob on Aug 30, 2008 at 08:30 PM
After much thought about a lot of the comments I read here concerning the Presidential race, I do believe if the people of this country want to make a statement then don't vote on election day. I am not talking about a few hundred here and there or a million or so, I mean everybody in the country.....stay home and do not vote, if that wouldn't send a message to Washington that we as a nation are sick and tired of it all then nothing will. All the griping and complaining and name calling in the world don't mean a thing, action does.
Posted by: To Jess on Aug 30, 2008 at 08:28 PM
Actually, Jess, partial birth abortion (one of the most heinous forms of abortion) was banned while Bush was in office. So he did help with that issue. Do you think that God will bless this country if we do not stand up for what is right? God will turn his back on us and we will fall. Wake up.
Posted by: J on Aug 30, 2008 at 06:35 PM
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/
Posted by: J on Aug 30, 2008 at 05:57 PM
Based on the comments, WV is not only racist, but also sexist. No wonder the world thinks of you all as a bunch of hicks. Palin has more experience than Obama (public service since 1992, vs Obama's 1997). She has actually accomplished things, unlike Obama. I was not going to vote this fall, but now, it's Mccain/Palin !!!!
Posted by: Jess on Aug 30, 2008 at 05:29 PM
I understand being against abortion and gay marriage i do believe gays should be able to visit their loved ones in the hospital and things like that but marriage is under god so i don't agree with that. But even though i disagree with those subjects im not going to vote based on that. Alot of people voted for bush because he was anti-abortion but did he change it? No he didn't and neither will mccain so voting based on that is silly. If your going to throw god into it isn't it a sin to judge others? Isn't a sin a sin? Unless you are sin free don't throw god up you aren't perfect no one is you worry about your fate and let others worry about theirs..
Posted by: Proud Conservative Woman on Aug 30, 2008 at 05:18 PM
Sarah Palin is a far cry from a trophy wife. She is a smart, tough, conservative woman who did not have to ride on the coat tails of her husband to get to where she is. While she may not have years & years of experience, she has accomplished more in her time in office than Mr. Obama. As for the comment "why would anyone vote for a Republican?"... Why don't you tell us how that Democratic congress is working out for you? Exactly what have they accomplished? McCain/Palin will bring the real change we need!
Posted by: Rose on Aug 30, 2008 at 04:14 PM
There is no way I would ever vote for Obama. How could anyone support someone who continued to support & attend a church that was so anti-American? Remember Rev. Wright? Good grief! Obama supports many things that I just cannot condone...period. McCain is an American hero & was a POW for years & survived. That is what our country needs. And his choice of Sarah Palin is awesome! I was going to vote for McCain, anyway, but I'm super excited now! Why shouldn't this woman be a VP running mate? What makes Obama so much more "experienced?" Whatever. Palin is awesome and she embraces the same values that most WVians do, if they will just open their eyes and realize it. The Dem party is not what it was 50 years ago. They do not support God's beliefs. My family is better off than we were before GW got in & we cannot forget we have a liberal Congress & a Democratic governor. Your issues are not all about GW. GO MCCAIN!
Posted by: Matt on Aug 30, 2008 at 02:48 PM
I sure hope people wake up before November. I know Dems think Obama is the savior of this country... but all you have to do is read some of his speeches... and read the books of people who he bases his beliefs on. Obama hates America. So does his wife. The Democratic convention was all about just how evil this country is... and how it's horrible that we expect folks to fend for themselves a little... and how G.W. is Lucifer. When you go to the voting booth.. ask yourself a very important question. Which party is going to keep you safer? Dems want you to believe we are in more danger now... but when was the last terror attack???? 2001. Haven't had one since Bush started whacking around the terrorists in the Middle East and Afghanistan. YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON YOUR SECURITY. Look at what Clinton did... under his watch, we were hit on our soil.. and all around the world multiple times, and he did nothing. Be smart when you vote.
Posted by: Good on Aug 30, 2008 at 01:51 PM
I think this was an excellent choice for McCain. I seen an interview with Palin months ago and was so impressed with her views- she definately caught my attention. I didn't have strong feelings for McCain but now he's definately got my vote.
Posted by: GOOD CHOICE on Aug 30, 2008 at 01:40 PM
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CHOICE. I FEEL BEHIND EVERY GOOD MAN IS A GREAT WOMEN. I FEEL THE WHITE HOUSE HAS ALWAY BEEN RUN BY WOMEN ANYWAY. JUST NOT BY A TITLE
Posted by: ... on Aug 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Okay people, let's get something straight: It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to pass laws to ban abortion and gay marriage. If they are against the morals of your religious group, then fine, don't have anything to do with them. But NEVER assume that you have the right to impede on the freedom of others. Basing the laws of this country off of the beliefs of one religion is wrong and it goes against everything America is supposed to represent. Liberty and justice for all? Not if McCain is elected.
Posted by: gee on Aug 30, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Cant you mccain supporters see what kind of shape this country is in?are you people that blind?we can not stand another round of republicans in power we just cant.......OBAMA 08
Posted by: nonono on Aug 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM
My family WILL vote for Obama,this country can not stand another round of someone like bush.
Posted by: LOL on Aug 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM
WTH was he thinking? Oh, yeah...senility. Seriously, he only met her ONCE!!!
Posted by: RoaneCo. on Aug 30, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Oh, so now we have to answer to God for the way we vote. I guess I will split hell wide open because I will not vote for McBush. By the way, just what has Bush done about abortion and gay rights during his two terms TRUTH?
Posted by: ha on Aug 30, 2008 at 09:34 AM
Jess you should take your own advice know what you are talking about before you post Obama will raise taxes for everyone whether they are rich or poor..how do you thnk he plans on paying for health care and the world tax...get a clue
Posted by: Buckeye on Aug 30, 2008 at 08:43 AM
To Truth: According to your logic, all who voted for Bush will have to answer to God for all of the dead children as a result of invading Iraq. God will have to answer to himself as well, because he prematurely aborts more babies (many times without the mother even knowing it) than all of the doctors combined and has been doing it in all countries for centuries.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 30, 2008 at 08:40 AM
i am 100% dem. but this year just thinking of voteing for obama makes me sick he ant for america and if he is voted in it be the down far for america i wish people open there eyes and i not for a woman vp but after hearing her speak i for her and Mccain.they are they only ones who fight for america people and for america.
Posted by: White woman voter on Aug 30, 2008 at 07:00 AM
Wow. This choice really underscores just how shallow McCain really is. She was picked last minute in an attempt to upstage Obama's historic speech. Looks like somebody is more interested in making the news than putting country first. Say hello to tropy wife #3!
Posted by: TRUTH on Aug 29, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I will never vote for a baby killing gay rights person. You can judge me for saying that but in the end God will judge all of us and those of you who vote for Obama will have to answer to God for your mistake.
Posted by: Jess on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:47 PM
to LEIGHANN on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:23 PM are you one of those who goes off of the commercials yes obama wants to raise taxes for those who make 150,000 plus a year and i think they can afford it the republicans give those people tax breaks and we middle class get no breaks....Mccain's choice is jus him assuming that those who wanted hillary are stupid enough to vote for him jus because h did pick a woman. Its an insult to all those who supported her. I would suggest to all before they post on here to actually read both candidates views and goals. Don't listen to commercials then come on here n post your uneducated opinion,
Posted by: Dennis on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Obama. She's been govenor of Alaska for 18 months. Execellant choice Mr. McCain. I wonder how the Obama crowd felt about the GOP picking a Minority. To the best of my knowledge Obama has no executive experience. I'm not a republican but I'll be voting that way in November. Obama just says what everyone wants to hear. Hillary should have been the Democratic candidate for president. Obama doesn't care about WV. I rememeber when Bill Clinton came to Huntington. Do you Think you will see Obama in WV.
Posted by: Rob on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Please don't get this wrong, I am not knocking his choice in any way. I think with his health and age she may be a good choice because she may end up as President and I think she would be a good one. But let's get back on topic, even seals and walruses applaud before big crowds and such. I hope some day we can oust Capito.
Posted by: Miller on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Cheap blow the only reason McCain took a woman vice president is to get the Clinton supporters. WHY would anyone consider voting for a Republican after the horrible past 8 years. McCain has been right there with Bush so he will do everything just like George, think about it people!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:12 PM
who wants Clinton winners any way
Posted by: frank on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:04 PM
hottest veep ever
Posted by: Roger on Aug 29, 2008 at 09:58 PM
McCain made the smart, correct choice for VP. A true outsider not tied to special groups (Biden's Son) Someone who has not spen their entire potitical life running for the highest office (Obama). The Democratic party overlooked/ignored the wishes of 18 million of us and we will remember that on election day. This former Hillary Democrat is now a Democrat for McCain. NObama 08.
Posted by: Annie on Aug 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM
Someone needs to drug test McCain. He had to have been on drugs to make such a stupid decision. Picking a woman, just because she is a woman, was stupid.
Posted by: WOW! on Aug 29, 2008 at 07:26 PM
Ok. I was slightly for McCain because of the experience issue. The Obama gave a speach that put the ball back in his court. Eight years of Bush has made the country bankrupt! Now McCain picks someone with NO experience. What? Why? I'll vote Obama. No real good choice again. . .
Posted by: Concerned on Aug 29, 2008 at 06:57 PM
I do not know what Senator Mc Cain was thinking.He should have picked Capito or Ridge or maybe Liberman. Is the governor a figure- head to Mc Cain's friends? Does he think all 18 million will vote for because she is a mother? What happens if he gets ill and she has to take over- what do we really know about her as our President? We know she has spent a week in Iraq but so has so many other politicans. aI think this is get back from John Mc Cain since they did not want his buddies.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 29, 2008 at 06:54 PM
MCcain will put this country back on it's feet he knows if you dont move with the times it move on without you i think it is wonderful he picked a woman for vp its time a woman was put in the white house men have always been in the white house now we get things moving we can look ahead for great things to happen besides this great country could'nt run with out us women mccain knows what he is doing and i may say he's doing it very well
Posted by: Sarah on Aug 29, 2008 at 06:02 PM
McCain voted NO on legislation that would have made sure women have equal pay with men. That should make it pretty clear that picking a woman to be his VP is insincere and an obvious publicity stunt.
Posted by: Trent on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:58 PM
John McCain just handed this election to Obama and I am so happy.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:54 PM
Well, I'm not overly enthusiastic about any of the options to be honest. I am a registered democrat, and tend to go towards the left with some aspects; however, I am pro NRA...pro life...and etc. I guess more of an independent registered as a democrat. I applaude Obama's move/or desire for change, but I don't agree with his VP choice. I do understand why he did it though. Afterall, that eliminated some doubt of foreign policy experience. I also don't believe Biden is a sign of change. His been in office for so long, and would be considered an insider. Not what the public wants! As for McCain, I liked him better when he was more in the middle, but to the right when it comes to social issues. He has aligned himself too much with Bush that it may end up hurting him. I applaud his VP choice. While she doesn't have the necessary experience, but neither does Obama. She holds the values of republicans, but isn't afraid of change. I wish there were more options. At this point, I'm undecided.
Posted by: Joe on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:52 PM
This is obviously a ploy to pick up the people who were voting for Clinton because of her sex.....the bad thing part is that many voters are shallow enough to vote for McCain for this reason only, does nobody see the state that our country is in.
Posted by: Mom on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:51 PM
What a great choice,McCain has my vote.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:24 PM
He just wants to steal the Hilary fans from Obama. Doesn't she realize he's just using her to gain votes. I'm still voting for Obama, at least he understands that as president you must put the opinions of ALL of this country's many citizens before your own.
Posted by: LEIGHANN on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:23 PM
LET'S FACE IT, IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD FOR US EITHER WAY. OBAMA HATES THE WHITE RACE (I HAVE READ HIS BOOK AND HE COMPLAINS AND SAYS HATE REMARKS THROUGHOUT THE BOOK). OBAMA WANTS TO RAISE TAXES. OBAMA IS FOR EVERYTHING THAT FRIGHTENS THE HELL OUT OF ME AS A WHITE WOMAN. MCCAIN IS EQUALLY AS FRIGHTENING. HUMMMM....MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST ADMIT JUST AS THE BIBLE PREDICTS..IT IS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER REGARDLESS OF WHO WE PLACE IN OFFICE. AMERICA NEEDS TO GET BACK TO GOD AND TRUST HIM TO LEAD US. IF WE DO NOT WE ARE HEADED FOR DOOM, POVERTY AND DISPAIR.
Posted by: Corella on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:22 PM
I do not care who McCain picks for his VP, female or not, she is NOT a Democrat. I have supported Hilary Clinton from the beginning and have no interest in what a Female Republican has to say. I am sticking with Obama/Biden through it all. A Republican is a Republican, and a Democrat is a Democrat. No matter their sex.
Posted by: Pat on Aug 29, 2008 at 04:49 PM
What a fresh choice! I am a Clinton voter. I am going to be voting for McCain this time.
Posted by: John on Aug 29, 2008 at 04:40 PM
Obama will have this election in the bag now . This was the obvious choice for McCain to try and get some of the Clinton minions . Obama "08"
Posted by: Kim on Aug 29, 2008 at 04:37 PM
Excellent choice!! McCain definitely gets my vote!
Posted by: Luther on Aug 29, 2008 at 04:17 PM
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