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WASHINGTON D.C. (WSAZ) -- West Virginia Congresswoman Shelley Moore Capito applauded the selection of a female to the Republican presidential ticket Friday. Senator John McCain, the presumptive nominee for president for the Republican Party, picked Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, as his running mate.

"As a woman, this is an incredibly exciting day to be involved in the political process," said Shelley Moore Capito, also West Virginia's lone female member of Congress. "In Gov. Sarah Palin we have the opportunity to elect a noted reformer, a mother and a popular governor from a well-known energy state to be our nation's next vice president."

Capito pointed out the historic significance of Palin's selection. She's the first female ever to be chosen for the GOP presidential ticket.

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Posted by: Rose on Sep 28, 2008 at 02:16 AM
Tiffany - I hope you are ok...but if you aren't, know that I am very sorry for your loss & you'll be in my thoughts & prayers.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 24, 2008 at 01:59 PM
OK - I'll answer for Rose. I believe I can given all the examples shown below. ROSE'S ARGUMENT: Okay, again, Tiffany, you are not interpreting my comments accurately. I never used the race card either, I just allude to his "Muslin" roots, which cannot be denied (per R. Limbaugh (aka rehabbed druggie and my hero)). I've been doing some researchin' and I found that Obama is in Michigan this week. ACTUAL FACT: Obama is campaigning in Michigan (a battleground state) this week. More of Rose's Facts: B. HUSSEIN Obama is campaigning in Michigan. Surely, Tiffany, you are aware (as I am because I am a researcher) that Michigan has the largest concentration Muslim community in our nation in Detroit. Coincidence? I think not. How can you deny the obvious Tiffany? P.S. (ACTUAL FACT): Limbaugh did claim that Obama was not black. Limbaugh says Obama's family was from Kenya, a country in Africa with a majority Muslim community. Not accurate, but doesn't matter. Limbaugh = God. Obama = antichrist.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 23, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Please read my comment again about Ayers. I did not say that he couldn't be a terrorist. I only said that he must not be to much of a threat or he would be in jail or out of this country. It doesn't matter anyway considering Obama does not have much of a "tie" to this man. He lived in the same neighborhood as him and went to his house once. That is not a relationship I would be concerned about. I would be more concerned about a presidents family having ties to the royal family in Saudia Arabia. That's just my opinion.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 23, 2008 at 03:07 PM
I have not used "the race card". I have never said that you aren't voting for him because he is black. I have suggested that west virginians don't trust him because of that. The reason I say this is because 55%of people in WV admitted that race played a key role in who they voted for and some of them were on camera when they said it. How is stating an absolute fact "playing the race card". This country is racist, so it obviously would be harder for a black man to win the president. I don't know why that is so hard for you to understand. If you deny racism then Rose you really are living in a dream world. As far McCains medical history goes, yes I would let people look through my medical history if I had a job as stressful as being the president. It wouldn't bother me a bit. Apparently he has something he does not want people to see. No, that's not a proven fact but one can assume that there would have to be a reason to give people a limited time to look at his records.
Posted by: charles carroll on Sep 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM
I worked under Arch Moore (governor)for the state road , we had a thing called the flower fund it was manditory to contribute . At that time we all knew it was realy campaign slush fund our money was going for . Shelly moore capito trained by arch moore would call sarah palin a good choice I guess shes just another palin-toligist who goes along with the party on everything.
Posted by: TO ROSE on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Rose, you really are full of yourself. You never addressed why there was a limited amount of time to review the medical records. If you can't at least see the problem there, the entirety of your arguments can easily be dismissed. You also revert to the faux argument of "Muslim background" when you are backed into a corner. I wish I could say it was interesting to follow your logical conclusions; however, your patterns are simply juvenile.
Posted by: ROSE (PART 4) on Sep 21, 2008 at 06:09 PM
McCain did NOT say that Spain was an adversary OR that it was in Latin America. This was an ASSUMPTION derived from the liberals after an interview. Don't believe me? Show me where I can find the QUOTE that he said Spain was an adversary & was located in Latin America. You won't be able to do it because it didn't happen. However, I can show you something really hilarious! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws Obama has visited all 57 states with only one more left to go! Yay him!
Posted by: ROSE (PART 3) on Sep 21, 2008 at 06:08 PM
Since you enjoy the race card so much, I will go ahead and point out that your assumption that someone living in this country could not possibly be a terrorist or commit bombings is a bit questionable. One does not have to live in a middle eastern country to be a terrorist. Remember Oklahoma City? Those people weren't middle easterns. Would you not classify them as terrorists? Ayers & his wife got off on a technicality. He is an unapologetic terrorist bomber who threw a party for Obama in his home. There are plenty of ties to him & Obama that are being hidden. If Obama had done business with a relative of someone who had yet to commit a crime, I am reasonable enough to realize that is not important. But attending a party in your honor at the home of someone who has already committed the crimes & is unrepentant about it is a whole lot different. If you don't understand that, then that is your own problem.
Posted by: ROSE (PART 1) on Sep 21, 2008 at 06:07 PM
You know, Tiffany, this is getting ridiculous...I agree with you. You continue to bring up issues I have already addressed First you accuse Palin of making remarks about Jews, I correct you, now you jump on her church even though I provided a link to comments from a well-respected Rabbi who said there is NO comparison between Obama supporting ideologies of an Anti-American Rev. Wright for TWENTY YEARS & Palin happening to be in the audience when a GUEST SPEAKER made a comment that was controversial. It's as if you don't read anything I write. Someone who has been cancer-free for nearly 8 years most usually is in the clear, as the report said. As far as John McCain & his medical records? I would black out parts that were irrelevant, as well. Would you want the public to know about every hemmorhoid & personal discussion with your personal doctor from your entire life?
Posted by: to wsaz on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:37 PM
where are parts 1 3 and 4 of roses posts why are some posts not put through? i jus had one not put through in another story and no where and in no way did i use foul language. Im tired of my posts not being out through for no reason please explain why this happens who ever approves these comments?
Posted by: Rose (Over & Out) on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:38 PM
I will say that, for the most part, you have been fun to converse with and I appreciate your civility. Although I do not agree with you much about anything, apparently, I do respect you as a person. I would encourage you to find the whole story when you hear something about someone or read a quote that is standing alone. I think you probably do that already, as I do, because we both want to know the whole story. It is also very apparent that we are both biased towards who we support & there will be no convincing either of us to vote for the other candidate. With that said, I wish you nothing but the best & prayers will be with your pregnancy & upcoming birth. Take care!
Posted by: Rose (Part 5) on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:36 PM
This discussion has been going on nearly a month now & is going no where. I have went out of my way to provide references & proof for anything I say & even attempt to give you references showing that some of the things you have said are not true (like Palin making the Jewish statement, McCain & the Spain issue, etc). These were all just blatant untruths. I have been accused of not being able to research information, yet I'm the one who seems to be doing all the research & providing evidence in this discussion.
Posted by: Rose (Part 2) on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:33 PM
There are many things in a medical record that are no one's business. Common sense dicatates that if you had a melanoma removed in 2000 and you are still here with the living in 2008 w/no signs of chemo & treatments (hair loss, weight loss, frequent hospitalizations & surgeries) then you are doing OK. You don't need every page of the man's medical records to figure that out. It is only your opinion that his judgement is poor due to him picking Palin. There is a huge amount of people out there that disagree with you. The crisis on Wall Street that you said McCain blamed on Obama? They BOTH have blamed each other & exchanged jabs. That is politics & campaigning during a close election. About Ayers? Ayers is, indeed, a professor. He also has ADMITTED to bombings & regrets he couldn't do more.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Despite your genetics, the odds of dying increase as you get older. Life insurance costs more as you age, right? It is LAUGHABLE that Rose tries to argue otherwise.
Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Rose:The argument against Obama about him not serving his country really makes you look idiotic. John Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam. Did you vote for him? Did you think he was fit to run this country? John Kerry was also a decorated war hero. It sounds ridiculous the way you talk about it. Obama has done good things for his country. Instead of becoming a high price trial lawyer he worked a community organizer. Before you make fun of him for that like Sara Palin did you should recognize what it is. The executive experience is just a word republicans are using because they know she doesn't have enough experience. They have to say things like she has more executive experience so that people like you will fall for it, and you are. You are brainwashed by politicians. If you would trust that woman during a financial crisis and two wars, you HAVE to be brainwashed. It's idiotic. She just received her passport this year. Yet somehow she has more foreign policy experience than Obama/Biden
Posted by: t on Sep 20, 2008 at 12:44 AM
For a time, Mr. Obama was on the board with Mr. Ayers, though he no longer has a formal association with the group. At the debate, he described Mr. Ayers as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," but "not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis." Mr. Obama said he was being unjustly linked to "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old." Theres that dangerous relationship Rose. OOOOOH Scary. Come on now. It's not like he was giving him billions of dollars for the last ten years. Really Rose, stop denying the obvious. It's perfectly okay to admit your president is a money hungry corrupt politician.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 20, 2008 at 12:40 AM
He let the press review his records alright. He gave them a brief amount of time and half of the papers were blacked out. He is not in any kind of shape to be president. His judgment on choosing Sara Palin is proof enough that he HAS NO JUDGMENT. He blamed the crisis on wall street on Obama. First Obama had no experience now he is responsible for the crumbling of Americas economy? They are desperate right now. The republicans are on the verge of losing. I think your remarks about Obama are laughable. You think the relationship between Bush and the Saudi Arabians is laughable? These are known to be some of the most dangerous most corrupt people in the world. The man you are referring to Rose, is not a terrorist. Is he living in this country, yes. He is a professor if I'm not mistaken, if it's the man I think your talking about. So, really, come on. Is he living in Pakistan, or Afghanistan? Is he Osama Bin Ladens ken folk? No he isn't so quit believing everything the television tells you
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 20, 2008 at 12:32 AM
OKAY! This has gotten hilarious. ROSE George bush still has connections with the Saudi Royal Family. I don't care what you say if that was Obama who had connections with them you would say he was "dangerous". YOU have no sense of reality. john McCain this last week has completely embarrassed himself. He said Spain was an adversary of the US when they are an ali. he also said they were located in Latin America. He is not fit to be president. Sara Palin has lied constantly since the convention and will continue to do so. Take a look into her church and her pastor. He supports the "pray gay away" concept. Which is just as outrageous as the things Rev. WRight was preaching about. Her church had a guest speaker who spoke about terrorism being Gods judgement on jews. What kind of a church even has a guest speaker like that? What was Sara Palins reaction to it. She was at the service. Did she leave? No I'm sure she stayed and listened. Why is that not a problem for you Rose?
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:21 PM
A group of doctors numbering 2000 have issued a demand for free and open access to McCain's health records. Does McCain have something to hide? Or does this give us a peek into how he will run the White House if he makes it there? The overwhelmingly secretive aura surrounding the White House for the past 8 years must be dissolved. My government is "of the people, for the people, and by the people." Since it's my government, I have a right to know all that occurs in the White House. The only exception is when there is a TRUE compromising of National Security. However, secrecy in the name of National Security seems to be thrown around rather excessively and carelessly lately.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:16 PM
Did you notice that Rose's source stated that the "press" looked over the medical records? Only one of the reporters (with their infinite background in Medical Record analysis) was a Dr., CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Dr. Gupta stated "I have never reviewed medical records quite the way I did today. At promptly 7:30 a.m. PT, we were taken to a conference room and handed three stacks of paper, nearly 1,200 papers in all and told we had exactly three hours to review them. I am still not sure I understand why there was so little time given to review so many papers."(CNN 5/23/08 Gupta's on AC360) More..."McCain to limit reporters' access to his medical records. Only a few hand-picked journalists covering the campaign will be allowed to view the senator's health documents."(LA TIMES 5/23/08) Most did surmise that McCain was in good health. If McCain wins, how can it be disputed that he will run the White House very true to the phrase coined at the Dem Convention **McCain = more of the same** ???
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 04:58 PM
"McCain has addressed concerns about his age and past health concerns, stating in 2005 that his health was "excellent". He has been treated for a type of skin cancer called melanoma, and an operation in 2000 for that condition left a noticeable mark on the left side of his face. McCain's prognosis appears favorable, according to independent experts, especially because he has already survived without a recurrence for more than seven years. In May 2008, McCain's campaign let the press review his medical records, and he was described as appearing cancer-free, having a strong heart and in general good health." - Meet The Press, NY Times, & USA Today
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 19, 2008 at 03:36 PM
Genetics the new cure for cancer?... I know Obama could pass on before his term is over as well. If that where to happen i can say i have faith that Biden could take over with great success. As far as serving our country so are thousands of other men and women and he poses a bill to increase veterans educational benefits. They are fighting in this war created on false pretenses and he don't think they have the right to extra benefits. Not everyone can find a rich spouse to carry us along n life.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:47 PM
Jess (continued)...Could he die soon, despite his mother's genetic contribution to his longevity? Sure he could. Obama could too. People in their 40s & 50s die all the time, unfortunately. Truly, I find it a bit tacky that people are already planning for the possibility of McCain's death. Of course, with what McCain went through while serving OUR COUNTRY (years of torture so brutal his hair turned white), I'm sure it did take a toll on his health. Obama has never served our country, so I guess he does have that health advantage.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:46 PM
Jess, I did not say that you claimed she was running for president. I say what I mean & if I wanted to say that I would have said, "Jess, you are wrong, she is not running for President." I was simply implying that Palin is being scrutinized more so than Obama & she isn't even the one running for President. They are both considered "young," politically. She has executive experience & he has zero (even though he is running for Chief Executive of the US). Any executive experience is better than none. Could she end up being the president? Sure she could. Any VP could. The reference to McCain's mother was exactly as you took it. His mother is still alive, therefore it is possible that he very well might have the same genetics as his mother.
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 19, 2008 at 01:38 PM
I didnt say she was running for president did i? you really should stop twisting my words around to try and make me look bad cause anyone who reads this can see what your doing and you are making a fool of yourself. In the event of McCains death she will be pres. though and that is why i asked you if you thought she was ready if you can honestly say you think she is then fine what ever floats your boat. I personally do not think she has nearly enough exp. to be even VP much less pres. tell me exactly what McCains MOTHER has to do with this? are you trying to say cause shes alive that McCain cant die from health issues? Please explain you comment there you "lol" but really im missing what the funny part was. It seems when you are presented with a logical question you want to try and make those asking it look as if they are stupid.For someone who planned and prepared for her future you dont seem to be thinking to far ahead as far and Palin goes.
Posted by: TO TIFFANY on Sep 19, 2008 at 01:08 PM
While I applaud your efforts at an intellectual argument with Ms. Rose, I believe your attempts will be futile. I see where you have acknowledged errors in your judgment or your words when brought to your attention. I do not see Ms. Rose reciprocating. When you are obviously visiting the final vestiges of reality in attempts to persuade others to your view, you resort to personal attacks or attacks that have no bearing in logical arguments. This is what Rose has done, along with her husband Will O'Really. It's also a practice of Fox News. Like what (I believe) was said earlier, Republicans have no personal critical thinking ability, all is copied from their brethren.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 01:03 PM
How interesting... http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/09/19/Report_Legislators_son_at_center_of_Palin_hack_talk_1.html
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 19, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Rose: You refuse to engage because I am asking that you face reality. Republicans and Reality have an extremely adversarial relationship. I have found a common link with those who are Pro-Palin and Anti-Obama: Both sides "cling" to superficialities like your suppositions about Obama (no underlying factual, issue-based, points). Those who favor Palin continually offer comments that "she is like me, she brings energy to our party". Very hard to disprove or prove comments like this.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 19, 2008 at 12:43 PM
TO ROSE: You doing research for a living is a very, very scary concept.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:34 AM
Tiffany, you should be outraged that a president would be more concerned about their popularity than taking the correct & appropriate actions to protect their country. Your analysis of Clinton "asking the American people how they felt about him as president" is a bit simplistic & naive.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:31 AM
Jess, the Smoking Gun document that is provided only talks about about terrorism threats from the 1990s when CLINTON was president. There were no new warnings contained in that document. This document only rehashes the fact that Bin Laden was a threat to the U.S. If it had warned of jets being hijacked & crashed into the World Trade Center & the Pentagon, then I would have to agree with you. Bush's administration was doing just as much as Clinton did, if not more, in the short 8 months he had been in office. Bin Laden could have been long gone if Clinton had acted in the 1990s appropriately. We endured numerous attacks during the Clinton administration. Bush is a human being, not a psychic. 9/11 was not predicted by Tenet. He had a feeling "something" was going to happen, but gave no further details or direction. I think we can agree that we all wished that it could have been predicted & thwarted.
Posted by: Palin on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:13 AM
On Palin...she is running for Vice President, not President. Any one of us might not be around in 4 years. Maybe McCain should ask his MOTHER (who is still alive) if Palin is a good choice, lol! At any rate, I find nothing wrong with Palin as a VP candidate. She has more executive experience than Obama (even though you might not feel that being Governor of Alaska is sufficient or mayor of a town). There are no requirements to be an international traveler to be VP, is there? One would have to have lots of money & time to be an international traveler...which would make them out of touch with the "regular people," right? I think that if McCain were to pass away during his term that she would be just fine. I believe she is the element of change that this country needs. Many people have served in high offices with abundant foreign travel & did a poor job. This is not an accurate predictor of how someone will perform their duties in office.
Posted by: Jess on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:55 AM
Jess...1) There is a huge difference between having friends you don't agree with & associating with someone who is unapologetic for bombings he committed! I would even question your character if you were friends with an admitted bomber. We should care about this when electing a President. 2) There is a huge difference between being friends w/your pastor, who happens to have some radical anti-American opinions & sitting for 20 yrs listening to various ideologies that are questionable. One would have to be seriously off their rocker to continue to listen to someone for 20 yrs if they didn't agree with them. Again, this tells me he either supported Wright's views or he lacks the backbone to stand up for his beliefs & change churches. Either way? I don't want him to be my President.
Posted by: Quotes Out of Context on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:43 AM
Here is the entire quote, in context. I really despise when people take bits of quotes & twist them around:*********** Bush insisted he was not looking to his legacy. "I'm not running for the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm just trying to be a guy to use the influence of the United States to move the process along," he said. But he added that "I hope that history will say that this is a guy who clearly saw the world the way it is. I can assure you that al-Qaida, Hamas and Hizbullah don't think about the comforts of life. They are driven. And the fundamental challenge facing this world is, well, countries like the United States, be prepared to continue to stay in the lead." Concluding the conversation, the president observed, "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office. But one of [those legacies] has got to be, he clearly saw the threat and he did something about it." -Jerusalem Post 5/12/08
Posted by: Rose on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Tiffany, your comparison to Bush/Arbusto Oil & Ayers is laughable. Obama has associations w/a man who has admitted to bombings & wished he had done more. His crimes had already occurred & Obama still associated with him repeatedly. Arbusto Energy was founded in 1976. Salem bin Laden is one of at least 54 children fathered by Mohammed bin Laden. Osama bin Laden was 18-19 yrs old in 1976 & was attending school. He had yet to commit any acts of terrorism. Salem bin Laden's interest of a whopping 5% was invested by James R. Bath, an American. Bush even sold Arbusto BEFORE the terrorism began. Now that we have the facts, I think you can even say that it would be a stretch to link someone to terrorism when 1) The act is yet to occur & 2) The association is with a half-sibling (one of 53 half siblings!). That would be like me having a problem with Obama doing business with an Ayers half-sibling before Ayers even committed crimes. That was a serious reach, but nice try, Tiffany!
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 19, 2008 at 04:09 AM
Since your talking about Obama having ties to a "terrorist" what about the Bushs ties to the Saudi Royal family. They have given them billions of dollars of the last ten years. What was it, 10 of the 13 hijackers were Saudi Arabian. Bush has ties to Bin Ladens family.In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden's brother, Salem bin Laden, founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas. That's a fact. So, I really don't think that Ayers should be an issue for you. If you can vote for Bush who obviously has an alliance with some of the most corrupt and wealthy people in the world, why are you worried about Ayers?
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:12 AM
"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008 Yep, that George W. Bush is a great president who responded with great tenacity and force in the days after 9/11. he bombed a country of people living in huts and has since forgotten about that country and moved on to another. He really knows his stuff. HAIL TO THE CHIEF! "And so the fact that they purchased the machine meant somebody had to make the machine. And when somebody makes a machine, it means there's jobs at the machine-making place." --George W. Bush, Mesa, Arizona, May 27, 2008
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:03 AM
OH MY LORD!!! The President asked the American people how they felt about him as a president!!! This is absurd and OUTRAGEOUS! As an American I am OUTRAGED!
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 18, 2008 at 10:03 PM
OK here are two more links and no im not calling you a terrorist or anything they are just links. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282.html Ok now after reading those can you sit there and tell me 9/11 was Clinton's fault? If you can you are so far beyond brainwashed. Bush and his administration knew and had ample warning and time to stop that attack and did nothing. They didn't beef up security they sat there and let it happen.
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 18, 2008 at 09:55 PM
3rd this is my opinion and a question of sorts. Do you think Palin is read to be President? McCain is not in the greatest of health and its a good possibility that he will not live 4 years. Do you think someone who was mayor of a very small town and, someone who was only Governor for 2 years, someone who has only been outta the country once and that was recently. How is she going to be able to handle forien affairs and terrorist? I could go into her personal life but i will not. (even though if the tables were turned and barack those "problems" im 10000% sure McCain would have used them n a bashing commercial by now.)
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 18, 2008 at 09:50 PM
1st. I did not say you said he was a Muslim, near the bottom it talks about the time when he failed to place his hand on his heart. So dont put words in my mouth.2nd. I dont care who barack has associated with i have racist, anti-gay, and Rep. friends and i am none of the above. they dont make me who i am nor do i make them who they are.. im sure his pastor did not preach in every sermon about America and his thoughts on it. Maybe alot including obama are and were offended by this but respected his right to have an opinion and choose to focus on the things they did like and agree on and im sure that over powered the bad.Too be continued...
Posted by: Rose on Sep 18, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Bill Clinton actually conducted polls after each act of terrorism to see if the public blamed him & how it affected his popularity. He had a PR-driven approach to terrorism & only did the minimum he had to do after each attack to keep himself popular with the public. He was *not* tough on terrorism. Each of these attacks could be viewed as an act of war against the U.S. (especially the World Trade Center bombing). He worried too much about his popularity rather than protecting the U.S. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzhjODk1ODg4M2NiODU4Yzc3YWE1OTA1MDNmYWQ5M2Y=
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 18, 2008 at 07:33 PM
I read your comment wrong. It looked like you were telling her that you paid more taxes than her in a year. I don't care what Obamas pastor has to say. I don't blame any black person in this country for being angry. As for Obama listening to him, I have plenty of close friends that I don't agree with about things. That doesn't mean that i won't agree with them on other issues and that i wouldn't confide in them if I needed to. That's just the way I see it. I supported Hillary Clinton, voted for her in the primary. But, i didn't agree with everything she said about Obama. The Rev Wright controversy was one of them. Personally I just feel the republcan party is too corrupt to trust anymore. I think they have their own agenda and the American people don't know and probably never will know what it is. I think Obama would take this country in a better direction.
Posted by: THE FACTS PART 1 on Sep 18, 2008 at 04:20 PM
"Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says black should not sing "God Bless America" but "God d*mn America." The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last TWENTY YEARS at the Trinity United Church of Christ..." http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004284040_pastor15.html He only chose to distance himself after he began to seek the office of President. And who could blame him? But at that point, it's a bit too late. It shows he was only willing to distance himself from Wright when it made him look bad. He should have done it on his own a long time ago. Even Hillary Clinton doesn't approve of Obama's lengthy association w/Rev. Wright: "He would not have been my pastor," Clinton said. "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend." http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_558930.html
Posted by: Rose on Sep 18, 2008 at 04:05 PM
I voted for Bill Clinton...twice! I was a democrat in the 1990s. I even attended a rally at Marshall University & saw Hillary Clinton speak. Bill Clinton's impeachment was his own fault. He lied under oath & got caught. Blaming the Republicans would be like blaming the police for arresting a burglar or blaming a judge for holding someone accountable for perjury. Bill Clinton made his bed & he had to sleep in it.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 18, 2008 at 03:53 PM
Tiffany...what comments, exactly, are you referring to that I made to Jeannie that were so inappropriate? I only addressed her one time & that was to point out that I don't engage with rude people. She was rude & I am unapologetic for saying so. And I will not correspond with her again because she has nothing of substance to say. If that is a problem for you, perhaps you are just like her. As far as being paranoid, I certainly am not. The President of the United States is a pretty big responsibility & I find that character & past associations should be a major factor when considering who to vote for on election day. I find it to be one of *the* most important factors. If you choose to look the other way or discount the facts then that is your right. I have researched both candidates & there are things about McCain I don't care for, either. But, in the end, there are two choices & Obama is the most questionable, in my opinion. Add it all up & McCain beats Obama, hands down.
Posted by: THE FACTS PART 3 on Sep 18, 2008 at 03:37 PM
Concerning his ties to Ayers, the unrepentant bomber & terrorist. Strangely, CAC archives refused to be opened to show just how involved he was with him.: http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/8/22/obama-needs-to-explain-his-ties-to-william-ayers.html Ayers even had a party in his home for Obama & has donated money to his campaign.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 18, 2008 at 04:09 AM
Nevermind I don't apologize for saying your a redneck. I wrote that before i read your comment to Jeannie.
Posted by: The Clinton Years on Sep 18, 2008 at 01:24 AM
ROSE: During a time when republicans should have been supporting Bill Clinton in fighting terrorism they were working against him. They were impeaching him for an affair. The president may have done a better job fighting terrorism had the republicans backed him instead of fighting against him.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 18, 2008 at 01:08 AM
Just to correct some of the remarks about terrorism being Clintons fault here is his antiterrorism bill that the republicans would not follow up on. Measures taken by the Clinton administration to thwart international terrorism and bin Laden's network were historic, unprecedented and, sadly, not followed up on. Consider the steps offered by Clinton's 1996 anti-terror legislation, the price of it would have been at $1.097 billion. The following is part of the list of the initiatives offered by the Clinton anti-terrorism bill: * Screen Checked Baggage: $91.1 million * Screen Carry-On Baggage: $37.8 million * Passenger Profiling: $10 million * Screener Training: $5.3 million * Screen Passengers (portals) and Document Scanners: $1 million * Deploying Existing Technology to Inspect International Air Cargo: $31.4 million * Provide Additional Air/Counterterrorism Security: $26.6 million * Explosives Detection Training: $1.8 million * Augment
Posted by: Rose on Sep 18, 2008 at 01:05 AM
Tiffany, your comments about Palin in regards to the Jewish community are false. Palin never made such comments. The comments were made by a guest speaker at her church (David Brickner). Rabbi Yehuda Levin, a prominent Orthodox Rabbi, has addressed this & said that there is no comparison to her happening to be in an audience where a one-time guest speaker made such a comment & Obama sitting by Pastor Wright for twenty years. You can read all about Rabbi Levin's stance on this subject here: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/sep/08091705.html The saddest part about all of this is that you just accused me of throwing out falsehoods about Obama (which I have provided links to prove they are all true) & you didn't even bother to research this & see that she never said any such thing. Pot? Kettle?
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 18, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Rose: I am sorry for calling you a redneck by the way. The comments were paranoid though and those are the things that bother me when it comes to this election. Republicans have consistently used fear in their campaigns and it is not fair to you or to America. They have used 9/11 and now they have tried to make Americans believe that Obama is anti-american, muslim and an extremist. Neither candidate is squeaky clean. Their churches families and ethnic backgrounds should not be an issue though. What bothers me about the whole rev wright thing is obama had to leave the church that he had been a part of for 20 years. He did not believe in everything the Rev. preached yet still had to denounce his church because of all the bad attention surrounding it. That to me is unfair. It is paranoia that the republican party is thriving on right now. At a time when they should be uniting this country they are dividing it further. Don't blindly believe politicians. Their usually lying in some way.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Tiffany, I looked up that church's website & visited it way before the primaries. My problem is not the fact that the church he attended for over 20 years is mostly an African-American congregation. My problem is not that Rev. Wright seems to spread some very anti-American messages (he has that right here in America). My problem is that Obama sat in that church for 20 years & listened to this propaganda from Rev. Wright & was never insulted enough to leave. If I walked into my church & my pastor started spewing the types of messages that Wright shared with his congregation, I would be finding another church. Why? Because I don't support anti-American messages & propoganda. By attending each service week after week & year after year, Obama had to have felt the same way or he would have left long ago. I have serious reservations about a potential president exposing himself to something like this for 20 yrs w/out objecting. Again, if that makes me a redneck, so be it.
Posted by: Rose The Redneck :-) on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Jeannie: "I probably pay more in taxes than you make in a year." I don't know if you do or not. Who cares? I don't engage with people who are rude. If being a redneck means the opposite of you, then I'll wear that title with pride! Thanks!
Posted by: Rose on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I cannot help it if you do not like the facts. What you do not realize is that I do research of information for a living, so I'm very careful about what I believe & do research it. I do not care how Obama has refuted some of these facts. Why? Because they are all still facts & many of his explanations are weak & side-stepping...trying to downplay them (which I cannot blame him...I'd want to downplay them also). Jess, I'm quite familiar with Snopes & use it frequently. I never claimed Obama was a Muslim, did I? I know he is not a Muslim. Thanks for the link, though. Even Snopes says it is true he did not put his hand over his heart at that event. It appears to be negligence on his part, rather than refusal, but that's not something I would think a Presidential candidate would forget. At any rate, out of all the facts, that is the least of my concerns. I did not throw out false statements & personal attacks. I'm sorry if you find the truth tacky. Sometimes the truth hurts, Jess.
Posted by: THE FACTS PART 2 on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:36 PM
4. Obama & his mentor (who happened to be a communist) Frank Marshall Davis. Obama admitted in his own books to attending "socialist converences.": http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor 5. Obama did not put his hand over his heart during the national anthem at Tom Harkin's Iowa Steak Fry. This might have been out of ignorance of the rule or forgetfulness, but it is true: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1662530_1446035,00.html 6. Obama did, in fact, say that if Osama bin Laden were captured he should be allowed to appeal his case to U.S. civilian courts: http://www.examiner.com/a-1445814~Obama_advisers_say_bin_Laden_can_appeal_to_U_S__courts.html
Posted by: Will O'really on Sep 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Hi Jeannie. I thought you said you spent your money in Canada. This seems odd since you then said you had to spend your money on insurance. This, of course, cannot be true due to the wonderful free medical system in Canada. Either you are a blatant liar or you are just stirring up stink to cause an argument. Do us all a favor and close your pie hole until you can get your story strait. I want to go back to the educated argument between Rose and Tiffany. Congratulations on paying more in taxes than Rose makes in a year. That kind of puts you in the upper class doesn't it? Either way, that is a personal attack. If that is true, aren't you the reason for this whole argument to begin with. As far as the race card you have thrown out to Rose. I won't speak for her, but I vote based on my beliefs. I don't give a rats backside if the person is black, white, male, or female. As long as they believe like me.
Posted by: To rose by Jess on Sep 17, 2008 at 08:35 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp First go to that link n read up on your facts. I must say i check this message board everyday and have enjoyed reading yours and Tiffany's comments you both make great points. I am voting for Obama 100% but i thoroughly enjoyed you reasons for voting McCain you made me understand why you were doing so in a way that i had to respect it. In till you started throwing out false statements about Obama. The whole refusing to put his hand on his heart for the national anthem is false. I wouldn't either cause just like him I was raised to sing along with arms placed in front of me. I place my hand on my heart only during the pledge of allegiance. Does that make me anti American? I was actually raised in ILL till i was 16 and moved here n 1998 maybe its an ILL thing i don't know.... vote who you want but don't throw out false statements a untrue personal attacks its tacky and made me lose respect for you.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:48 PM
I needed that refund check to help me pay for two months' worth of my health insurance.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Yes, Rose, you are a paranoid redneck. And I apologize to all rednecks that may read this because I know some of you are very good people. Just because YOU SAY IT is true doesn't make it TRUE. Simple Google searches will help you identify the facts which you seek (or should seek). There are many, many sites that dispute nearly everything you spew. If, however, because of your obviously severe case of redneckedness (I graduated from the G.W. Bush School of Linguistics), you have been left with an inability to perform a Google search (which I must admit to pondering) and you simply rely on the latest E-MAIL in your INBOX from NIGERIA, then go to SNOPES.COM
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:31 PM
I probably pay more in taxes than you make in a year.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 17, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Anyone who cares to know the truth about the church Barrack Obama USED to belong too here is the link. www.tucc.org/about.htm There is a big difference in being proud of being black and being an extremist Rose. Yes, it does make you sound like a paranoid redneck. I'm sorry I hate to sound that way and I hate to insult someone but when you type the nonsense that you just did I can't help it. I could understand your thinking on healthcare and welfare but those comments are ridiculous. They are comments that the news hasn't even bothered repeating since January. They are unfair and untrue. His church had a large majority of black people, they accepted anyone though. How is that different from any other church in America that is predominantly white? There are plenty of Evangelist out there who are very extreme however, republicans continue to listen to their pastors and belong to their churches and nobody says a thing. That is why this bothers me.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 17, 2008 at 02:42 PM
So I seriously doubt having being raised by a white family that Obama is anti white which is what you are implying. IF I am playing "the race card" so are you.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 17, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Actually Rose I'm not angry. I think you are wrong. Even John McCain left the Rev Wright controversy alone because he knew it wasn't fair. The news doesn't even bother to mention your claim about Hamas so why would I pay any attention to it? You are now to the point where you are making things up. Obama doesn't put his hand over his heart during the national anthem? I'm sure that's a Bill O Reilly episode. I think your comments are laughable. If I thought they had any substance I would look them up but I really doubt it. You should probably go to Factcheck.com and check it out for yourself. I am not "playing the race card". How very predictable of you to say. I only find it ridiculous that your not talking about Sara Palins comments on Jewish people. Saying that terrorism against jews is gods judgement. Plenty of people go to churchs that have preachers with extreme beliefs. Obamas mother is white. His grandmother who he obviously loves and respects is white.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Of course you cashed & spent your check. How very hypocritical.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 17, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Jeannie, of course you cashed & spent your check. What a hypocrite.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 17, 2008 at 01:27 PM
You are only mad because every single point I made is TRUE! I challenge you to find proof that the reasons I gave for not trusting Obama are false. I refuse to vote for a man who won't salute the flag, put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, & who removed the flag from his jet. If John McCain attended a church & followed a spiritual leader who supported white supremacy, I wouldn't like him either. You are pulling the race card & it's disgusting & makes me want to vomit up my lunch. Everything I pointed out is true & are very good reasons to question his character & integrity. If, by refusing to blindly turn my head to these frightening facts, makes me a "paranoid redneck," then so be it. I'd rather be a "paranoid redneck" than put a man in office who has followed the disgusting, racist, Anti-American venom of Rev. Wright for the past 2 decades, willingly. There may be white preachers like him, only in reverse, that has nothing to do w/the fact Obama has supported it.
Posted by: Tiffany on Sep 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM
PLEASE! Do you know how many white preachers there are that probably feel the same way as rev wright only reversed. Why wasnt McCains church underneath a microscope being picked apart? Hamas? It's disgraceful that you would even repeat that. Terrorist also said they wanted John Kerry for president. Why would you put anything into what a terrorist group says? Why even give them the pleasure of repeating what they say. They say things for a reason and noone knows that reason. When it comes to terrorism you should always be skeptical of why they are saying anything. Your reasons for not trusting Obama are reasons that Fox News have given "white America" to be afraid of. Go ahead, come back with your " typical liberal" using the race card. I'm sick of people like you making the rest of us look like paranoid rednecks. The "less furtunate" that I was referring to were the millions who are uninsured. YOU just decided to go on a little rant about medicaid recipients.
Posted by: TO ROSE on Sep 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM
You have been indoctrinated well. I see you use the Rovian strategy in arguments. You argue over whether or not someone misquoted you and only make points on personality-driven issues rather than on facts. Really, how can anyone possibly prove most people on welfare have flat-panel TVs. Oh, yeah, right, you know EMTs and they are your proof. I want to hear your arguments against corporate welfare also. Corporations are taking far more money from the pockets of the middle class than all of welfare combined. MCCAIN wants to TAX your HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS. That just doesn't make sense. You would vote for someone who would raise your taxes? Obama will not. I see you have also reverted to silly logic about Obama's patriotism. Give me a break! You're a fool. Please respond quickly to let me know how I have misrepresented your arguments and logic.
Posted by: Jeannie on Sep 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM
I spent my refund check in Canada.
Posted by: Rose on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:51 PM
It doesn't matter to me a bit how Obama's health plan works. Why? Because I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher due to many other reasons: his spiritual leader for 20 yrs has been Jeremiah Wright (racist & anti-American), he is friends w/William Ayers & Bernadine Dorhn (unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists), he was mentored by a David Mendell (communist) & has admitted to attending "socialist conferences." He has been endorsed by Hamas (the terrorist group). His patriotism is, at best, questionable. He thinks that if Osama bin Laden is captured he should be allowed to appeal his case to U.S. civilian courts (McCain opposes this). Shall I go on? Do we really need any more reasons not to trust him?
Posted by: Rose on Sep 16, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I certainly will blame Clinton for the terrorism mess we have! 1993: World Trade Center bombing killing & injuring US citizens, 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia killing & injuring US military personnel, 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia killing & injuring US military personnel, 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa killing & injuring many, 2000 bombing of the USS Cole killing & injuring US sailors. Clinton did