Obama Called Out for Comments About Bankrupting Coal Fired Power Plants
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Posted: 7:27 PM Nov 2, 2008
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West Virginia Governor Joe Manchin appeared on CNBC Monday to discuss the coal controversy.

Governor Manchin says he believes Obama's statements were taken out of context.

Manchin also says he believes "West Virginia is going to be the sleeper for Barack Obama." He believes Obama could win the state in Tuesday's election and that he will be our next President.

He says Obama is the better man to help the nation's struggling economy.


United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) International President Cecil E. Roberts issued the following statement:

"Sen. John McCain and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, have once again demonstrated that they are willing to say anything and do anything to win this election. Their latest twisting of the truth is about coal and some comments Sen. Obama made last January about the future use of coal in America.

Here what the McCain campaign left out of Sen. Obama’s actual words: ‘But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is, is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon. And how can we sequester that carbon and capture it.'

Sen. Obama has been consistent with that message not just in the coalfields, but everywhere else he goes as well. Despite what the McCain campaign and some far right-wing blogs would have Americans believe, Sen. Obama has been and remains a tremendous supporter of coal and the future of coal.

I noted that Sen. McCain even went so far yesterday as to say he has always been a supporter of coal. I wonder, then, how he can justify his statement at a Senate hearing in 2000 that, ‘In a perfect world we would like to transition away from coal entirely,’ and his leading role in sponsoring legislation in 2003 that would have wiped out 78 percent of all coal production in America?

Fortunately, UMWA members, their families and their friends and neighbors in the coalfields know all too well what is going on here. They’re not going to fall for it, and we urge others throughout America who care about coal to review what the candidates’ records on coal actually are. We are confident that once they do, and once they see the many other benefits to working families of voting for Sen. Obama, they will make the right choice for themselves and their families."

Monday, the Ohio Coal Association sent out a news release in reference to the story.

Mike Carey, president of the Ohio Coal Association (OCA), today issued the following statement in response to just-released remarks from Senator Barack Obama about the nation's coal industry.

"Regardless of the timing or method of the release of these remarks, the message from the Democratic candidate for President could not be clearer: the Obama-Biden ticket spells disaster for America's coal industry and the tens of thousands of Americans who work in it.

"These undisputed, audio-taped remarks, which include comments from Senator Obama like 'I haven't been some coal booster' and 'if they want to build [coal plants], they can, but it will bankrupt them' are extraordinarily misguided.

"It's evident that this campaign has been pandering in states like Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania to attempt to generate votes from coal supporters, while keeping his true agenda hidden from the state's voters.

"Senator Obama has revealed himself to be nothing more than a short- sighted, inexperienced politician willing to say anything to get a vote. But today, the nation's coal industry and those who support it have a better understanding of his true mission, to 'bankrupt' our industry, put tens of thousands out of work and cause unprecedented increases in electricity prices.

"In addition to providing an affordable, reliable source of low-cost electricity, domestic coal holds the key to our nation's long-term energy security - a goal that cannot be overlooked during this time of international instability and economic uncertainty.

"Few policy areas are more important to our economic future than energy issues. As voters head to the polls tomorrow, it is essential they remember that access to reliable, affordable, domestic energy supplies is essential to economic growth and stability."

The Ohio Coal Association (OCA) is a non-profit trade association representing the interests of Ohio's underground and surface coal mining producers. The OCA represents nearly 40 coal producing companies and more than 50 Associate Members, which include suppliers and consultants to the mining industry, coal sales agents and brokers and allied industries. The Ohio Coal Association is committed to advancing the development and utilization of Ohio coal as an abundant, economic and environmentally sound energy source.


Statement by Senator Jay Rockefeller:

“The claims you are hearing from the McCain/Palin campaign are misleading and untrue.

Barack Obama has been very clear with me and with you on his plan for clean coal – and it’s the most aggressive plan in support of clean coal we’ve seen from any presidential candidate.

The idea that the McCain/Palin campaign is alleging the day before the election that Barack Obama’s commitment to coal is anything but solid is absolutely ridiculous.

This is exactly the kind of deceptive politicking voters are fed up with.”

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- With only hours before election day, coal has become a major topic of Decision 2008.

Sunday, comments resurfaced from a taped interview Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama did with the San Francisco Chronicle in January.

In the interview, which has been available online for months, Obama talks about the importance of coal. He went on to talk about his cap and trade proposal to help curb global warming.

"If somebody wants to build a coal power plant they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted," Barack Obama said to the San Francisco Chronicle in January.

The campaign for Republican presidential candidate John McCain jumped on those comments today and is already sending out taped phone messages to voters in Ohio.

Campaigning in Marietta today, McCain's running mate Sarah Palin mentioned the Obama comments.

"He said that, sure, if the industry wants to build coal-fired power plants, then they can go ahead and try, he says, but they can do it only in a way that will bankrupt the coal industry, and he's comfortable letting that happen. And you got to listen to the tape," Sarah Palin said.

The Obama campaign says the quote is being taken out of context and that Obama is actually from a coal state and is a strong supporter of the industry.

The campaign sent a statement today saying "the point Obama is making is that we need a transition from coal burning power plants built with old technology to plants built with advanced technologies."

Monday, the San Francisco Chronicle pointed out the interview has been available on its website since January. It was critical of blogs which claimed the audio was hidden until this point.

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Posted by: Mikey on Jun 12, 2009 at 02:56 PM
To respond to some previous comments, we might want to clarify: while nuclear power produces less greenhouse gas emissions than coal, it still produces them over its life-cycle. Furthermore, it physically can't be the only solution for energy deployment. I read a study that said there are limits to how fast an energy technology can grow, and nuclear can't grow fast enough to meet demand while replacing coal energy too. The study I mentioned is posted here: http://inderscience.metapress.com/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent&backto=issue,6,6;journal,2,6;linkingpublicationresults,1:119992,1 With another similar conference paper here: http://me.queensu.ca/people/pearce/publications/documents/asp3.pdf
Posted by: JIm on Mar 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I guess he supports burning more tree. Raise taxes on coal power, and people will burn more wood to heat there houses. All in a time when our economy sucks lets make it cost more for power. Stupid.
Posted by: jackie cox on Dec 17, 2008 at 01:09 AM
The solution to dealing with toxic emissions is simple. The average plant emitts about 1000 cubic ft per minute of 3 really bad oxygen compounds-so-no-and co2-The smoke leaves the stack above 200 degrees and settles out downwind and downstream. The damage to nature is beyond words. My proposal is simple, put the emissions thru a series of chambers designed to reduce the temperature and collect the toxic elements, about 10 minutes and a dozen or so reactors would do the job, the overall size of the cheapest reactors may be around 300 acres of structures, the elemental components could be removed using catalysts mixed with fluids in the vapour stage as well as acellerated mixtures of water and air. Mostly the compounds seperate with a reduction in temperature via normal elemental changes. The solution, not complicated, compared to the saving of all life forms. The only thing lacking is the will and the misunderstanding of what it involves. Too many grant masters.I would do it for free
Posted by: King Coal on Nov 8, 2008 at 03:13 AM
Pacific, Northeast and Middle Atlantic regions use the least amounts of coal for energy. Texas, WV, KY, MO, OH, PA, IL, and IN probably account for half of all the coal used for energy. So...8 states which get their energy almost entirely from coal should account for your figure of half of the energy in the US comes from coal. I'm saying those states should invest in alternative energy sources. Maintaining jobs is an arguable excuse as to why WV should not evolve, but it is not a good one. The government already justifies some of its backwards policies on keeping jobs. Our entire War on Drugs is to keep law enforcement and those in political positions with jobs. It hasn't worked since its inception, and isn't working now. We need some reform in that area as well. The link for the coal info may be found here: http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/coal/page/acr/table26.html
Posted by: Bob on Nov 7, 2008 at 11:13 AM
And as far as drilling. It will take some time to get the oil & Natural Gas. but demand isn't decreasing and the sooner we drill the sooner we get the benefit. oil is in almost every product you buy it is needed for other things other that gas. And I disagree with your comment of WV & KY being the only states dependant on coal. Coal makes up 50% of the energy in the USA. WV & KY coal use does not account for even close to 100% of the USA's coal usage. Every states energy is produced heavily with coal. Including the very liberal North East.
Posted by: Bob on Nov 7, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Yes I have heard of the other energy sources. And on a large scale the only thing that can replace the megawatt you get from coal is Nuclear. Obama is also against Nuclear. Wind and solar at this time are a joke. It wont meet rising demand for energy. who wants our beautiful country side polluted with an eye sore of wind mills every were. I saw a report on TV of a huge wind farm in Texas that took up 2 counties. It was 10 of thousands acres. It didn't replace the mega watt out put of one unit at my coal plant. And look at the jobs these Green Jobs will cost. It took only 4 people to man that wind farm after it was built. These place take good long term jobs and replace them with alot of temporary jobs. After the wind and solar farms are built it only takes a minimal amount of people to maintain them. Green eliminates jobs. Something our economy needs.
Posted by: Barker T. on Nov 6, 2008 at 05:51 PM
Bob, you can look at an energy breakdown by state. WV and KY by far are ran almost entirely on coal. The rest of the nation, not so much. There are multiple other sources for energy even if you haven't heard about them for the coal dust in your ears. Also, if you listen to the entire speech, you will know it was taken out of context since he and McCain and most of the other politicians in office support clean coal technology. Byrd doesn't and said he could not because he fears what it would do to WV. One person against the rest of the country doesn't seem like good odds to me. The state needs to evolve and not rely on energy sources from the 19th century. Lastly, you do realize that the off shore drilling proposed would not be able to take place for many years. It would not help at all with gas prices. And the rumor about other countries drilling off the US shores is untrue. The EPA would not allow it. They are the ones protecting the species and coasts.
Posted by: Bob on Nov 6, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Jay Rockefeller is out of touch with WV. Why do people keep sending this worthless politician back to DC? He is against drilling in the USA I wouldn't doubt he is against coal too. Barack Hussein Obama's comments were not taking out of context. He said what he said. Listen to it. Then leaves all his supporters scrambling in damage control. Both Manchin & Rockefeller are bad for WV. They are supporting a guy that wants to bankrupt the coal industry that would bankrupt WV.. Wake up WV.. I pray those words were taken out of context but I really don't think they were. Look at where he said it. San Francisco. He hidn't think us Hillbillies would hear them. I work for a coal fired power plant and these next four years we wont be going on vacation we wont be spending any money except for the necessities. We planned on buying a new car after the election but not now. Who knows how long I will still have a good job.
Posted by: Bob on Nov 6, 2008 at 07:54 AM
I think the ignorant people that say lets get rid of coal do not understand the percentage of power that is generated in U.S. by coal. Our enemies will be licking their chops.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 5, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Tracy I din't say anything about Obama winning. He might be the change we need.
Posted by: Tracy on Nov 5, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Anonymous, everything you mentioned may currently be related to coal in some way, I doubt it though. But, if so, there are other sources of energy in the world. I'll tell you another thing that coal gives to the world and miners...black lung. Have a good day. I know I will. Obama won!!!!
Posted by: Make No Mistakes on Nov 5, 2008 at 04:42 PM
For all you hateful McCain supporters....shut up and deal with it....even McCain realizes his lose.....Obama has always been the man.
Posted by: Amy on Nov 5, 2008 at 03:27 PM
To Linda: I very much appauld you and your comment.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 5, 2008 at 02:29 PM
Thank you Coal Miners!! Already lost their sticks and way . Tell your children, I ran America today. I provide her with everything she nees for all the people who work for a living to be productive. I even provide the power to run Wall street and Washington Dc. The next time someone ask you what yyou do for a living you tell them, Imine the coal that runs America. Thank you for the quality of life.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 5, 2008 at 02:21 PM
Thank you Coal Miners.. The Next time you pass a person protesting coal, stop a minute and educate him. Ask him or her if they really want to live in a world free of coal. When they say yes, smile. Have them strip down to nothing, because coal provides their clothes, tell them to put there shoes on the pile too. Leave ther laptop and i-pod. If they have a tatoo tell them they may have to take a little coal with them unless they want to cut it off so they can remain pristine. Then break them off a stick, don't cut it with a knife because coal was instrumental in making the knife, hand them a rock and stick and send them to the woods on foot. Tell them you would give them some matches but that too is contaminated with coal and a flashlight is definitlyy out of the question. Then go home to your family and take a minute to tell your children what you did today. Explain to them what coal provides so they won't end up like the poor ignorant fools you sent to the woods that have already
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 5, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Thank You coal Miners! First I thank god,and then I thank you for my home and everything in it,my car,my clothes,the heat pump, the food on my table. You help provide it all. Not just my life but every life in America need to realize what you do for them everyday. You provide raw materials that runs factories, refineries and the stell mills, the trains, planes, trucks and subways. The tiny baby struggling for life in an incubator will live because of the COAL YOU MINE, which makes it possible to build the unit and the supply it with the exact amount of heat and air to sustain the precious life. You help provide all the bulding material for all the cities and towns, and highways across America. All things inside those buldings, and then the light, heat and cool them. Every man-made thing, I dare say, you help provide in some way. I can't think of anything you don't touch in some way.
Posted by: neighbor on Nov 5, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Bible Lady speaks the truth and some of you make fun of her. She is the nicest woman I have met, but really gets fired up about religion. She shared this verse with me: "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes." - Romans 11:28. I think this verse pertains to people like Bible Lady who tried to inform the public about our new snake in the grass President. You all didn't listen.
Posted by: Stephen on Nov 4, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Congratulations to the voters of Kentucky for sending Senator Mitch McConnell back to the Senate.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Bible Lady you better get ready to run. Obama is going to win so you and your people can start disappearing in droves like you said. Bye.
Posted by: Bible Lady on Nov 4, 2008 at 09:32 PM
My comments have been censored that were left after 5pm. So much for freedom of press and religion. 1st amendment rights now gone.
Posted by: Mar on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:36 PM
I am very excited to see Obama change America. I just wonder what kind of change it would be? Obama for President!
Posted by: So Sad on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:22 PM
I am so glad I no longer live in West Virginia. Do some of you really think like this? No wonder half of you do not leave your names.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:16 PM
I will be laughing at you all when Obama wins and things are worse than they are now! I will be the one telling you that you voted for him, don't complain!
Posted by: Noda FNL on Nov 4, 2008 at 07:19 PM
I hope all of you that voted for Obama gets what you deserve and the ones that didn't, God help us. I have a family that I take care of without help from the government. I feel I'm already supporting way too many government programs without his being added.
Posted by: RoaneCo. on Nov 4, 2008 at 07:18 PM
If you want to know why so many people are turned off by religion today just read some of the comments posted by these fine christians below. I have never seen so much hate and judging coming from people that are living at the foot of the cross. The way some of you are living don't bother praying for my soul because I don't think your connection with your God is as great as you want others to believe.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 06:24 PM
From an Obama supporter I have one question for all of you. If the your candidate loses the election where do you go from there? Sean Hannity is talking on his radio show about an "underground conservative uprising" if Obama wins this election. As an Obama supporter if McCain wins I feel it is my patriotic duty to fully support him for at least 2 years and see how things turn out. I feel like Hannity preaching this uprising is the most unpatriotic thing I have ever heard of and every American no matter what party should give the president a chance for a few years to see how things turn out. Am I the only one that feels it is our patriotic duty to support the President or will half our population hate our President before he ever serves a day in office?
Posted by: To anonymous at 4:42 on Nov 4, 2008 at 06:07 PM
The Bible says to Go and preach the Gospel to all nations. Christ told his disciples that if they do not receive you, "Shake the dust of that city off your shoes. Let it be a testament to them." It also says that rebuke those that sin, if they hear you and repent "you have gained a brother"/sister if they do not, then consider that man a heretic.
Posted by: To Tina on Nov 4, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Yours may very well be the dumbest post on here. You do realize that WV has been a Democratic state for decades, led by Democrats in the Senate and the House, both nationally and within the state, and has been for YEARS. Take another look at the power structure within state Government and then spout off again about who is hurting WV. Any nail Bush may have driven, was into a coffin that was already closed.
Posted by: Neighbor on Nov 4, 2008 at 05:34 PM
I have no doubt that Bible Lady is inspired by God. She lives next to me and is the kindest lady I know. You don't want to cross her on the Bible though. Those who insist on making fun of her will live to regret this decision. She showed me this verse which I don't find "odd" or ambiguous as Anonymous insinuated below about some of the others. Read it and reflect. You will see the Lord working through this scripture and it deals DIRECTLY with what is going on as we speak: "Concerning the Good News, they are enemies for your sake. But concerning the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sake." - Romans 11:28. To the true Christians among us, it is chilling isn't it? Pick up your Bible and read it if you don't believe it. I pray that you repent before the morrow is upon us.
Posted by: Kevin Maynard on Nov 4, 2008 at 05:32 PM
Go Bible Lady... I agee with ya 100%
Posted by: Bible Lady on Nov 4, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Anonymous, you ask WWJD. Well, he did turn over the tables of those vendors making change in the temple. Jesus was GOD in human form. Perhaps you should go back to the Old Testament to see how GOD handled those who turned their backs on him and his teachings. God's striking down did not end with the Old Testament. Saul, later Paul, was struck down from his horse and shown the power of the true GOD. He then became the most ardent disciple of Christ and his teachings. Helping out a person who turns their backs on GOD would scare me for fear of being struck down myself. If you thought the BIBLE was all about happiness and rainbows, then you really should get to a church ASAP and read your BIBLE. Luke 19:27 - "But bring those enemies of mine who didn't want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me.'" Hebrews 10:27 - "There remains nothing but a certain awful expectation of judgement, and the fury of a fire which before long will devour the enemies of the truth."
Posted by: Linda on Nov 4, 2008 at 05:02 PM
You all are worshipping this person (last time I checked, he still is a person), like he is the Messiah or something. Get a clue--this is just a very inexperienced regular guy who has the knack of attracting millions to hear him talk, talk, talk (many cult leaders have had that knack too). Be careful what you wish for, 'cause you just might get it. You are wanting to put a person who couldn't even get an FBI clearance (due to his lack of judgement and affiliations) in charge of the U.S. You are just nuts!
Posted by: justme on Nov 4, 2008 at 04:46 PM
I have a savior, I'm looking for a president. Obama 08
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 04:44 PM
Proposal ,if obama does win we wont cry for us ,we will cry for you and pray for you because the ones like you that make's fun of Christian's people and mock' God , will need all the prayer's you can get .When you are being taxed to death (if you are one of thoes who work's)your electric bill goes out of this world and no job's --------then you will cry------The Christian's has God we will be took care of ,no matter what .
Posted by: Tina on Nov 4, 2008 at 04:43 PM
it amazes me that people here in WV care nothing about the economy, we are one of the poorest states and to be a republican in this day and time is just stupid, they care nothing about you and brainwash you just like a cult, they will never help out WV or anyone else who is poor, wake up... they only care about winning they have no real issues that they have even brought up once and go on and on with their lies to deceit you all, just go ahead and keep showing the nation this state is full of ignorant inbred rednecks
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 04:42 PM
I do thank GOD for one thing. That this election will be decided tonight. Then we don't have to listen to you bible thumping idiots that only get their "facts" from political ads and odd scripture in the bible that can be interpreted any way you want. Obama wants CLEAN coal plants. As a human on this planet, we should all agree on that. You people that get yourselves worked up over something taken out of context need to get on some anti-anxiety medication and breathe deeply. Before you jump to conclusions, go to REAL SOURCES FOR REAL FACTS. Educate yourselves. BTW, to BIBLE LADY. I can't see you being a true christian because you would turn your back on someone that doesn't believe just as you do. That's not the Christian thing to do. Open up your eyes BIBLE LADY. You are not living up to WWJD if that's how you would treat others. Whatever church you attend, I would certainly stay out of.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 04:28 PM
KY LADY... better go to Fox News they will show you the whole video HAHAHAHAHA. That is the funniest thing I have heard all week. Fox News is well known as being a right-wing propoganda machine. You would not criticize Wright if they showed the whole video because from a white, christian who watched the whole video even his comments were taken out of context. Maybe you will see Obama saying he will bankrupt the coal induastry on Fox News, but turn over to another news channel and there is at least a chance they will tell you McCain agrees with Obama on that and they share very similar plans to charge for greenhouse gas emissions.
Posted by: To Linda on Nov 4, 2008 at 04:27 PM
Thank-you for the most sane, literate, and well thought out post on here. You have my respect. To Travis: While KY Lady may not be correct in her accusations that Obama "hates white people", she is dead on with her comment that a follower of Christ CANNOT vote for the support or supporters of what are abominations in the sight of God. You said you voted your Bible, but I suspect you voted your wallet. If you can show me in your Bible where God or Christ would be supportive of a man who supports, not only abortion, but the killing of infants OUT of the mother, then I will stand corrected. However, I have studied my Bible faithfully, and there is no book, chapter, or verse that would support such a vote for Barack.
Posted by: Bible Lady on Nov 4, 2008 at 04:03 PM
How dare some of you make fun of us good Christians trying to get out the word on the snake known as Obama bin Hussein. In the Old Testament a group of kids were making fun of a crippled Christian man. God sent a mother bear to eat these children. The BIBLE says that God is a jelous God. You're worship of Obama is not viewed kindly by him I would presume. Those who turn your back on GOD and the BIBLE and vote for this snake in the grass better not come to me wanting a locust wing or a smidgeon of my honey when the END TIMES are upon us. Obama will bring our nation to ruin. Those of who know what has been foretold will band together and await the coming of our LORD. For he shall avenge his people. When the Christians of the world disappear in droves and the news stations wonder what happened to a large chunk of those in the nation I bet panic will ensue. Well, us true Christians won't be panicking. We'll be rocked in the loving arms of our SAVIOUR. The others, God will smite.
Posted by: Proposal on Nov 4, 2008 at 03:45 PM
Hey peeps, I could use some help here. I'm looking for McCain supporters who will let me watch them cry after Obama wins the election. I know some of the religious nuts thing it will be the END TIMES like that bible lady said below. They will probably be hysterical in their grief. I'd like to watch them cry and if possible lick their tears of sadness. I bet they'll be delicious. Yummy.
Posted by: nra4life? on Nov 4, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Any NRA member should know that McCain sponsored the gun show loophole bill in Congress. The NRA was all over him in advertisements and telephone solicitation calls call him anti-gun and everything else. He received a D rating regarding gun rights. Go back and look at your NRA literature if you don't believe it. They did endorse McCain this election even though they never endorsed G. W. Bush. I would assume this has more to do with their KKK roots than any hatred Obama has of guns. That's right. After the War a couple of Confederate generals got together and started a little gun club. It still exists today.
Posted by: John on Nov 4, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Governor Manchin and Cecil Robert have too much invested in Senator Obama to change their stances now. It would take courage to stand up for the truth... Senator Obama will be devasting to the coal industry - period.
Posted by: Freeurmind on Nov 4, 2008 at 03:35 PM
There has been one 2nd Amendment case that has made it to the Supreme Court. The rewording of a petition is not enough to make them re-hear an issue that has already been settled. Abortion was made Constitutional by Roe v. Wade. How many abortion cases does the Supreme Court now hear? I can name one and it was the one in 2007 that upheld the ban on partial birth abortion. Hunter probably barely has a high school education. I am a licensed attorney. Trust me when I say he is wrong. When has any President attempted to make abortion illegal post Roe v. Wade? When has any President tried to ban guns? This has not and will not happen. Hunter doesn't understand the separation of powers part of the Constitution. I suggest he read over Articles 1, 2, and 3 of the Constitution. It's not very long. While you're at it you should check out Marbury v. Madison as well. To make a change to the Constitution (2nd Amendment), it will take an Amendment to the Constitution. Anything else is lies. Believe.
Posted by: Pat on Nov 4, 2008 at 03:01 PM
A lot of Black people (not all) blame's white's for slave's ,I have never owned one and im sure no one living now has either,so why are we being blamed for something happen a long time ago ,something we had no control over.I did vote Mccain.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 02:54 PM
Duh I hope you answer for what you said about God ,you are one dumb something ,as far as gun's we love our gun's and I got a feeling we will need them .You Obama freak .This year I voted all Republican .If obama get's in ,God help the WHITE'S
Posted by: Travis on Nov 4, 2008 at 02:33 PM
I did vote the Bible, Obama 08! KY LADY says and I quote "He hates Americans and whites"...wow, all I can say is I hope you vote because it is something we should all feel obligated to do. But you mam are voting based on ignorance and hatred. A vote for McCain can be respected, but not for those reasons. I hope you get some help, maybe you should open that bible up a little more often.
Posted by: Glo on Nov 4, 2008 at 02:15 PM
Why would anyone vote for another person from oil state? Hasn't 8 years been enough of high prices and young people losing their lives in Iraq? Why hasn't anyone questioned McCain about being the grandchild of slave owner who had children by by his slaves. In other words he has black relatives to, only he refused to acknowledge them. Or the wife he left because she was disfigured in a care wreck. That is who you want.
Posted by: Linda on Nov 4, 2008 at 02:08 PM
I am black, and I voted for McCain...Not for any reason other than I think he has more experience and will do a better job. Let Mr. Obama run again when he has a few more years under his belt, and we all know what he really stands for. Did you even know who he was 3 years ago? No--nobody did, and he is still wet behind the ears, and has some growing up to do. Let him cut his teeth and get experience from another position somewhere else; not from the most powerful position in the Free World. I would rather have a tried and true known than to fear what's ahead from an extreme liberal unknown with LOTS of very over-liberal friends. Next thing you know, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Oprah will be in the Presidential cabinet running America. No thank you... I'll pass on that for now. What I don't understand is why he didn't say that he's 1/2 Caucasian. He could have really reached everyone then. Instead he was the one saying he was a pround black man. Well, he's 1/2 white too...
Posted by: anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 01:53 PM
NOBAMA
Posted by: Kentucky Lady on Nov 4, 2008 at 01:49 PM
My 83 yr. old father who is a life long strong democrat JUST VOTED FOR THE BETTER MAN/WOMAN...MCCAIN AND PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TONIGHT JOHN MCCAIN WILL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: KY LADY on Nov 4, 2008 at 01:36 PM
Obama is a deceiver, read your Bibles people, he is not who we want as our President now or ever. How many terrorists and crooks can one man have as friends anyways? Obama seems to have plenty. He hates Americans and whites, ....he sat in with others at meeting who said just that. McCain is more of an American and a better person overall, than he will ever hope to be. The democrat party is for abortion, homosexuals, gay marriage...and as a christian...or as anyone who truly believes in God and reads their Bible knows those things are against GOD'S WORD, therefore you can not vote for Obama PERIOD. The coal thing...yes they have him on video saying just that in plain english, no misunderstandings at all. look it up and watch it for yourself. better go to foxnews because msnbc/cnn and others have not been showing full stories and video clips about Obama. That is why the public is so misinformed about Obama (the truth). If everyone knew the truth, he wouldn`t get elected as Co. dogcatcher
Posted by: Lee on Nov 4, 2008 at 01:29 PM
I have read many of the comments that people have left and they have to be some of the most bizarre views of the world I have ever come across. I hope these people just forgot to take their medication and they are really not this stupid.
Posted by: ky lady on Nov 4, 2008 at 01:22 PM
well well well. obama gonna kill jobs in our states and for our friends and families. so glad the word is out on Obama once again. just another reason to vote for john mccain ...who is the man you can trust. GO MCCAIN AND PALIN! WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY, OUR BIBLES, AND OUR GUNS! AND OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
Posted by: Jill on Nov 4, 2008 at 01:00 PM
Obama....Obama....08!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Cristi on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:59 PM
VOTE THE BIBLE
Posted by: To Freeurmind on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:40 PM
The fact that it took you until today to make up your mind thoroughly explains the 'thoughts' reflected in your post. First of all, they have the opportunity to place uber-liberal Supreme Court Justices on the Bench. Once they are in place, simply rewording of their petition is reason enough for the Supreme Court to review the postion. All they would have to do is change their "interpretation" of the 2nd Amendment in regards to the petition. This ruling would NOT require participation from ANY voters, other than the nine on the bench. Aside from that, a liberal Democratic majority in Congress coupled with a liberal Democratic President would have to do nothing more than to increase the taxes on both guns AND ammunition to a point where you can't afford to own one. This accomplishes the same desired conclusion without the messy court procedings. So, in response to your "fear and ignorance" comment...loks like the ignorance is yours. We have grown to expect no less from the Obamanation
Posted by: Panamanian on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I hope Obama wins so Senator McCain can come back to his place of birth and become our next President in 2009. Panama never recognized the Panama Canal Zone, so they consider anyone born in the area to be a natural born Panamanian citizen. I understand the US is trying to claim him now too, and for a time so did Vietnam. The truth of the matter is that we could use his solid leadership in a time of strife in our country's history. Do us all a favor and vote for Obama. We'll make sure the Panama of the 1980s (think the Panama Jack craze) comes back strong with a leader like McCain...in Panama.
Posted by: cease on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Jerome Corsi’s “The Obama Nation” is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods. Corsi is a renowned conspiracy theorist who says that George Bush is attempting to create a North American Union (we looked at that here) and that there is evidence that the World Trade Center may have collapsed because it was seeded with explosives. More recently, Corsi claimed that Obama released a fake birth certificate. We’ve debunked that twice now. And, as our colleagues at PolitiFact.com found, many of the themes in “The Obama Nation” are reworked versions of bogus chain e-mail smears. In Corsi’s case, we judge that both his reputation and his latest book fall short when measured by the standards of good scholarship, or even of mediocre journalism.
Posted by: Carol on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:12 PM
You people have a good Governor, Manchin has looked out for the good of WVa. You people need to let him lead you, And not let closed minds ruin your futures as well as your children. Obama does not want your guns. He has more things to take care of like the econmey and the war. OPEN YOUR MINDS
Posted by: Joanne on Nov 4, 2008 at 11:59 AM
I don't know about every aspect of coal fired power plants, but I DO know that AEP & every other power plant in America are under a time restriction to modernize & install "clean technology". My fiancee is a union ironworker who has been working at every power plant in the area & has stated that this is the big work in the area now. The power plants are working to lower the emissions. They ARE doing what the EPA demanded. Obama & his remarks simply reflect his playing both sides of the story. He is telling each side what they want to hear to get him into office. Obama doesn't want to drill off-shore, even though other countries are drilling off our shores right now. He stated he'd consider it. That's double talk for not a chance. McCain has drawbacks, but at least he has the experience and the scars from defending our country. I don't want a great speaker in office, which Obama is, I want a Pres who won't be pushed around. That's McCain. Sorry to hear about Obama's grandmother though.
Posted by: Ash on Nov 4, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Why is everyone talking about race?? It appears to me the people bringing up the issue are the racists. And for thr record, I'm not African-American. Everyone needs to grow-up and just think about what's best for the economy. Enough said.
Posted by: Earthmother on Nov 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM
I'd think all you weirded-out and religiously racist folks would welcome anything that could be seen as a means to Armageddon and the second coming. And remember, WV has a bad rep hillbilly wise across Amerika. Folks are gonna come on here and read all this and will then have a great deal more fuel for the "illiterate and inbred" theory.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Hunter, since no one wants to take your guns away you have nothing to worry about. Bible Lady, have fun with your locust and honey while the rest of the world will continue normally without you and your idiotic theories.
Posted by: Believer on Nov 4, 2008 at 09:37 AM
"Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are always liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate." - Titus 1:9-16
Posted by: Enlightened on Nov 4, 2008 at 09:33 AM
I think MamawSharon and Bible Lady are the same person. They both sound as ignorant and misguided. Well, I for one am guided by the true God. The God of Israel. He showed me in a vision that Obama is the answer the nation needs. "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised." Luke 4:12
Posted by: Freeurmind on Nov 4, 2008 at 09:24 AM
Hunter, thank you for helping me decide who to vote for today. Having people like you attempt to distort the truth and tell us our guns can be taken away after the Supreme Court has declared the 2nd Amendment an individual right is ridiculous. The only way guns could be taken away is with a Constitutional Amendment. Do you know how many of those we've had? The voters of the states would have to vote to take away guns. Not gonna happen, just like Roe v. Wade will not be overturned. The GOP always campaigns like they can do something about. Short of a Constitutional Amendment that won't happen. The Supreme Court is the ultimate interpreter of the Constitution. This was decided in the early 1800s court case Marbury v. Madison. If you let fear and ignorance run your life and vote based on lies you are no better than those filling your head with those lies. With this being said I will now be voting Obama. I don't bow down to fear mongering or dirty politics.
Posted by: Vicky on Nov 4, 2008 at 09:06 AM
The term "clean coal" is just a political play on words! Our country was built by skilled workers such as coal miners, masons, etc. Our Great Country is also free because of our Veterans who have protected us through history! If not for these great men and women, we would all be fighting off militants trying to take over our homes. Think before you vote today! McCain/Palin O8
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 09:01 AM
hey Wsaz why no mention of the 2 miners injured in a gas explosion yesterday in Fellowship WV anywhere on your web site? Afraid it'll take the air out of this board?
Posted by: Obama the Racist on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:51 AM
Obama the racist check out this video of what his book says about the white race... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6zM5ldO35A&feature=related
Posted by: MamawSharon on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:49 AM
Pray and Vote, Vote and pray. Vote McCain and pray to the Lord Jesus to guide our nation again. He is the ONLY WAY, THE WAY,THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE! Lord Jesus, bless our nation, forgive our sins and give us according to your mercy, not according to our ways. Lord help us all. In Jesus name, AMEN!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:40 AM
Why were my comments not posted? They were in 'no' way offensive. You approve some of the most ridiculous posts possible, yet you censor mine. I'm sending a copy of my comments to the station manager and asking why they were censored and if the station, like most of the mainstream media is in the tank with Obama...or if it's just the person/people in charge of the messageboard.
Posted by: Hunter on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:34 AM
I would not want to be the person that tried to take my guns they will be looking down the wrong end of a one way barrel. Pick white you know its right...Mccain/Palin
Posted by: TJ on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:30 AM
Hey Duh you the stupid one we need our God every day and if obama when we will need our guns as well...Anybody like you is a disgrace to our country...
Posted by: WVMAN on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:28 AM
Obama is a racist just like 90% of the black population.
Posted by: Just Me on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:05 AM
Please make the stupid people shut up.
Posted by: Nikki on Nov 4, 2008 at 08:04 AM
I will be so glad when this election is over and all of the stupid people shut up!
Posted by: JH on Nov 4, 2008 at 07:04 AM
John McCain supports a very similar cap and trade program to Obama's. The cap and trade program basically puts a price each unit of greenhouse gas emissions. New plants that are able to use clean coal technology, once perfected, would not fall under this cap and trade program because they will emit very little greenhouse gases. ONCE AGAIN JOHN MCCAIN SUPPORTS THE SAME EXACT THING. The Republicans are the real liars, McCain has run the dirtiest campaign in history and I for one don't trust someone who will stoop to the levels that he has.
Posted by: Bill on Nov 4, 2008 at 06:58 AM
just one more lying democart
Posted by: jz on Nov 4, 2008 at 05:35 AM
obama is not a muslim
Posted by: jz on Nov 4, 2008 at 05:24 AM
they cant due away with coal impossible
Posted by: cosmo on Nov 4, 2008 at 05:00 AM
Cecil Roberts I trust you about as much as I trust D. Blankenship, I trust him about as much as I could pick him up and throw him, Gov. Manchin, Jay, Byrd, Rahall and the whole bunch of you I'm ashamed of you, you have let the WV people down, big time...
Posted by: dru on Nov 4, 2008 at 01:00 AM
What is with the UMWA? There won't be any coal mining jobs to warrant a union after Obama is elected. And who will they blame when they lose their jobs a couple years from now? ... Bush.
Posted by: jeremy on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Comment: In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama unintentionally revealed that he really is as radical as his early political mentors and acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi etc., (gee, there sure seem to be a lot of them) and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now there is absolute proof. In 2001, Obama, the "community organizer" turned legislator, said in an interview: "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that," http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck 2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview. Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three ov
Posted by: Bible Lady on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:12 AM
If you all want the Moozlums in power go ahead and vote for Hussein Obama. The disciple Nostradamus spoke of the END TIMES and said a man would come from the east with charm and hate coal the lifeblood of West Virginia and would bring about the END TIMES. He has picnic lunches with Ayers and Farrakhan and Osama Bin Laden. The Detroit Weekly News has the footage but won't release it because they want BHO elected so Huntington can officially become Little Detroit in name in spirit. If BHO is elected I'm headin' for the hills and will eat locust and honey cause the END TIMES will be upon us. Who's with me? Say no to END TIMES, vote for McCain and the purty girl.
Posted by: Steve on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:08 AM
AGAIN...the Barack die-hards continue to insult your intelligence, your values, your God, and your way of life. Look down through the posts. How many times do you continue to see them call you "Hillbillies", "illiterates", "racists" etc. How long do you take it. They want you to vote for their candidate, but their strategy is to insult you into compliance? Pay particular attention to Duh on Nov. 3 at 10:44 and Burbal at 5:49. By the way Burbal-Cecil Roberts would sell his and his mother's soul to Satan for a buck.
Posted by: To Duh on Nov 4, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Come on and getcha some.
Posted by: NADER RAIDER on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:58 PM
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARE ALL FRAUDS BUT THE REPUBLICANS ARE SMARTER FRAUDS, THE DEMOCRATS REGISTER LET MICKEY AND GOOFY, AND DEAD PEOPLE VOTE WHILE THE GOP RIGS THE VOTING MACHINES AND WE HAVE NO PAPER TRACE, AS SEEN ON MSNBC. REMEMBER THE POLLS IN FLA IN 2004 KERRY WAS UP 5 AND LOST FLA BY 400,000 VOTES JEB AND HIS CRONIES ARE JUST SMARTER THAN THE STUPIDER DEMOCRATS.AND IF YOU THINK OBAMA BIN LADEN HAS THIS RAPED UP YOU BETTER SEE THE VIDEO I SAW OF THESE CROOKED GOP COMPUTER GEEKS IN FLA, OHIO, AND PA I SAW ON TV, GOD HELP THIS NATION IF MAC STEALS THIS ONE, HAVE A FUNNY FEELING ABOUT TOMORROW.
Posted by: JILL RODGERS on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Forrest were MADE BY GODS DECREE BUT ONLY HUSSEIN WOULD TAX A TREE, SO CITIZENS PLEASE PUT DOWN YOUR AX VOTE FOR MAC AND STOP THE TAX. REMEMBER THIS ONE(CLEVE BENEDICT) FAYETTE DEMOCRAT FOR MCCAIN.
Posted by: Jean on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Look just because our UMWA President choose for the union to back Obama doesn't mean that the miners themselves back Obama. And the comment about people from WV needing to get an education we are not all uneducated just because you think so maybe you should get one yourself before you make comments about others. We have 100;s if not 1000's of college graduates working in the mines and the mining industry.
Posted by: PleaseThink on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:33 PM
I have learned a couple useful things this election cycle. Women's rights groups only really want equal rights for liberal women. And Union Leaders really only want whatever it is that liberal politicians want. For God's sake wake up and smell the coffee America. Think and act for yourself, you don't need any organization to get involved in your thinking... that is probably the only thing you can keep for sure, if you choose to keep it. Who is Cecil Roberts anyway, does he put his pants on different than the rest of you? What is it? Think and Act for yourself and your family. That my friends is true liberty.
Posted by: Josephine the Plummer on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:30 PM
I have 3 words for all you Obama fans out there...Wake up People" We were born at night but it wasn't last night in Kenya! I urge you to read your bibles Revolations and pray about this before you cast your votes on Tuesday...This man is a con artist and he is conning the whole nation. The US citizens are not this stupid, we are a smart nation and have to stop this Robin Hood as he is just a catoon character!!!!! McCain08 McCain 08
Posted by: mse on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:15 PM
McCain and Obama support the same "clean coal" technology. Google or YouTube 'voinovich mccain coal'.
Posted by: another democrat voting republican on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM
stupid people.
Posted by: J on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:02 PM
What are all you miners gonna do when you don't have a job? Is Cecil gonna help you? Maybe someone should tell cecil and Jay rock. that these moving picture boxes and magical machines that connect with intertubes allow people to see and hear obama's words for themselves. I personally don't care if the union is gone or not. my job is not dependent. but when energy bills triple under obama, remember who made it happen, all you ignorant dems.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:01 PM
9/7/08 on meet the press obama admitted to burning the flag i think obama is bipola one day he is up the next he is down
Posted by: Duh on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Since when does Illinois border Ohio? You ignorant, racist, semi-literate WV hillbillies ought to take your guns and your god and stick them where the sun doesn't shine.
Posted by: Janette on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Hay sad day, That's part of the problem now here in WV, Rockefeller is not from WV and not a democrat. He has just used WV like Cecil Roberts has used the UMWA! They all want to use the citizens of the entire country now for their own benifits. Steve if Obama was a Socialist, what would you call him now! Maybe there isn't a name for something like this! WV you can't take this chance! Why would want to anyways for right now! McCain/Palin/Weeks/Wolfe and you will see a real change for the better!
Posted by: Why I'm Voting DEMOCRAT, Continued on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Obama’s 143 real days of service in the US Senate certainly qualifies him to be President and Commander in Chief. Even though no retail chain store (such as Nordstrom’s, etc) or college/university would accept him as CEO with only 143 days service as a salesman or untenured professor. After all, just what do you expect from retail stores who should not really be making money or colleges and universities where they spend all of their time in the proverbial “think tank”.Obama’s mind is not clouded with too much information, such as he would have if he had actually been say a Governor of a State, Mayor of a community or Executive with some Fortune 500 company. There is a lot to be said for being overly qualified.I believe businesses in America should not be allowed to make profits. Businesses should just break even, that's all they need, and give the rest to the government so politicians and bureaucrats can redistribute the money the way they think it should be redistributed. Thanks.
Posted by: Why I'm Voting DEMOCRAT on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I'd rather pay $5 for a gallon of gas than allow drilling for oil off the coasts of America.I think the government will do a better job of spending my money than I could. Redistribution of the wealth is a good thing. I mean, just look at how well the Government now handles Social Security, Medicare and collecting our taxes via the IRS. Certainly the Government has done such a wonderful job with Medicare that they can handle health care for all Americans far better than the private sector.I believe people who can't tell us if it will rain in two or three days, can now tell us the polar ice caps will disappear in ten years if I don't start riding a bicycle, build a windmill and inflate my tires to proper levels. It's all right to kill millions of babies as long as we keep violent, convicted murderers on death row alive for 20 years or commute their sentences to be rehabilitated into society. I can now marry whatever I want, so I've decided to marry my Prius Hybrid. Thanks.
Posted by: to jz- You Can't Handle the Truth! on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:02 PM
What part of the truth do you have a problem with? That is all that is coming out. What part of "REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH" don't you get? What part of socialist communist Marxist don't you get? Those are truths. Don't you remember Biden saying he was against clean coal technology? I think you need to reread some of the truths out there. You must be one of the 40% of the pop. that doesn't pay taxes and wants the rest of us to take care of your sorry tail while you eat bonbons and watch soaps. His policies have failed in Russia, Cuba, China, Germany (Hitler) and many other places. Please educate yourself before you vote. What part of BANKRUPTING THE COAL INDUSTRY don't you get? how can you make better plants if you are BANKRUPT! TO WSAZ... thank you for your consistency in being pro-Obama and not being fair and balanced. You truly have tried to defend Obama on every issue.
Posted by: GOPOHIO on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:14 PM
The one! as Oprah called him, the messiah, as Farrakhan called him on you tube. I call him Satan! Barack Hussain Obama and company has plans to bring our country down. Imagine not being able to own a gun, or watch the news channel of your choice. Imagine not being able to watch any Christian television. Imagine having our constitution thrown out for Communism. Yes COMMUNISM! His mentor, Frank Davis, has taught him how to be a communist since he was a child. These devils have pruned this liar for decades. They have our future planned out for us. Imagine in the coal states, no jobs, no income, no guns, no freedoms of anykind. You complain about Fox news then watch you tube people! Farrakhan, Rev. Wright, Obama, ayers, all the videos are on there to prove what these devils have planned for our nation. GOD HAVE MERCY ON AMERICA, AND THE THINGS THAT OUR FOREFATHERS STOOD FOR, FOR US TO BE FREE. IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
Posted by: Ray on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:02 PM
This is so shocking I can hardly believe it, another sound bite taken as gospel. This is the link to the full interview. Good or bad here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8m_1bnBw9w&feature=related
Posted by: TO SAD DAY on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:02 PM
SO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA CAUSE HIS GRANDMAL DIED?? LOL YOUR NUTS!!
Posted by: Factfinder on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:00 PM
Under Panamanian law, McCain is a naturally born Panamanian citizen. Panama never recognized the Canal Zone as part of a foreign nation but regards it as having always been part of Panama, but under foreign occupation. As such, McCain is fully entitled to run for President of the Republic of Panama during the upcoming May 2009 elections. Instead of returning to Arizona, as the candidate recently stated he would do after losing in November, he should consider putting his country first and move his campaign down south.
Posted by: candy on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:58 PM
wake up people obama is made pres. will be the down fall of the usa . he not for amercian people . he turn the usa in to a third world .do we want that , no we dont . so dont vote for obama .
Posted by: Brian on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:52 PM
Everything Obama does is taken out of context, to hear his campaign tell it. There is no way his comments can be twisted to make them look pro-coal. He was pandering to the San Francisco crowd and telling them what they wanted to hear, just as he does routinely all over the country. I am so disappointed that all of these things Obama and his crazy wife say just don't have an impact. How can someone so anti-American become the next President of the United States?
Posted by: Simple Simon on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:36 PM
Wow. Over 400 comments from ignorant hicks. The GOP is very manipulative and knew what to release right before the election to affect the masses who vote on raw emotion and with little research. I am impressed. This is the Swift Boat Vets redux. McCain has learned dirty politicking very well from Bush and his cronies.
Posted by: Wendy on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:32 PM
has anybody noticed that he alwasy says "change is what we need" but he never really elaborates. I keep my money and you can keep your filthy change Obama.
Posted by: Matt on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:30 PM
In the first place, McCain and Palin didn't fabricate the Obama/coal story, and in the second place, I'm starting to wonder if it were revealed that Obama was actually the devil - would it make any difference to all the Obama Kool-aid drinkers?
Posted by: Ronald G. on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:23 PM
Steve, you know all of our unions are socialist as well. Read history of the the early 1900s and the movement for unionization. Strikers were shot and killed while unarmed. The newspapers headlines spokes of "antagonizers" and communist ties. All because they wanted an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. This was also the movement for an 8 hour day instead of working employees until they died and then just replacing them with another poor immigrant and discarding the body. Many strikers and members of unions were convicted of trumped up charges during WWI only to be cleared of any wrongdoing when the war was over and the United States began thinking clearly again. The good that these socialists did is still felt in today's workforce by higher pay, safer conditions, and less corruption by corporate greed. You should thank your local socialist for these improvements. Maybe read some history while your at it. Stuff they don't teach at high school level.
Posted by: Kim on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:57 PM
West Virginia,the nation is counting on your wisdom to see through Obama's rhetoric and help us elect the only man with the character and experience to lead America through these times,JOHN MCCAIN.Every time Obama travels around the country,he caters to what he thinks they want to hear,and trashes the rest of us,like his comment about those people in PA "clinging to their guns and Bibles".Don't let a smooth talking lawyer deceive you into thinking he's capable of handling the presidency.If he wants to wait it out,send him back to the Senate to see if he can actually show up to vote instead of voting "PRESENT".There aren't any present votes as president,and John McCain is tested and can work with both parties.Obama wants to put restraints on your secret bsllot and squelch free speech,as well as desimate the Constitution.Tell the media that Democracy can't be bought with Obama's millions.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:29 PM
obama granmother mother has passed away and he is still here asking for votes it will be interesting to see who go's or shows up at her awake i love my granmother she is my rock if she passed away i would drop every thing and go
Posted by: Steve on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:09 PM
Obama was a Socialist or had very close ties to them, may still be. Scroll down to archived documents once the page loads. The archived documents from the New People Party show he was a member or had very close ties to them. Just load the page and check out the New Party Newsletter that was archived on another site.----------- http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/10/021724.php
Posted by: Burbal on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:49 PM
Guess all the fired up miners failed to read the rest of the story and Cecil Roberts' comments showing his support for Obama. Maybe bankrupting the coal industry would be a good thing after all. Then maybe the miners and wives would have a reason to get an education beyond a secondary education.
Posted by: Bob on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:36 PM
http://www.umwa.org/index.php?q=news/mccain-campaign%E2%80%99s-last-minute-distortion-obama%E2%80%99s-coal-record-act-desperation United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) International President Cecil E. Roberts issued the following statement today: “Sen. John McCain and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, have once again demonstrated that they are willing to say anything and do anything to win this election. Their latest twisting of the truth is about coal and some comments Sen. Obama made last January about the future use of coal in America. Read the whole statement. http://www.umwa.org/index.php?q=news/mccain-campaign%E2%80%99s-last-minute-distortion-obama%E2%80%99s-coal-record-act-desperation
Posted by: Dee on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Another repub administration will KILL the majority of Americans, their policies of give to rich to "trickle down" to the rest is and has always been a failure. I've always heard the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and to expect a different result. All of the 2000 and 2004 agendas are BIG failures. so that makes all you supporters insane. Maybe you should go and illegally tape people like McConnell and see if you can furthur your agendas. Any hourly paid American who votes for Repubs is a sucker for punishment. These people are losers and they're costing everyone dearly. You people are morons. Coal is going to be a bygone product, like it or lump it, learn another skill and stop poisoning everyone including yourselves, idiots.
Posted by: sad day on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Seems everyone likes to ignore WhatsThis and the full comments made by Obama backed with his support of a bill which shows his support of the coal industry. He was born in Hawaii, but he's "from" Illinois (represents them...like Rockefeller is "from" WV as a Senator). Illinois is a coal state and borders Ohio. How could anyone fall for such a cheap ploy by the Right. This comment was made months back and they are just now trying to use it. Well, I also wanted to let you know Obama's grandmother died today. Think about that when you go vote. Your hurtful and misrepresented comments are the cause.
Posted by: anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:03 PM
yeah people listen to our governor and obama see where it gets west virginia. how dumb can you be, he's been saying this for a while now, i saw the whole thing not just some "context". McCain better get elected if you want west virginia to survive. here this Joe Manchin
Posted by: Kelly on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:57 PM
God forbid Obama wants to find a way to clean up the coal industry so we don't conitnue to pollute our environment!!No, people aren't trying to tell you what he really means, just listen to the whole statement and it's pretty clear. I for one would like to leave my children a cleaner earth, I guess that's a bad thing for McCain supporters? By the way, my uncle is the president of his coal minning union in KY, and he sent me a shirt that says,"United Mine Workers of America for Obama-Biden". Somehow don't think the mine workers would be for someone who wanted to bankrupt them! Use your brain!
Posted by: Concerned on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:46 PM
I'm very disappointed in our Governor. We need him to stick up for us.
Posted by: sambo on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:45 PM
ALL I GOT TO SAY IS HE'S NOTHING BUT A CRUKE!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought people was complaining about not having a enough "JOBS".
Posted by: linda on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:44 PM
Hey get on youtube you West Virginians and listen to obama making fun of the bible. Just go to youtube and type in Obama making fun of christians and you will see and hear it. The American people are being deceived. Wake up!
Posted by: wvu on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:39 PM
The great socialist revolution is upon us my friends. Hide your wallet and hide your guns. This country is so blind to the fact and will deserve every bit it gets in the next 4-8yrs. God help America!
Posted by: William on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:36 PM
Defeat Obama... he will not only bankrupt the Coal industry, but will bankrupt America. His tax and spend policies will cause a long recession, and tax people to death, plus skyrocket energy prices.
Posted by: RoaneCo. on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Why is it that these bible thumping republicans will be the first to say "your taking it out of context" when someone disagrees with them over the bible, but yet they (republicans) can take Obama's comments out of context and spread it around as the gospel? Typical republican hypocrites!!
Posted by: Maureen on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:29 PM
America's electricity comes from COAL. We have MORE COAL than Saudi Arabia HAS OIL. Speaking of COAL, Obama said, "Under MY plan, the 'Cap & Trade System', ELECTRICITY rates WOULD NECESSARILY SKYROCKET." *~*~HIS PLAN: ELECTRIC RATES SKYROCKET~*~* WE CAN'T AFFORD HIM OR HIS PLANS! The MOST ACCURATE POLL OF 2004: IBD, John McCain is AHEAD BY 2% among INDEPENDENTS! Don't listen to the lefty Media polls that say Obama is going to win. Go VOTE for McCain: a Hero not a Zero! Why is it every time a tape of Obama contradicting himself GETS LEAKED, he cries, "But it was TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!"? And of EVERY one of HIS RACIST, TERRORIST, or CRIMINAL associates, Obama says, "He is JUST a guy in MY neighborhood" or "MY kids go to the SAME school as HIS kids" For many many years he has lived in a neighborhood,attended a church & sent his kids to schools FULL OF TERRORISTS, RACISTS & CRIMINALS. I WOULD'VE MOVED. HE DIDN'T. HE'S NOT ABOUT HOPE & CHANGE-- HE'S ABOUT SECRETS & LIES. RUN!
Posted by: Raven on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:16 PM
OHIO WEST VIRGINIA PENN. LISTEN VERY CLOSELY TO THIS VIDEO-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
Posted by: Mavis on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:14 PM
Tell me how a "bankrupt" industry invests in R&D? Tell me how a struggling economy pays "skyrocketing" electricity prices? Obama is smoke and mirrors, and no matter how his campaign says his words were taken out of context they were HIS words. Wake up. He is smoke and mirrors. A tax credit is not the same as a job.
Posted by: jz on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:13 PM
mccain and palin have run a very below the belt campayne with palin throwing most of the punches,bgut obama is too clean for that kind of stuff,he sticks to the issues he can take the lies and name calling for another day,but can u take four more years of mcsame/bush and a hocky mom that can see russia both are stupid take you pick. mcsaim is 72 and if he dies in office then u got the hocky mom in the prez. seat,what a kooky,kook
Posted by: BUCKEYE COAL MINER on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:04 PM
Cecil Roberts, you are more full of hot air than the Good Year blimp... your not for coal miners and their families... you are for Cecil Roberts
Posted by: Amanda on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Are you serious? First of all, it doesn't matter what color he is, he is a liar and an idiot. Everyone who votes for him is an idiot. Coal is what supports the majority of our families, and you could vote for a man who has no problem bankrupting that entire industry? I don't believe that it was taken out of context when those were the words that came from his mouth. Go ahead, vote him in, but don't complain when you are out of a job.
Posted by: Leviticus on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:59 PM
I think Obama does mean that he wants a transition to take place. I think He wants to enforce a change in the energy industry by bankrupting the Coal Industry. He is not going to allow more nuclear or technologies that are cleaner. He is not going to wait for Technology to find a way. He is going to Make US find a way by depriving us of energy. I'm voting for a more candidate who lives in the REAL World. I am Voting McCain.
Posted by: To: OMG on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:49 PM
Dear OMG, We fully understand why you are voting for Obama. You need to use a dictionary, or at least spell checker before you post comments. It is VINYL not VINAL, DUMB, not DUMM and FALL not FAIL, geez!!! Please, if you want to be taken seriously get some grammar skills! I guess if Obama wins we will no longer have a need for coal, power plants, the military, money, food, cars, because we will all be living in a fairytale world where everything is PERFECT!!! haha. HILARIOUS! Obama is a JOKE 2008!
Posted by: Willnevergiveup on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:46 PM
There are other issues that have come under fire with Obama -- but the press isn't reporting. Don't take my word for it. Watch the short videos and see for yourself. The videos can be seen at http://willnevergiveup.wordpress.com
Posted by: Diane on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:46 PM
Cant believe these idiots, please dont let the rest of the world see how stupid we really are. Even with all this against Obama you people are acting like he is so special and everyone just wants to tell lies on him. Govenor of WV is the biggest idiot of all, he should know how important coal is to WV. I agree that people are using there hate for George Bush by voting for Obama but please dont be so blind. He is not worth the risk. NO MUSLIM IN THE WHITEHOUSE ! We are at war with them.
Posted by: To Kris on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Now we're putting words into the candidates mouth for him. The quote could read like this: "[I am totally against clean coal technology. My VP Biden has already told you that.] If somebody wants to build a [traditional, dirty] coal plant..." See, it works both ways, but at least Biden backs my way up.
Posted by: To OMG on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Nice try! but your arguement is apples and oranges. The CD industry and "Vynly industry" have nothing to do with this. And nice try using OBAMA's words and insinuating they are McCain's (The quote you used is Obama's)
Posted by: To Peacemaker on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:37 PM
So we have a warrior, wounded for his country against a coward who has been ashamed and embarrassed to be an American. A man who fought for your freedom to be what you wanted to be against a man who wants you to be what HE wants you to be. A man who committed adultry, but sought forgiveness from God for this sin against a man who voted 4 times to let babies die on a table, refusing medical aid or comfort. A man who was aquitted by the lead investigater of ANY wrongdoing in 1998 against a man whose 'friends' include a racist, America hating preacher, a homegrown unrepented terrorist(Bill Ayers), a Muslim who calls for the end of Isreal and the white race(Farrakan), and others. A man who called for regulation of the housing industry against a man who said "NO" & continued to line his pockets. A man w/ decades of experience w/ a running mate with more executive exp than any of them against a man who organized a community and a loose cannon. A man of integrity against a Liar. Vote McCain!
Posted by: Pam on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:36 PM
I used to say I was proud to be from WV now I say I'm proud to have left WV. How can you people believe everything you read? How about doing some research. Also, how can good God fearing people vote for a man who cheated on his crippled wife and left her for a "pretty young thang"? I will be very proud to cast my vote for Obama/Biden tomorrow and will spend the day praying for the ones who don't.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:34 PM
I have to say that I'm not surprised about the newest "slip" by BHO. I worked for Hillary's campaign in the primary. I got to meet both Hillary and Bill Clinton. I support them, not the extremism of BHO. I have been a life-long Democrat and my party threw my vote under the bus. They will NEVER get a blind vote from me ever again. Our state leadership let the people down tremendously. They will NEVER get my vote. I went and voted Republican for the first time in a national primary on Saturday. Believe me, it didn't feel that bad. Come and join me at www.pumapac.org ! We have such a large number of people that you can have a decent discussion with rather than the people that have "drank the koolaid" for BHO! GO MCCAIN/PALIN '08!!!!
Posted by: To Bob Wolf on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Thanks for not letting me down, Bob. I was waiting to see how long it would take for someone to try to bully on this thread using race, even when the story, nor the discussion has nothing to do with Race. You guys are lowlofe scum...trying to "bully" people into voting for an idiot simply to keep from feeling "guilty."
Posted by: Country on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Born and raised in WV, now an Air Force Officer. My father was in the coal business in the 80s. If you remember the fall of coal then, the same will happen under Obama. Clean coal is the future. WV can profit greatly. Miners can thrive again. Manchin has done nothing for WV, don't listen to him. Only the uneducated will vote for Obama. Don't even get me started on National Defense.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:08 PM
It's unreal! The republican campaign will stop at nothing to fill the American public full of fear to gain votes. The UMWA is supporting Obama/Biden, people!! Do you honestly think they would support a ticket if it were going to "bankrupt" their livelihood? Palin, because using Obama's words out of context were not enough, is even distorting those words saying that Obama promises to bankrupt the whole coal industry all together!! Please, people! Look at this race. If a candidate has to rely on lies and taking statements out of context, and distorting words, what are they standing on? Nothing as I see it. They have nothing to stand on! VOTE!! OBAMA/BIDEN '08
Posted by: PAS on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:06 PM
MCCAIN O8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:58 PM
VOTE FOR McCAIN & PALIN- they are for coal!
Posted by: Steve B on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:49 PM
How can stupid obamaniacs claim the republicans are twisting his words. HE SAID THEM. I BELIEVE HIM! He wants to appease the greens even if the economy collapses.
Posted by: Ernest T. Buddin on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:47 PM
Amy on Nov. 3, when referring to mccain do you also use his middle name? Just curious if your use of the H for Hussein is supposed to subliminally make us vote for johnny boy.
Posted by: JAMAUL on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:31 PM
LET THE WHITEMAN LOSE HIS JOB HE DESERVES TO HAVE TO WORK FOR US. OUR ANCESTERS WERE TREATED LIKE DOGS BY THE WHITE MAN AND NOW WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON OUR SIDE. I HOPE HE DOES SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND AND THE WHITEMAN DOES HAVE TO BUY MY HOUSE, MY CLOTHES, MY CAR, MY MEDICAL THEY SHOULD AS MUCH PROBLEMS AS THEY HAVE CAUSED US. OBAMA IS OUR VOICE AND THE NEW REVALUTION.
Posted by: JOSH on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:12 PM
ANYBODY THAT VOTES FOR OBAMA ARE IDIOTS.THIS GUY IS A LIAR.AND FOR JOE MANCHIN TO TAKE UP FOR HIM WE ALL KNOW THAT JOE HELPED IS DAUGHTER GET A DIPLOMA NOT MAD BECAUSE HE DID TO BE FAIR EVERY IN WVA SHOULD GET ONE.
Posted by: Heather on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:03 PM
I hope we make the right decision as a country. I pray that we make the right choice, because once we know our new President, there's no turning back.
Posted by: lou lou on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:00 PM
To Harry 11/3 at 12:27 - If you are going to insult the people of West Virginia by calling us idiots, the least you can do is learn proper English. I don't like either candidate. Whoever wins, I'll still be afraid of what the future will bring.
Posted by: Poynt on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:56 PM
Gotta love the argument here: "The McCain camp is misrepresenting Obama's coal comments." In other words: "Don't judge Obama by what he says, just listen to us tell you what he really means... just IGNORE HIS OWN WORDS!" Pure genius, not.
Posted by: WhatsThis? on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:51 PM
What the McCain camp is not giving you from the original tape: Obama: "But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon." Obama Passed An Amendment Supported by Biden To Add $200M For Carbon Capture And Sequestration Technology In Senate's FY 2008 Budget. Obama was the chief sponsor of an amendment to the 2008 Senate Budget resolution that added $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy. [SA 599 to SCR 21, Agreed to by Unanimous Consent, 3/23/07] Source: http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=43762b42-8e1c-4ad9-9a0e-3c63383449fb
Posted by: ~T~ on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:22 PM
I pray God is with us all tomorrow while we try to vote for the lesser of 2 evils! GOD BLESS AMERICA! We need it now more than ever.
Posted by: MrObvious on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:21 PM
Ohmigosh, now the Governor is ignoring the full text and recording of this interview by saying that it was "taken out of context?" What more "context" do you need other than his complete statement? This is just utterly ridiculous. How dumb do they think the people of this country are? Ignore the man behind the curtain, I am OZ, the great. Geesh, some of y'all wouldn't see the truth if it walked up and waved in your face.
Posted by: Peacemaker on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:14 PM
So we have a warrior against a man of peace.We have a man who has blood on his hands and a man of peace.We have a man born in wealth and position,and a man born poor and of mixed race.We have a man who morals let him commit adultery,and a man who of God who is married and respects this law of God.We have a man of a criminal pastwho was publicly shamed on the floor of Congress for acts helping in defrauding old people of their savings in 1998.And a man who worked for free on public programs.We have a man of 72 with a history of anger and temper problems,health problems,4 cancer operations,memory problem and a VP he chose that is a great hockey mom and can see Russia from her house ready to take command of the worlds greatest power in the blink of a heartbeat. We have a man of sound mental and health,a man with a degree in law,a teacher of the Constitution in Collage classes,a man able who use's reason before attacking on false info of WMD's.
Posted by: Bob Wolf on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:13 PM
I don't know, but a whole bunch of you West Virginians just sound plain racist. Shame. You all *and* coal technology need to move into the 21st century or get left behind.
Posted by: Idon'tgetit on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:59 PM
This country has suffered eight years of Bush and you want to make it twelve?
Posted by: BornHoosier on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM
There's nothing in Obama's comment related to first inspecting the Coal Plants, and THEN forcing technology updates. He outright does discuss the fact that IT WILL COST THEM - this means they are counting on using the Energy Industry to force more Homeowners to be UNable to keep their homes due to the escalating Utility Bills that they (Obama) can manipulate - remember, Al Gore's energy consumption is $2,500/month (during the summer months alone). Yet, Obama speaks nothing about this gluttony by one of his own Party. This discussion about COAL is also aimed straight at Wall Street, too - if you think otherwise, you are completely lost. You cannot be a supporter and then make such comments. Democrats have ALWAYS made one comment in one State - then traveled elsewhere & spoken just the opposite - telling Voters "what they want to hear" ... like a Used Car Salesman - VOTERS SIMPLY MUST GROW UP - NEVER TRUST THE MEDIA - START DOING YOU OWN HOMEWORK, for Christ's sake!
Posted by: OMG on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Did the CD industry bankrupt the Vinal Record industy? No! Just new technology! All he said is that it will cost them more to use out dated technology. John Mc said the same thing in the debate. "So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted." Another show of desperation to scare the people in OHIO...I wonder if they a dumm enough to fail for it?
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:51 PM
What about Greenhouse effect? If we choose McCain Greenhouse effect one day we are all gonna persih in a huge trpical storm...
Posted by: Pat on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Obama has not hidden (very well) his true beliefs or his true agenda. Of course the mainstream media has done all in its power to do this for him; but anyone can find ample evidence of Obama's socialist ideology with just a little digging. Unfortunately, Bush backlash, a very weak Republican nominee and an exceedingly uninformed/misinformed mass of voters all combine to make Obama a shoe-in for president tomorrow. If Obama's presidency is accompanied by super majorities in the house and senate, and if he is able to nominate a single supreme court justice, the pain will be great indeed. I hate to say it, but in a sense, America deserves what is coming. I can only hope that a sustained, conservative backlash will be able to undo the damage that we are oh so close to realizing.
Posted by: Kris on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:50 PM
I think he was talking about his support for "clean coal." The quote could read like this: "[I would promote clean coal technology.] If somebody wants to build a [traditional, dirty] coal plant..."
Posted by: His words on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:48 PM
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.” Obama said, “That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in wind, solar, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches. The only thing that I have said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.”
Posted by: Amy on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:47 PM
It's people like GARY on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:22 AM who will be putting BHO in office! Call it what you want--THAT is racism!
Posted by: Aaron on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:45 PM
I love president Obama
Posted by: Robert on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Not only will the coal industry go down the tubes, but so will the electricity generating industry. Obama on a continuation of the tape says "Electricity prices will necessarily Skyrocket" sounds like we are are headed for a third world nation status with power rationing and high prices for it. Scary is all I can say.
Posted by: Bob on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:43 PM
he McCain camp is misrepresenting Obama's coal comments. In fact, McCain and Obama hold the same position on coal. What the McCain camp is not giving you from the original tape: Obama: "But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon." Obama and Biden on Clean Coal: Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology. Carbon capture and storage technologies hold enormous potential to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions as we power our economy with domestically produced and secure energy. As a U.S. Senator, Obama has worked tirelessly to ensure that clean coal technology becomes commercialized. An Obama administration will provide incentives to accelerate private sector investment in commercial scale zero-carbon coal facilities.
Posted by: To those who still cling to the Obama on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:39 PM
What denial! It's ridiculous. Joe Biden said no coal and Obama spoke out against the coal industry and yet you STILL try to defend him. WHY??? Because he makes up a big LIE every time he gets caught being who he truly is, and you buy it hook, line, and sinker. There's an old saying that goes: "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME!" Come on people, start using some sense. This guy is a LIAR, a Thug, and is NOT what America needs...especially right now!
Posted by: Derek D on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:38 PM
It is sad but not surprising to hear these comments. If you've heard more than just the individual words, you've probably figured out that Obama's belief is that he should have complete control over wealth, energy and business, and appropriate it as he sees fit. He has also made it clear that those who support him in this will stand to gain and those who do not will lose. If you are ready to turn over your personal wealth and national sovereignty to such a man, all I can say is good luck. Coal provides cheap efficient energy to the significant portion of our population. Losing that is a MUCH MUCH greater threat than CO2 (a life giving gas), or the greatest Socialist-tax-and-subsidy-scam-of-all-time: Global Warming. So while Florida gets frost in October, the All-Entitled one brags about bringing down our most viable energy providers. This is the man and the plan that many Americans seem to think will save us. Now more than ever: God Bless America...PLEASE! We'll need it!!
Posted by: MamawSharon on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Hey out there, listen up. I would not care to bet that Obama has never had his hands dirty from coal or anything like that, or from being in a war with all the dirt and grim and emotional turmoil that Senator McCain has. McCain understands the need to keep coal production up and get it up even higher in these rough times. WV, Ohio and Pennsylvania all are willing and ready to accomodate this need. Obama, does not care about coal, our region or our country. He is a Gore wannna be, and is not for us. He is using some more of his poor judgement, but this time it concerns coal, before it was drilling for oil. I am beginning to wonder if gas is also off the table as an option for this nucklehead. The decision is clear. Ohio, WV and Pennsylvania and any other state that produces coal, Vote MCCain 08..God Bless us all, God Bless the USA, God Bless the coal miners and their families. Stand up for coal and for our families, Vote McCain!
Posted by: southern wv coal on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:32 PM
i wonder if the UMWA is still endorsing him? haha im sure this is only the first of many stories like this that will surface. thanks for supporting the class obama! save the polar bears and the ice caps! who cares about joe the plumber!
Posted by: Carl Marks on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:31 PM
This comment thread has been DRUDGED. *dons tinfoil hat*
Posted by: MrObvious on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:30 PM
I have a feeling that Obama could walk right up to most of these supporters here and tell the total truth about his plan to bankrupt the coal industry, spread the wealth, and raise taxes and they would still say that it was all Republican lies...oh, wait, he HAS SAID all those things, multiple times, yet they refuse to hear it! How is that a Republican Lie? Stop letting your hatred of George Bush blind you into following Obama down the Marxism highway.
Posted by: NOBAMA! on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Response to GARY (FIRST ALL CAPS IS ANNOYING!) second you want to be done with the "White Man's Rule" get and education and get a job. I know numerous completely incredible african american men and women who have done this. They have become doctors, lawyers and teachers and guess what I know them as my friends, life savers and equals. They don't complain that life is tough for an african american they live life to it's absolute fullest overcoming obstacles that get in their way. What did white's do for your ancestors except remove them from a war torn tribal land and put them in a land of opportunity. Slavery was wrong on every level but its gone... Get over it and get and education! When you shoot for the bottom step you will hit it every time, shoot for the stars and stop blaming "Whitey" for your problems as you need to look no further than the mirror for your self imposed slavery!
Posted by: JJGH on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Obama has run a compaign based on seduction and deception and lies, similar to Hitler's rise to power. He's a polarizer, not a unifier. Obama shouldn't even get 10% of the vote. No true patriot, Jew, Christian, member or another faith (except black liberation theology), economist, military person, engineer, cop, capitalist, atheist, housewife, blue collar worker, college student, etc. should give him a vote. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. In other words get ready for a nightmare. Don't rely on the government or even your church for help in time of need. Start preparing. Churches & synagogues not going apostate need to stop any building plans, sell real estate (at a loss) and start stocking up on food and survival items for their members. Larger places of worship need to break up into smaller units.
Posted by: Lawrence on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:18 PM
This man is a fraud. A media invention. I stood in line yaterday with hundreds of chanting, giddy DELUDED obamabots. It was almost unbearable to have to stand there and listen to his name chanted over and over again. I could not WAIT to cast my vote for McCain. And I am a BLACK man! At church, after service all the talk was about obama. I told one of the memebrs that if she showed even one-half the enthusiam for evangelism that she has shown for the Obamanation, maybe our congregation would be growing instead of declining. SHUT HER RIGHT UP!! LOL!!! I told another man that he must have an obession problem. I have never heard him talk about his wife and children with the same ardor that he spews out over the Obamantion. SHUT HIM RIGHT UP! When another member offered me info about the Obamanation, I told her I aleady have a Messiah. The look on her face was PRICELESS!!!! Gotta have a sense of humor when daling with these deluded cultists you know...
Posted by: Erin on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Here we go with misleading claims. check out the youtube video of JOHN MCCAIN SAYING HIMSELF 'McCain's plan to fight global warming would "put coal out of business." Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP6iqcrHvsE
Posted by: k on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:09 PM
If people still want to vote Obama in WV, KY and southern OH after this, you must be stupid!!! These areas of the country are already impoverished enough! What kind of good paying jobs can you get in our area of the country? Coal mining is one of the major industries in the area. Can the Tri-state deal with this type of job loss. WV has already lost tons of young people to NC, GA and Cinncinati and Columbus...imagine what would be left...You think your state is poor now...it will only get worse. Businesses will close, kids will move out of schools because their parents can't find work. There will be nothing left and WV will have to find some other way of attracting more people in. Can we afford this? Besides you complain now about gas and electric bills, do you realize that electricity requires the use of coal? 50% of electricity's power comes from coal. Can you imagine the price of next years utility bills!!! Obama is only for himself, not Joe the plumber or Joe the Coal Miner
Posted by: YankeeBill on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:08 PM
The Idiot Obama will totally destroy this country if he is EVER elected!!! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of jobs will be lost! Can he be trusted to tell the truth about ANYTHING???????? CRICKETS CHIRPING!
Posted by: EnviroMatt on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Yet another issue that will likely be passed over by the media & much of the American public who are Brain Washed by Obama et. al. I've been trying to have rational discourse about Obama's radical views and lack of experience with a bright, educated older sibling who just can't see the forest through the trees. All she sees is the nice, clean campaign he's run, how bad Bush has been, and what a great speaker Barry is (when it's scripted & planned). She's been brain washed by our media and generic O to the point that it is scary. There are dozens of reasons not to vote for Obama, this coal issue just being one more. People like my big sis, you have 24-hours to wake up! HELLO?
Posted by: OhioCoal on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:05 PM
"Regardless of the timing or method of the release of these remarks, the message from the Democratic candidate for President could not be clearer: the Obama-Biden ticket spells disaster for America's coal industry and the tens of thousands of Americans who work in it. --- quote from Mike Carey, president of the Ohio Coal Association
Posted by: HELP on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:03 PM
That ain't all Obama will bankrupt.
Posted by: WVforOBAMA on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:02 PM
I have read all the comments here and listened to and read the interview. He does not intend to end coal production. People in our state wonder why the rest of the country looks at us like idiots, this is the reason. YOU will believe anything that is told to you two days before the election. Can you seriuosly think this is not a repeat of 8 years ago? Do whatever it takes to get elected. What about the President's push to get regulations changed before he leaves office so it will benefit him and Cheney after they leave? Oh I forgot that is ok. I was driving to Logan County and I saw the dumbest sign ever. IF you want to vote for McCain, do it because you believe in his positions on matters, not that he has stated him, but don't vote for him because you believe the lies about Obama. That is what is wrong with our state and country. My father was a coal miner for 40 years, coal supported our family and I can promise you that he would vote for OBAMA if he were alive.
Posted by: joe on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM
yawn. i was in west virginia once. then i left.
Posted by: Lorri on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Has anyone noticed the third and fourth sentences of this article. "Sunday, comments resurfaced from a taped interview Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama did with the San Francisco Chronicle in January. In the interview, which has been available online for months, Obama talks about the importance of coal." They so clearly show how completely the press has fallen down on the job when it comes to Barack Obama. The really scary part is that if they'd been doing their jobs this information would have been publicized long before now, not after a great many people have already voted. What a sham the mainstream media has become!
Posted by: Larry on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Knew this 2 months ago, called local stations. Sent info, OHIO TV held all back on their own local listeners!
Posted by: JOE PLUMBER on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Mccain/Palin has made me ashamed of being a republican. I never thought I would ever vote for a dem, but there desparation in trying to shmear obama has been downright wrong. particly in my neck of the woods!!
Posted by: Shane on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:57 AM
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR MUSLIM FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR TAXES FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR COAL FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR When will you people stop being afraid? Stop learning everything second, third, and fourth hand. Use your brains.
Posted by: Rick on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Dictators can do as they please! The Coal industry and the areas that depend on it are expendable. HEIL O! Americans it is time to be scared; very, very scared.
Posted by: morgan on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM
You people are a crack up. The anti christ? A communist? It's these kind of comments that make the "liberal elite" think of you as backward hicks. I used to call myself a republican but after Bush has decimated so many different areas of this country how can you be surprised that people are just sick of Republicans? If you had any brains you would have voted for Ron Paul
Posted by: To MSM on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:48 AM
If Obama wins, I blame the media most of all. The majority of journalists in this country ought to be ashamed that they've abdicated their integrity to promote this man.
Posted by: jw on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:47 AM
As usual obama supporters claim the republicans are twisting his words. Listen to what he said. he said exactly what he intends to do and is now trying to weasel out of it like he always does. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! George W. was not a great pres. but this guy will literally destroy our country.
Posted by: Rick on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Michelle, sounds like "Atlas Shrugged." People who work, run businesses, or manage companies had better duck; the looters are coming.
Posted by: jenny939798 on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Typical response from a liberal. "Well, that's not what I said...." when we have written/recorded proof that it is EXACTLY what was said. If you meant to say something opposite what you did, then you should have said that! Dont' trust Obama with our future.
Posted by: Craig Hickman on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Ohio GOP Senator: McCain "Will Put Coal Out of Business" http://www.jedreport.com/2008/11/ohios-gop-senator-mccain-will.html
Posted by: Mike on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Another good example of why Obama has been drilling folks on the importance of voting early! The closer we have gotten to the election day the more truth we learn about Obama.
Posted by: Lee on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:35 AM
How many people have you met that disowns all their friends ? I think that speaks volumes.
Posted by: Davenport on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Yeah people are tired of the whiteman so we need obama. So do like the post said before lets rally our race and vote for our voice Obama. He will set us free.
Posted by: Dave on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Biden saidthere is no such thing as clean coal. That is a fact. The dems are too deep with the environmental groups to give coal a fair shake. When you use a phrase like bankrupt the companies, you have strong feelings.
Posted by: Cindy on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Actually, he would be helping you (for example, here in Florida, we won't allow any new coal plants period already - this is already the status quo under George Bush's presidency - duh - and clean coal might help us change our minds). This is what Obama actually said: >>But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon.<<
Posted by: Coal Miner's Daughter on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Don't forget that coal keeps the lights on! Thank you to all the coalminers who risk their lives every day both above ground and underground to provide for their families. You are appreciated!
Posted by: Sharon on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Now that this has hit the news watch Obama wiggle out of it. Will"We the People" ever get smart and see through what treachery Obama means to inflict on this country!!!!!
Posted by: PaladinWV on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Obama promises tax cut to 95% of middle class but he forgets to mention that his tax cuts will be zeroed out by the Bush tax cuts expiring. Is he really giving a tax cut to anyone?
Posted by: G on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:24 AM
He is quated as saying, "If somebody wants to build a coal power plant they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted". his campaign's spin is that they are referring to using old coal technology. So are they trying to say that all the new coal factories are going to be using "old" technology? C'mon, everyone knows that he would scarp the coal as well as oil industry, just so we would be forever tied to mideast oil, and the problems that come with it.
Posted by: Edward on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Communists always exploit class envy and the welfare crowd always supports robin hood. We have too many people in this country that want something for nothing. Better be scared of this guy, he will CHANGE our country.
Posted by: Robert on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:23 AM
In my opinion: Obama is the only one who is truthful about this... Both candidates support this same policy of "Cap and Trade." Read there energy plans for yourself... this is simply a truth we must face now, not later, to control carbon emissions. Both Obama and McCain have run dirty, deceitful campaigns, and distortions like this are a sorry way to drum-up a few votes, and is exactly what is wrong with our election process. Read people!
Posted by: Doug on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:23 AM
How can Obama be from a coal state? I thought he was from Hawaii? What the heck?
Posted by: Ratt on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Hahahahahs, seems the wheels are coming off Obama's Free-Ride Bus, now he wants to bankrupt the Coal Industry, start his own Black Gustapo Militia to force the Fairness Doctrine, cut our Military funding 25%, give his Constituents gas cards, free mortgages, free Healthcare, and Reparations for Slavery.
Posted by: NoRinos on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:15 AM
How is Obama going to enforce a "Huge Sum'? OH YEA, Obama wants to start a CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE!!! CAN YOU SAY SECRET POLICE??!! Think I am kidding?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
Posted by: To Ky on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Coming from a large coal driven industry yourself, you might want to direct your comment to the good people of Kentucky. The polls show that McCain is winning the state. However, these little comments of Obama's that keep being rehashed only show his lack of forsight politically. He does NOT have any real leadership experience and he wants to make the decisions that will shape not just our lives, but the direction of our entire country in its place in the world. I'm an independent, but I assure you that I'm voting McCain tomorrow. I like my rights and do NOT want a president, who will be more than likely naming Supreme Court Justice(s), to start picking apart the ones he doesn't like. With a democratic President, democratic house and a predominately democratic Court, where will the checks and balances be then? People really better think before they cast their ballot. This election is about far more than merely taxes. McCain's health care bill would never pass in the house. VOTE
Posted by: sloagm on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:11 AM
The rebuttal by the Obama camp is silly. They say that he is a coal supporter and wants to transition to new coal technology. Well, what exactly would a brand new coal-fired electrical facility be using? 1930s technology? No, it would be using new technology, so the idea that he is talking about old vs. new is either misleading or irrelevant. It appears he is talking about coal-fired electricity generation, not coal extraction itself. However, if his goal is to erradicate the U.S. of coal-based electricity, then yes, the result will be the bankruptcy of the domestic coal industry. If that is the endgame he'll probably put export taxes on coal so nobody else can use it either and domestic producers will be put out of business.
Posted by: RickyRicardo on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:10 AM
You know, I orginally thought that we were at a point in our country's history where Obama offered the fresh new leadership our country needed to get us back on the right track. I must admit, however, that the more I learn about the man and all that has been hidden from the public by the media that is CLEARLY in the tank for him(that's actually another shameful issue that the press will have to come to grips with), the more I have become convinced that his election will mean the desctruction of all that has made this country great. His plan is wonderful if you currently do not contribute to society, pay taxes, hold down a job, etc. because these people will be better off. But anyone who is employed, regardless of what you make, hang onto your wallets. And don't think your retirement account is safe either. For these reasons, I did something last Friday that I never remotely thought was a possibility six months ago....I voted for John McCain.
Posted by: Peter on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Why does Obama always state his true intentions in San Francisco?
Posted by: Michelle on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:05 AM
I am closing the doors on my interior design business on 1/01/09. I refuse to try to run a business under an Obama administration. I'm sure a lot of you fine people will pay the bills of the employees that will no longer have a job.
Posted by: Rob on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Don't you love it, look at the Obama supporters claim it's the Republicans twisting his words... HIS WORDS our of his own mouth! That's the Insane logic of the Obama supporters.... "don't listen to my words, if you don't agree with my words it's because the Republicans are twisting MY EXACT WORDS" that's what they are saying. God bless this country, and get out and vote AGAINST the socialist fascist!
Posted by: Egan Foote on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:02 AM
‘Coal Booster’ McCain Would ‘Put Coal Out Of Business’... http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/03/mccain-coal-booster/
Posted by: Notta on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Whatever happens tomorrow there will be turmoil in the streets as this nation is claerly divided and I have heard of many small companies waiting to see if obama is elected so they will know wether to start layoffs or not, as many have no intention of handing over profits to obama to hand over to those who havent earned them. we should see quite a bit of downturn and lets not even talk about the military. my oldest told her recruiter she will nit sign up if obama is elected and my nephew is doing the same, you will see recuiting plummet under an obama administration.
Posted by: Patrick on Nov 3, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Read the ABC article, there is nothing out of context here. Get through the garbled language; he is saying he will destroy the coal industry unless they come up with some magic solution to carbon emissions immediately. I agree with incentives to move to better solutions, but this is absurd. They guy is like an idealistic college student! Same with his ridiculous statements about instating a "civilian" force. I know everybody hates Bush, but do you really want to run to such an extreme? A two year Senator, who spent those 2 years running for President! Please! He truly has an activist mentality, again, like a college student. "Any man under 30, who is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man over 30, who is not a conservative, has no brains."
Posted by: Scott on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Yeah so... uh... its good to see you all care so much about the coal industry.
Posted by: Nemsud on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Taxes on coal = higher energy costs for the end buyer.
Posted by: Steve B on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:55 AM
He's not just untrustworthy on coal. How about Tony Rezko, William Ayers, Woods Fund, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, Kenyan killer Raila Odinga, Nadhmi Auchi, Rashid Khalidi, Black Panthers' support, Louis Farrakhan, mystery college transcripts, mystery college theses, mystery Harvard Law Review documents, birth certificate authenticity, vote against funding our troops, connections to George Soros and MoveOn.org, abortion, even pro-abortion after a live birth in a botched abortion stance, "typical white person" and "guns and religion" remarks, "Dreams From My Father" (a compendium of lies), support of terrorists (donations pouring in from the Middle East) and dictators (Hugo Chavez, the Castros, Hamas, Hezbollah), big bucks from Fannie Mae, Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, stance on sitting down with dictators without preconditions, "The Audacity of Hope" (racism and more lies), Trinity United Church murders, dubious authorship of his books, and ACORN?
Posted by: John McGlothlin on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Obama ALWAYS says one thing in San Francisco and a different thing at rallies. WHO IS THE REAL OBAMA? Answer: Look at his record, and you'll have NO DOUBT, WHATSOEVER that he is the San Franciscan. He's NEVER done ANYTHING that he currently promises to do in the past. PERIOD. He's a fraud, manufactured candidate, funded by millions in illegal foreign donations.
Posted by: J on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM
People better wake, this guy can not do all the things he is saying without raising taxes. He has lied from the very first and will continue to tell you what he thinks you want to hear. Good car salesman thought..
Posted by: joshua miller on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Stand up America to lies of Hussein Oboma=he will bankrupt coal industry, give welfare to those who do not pay income taxes, invite Wright, Ayers, and the like (his neighbors) into our government=do not believe the polls=ask all to vote, take them to polls, and enlighten them, surely they don't know who dangerous and evil obama is=he has no experience, can't take care of his own family, his aunt is illegal, he is untrustworthy. God Bless America and our brave warrior, John McCain
Posted by: ALJ on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Responding to: businessownerforObama What's the matter, you're upset that media didn't hide this better?
Posted by: anthony on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:41 AM
All he's saying is that if the coal industry fails to modernize and keep up with technology, they will bankrupt themselves and that is all part of the free-market. Wake up and learn the facts, not GOP talking points.
Posted by: W on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:41 AM
This is BS. Check out: http://www.jedreport.com/2008/11/ohios-gop-senator-mccain-will.html Obama and McShame have the same position on Clean Coal fool
Posted by: ralph on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:41 AM
If you pepole in my sister state of W. VA. go along with obama on this you deserve all the additional poverty this will bring to your state. No one will be hit as hard as you guys...
Posted by: Watch Dog on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Great job getting this posted. Obama is the biggest fraud in history
Posted by: Linda on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:39 AM
This has become a campaign of good v evil. There has been so many lies coming from Obama, I believe he is evil and will say anything to get into power. Once there, he will crush America with his Islamic views, his terrorist beliefs and his apathy towards the United States or the world for that matter. He believes what his followers are saying, that he IS the Mesiah. Obama, you are an Obamanation to God Himself and to the Lord Jesus. You wonder how all of this is happening? Try this ... it is the end times where God says in the Bible, that He will pour out his Holy Spirit on some but most will be blind to the truth. I know you are not the anti-Christ and I absolutely know you are NOT the Mesiah. God helps us all if you were. You just may be the instrument that God needs to fulfill the prophecy to the end times in the Holy Bible.
Posted by: Granna on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:36 AM
I knew Obama was a radical leftest, I did not know he is willing to destroy jobs and undercut lower heating bills. It is clear now, he wants the US completely dependant on foreign oil. IS ANYONE LISTENING?
Posted by: Paulo on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:36 AM
I think this is a pretty shameful misrepresentation of what Obama was saying. It is pretty clear that Obama wants to encourage clean coal technology over dirty coal. New dirty coal plants will go bankrupt. This is not an attack on the whole industry as many have erroneously claimed.
Posted by: cat on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:33 AM
I can't believe his guy. He continues to lie to the American people. I know its really bad that he has so many unfavorable friends and his lying is OUTRAGEOUS.
Posted by: Gary on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Doesn't it bother any of you that every time you turn on TV a new revelation of Obama's real character and Socialist goals are revealed. This country was founded on the belief that it's citizens could make decisions on their own behalf better than government. Before long we will all be living in government housing wearing government issued uniforms and riding motor scooters!
Posted by: jeff on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:27 AM
not as deranged as to vote republican i mean mel come on look at what busch has done. he is a worthless republican and he has runied the country single handedly.
Posted by: Doug on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Matt it's like the shady birth cretifcate, his church, his sponsorship of billlions to world welfare and who knows what else! It's being kept quite like a lot of other things, until after election! This is the biggest play against America yet! The hand writing is on the wall! Get up and run to vote this time! McCain/Palin, Russ Weeks/Jay Wolfe ! ! This isn't just haltosis, to many things just don't smell right here or add up...
Posted by: GARY on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:22 AM
TAKE THE WHITES JOBS AND GIVE TO THE BLACKS MAKES SENSE. THATS WHAT YOU WHITES DESERVE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO US. YOU ALL SHOULD TO HAVE TO WORK FOR US FOR WHAT YOU PUT OUR ANCESTOR'S THREW. I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE FREE THE BLACK MAN FROM THE WHITEMAN'S RULE.
Posted by: lee frandsen on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Does Obama realize that almost all of the power plants (non-nuclear) in the U.S. use coal to heat the boilers, that create steam to run the turbines, to give us electricity? I think not, or he wouldn't be so quick to bankrupt the coal industry. For the U.S., coal means electricity, and electricity means.....well, you know, you count the ways we use it.
Posted by: ewj on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:18 AM
This is the exact same proposals McCain have made. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP6iqcrHvsE
Posted by: B on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Let's be clear: the Obama campaign's response makes no sense. He's not talking about other "pollutants"...just CO2. So, a "clean" coal plant is not an option under his plan. He wants to shut down the coal industry, and he wants your electricity bill to go up *dramatically*. His vision of America is basically everyone living in a hut like his brother in Kenya.
Posted by: D Lane on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM
why does the media always cover for him and why does someone always have to tell us what he meant to say. Obama doesn't know what he is about and wont take a stand for anything. Even the other day after spending millions on ads telling the people why lowering taxes on Corperations was bad he said in an interview he might have to lower them (thank god he relizes this if elected but still!). What sent the US into the depression following the stock market crash? Raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations and putting up tariffs and following the ideals of protectionism. What do the Dems favor to get our economy back on track. THE VERY SAME IDEAS. Now he wants to bankrupt the coal industry.. this guy is NUTZ!
Posted by: Mike on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Funny how whenever someone actually gets a tape of some of the things that Nobama really believes in, his side ALWAYS says it was taken out of context. It sounded pretty darn clear to me what he meant. God help us if he wins. I really think we ought to pray.....and I'm not even religious.
Posted by: Halley Comet on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Well why not bankrupt coal as well as the mortgage industry Obama?
Posted by: Coal Is West Virginia! on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Coal is West Virginia! We had better remember this before voting for Barack Obama. The video with Obama's comments about coal will frighten every West Virginian who is associated with coal or the electric generating industry in our state and the tri. state region. I can not believe that anyone would be able to vote for Obama, especially now when this news has been reported! Save the coal and electric industry jobs in the tri. state, vote for McCain.
Posted by: BSC on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:09 AM
200 years of mining? How has that worked for you West Virginia? This state next to last in nearly every measurable category. WV can not grow while it continues to cling to a near obsolete fossil fuel. Get out of the mines, get educated, and start a business. Too many young WV males have dreams no wider than the nearest hole in the ground. That attitude must change.
Posted by: casey on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:08 AM
rascal,i id read the whole thing and the more you read the more you realize it wasn't takin out of context like the obama camp is claiming,it's funny everytime obama and biden says stuff that hurts their credibiity theirs always a excuse!always!
Posted by: Frank on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:06 AM
If you feel like to tell me to mind my own business, for saying my piece about American politics, do so, I won't feel offended. But since our economy always hinges on American economy, I do feel that I am affected by your Presidential elections. So the specter of an Obama Presidency scares the heck out of me. Cast your vote wisely.
Posted by: JoetheMillionaire on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Dear Hensley: You have managed to write the most incoherent comment ever. Ironically, judging by your inability to manage the English language, you are probably somebody who would be helped by Obama's plans for our country. Luckily for us rich people, McCain has tricked enough dumb poor people that giving me taxes will somehow help you. So Hensley, as you go to the poll and vote McCain I have to thank you and other like you so that I can keep my yachts and my penthouse. Its sad that you probably will no longer have a house. Here is to you!
Posted by: Red on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:03 AM
If Obama wins it will mean my family will pay more in taxes. We are slightly above 250,000. We are not rich but we are comfortable. We have to budget our money. If I pay more taxes it will not hurt me but it will hurt all those I currently give my business. We had planned a 30,000 landscaping job in the spring that I will no longer be able to give to the landscaper. He will not be able to hire his crew, the plant seller will not sell his plants. The state will not get their sales tax. We currently eat out at restaurants and tip very nicely. We will be cutting back on eating out which will hurt the restaurant owners, the waiters/waitress that rely on people eating out and no sale tax. We will not take our ski trip in Colorado which means the ski resort loses out, their employees, the hotels and again the lack of sales tax. It will not hurt us to cut back but when everyone cuts back it will hurt the economy. My friends said they will they will cut back. What jobs will the govt provide?
Posted by: jaime vives on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:01 AM
the coal industry need to be shut down forever. there's more than plenty of cleaner cheaper (if not free)sources of energy. the technology is out there. but unfortunaletly i all about big money and big corporations...
Posted by: Larry on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:58 AM
I can't believe that someone thinks that the GOP is lying to the people while Obama is a speaker of truth. One of Obama's ads states that "McCain wants to reduce taxes for his friends in big companies," and that "this will do nothing for the middle class." Business NEVER pays taxes, because any imposed tax is a cost of doing business and must be covered by the sale of their product or service. Higher taxes on business will either cause prices to rise, reduce quality for the product or service, or cause the business to lay off employees. There are no other options. Higher business taxes in this country also cause the US businesses to be less competitive with those of other countries, and thus also pressure the businesses to leave the US. So it stands to reason that a lower business tax is essentially an "embedded" tax reduction for ALL. Either Obama is ignorant of these facts, or he is lying to everyone. I happen to believe the latter. NoBama '08
Posted by: frostheev on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:58 AM
barak hussien obama wanting to bankrupt the coal industry! How many jobs will that idea create? What a friggin moron!
Posted by: Holly on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:55 AM
It's all about fear and scare tactics, STILL, even after 9-11. Read what both McCain and Obama's energy policies are before you start name calling like the repubs like to do. It doesn't mean you will have no coal jobs. It's the opposite. Clean coal technology jobs will be added!!! Obama will do much more than drill, baby, drill. Read their platforms and see who you agree with. If you voted for Hillary in the primary, I can guarantee you it ain't John McCain.
Posted by: Jaime on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:53 AM
I don't know how anyone could vote for someone who's only record is prior to the Senate... and it is an ugly one!
Posted by: B on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:53 AM
Obama 08' :)
Posted by: McCain08 on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:53 AM
I'm extremely confident that most WV, KY and OH democrats are smarter than this. We may have put up with some compromising situations in times past just to preserve party loyalty, but now the integrity of the party itself is starting to wobble. We're all beginning to finally recognize that this is NOT the democrat party of our parents' and grandparents' generation. It defies everything that they stood for. I always said that my granddad would roll over in his grave if I voted Republican, but I think now he would be the first to tell me that, I didn't leave the democrat party, it left ME. I don't necessarily agree with everything on the Republican end either, but I'll not use my vote to allow these liberal nuts to hijack the White House with principles and philosophies that go against my very core beliefs. So Obama and Biden, I guess I'll just cling to my guns, my God, and my COAL. There are a few of us who still believe that way even if we're registered Democrats.
Posted by: John on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:45 AM
Obama wants to give this country to the blacks. If he gets voted in the white man will lose all his rights think of this when you vote. Never in history has there been so much to lose for the whiteman.
Posted by: Jenna on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:42 AM
Did you even read Obama's 'actual' comments? He said he would enforce stricter regulations on mining and processing coal. I thought that's what West Virginia wanted? If the coal companies don't tighten up, Obama will enpose fines that may bankrupt them. All they have to do is measure up to the regulation and coal will continue to be mined. West Virginia: Do you want the global warming greenhouse gases produce? Or, do you want clean coal production?
Posted by: JAKE on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:42 AM
HE WOULD BANKRUPT THIS STATE AND THIS COUNTRY SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY WE NEED TO PUT IN OFFICE. HOW IS HE GOING TO PUT THE WORKING MAN OUT OF A JOB AND STILL BE ABLE TO SPREAD THE WELFARE AROUND. I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN THANKS OBAMA FOR HELPING ME MAKE THIS LAST MINUTE DECISION.
Posted by: Coal Miner on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:38 AM
IF YOUR A FRIEND OF COAL BETTER VOTE NOBAMA. HIS ADMINSTRATION HAS NO ROOM FOR WEST VIRGINA'S HARDEST WORKING GROUP OF PEOPLE. I AM A MINER AND MY VOTE WILL GO TO MCCAIN PROUDLY.
Posted by: Steve on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:35 AM
Why didn't Hillary find all of this stuff? I thought she had a machine second to none. If she had, perhaps we wouldn't have to be dealing with it now?!
Posted by: HippyLover on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:34 AM
I feel sorry for democrats... they've been indoctrinated since elementary school. They can't help that it's in their programming to push these destructive people to the top of our political system. Obama is not unlike the wizard of oz - you can only see the guy in front of the pillars, not the true guy behind the curtain. If Obama is elected, the responsible hardworking people of America will be screwed while those who take gov't entitlements will thrive... until the wealth is gone, then we'll be like any other 3rd world country. Thanks Obama, Pelosi, and Reid for the bright future you're about to lead us to...
Posted by: OHIO VOTER on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:32 AM
I JUST HOPE THAT OHIO AND PENN PAY ATTENTION TO THIS STORY, THERE ARE A LOT OF OHIO AND PENN FOLKS THAT MAKE THEIR LIVINGS IN THE MINES.... GO MCCAIN!!
Posted by: Vorenious on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:31 AM
What is remarkable, Joe Biden knew of the alias Hussein Obama's plan and he is always saying he is from the coal mining working class of Scranton Pa. We need energy alternatives and we need jobs. If Obama destroys the coal mining industry he will put more than 1.5 million families on welfare and without proper training to find new employment. What is further dusgusting is that the union leaders led us to believe the alias Obama would protect our jobs and families! It's time to get joe biden off the gravy train of which he has rode for 36 years and will get $164,000 a month in retirement from Congress, and he has never been a class worker, after cillege and law school he went straight to Congress and now he gets a $164K a month retirement? Most of us real workers would never achieve that amount for a month even if we worked 72 years! NoObama and no Biden. Makes you wonder wht b
Posted by: thegenuinearticle on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:31 AM
More of the Obama interview... "The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that FOR US TO TAKE COAL OFF THE TABLE as a (sic) ideological matter AS OPPOSED TO SAYING if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it." Folks, if you can't put 2 and 2 together on this comment, you're the blind led by the blind and you will most certainly fall into the ditch...
Posted by: Brenda on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:30 AM
We as God fearing christians need to fast and pray that America will open their eyes on election day. Our children and grandchildren will be facing such obstacles as never know by us if we elect this man as our president.
Posted by: Steve on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:30 AM
If McCain,McConnell and all the Republican representatives win in Kentucky, after all the negative things going on. You can say Kentucky has become a Republican state like most of the south.
Posted by: Joe Plumber on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:28 AM
NO Obama -- and keep the change!
Posted by: Todd on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:28 AM
He is the biggest racist in America. Vote NOBAMA. He is pretty much as stupid as he looks. West Virginia would not be nothing if it was not for coal and the jobs its provides. He is a disgrace to this country.
Posted by: Hause on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:27 AM
QUOTE**"The Obama campaign says the quote is being taken out of context and that Obama is actually from a coal state and is a strong supporter of the industry."**ENDQUOTE Out of context? Citizens of the United States of America, how can this be taken in any way EXCEPT IN FULL CONTEXT. WAKE UP USA! BHO and JB are NOTHING but LAWYERS who speak well in lawyer DOUBLETALK. Hadn't we had enough yet? Or will it take for all of us to live in huts, on dirt mats, with the nanny patrol standing over us with flashlights and banned guns. Think this is excessive or even ridiculous? That is EXACTLY what the lib left wants you to believe.
Posted by: Jeff (from WV) on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:27 AM
More stupid West Virginians. You don't know anything about Marxism, but suddenly you are using the term all the time...You didn't care when the conservatives were giving your tax dollars away to big business and foreign countries! Big coal must change its ways. That was Obama's point....There is too little regard for our environment, and too much favor for the coal companies who own this state!
Posted by: Timothy L. Pennell on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:21 AM
Where are the Unions on this stuff? How many JOBS are on the line with these idiot Democrats? Coal, Oil exploration and production, Natural Gas, Nuclear. I know these morons in the Unions want their Mafia Card Check Legislation to go through, but what good is it, you idiots, if there's no place to use it? I don't know how any ADULT can vote Democrat. Any RESPONSIBLE adult. The Party of the FREAKS, the LOSERS, NAMBLA, Baby Killers, Felons, and every other anti-social pile of garbage that's out there. Barak Obama is the PERFECT representative for this Party. The Party of the LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR. God help us all. Even you Atheists who'll be voting for Golden Boy.
Posted by: COAL MINERS WIFE on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:20 AM
...AND THE UMWA ENDORSED THIS GUY???? One thing for sure, the UMWA officials that endorsed Obama have probably never had to work underground for years to feed their families and have decent retirement and health care. When the UMWA crumbles under this administration, they can just thank themselves. Better check this guy out before you cast your vote on Tuesday!!! Coal miners need to take a stand against Obama!
Posted by: jeff28 on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:18 AM
It was the San Francisco Chronicles that sat on this, no the McCain camp. This was just released within the last few days. You should be asking why did they not release this sooner. Only a completely blind Obamanic could try to spin this as a pro obama statement. It is what it is.
Posted by: Mohamed on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:18 AM
THIS IS FINALLY THE END TO WHITE PRIVLEDGE!!! It is time for the new RECONSTRUCTION without mercy Now the wealth that White's stole from African Americans can be recovered through involuntary slave reparations. Also racist talk radio and Fox News MUST be shut down. All support for the Zionist entity (Israel) must be removed. 50% of ALL high level jobs MUST be set aside for African Americans. White's who support Republicans MUST lose their vote ... just like the Confederate losers.
Posted by: DAWN on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:17 AM
EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET THIS STORY OUT in emails and message boards because most of the media is ignoring this. this could make a huge difference in the coal states. get the story out.
Posted by: BLACKSHEEP on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:17 AM
PEOPLE.....DONT JUST READ THIS STORY HERE....GOTO FOXNEWS.COM AND READ THE REST OF THE STORY....HE WANTS TO CHARGE THE NEW COAL POWER PLANTS SO THAT THEY CAN USE THE MONEY TO HELP DEVELOP NEW POWER ALT. W.S.A.Z. ONLY SHOWED HALF THE STORY. HE DOESN'T WANT TO STOP COAL PRODUCTION HERE IN KY AND WVA, ONLY TO HELP CLEAN THE AIR THAT "WE BREATH". THE TAPE WASN'T HID FROM ONLY ONE...THIS IS ONLY FROM DIRTY REPUBLCIANS, DONT YOU WANT THE "NEXT FOUR YEARS" LIKE THE LAST EIGHT. SO PLEASE YOU YOUR HEAD PEOPLE.
Posted by: Jack on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:16 AM
NObama,The United States has the largest coal deposits in the world. Researching and using a clean coal technology for our energy needs would end our reliance on foreign oil!
Posted by: Doug on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:15 AM
Yet the UMWA still endorses him!
Posted by: Fidel on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:14 AM
Obama's a Commie!
Posted by: Cindy on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:09 AM
This is not the time to ba passive or silent. Vote on Tuesday for McCain/Palin or accept the bleak future Obama has promised. This is not change for the positive.
Posted by: Kelly on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:09 AM
How much worse can it get. Obama is a liar!!! He drops his $250k taxable income limit to $200k and now it's all the way down to $120k. What a liar!!! He says that he wants to help the middle class, he's a disgusting liar...a disgrace. A vote for Obama is a vote for a liar and someone who will do much harm to the American worker and families all over America...income redistribution... are you kidding me. I work too hard for some jerk to steal my money and pass it along to others who want to sit at home and do nothing but take from hard working people. Those people don't even pay taxes and take welfare checks as it is.Obama is a joke!!!!
Posted by: Debbie on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:07 AM
He was referring to plants that did not use newer technologies to protect the environment, if you're going to cite a candidate's stance, at least do it accurately! The person who will raise taxes on the majority of working WV people is McCain, especially if you receive health care benefits, he plans to tax that as income while continuing cuts for the richest. Check his stances out. Oh yeah and he still wants to put SS in the hands of Wall Street. Under repub leadership we have the biggest economic mess ever, the last time it came close was 87, again under repubs. No matter how long they are in office they always want to blame the side that is not in power. I think they need to learn some of that personal responsiblity they preach others should learn.
Posted by: CowboyBob on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:05 AM
The Obamination which causes desolation .. let the reader understand.
Posted by: Joe on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:02 AM
A sad day for America if the kenyan born racist and his racist wife win the election. 3rd world America brought to you by the democrats. People are learning that democrats hate America more than muslims and almost as much as nazi pelosi. anyone that votes for a democrat is a uninformed voter...
Posted by: Sean on Nov 3, 2008 at 09:00 AM
Manchin endorsed and became a super delegate for the anti-coal Presidential candidate, when the people of WV said no to Obama. Russ Weeks just got my vote for governor.
Posted by: Jones on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:59 AM
As a licensed engineer having worked in heavy industry for over 20 years, I can tell you that the plan proposed by the democrat party is both misleading and impossible. You can't have it both ways - you want zero CO2 emission, or do you want to use domestic energy sources? The technology available today to convert renewable energy sources *cannot even come close* to supplying the power needs of the United States. Coal will suppy the needs of the US for decades, but CO2 is a by-product of its use. Nuclear is the *ONLY* source that can actually meet the power demands of the US with available technology and emits *zero atmospheric byproduct*. Anyone proposing anything else is simply delusional.
Posted by: Charlie on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:57 AM
Come on people,wake up! This is the same tactics used by the Bush campaign in 04 remember? Actually compare the two,look at both candidates plan not the blown out of proportion & twisted comments .The republicans are lying just like last time when they pulled the wool over many good Americans eyes with the big man women =child issue which was completely forgotten right after the election,remember? This time is no different. Just like Obama said this power hungry republican party does not want to change America why would they? The way they have control over this country now & the last 8yrs. has made them all millionaires if not billionaires .I for one resent them insulting my intelligence. How about you? Just more diversions from the real issues is what the republican party is all about. Shaking hands with one hand while stabbing you in the back with the other...& smiling all the while. Don't get fooled again!
Posted by: lynn on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:51 AM
Anything you are 'only hearing about now!' means that it's a gross misrepresention, aimed at fooling the gullible. (does that title apply to you?)
Posted by: george on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:42 AM
What's next bigger taxes on the farmers? Their equipment and livestock let out gases, that means even higher prices at your grocery store. Lets see where Obama saves you money there. Pray for McCain/Palin we need them in office
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:41 AM
nobama make up your mind you say one thing to day and change it tomorrow is this the change you were talking about ?
Posted by: TGC on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:37 AM
Notice how every time he gets caught saying what he truly stands for his sheep have to run around telling you what he "REALLY MEANT". I thought this guy was supposed to be a great communicator, but every time the truth slips out staffers have to explain it to America. There is a reason Obama has been pushing you to vote early, once you vote you can't take it back...once you find out exactly who you voted for it's too late. This man is a liar and a Marxist! Don't get sucked in.
Posted by: UMWA on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:36 AM
As a lifelong member of the UMWA, I think we all should ask for Cecil Roberts resignation, NOW!
Posted by: ritchie on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:35 AM
Obama flies around in an big MD-80 jet which spews greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Allen on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:34 AM
Making coal a coal company invest in clean burning technology does not mean less money for WV.It just means Don Blankenship will put a few less million in his pocket.No one is saying do away with coal,just make the owners invest to insure clean air and water.From the beginning it's been about the top three issues for me.Iraq,healthcare,and environment.Obama will get us out of Iraq,get the insurance companies out of control of our healthcare,and he will pursue renewable energy.The republicans are throwing the kitchen sink to try to distract you from the issues.Stay focussed and be smart.One more thing,I would encourage everyone to study the history of Germany.How did that country go from a democratic parlinment style government to a dictatorship and facism? Open your eyes and stop W now!
Posted by: Kevin on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:33 AM
West Virginians beware. Look at these facts about the coal industry. And Obama wants them to go BANKRUPT: - More than half of the nation's electricity is generated from coal. - In West Virginia 99% of the generated electricity comes from coal. - There are currently 14 coal fired electric generating facilities located in West Virginia. - Coal provides the majority of electric power in 32 states. - In the United States, the demand for electricity has increased 136% since 1970. - National demand for electricity is expected to increase by another 24 percent by 2020. - Emissions from power plants have been reduced by 1/3 over the past 30 years. - It has been estimated that 13 percent of the national power requirement is taken up by activities associated with computers and information technology. - Taxes paid by the coal industry and by utility companies that make electricity using West Virginia coal account for two-thirds, or over 60% of business taxes pa
Posted by: Susan L Anderson on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Everything is "out of context". Apparently he speaks "out of context". He didn't know about anything... not Wright, or Aires, Dorn, or Rashid Khalidi. God help us if we end up with this guy as president! He either has extremely poor judgement, he's an idiot, or a liar. I go for all three. Go to McCain's website and make some calls... Obama has to be stopped if it's at all possible.
Posted by: Nascar on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:29 AM
Most every state produces coal. Coal is almost 50% of our heating energy. Don't question the timing of this - question the candidate who said it! Don't trust someone with America's future who won't even let you know about his past (Obamma, show us your birth/medical records, college records, truth about friendships with Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Rezko, etc.).
Posted by: K on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:28 AM
It is going to be a long 4 yrs if Obama wins this election, and he is going to send this country into a down ward spiral and its not going to be a good ride. He will do, and say anything to try to get elected.
Posted by: Lora on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:23 AM
Interesting how his campaign restates his position in a completely different way. He said nothing at all about "new technology" he said "it will bankrupt them" because of the fines for emissions. Why has this guy made it this far when his campaign is so blatant about lying? Why have the American people let this go this far?
Posted by: Charles Runyon on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:20 AM
Man made global warming is a proven hoax, bad science! CO2's created by man are trace amounts. Why are the Democrocrats and many Republicans so eager for the U.S. to become a third world country. It isn't GM, GE, Ford, or any other manufacturers fault they can't compete it's our governments fault. Nobody wants dirty water and skies and as technology grows so will the ability to produce in a cleaner setting, but tech can't be legislated by elected officials of which many sole careers are lawyers. Wake up America before we are no more. We are not evil we are good and the things we have given the world have improved more lives than any other society in history. Freedom.
Posted by: Here we go again!!! on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:19 AM
HELLO PEOPLE, MCCAIN SPONSORED A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD PUT COAL OUT OF BUSINESS!!!!Three years ago on the floor of the United States Senate, John McCain's Republican colleague George Voinovich of Ohio took to the floor to argue against a proposal by McCain to curb greenhouse gas emissions. McCain's proposal, Voinovich said, would "put coal out of business" and cost thousands of jobs, an argument that McCain did not contest. WAY TO GO JOHN!!! WHAT AN IDIOT!!!
Posted by: Mr.Deranged on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:18 AM
Sorry McBush, your going to have to come up something better than this to change my vote.
Posted by: Roger on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:16 AM
Check out a funny "Nobama" parody song at: www.myspace.com/rogerweber
Posted by: PolySciGeek on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:16 AM
Go see the VIDEO of the complete question and answer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMwBbl6RoIs
Posted by: John on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:14 AM
This tape was made by a Hearst Paper - here in Houston the chronicle is also one. They have endorsed Obama. And this little snippit comes out - plus a tap a Los Angles paper is keeping back - 'all the news that we like to print'
Posted by: Brian on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:13 AM
Obama Mama and the Dummycrats are nothing more then a joke. Make the coal industry pay and will cost more jobs. They are pathetic. When I listened to Obama Mama the first time I knew this guy scared me. And what is more scarier then him is people will vote for him.
Posted by: d on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:12 AM
this tape has been proven altered. if you believe it, you'll believe anything.
Posted by: David on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:04 AM
For the love of God, Think what you are doing before you pull that lever for Obama.
Posted by: JR on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:03 AM
This isn't "republican spin". This sentence alone explains everything: "So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted." I think that's pretty clear and doesn't need any further explanation. Now I'm sure that the Obama campaign is going to try to spin like a top about this and the sheeple are going to nod their collective heads and vote for him anyway. Because it's only about being a Democrat, it's not about who the man actually is. That never mattered. Not to him, not to his supporters, not to the media. Woe to all of us that work for a living. Think that the numbers pan out? They don't. So the bar will continue to be lowered until his programs are funded and none of us have very much left. The American dream is dead as we knew it. Hail Obama, the socialist king. Thought that we left England and threw tea in the harbor for that.
Posted by: Marmaduke on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:02 AM
Isn't it amazing how we in GOP somehow "lie" about HUSSEINS OWN WORDS!!!???
Posted by: Concerned on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:58 AM
Pray that people vote against socialism and for liberty---a vote for obama would mean we would be living one step beneath communism, but them again from some of the remarks I have read you people wouldn't know the difference..
Posted by: Mike on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:52 AM
I hope all you coal miners voting for Obama know how to make coal soup.
Posted by: carl on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:51 AM
Like the coal industry cant defend its self.Its hard to believe what is said right before an election.
Posted by: Donna on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:50 AM
You are a bunch of racist rednecks! I will vote for Obama and change tomorrow and although he may not win this state because of people like you all who cling to every word about your coal and guns, I PRAY he will win over Bush, I mean McCain in the long run. Things are taken out of context...why don't you look up how your "good ole boy" McCain views these same issues!
Posted by: rosemary on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:48 AM
Obama is a liar. face it. The promise of hope and change... well, you will see a lot of bad changes, this coal thing is a drop in the bucket. hahaha Vote McCain
Posted by: Mark on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:47 AM
Look out Coal Country. Obama and Biden are peeing on your back and telling you its raining.
Posted by: MrObvious on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:47 AM
I guess WSAZ did not like the comment that I left stating that the reason we haven't heard of this interview sooner was because the media has been biased in Obama's favor. I was not saying that it was WSAZ's fault that this wasn't let out sooner but it does fit the whole picture of Obama the media darling.
Posted by: Janelle on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Too bad all you coal producing states are going to be killed off by the messiah. Don't you wish you hadn't voted early?
Posted by: Mike M on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Oh how I hope that the RANK AND FILE members of the UMWA b__ slap the UMWA pinky ring thugs who endorsed BHO! If you know a coal miner - send them the youtube link of the audio of an interview by SF Gate that they managed to even HIDE from Hillary! ..until now that is... v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
Posted by: Robert on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:44 AM
No more coal? That is OK, we have plenty of forests that we can cut down to provide firewood to heat our homes. How long does it take to grow a tree? This surely will stop illegal immigration from Mexico.
Posted by: Erv on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:44 AM
Obama may be from a coal state but the coal portion of that state is Southern Illinois. The Chicago Land area of Illinois does not care about the Sourthern portion of the state. Southern Illinois is consistantly ignored by the state government. I have been saying the same thing that Obama has just said which is that an Obama Presidency will put all of the coal minners out of business; we will no longer be able to use coal as an energy resource; this will cause us to rely even more on foreign entergy as he does not like nuclear or domestic drilling either.
Posted by: francis on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:43 AM
small businesses and publicly owned corporations are the new al qaeda...god help us all
Posted by: Kelly McDowell on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:40 AM
People are crazy if they vote for Obama. Energy costs are going to soar and unemployment numbers will be equivalent to the Great Depression. Oh, I forgot, they think, "I'll have free health care". Maybe, but you won't have lights and you won't be able to afford gas to go the the grocery store!
Posted by: Mark on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:40 AM
Obama wants the Crazies in San Fran to believe he is going to bankrupt the coal industry. Now he wants West Virginians and other Coal States to think that he is all for you. What Obama should we believe?, the most Liberal Democrat Candidate ever, in line with the Califorinia Nuts, or the One that professes to believe in you. His record proves that he supports the Extreme Liberal's and not the Hard Working Democrats of West Virginia. Go and Vote so that your voice can be heard on Tuesday Nov 4th.
Posted by: Kelly on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:36 AM
I pray every night and day Obama does not get elected. I think the democrate and republican partys should be droped and vote for the people that is running. Just because you are register one or the other you do not have to vote that way. If everybody would watch Fox news you would then know who to vote for. The biggest and the most important thing I have to say is GOD HELP THE UNITED STATES IF OBAMA GETS ELECTED PRESIDENT.
Posted by: Concern #1 on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:34 AM
Obama has lied all along... he wants to bankrupt the coal power plant for greenhouse gasses HOW ABOUT THE GASSES HIS JET IS EMITTED EVERYTIME HE FLIES and waves his little greedy hand to all those sick Americans waiting to see him... waiting to give him your donation... you will wake up and see HE IS NOT THE CHOSEN ONE.... WHEN IT IS TO LATE... and he wants to take our guns away to so you can not defend your self from the thugs that is taking over right along with him.....
Posted by: Floss on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:34 AM
I heard the tape and he did say his plan would bankrupt the Coal Industry now why would any political candidate want to bankrupt any business in the USA. Should any American be comfortable with that attitude?
Posted by: tommy richards on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:33 AM
NO OBAMA - to all you idiots and mental midgets thinking about voting for this commie-centric pied piper, he's a marxist and dislikes regular Americans. you'd better think seriously before pulling the lever!
Posted by: NY Mom on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:33 AM
I wish someone would explain to me why they would vote Obama. In all seriousness, between his "spread the wealth" statement, his call for higher taxation, his Wright/Ayers etc. connections, his "guns and religion" statement, his comments about a "civilian military force" and now this with the coal - WHY would ANYONE vote for this man who is out to completely destroy our country?
Posted by: Janet on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:32 AM
Remember that Shelley Moore Capito kept US in mind and voted NO to the bailout TWICE. I'm voting for her.
Posted by: Mom on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:32 AM
I have ask this before.But am saying it again.If the election were held the day after 9/11 would the American people still be voting for Obama? I cannot beleive how some have been brainwashed by this man.God help us all.I pray people will open their eyes before they go vote.God bless America!
Posted by: Stephen G on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:30 AM
"I um er um well um uh what I meant to say was coal fired plants would be better without the coal and if we trap the carbon dioxide in little bottles of fizz water then that would be sustainable."
Posted by: Sarge on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:27 AM
Obama is just a dangerous liberal, that with higher taxes,will create higher unemployment. Jimmy Carter proved this fact.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:23 AM
Byrd and Rockefeller look out for Byrd and Rockefeller. To hell with the rest of us. I really don't like McCain, but he's getting my vote. The alternative is far worse.
Posted by: sDee on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:22 AM
This is unbelievably irresponsible Odamam is dangerous and the media is covering his true extreme liberal agenda. Another quote from the interview where he plans to soak the America people after he bankrupts Coal mining and power industry: “You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, you know — under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.” more here: http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/02/obama-ill-cause-energy-prices-to-skyrocket/
Posted by: Steve on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:19 AM
You Repblicans can try and spin the words all you want , its a little too late for that . Obama has already won this election . Now, if you want to talk about nasty "dirt" and stuff like that , just wait until that judge releases the tape of Sara Palin and the two guys . America hasn't seen anything yet .
Posted by: deb on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:17 AM
Its called mud-slinging, but it wont change my mind about casting my vote for Obama! I was born and raised here in the middle of coal country and I am tired of watching our country fall apart under the leadership of the republican parties! I am not scared of CHANGE, I WELCOME IT, and with Obama ther will be change, we pray to GOD its for better!
Posted by: ME on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:14 AM
How in the world could someone vote for Nobama???? The man couldn't even show his face in person in our great state. And the lies the right side of his face telling the left side and vice versa.... NOBAMA !!!NOBAMA!!!!!
Posted by: Davis on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:10 AM
All I can say is wow ! Shocked no, look at the lack of coverage on Obama's statements like The "Constitution is a negative limiting document" (1992 NPR Chicago interview) I live in a state devastated by job loss. So Obama's solution is to increase job loss and in increase energy costs, increase activists judges at Federal levels, increase spending and increase taxes This change that is not needed and certain to lead to two decades of decline.
Posted by: Greg on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:08 AM
I tell you, there was a time when I was starting to believe what Obama was saying. I was falling under his spell. But the more I find out about him, the more I realize it's just all smoke and mirrors. The guy is totally inexperienced. There's a reason Europe and the rest of the world wants him to be elected--they want a weaker America. And he'll provide it. Back away from the fact that he's a great speaker (he is) and judge him objectively. He is an empty suit that reads a teleprompter. He has NO good ideas. This appears to all be just his thirst for power. I think McCain is a bad choice, too, but he's a heck of a lot better than this guy. Not all change is good. I prefer a little gridlock in Washington...there's something to be said for that. Vote McCain this time. If Obama truly is as wonderful as everyone thinks, let him gain some experience in the Senate and see who he REALLY is. Once we see proof of his leadership, let him run again in 12-20 years. He needs wisdom.
Posted by: hawk on Nov 3, 2008 at 07:07 AM
As an independent my concern with Obama is if he raises taxas on corporations, since many are foreign owned now, is whether or not they will fold up here in the US. or cut back on labor
Posted by: ky on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:53 AM
How can Obama bankrupt the coal industry. He has to have senate and congress to vote on it. What has MCBUSH done for coal industry? I hope you WVA And OHIO people are smarter than that.
Posted by: Barb on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:52 AM
I have been following this election, hard for over 2 months and let me tell you, the TRUTH is out there, you do the research and DECIDE!! The MSM will not tell you and you are BEING DECIEVED. If you vote the MORAL ISSUES, you will know who to vote for. If you want OUR NATION TO BE CONTROLLED BY OBAMA'S DOMESTIC MILITIA,(THIS IS ON RECORD<) then vote Obama and become a Socialists citizen.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:50 AM
Vote democrat and you bankrupt the state and probably the country. I can understand a democratic vote for someone who deserves it but come on WV Dems wake up Obama is not the man this state or this country needs! How can you vote for this man? We don't even know his true citizenship I have to show my kid's birth certificate (the original) before they can attend kindergarten and we want this poser to run our country....you have to be smarter than that NOBAMA 08!
Posted by: SmearFighter on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:47 AM
Obama is a supporter of so called "clean coal" technology. He's saying in the quote that by using a system of pollution credits.. building an old fashioned NEW coal plant would be prohibitively expensive BUT if the plant was built using clean coal or carbon abatement technologies it would be fine. That way it steers the industry towards building new plants with the clean coal technology that the coal industry, John McCain, Rush Limbaugh, and Barack Obama have all promoted over the last few years.
Posted by: Barbara on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:43 AM
This should be headlines on every news site. WV,Pa,Ky. are you ready to lose your jobs? Email MSN,CBS,ABC,etc.demand this story be announced now!
Posted by: vancav on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:42 AM
First he came for the coal industry, and we said nothing . . . Seeing that cars produce so much greenhouse gases, does Obama have the same plan for the typical driver?
Posted by: Vince Hugh on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:39 AM
This comment by Obama could cost him the election...which means of course we won't hear anything more about it other than here on the internet. Not a chance it will get in the major network TV media. Unfortunately there are too many of these stories on Obama that would make this election more fair, but the media is covering it up. Journalism will never have the respect it once had.
Posted by: Randy on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:39 AM
As a registered democrat and proud union member for years, i say shame on the unions ,rockfeller, byrd, gov.manchin, for putting their support behind such a radical. His ideas will be the downfall of our great country. Think about all of his associations with anti american people. We can either vote for someone who has fought all his life for us or vote for one who has done nothing for us .Palin is the only true candidate for us here in W.V. Get out and spread the word before its too late. I will keep my guns,religion and money., and you can have the change.
Posted by: pb on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:36 AM
maybe, mel, byrd and rockafeller know something you don't.
Posted by: Mike on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:34 AM
we need a law that says that reporters of any kind have a license. skew the truth one time and you find work in another industry like a lawyer who loses his ticket. do not tell the whole truth bye bye. and now that is what is happening to the highest position in the world, let's all lie and get our man elected, and we line up like sheep and let it happen. as has been said 99% of democrats give the rest a bad name. throw out two of the following and you still have a character issue sound like a devil in a blue dress, blue dress, the clinton fight song. we have ayres, rezco, and many more questionable associations and no answers but "WE NEED CHANGE" no we need someone truthful. what are McCains character flaws or association flaws???
Posted by: Vicki on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:30 AM
Too bad the campaign is about to end. The longer we wait, the more we (finally!) learn about Obama. It's beyond me how anyone can vote for a presidential candidate whose claim to fame is being a disruptive community activist and a short term senator who is greatly unappreciated by a majority of citizens from his own state of Illinois. We know he is guilty of the following: wants to bankrupt the coal industry; wants to change the Constitution of the United States; wants to take over our 401K's; wants to 'change' the welfare programs already in place; wants to give social security to illegals...including his aunt, no doubt; wants to rid his campaign of news writers who don't support him; wants to refuse interviews with broadcasters who ask the wrong questions; wants to 'change' the world; wants to increase our taxes; wants to reduce military spending by 25%; wants to make those who disagree with him feel guilty; wants to be associated with and be like questionable people such as Aryes, Wright, Ferrican; wants to let his family members live poor lives; and on and on. And how come we have to show our birth certificate to get drivers licenses? His is 'sealed'! I can't imagine Obama's painting hanging alongside George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, or Thomas Jefferson, just to name a few. None of the nationally-respected financial analysts have endorsed him. It's beyond me why anyone would vote for such a questionable, far-left liberal. Dear God help us, please!
Posted by: Mike on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:29 AM
One day left. This needs to be told in every coal producing state in this nation, particularly Ohio, PA, Indiana, West Virginia, North Carolina, Wyoming, etc. Get out the word. Fast!!
Posted by: I-Rate on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:29 AM
Well, since many of the people who seem to like Obama live in public housing they don't have to pay utility bills, right? Aren't they paid for by us, the working class people in the United States? Wake-up people - if it walks like a socialist, talks like a socialist, it is a socialist!!!!!! We are a capitalist society. The only government-funded "socialist" program should be free daycare for the disadvantaged. Then, they could get a job (mandated) like everyone else and not rely on this as their reason not to work unless they are disabled. Can't wait to hear if Obama's aunt who lives here illegally has VOTED YET???? She has donated to his campaign and been to his rallies. Yet, he doesn't seem to know how to get in touch with her!!!!!! LOL
Posted by: Ralph on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:28 AM
Now how proud are you W,V, folks for being Democrat now.Wake upThe democratic party you joined is now the Republican Party.Your party has turned on you.
Posted by: ron on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:04 AM
Just another last minute desperate try by Palin/McCain. This is OLD news that has always been available. BUT when actually hears or looks at the CONTEXT one finds Obama was really saying the opposite of what Sarah makes it out to be. Typical Rove slimeball.
Posted by: GeraldD on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:50 AM
The other heavy industries in the US will also suffer if Electricity Prices Skyrocket Also hard hit will be the American STEEL industry, and the American ALUMINUM industry. These industries will continue their flight overseas, taking with them lots of good jobs. There are dozens of other American industries that rely upon low cost electricity to survive. Obama's plan will kill those industries too. And when the coal jobs are gone from PA, and WV, and Ohio, a lot of other support jobs will be lost as well. Same for the support industries for the steel industry. And that doesn't even consider the restaurants, insurance agencies, real estate agents, hardware stores, auto parts stores, tire stores, dress shops, and lots of other local businesses that will be put out of business when the coal, steel, and aluminum jobs disappear. And that doesn't consider the impact on housing prices, schools, and residential electric rates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQ
Posted by: Jojo on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:39 AM
This is utter trash. Obama didn't say anything about the coal industry, just about start-up coal plants. Distortion.
Posted by: Me on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:36 AM
I'm glad. Growing up next door has been a health nightmare! Not to mention the paint on the car has peeled- Good ridance! P.S. Wind power blows!!
Posted by: Gary on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:26 AM
Sounds like Barack is one of those (when you in Rome you do as the Romans do canidates. God help us if he goes to Iran for a summit.
Posted by: Mary on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:12 AM
I voted Early and even if I had not this would not have changed my mind. I would still have voted for Obama. McCain and his Barbie are just trying Fear tactics to Scare people in to voting for them!
Posted by: nancy on Nov 3, 2008 at 05:04 AM
See the old old Peter Sellers movie "being there". Obama=chauncey gardner! You will roll over laughing when you see our Obama in that move! Peter's last movie, great too.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:55 AM
WEST VIRGINIA AND OHIO COAL VOTE MCCAIN PALIN.OSAMA ONCE AGAIN IS TRYING TO PUT US BACK INTO THE AGES. THE WRITTINGS ON THE WALL.HE WILL BANKRUPT COAL AND BANKRUPT THE NATION.
Posted by: Nate on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:53 AM
Are all the rest of you commenting on this really that blind? Obama is talking about the need to pursue cleaner technologies, including cleaner coal fired plants. Under a plan to auction CO2 emmisions by unit, a traditional coal fired plant would emit so many units that it would be too expensive to run...so the plant would be forced to pursue a cleaner method or face bankrupcy. Any of you ignorant enough to think that the future president really wants to bankrupt an important US industry are too dumb to cast an informed vote anyway. This is simply one more instance were the McCain campaign has taken something out of context to distract from the real issues and smear Obama.
Posted by: Paulie on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:52 AM
How are the lost billions of taxes from the coal industry going to pay for all Obama's programs? Who's made more money off coal, the companies or government?
Posted by: dee on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:52 AM
McCain told them last night he wouldn't ok new coal mines without the new environmental,clean coal, set ups. that is the same thing Obama said. get a life folks and put in context the whole interview both did. Sheesh, you get an honest politician for once and you all go nuts, and in this instance you got two.
Posted by: nancy on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:49 AM
See? Obama has plans alright. Plans to ruin our economy. How low can he go? He is going to do all kinds of things he hasn't told anyone about. He is going to downsize our military, no new weapons and make us into a country that will lno longer be the strongest. He always LOVES the United Nations and you know what jerks they are! Theives too. We put money into that mess and they steal it and put it in Swiss Banks! Will Obama care? No, he loves Europe and wants us to be socialized like Europe. Kids: vote like your parents not against them! McCain 08
Posted by: Richard on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:40 AM
Palin is lying about the tape being secret and about what Obama said on it. See my post re Palin's lies and coal policy at legalramblings.wordpress.com http://legalramblings.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/sarah-palin-lies-out-of-desperation-about-obamas-coal-policy/
Posted by: Jon on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:29 AM
Well there goes West Virginia, oh that's right we weren't going to win West Virginia anyways! Clean Oxygen is so over rated, who needs clean Oxygen, looking forward to the black lung. That is when I don't have health coverage and I'm sleeping in my car, next to you. That's like him saying Black people were slaves and you going, Obama is for slavery. Way to take it out of context again. This stuff backfires with everyone with a IQ over 80, unless you’re republican and desperate for something. Mars is the 4th planet from the sun, I stated that fact, I must be a Martian!
Posted by: Australian on Nov 3, 2008 at 04:04 AM
Wow, all the loony right wing comments on this blog are sickening. Bottom line is that the Dems will win this election, so best all of you run to your radios and tune in to Rush for a moral lifting rant Nov 5.
Posted by: Crandall on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:52 AM
Obama's from a coal state? What coal state is he from? Wyoming, West Virginia, Colorado and Kansas come to mind...but Obama? From a coal state?
Posted by: Krish on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:05 AM
Obama is talking about imposing a carbon tax on the coal industry when he says they are going to be charged a huge sum. Yes, of course, some coal industries may go bankrupt, but how are you going to get people to change to producing renewable energy and put the money on renewable energy production if you are still in the age-old greenhouse gase generating fossil fuel business?
Posted by: Larry on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:49 AM
These remarks by Obama show an astounding ignorance. People involved in the power generation industry know that the immediate future REQUIRES base load capacity from both coal and nuclear. The most optimistic projections for supplemental energy sources (wind, solar, hydro, geothermal, etc.) is 20%. It seems that one of Obama's changes for the country will be an increasing number of brownouts and blackouts. As do all communists, this one thinks that he has all the answers, and that his answers should be impressed upon everyone else. McCain may not be the best choice for President, but at least he stands with our Founding Fathers in support of individualism and self-responsibility.
Posted by: Confucius Say! on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:46 AM
I told you so! Not the man frum the Congo land.
Posted by: Jack on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:44 AM
thanks WSAZ for letting this be knowen. I know that im not the smartest man in the World (or even the US of America) and im happy that so many watchers of this channel makes such smart points. Obama is a socilaist and as such only want to make things good for terrist freinds like Ayerz
Posted by: Mark on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:43 AM
The latest in a growing catalog of suppressed, ominous quotes from a radical left-wing socialist...and would-be president. Wake up!
Posted by: Gary on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:39 AM
I postd about it here: http://www.letfreedomringblog.com/?p=3354 In my post, I ask if there will even be a coal industry after an Obama administration.
Posted by: lis on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:39 AM
Two-face jerk!
Posted by: clearlyLIBERAL on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:36 AM
Forest for the trees, folks. Things are going to change and you are focused on local issues that are small-bore, compared to the larger issues at stake in the election. Of course Obama is speaking about old business models vs. new business models, but fear is keeping people from acknowledging the reality behind his statements and the awful impulses at work behind the distortion of them. Obama represents the future and is headed for victory. Listening to the people who brought us two terms of George W. Bush is like watching passengers bail out their sinking lifeboat with teaspoons. Free advice: embrace the change and do what you can to make it work! Otherwise a future of anger and bitterness awaits you.
Posted by: Old Bigin on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:24 AM
Hay! get out of bed and off the couch tuesday or they won't nobody be getting any checks in WV! It's McCain/Palin and Weeks or else!
Posted by: John on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:17 AM
I guess the word is not out yet that Pelosi is a big supporter and has invested a lot of her own money with Boone Pickens.....wake up people....follow the money!!!!
Posted by: VOTE NOBAMA on Nov 3, 2008 at 02:06 AM
VOTE EARLY / VOTE OFTEN Before more TRUTH is found out about our OBAMA. LOCK in your VOTES today before you change your mind. `
Posted by: Evan on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:45 AM
Socialism. Grrr. Scary. Funny how so many of you are frightened by that word. You know, stuff like Medicaid, Public Works, Libraries. All those, evil, evil things.
Posted by: Dave on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:37 AM
CNN is trying to act like this is an old story but as http://bizzyblog.com/ObamaSFchronInterview011708.html reports that: "NewsBuster Tom Blumer did a search and quickly discovered that Obama’s anti-coal comments were not reported by the paper that conducted the interview" and even if it wasn't, does that make it any better that Obama would want to help destroy this industry that supplies so many men and women around this country with good paying jobs?! Barack Obama is always changing...depending on who he is talking to. He's got four or five faces. He's sure using at least 2 to talk about coal!
Posted by: Todd on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:36 AM
The sad thing is that as far as I can tell the main stream media is still burying this story! Like my professors always told us - when all else fails, look at the facts.
Posted by: smc341 on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:24 AM
This video has been available at the SFGate website for months (since Jan.) there are comments posted there from January and no one noticed it till November??? Does anyone think that 4 years ago it would have taken Rove & Co. 10 months to find these statements??? WTF is wrong with the Republican Party of 2008????
Posted by: bud foster on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:23 AM
obama your the stupidest democrat ive ever seen, are you friggin nuts . this coal miner(umwa fayette county) on the fence is now on the mccains side.
Posted by: My Own Life on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:18 AM
First of all if any of you care to re-read the statements above then you will see that Palin ADDED words where there shouldn't have been and second of all,How many of you would like to see another 4 years of a Bush admin?YES I WILL vote for Obama because this country can't take another 4 yrs of a Bush wanna be running us into the ground.Say what you will about Obama but not one of you can deny that a Republican is what got us into the mess we're in now over the last 8 yrs. And if you pay closer attention to Obama then you will realize that he's not trying to shut down anything,he's trying to PHASE IN newer plants that better support you,your state,your lives and making it cleaner and safer for you to work in and your families to live. newer Facilities = MORE JOBS!!
Posted by: Ace Tomato on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:17 AM
No matter how Obama tries to blame this on McCain, Palin or Bush - you can hear Obama in his own words on tape and judge for yourself: http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
Posted by: Kim on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:14 AM
Obama has been deceiving the American people the entire campaign,with the help of the media.First,his tax plan,which has changed from $250,000 down to $120,000,and the fact that he has voted 94 times to raise taxes.The most troubling facts are his friends and close associates who hate America.GOOGLE: Obama/Odinga,Obama/Ayers,Obama/Jeremiah Wright,Obama/Farrahkan,Obama/Rezko.The list could go on,but these are enough to prove his questionable judgement,and desire to change America from a democracy to a socialist/Marxist country.Go to the polls on Tuesday and let Obama know that our Democracy isn't for sale.VOTE JOHN MCCAIN and vote COUNTRY FIRST! Obama wants to remove the secret ballot,and diminish free speech.
Posted by: Air Force Wife on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:14 AM
I encourage people to email this info to EVERYONE you know! People need to hear the TRUTH before they vote (if they haven't already). Obama will RUIN this country! He will RAISE TAXES, destroy our American businesses, increase our utility costs, etc. PLEASE, PLEASE tell EVERYONE you know to NOT vote for Obama!!! Please, PLEASE pray that McCain gets elected!! He is a TRUE American Patriot! I have family in West Virginia who have worked in Coal Mines... I don't want people like them to lose their jobs!
Posted by: Joseph on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:07 AM
if this Country votes in Obama, you all deserve what change he will bring to you, like Ho Chi Mihn, brought South East Asia! So be warned by a combat wounded Marine, "welcome to the jungle with us folks. Now if you elect this young egotistic man be prepared for very hard socialist life in soup lines while your FAMILY stave. Like we who fought for you protected, will never understand freedom unit you experience losing it. What a bunch of sad people my generation has left over after all the real brave patriots died in WW 1 WW2 etc. You have learned nothing but weakness and greed.
Posted by: Listener on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:06 AM
I understand The campaign for Republican presidential candidate John McCain aren't very intelligent but you'd think they could process simple English. Obama understands Coal is the backbone of the US wealth and supplies most of its energy needs. You just have to develop clean-burning technology for producing energy. And make the mines safer for coal miners! My father, grandfather, and great-grandfather were coal miners from Scotland, came to America in 1912. I've been down a deep shaft more than once in my life, and it takes a special kind of person to go down into hell.
Posted by: Granny on Nov 3, 2008 at 01:03 AM
Come on now, y'all. Can't u see the McCain camp is trying to fool u? Ain't it funny how this just came up...right before Election Day. CHECK FOR YOURSELVES!!! MCCAIN'S PLAN IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO OBAMA'S.
Posted by: Mike on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:58 AM
That's not what he said at all. He said it will bankrupt them. He said nothing of clean coal. Nor of any support for coal at all. His mouth piece attack dogs have it wrong as usual. Too bad they always have to put words into his mouth to defend his stupid remarks.
Posted by: exampl4all on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Ladies and gentlemen we can choose to keep depending on coal to support this state or we can choose to find other valuable resources to build this states ecconomy upon. This in no way means we dont respect what coal has done in this state, country, and world. It just means we are willing to accept that the future of this state lies elsewhere! Voting for Obama is not a vote against coal, but a vote for a future initially secured by our coal resources until new alternative fuels can be created more ecconomically. It is time we look ahead!
Posted by: Texas Tea on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:56 AM
I HOPE YOU SHEEPLE FINALLY WAKE UP AND REALIZE THIS OBAMA SOCIALIST WANTS TO CRIPPLE OUR COUNTRY.
Posted by: Swienholt on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:55 AM
It's really funny to listen to these characters csting doubt on Obama. They are probably the same ones who voted Bush a 2nd term. Surely Obama won't cause 4000 US soldiers to die unnecessarily. McCain has already bought into more dying in Iraq. Does anybody in the Republican party have ANY sense?
Posted by: Christy on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:54 AM
I have never been "afraid" of a political candidate in my life, but I am terrified of an Obama presidency. In his book, Obama made it a point to say that he carefully chose his friends, so I take him at his word. Someone who carefully chooses their friends ends up with close associations with known terrorist William Ayers (Obama wrote a forward for one of Ayers' books and Ayers hosted a party for Obama at his house) and Jeremiah Wright (remember Wright called America: US of KKKA) as a pastor for 20 years? Rezko, et al . . . Obama couldn't even pass the security requirements to be a Secret Service Agent based on his ties, but we want him for President? I feel like the people who show up at these rallies have been enticed with grandiose speeches, but they do not know who Obama truly is. The mainstream media did more research on "Joe the Plumber" in one week than they have done on Obama's entire presidential run. Please pray for this county and vote for McCain!!!!!!
Posted by: MichaelC on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Yes, Obama is for the blue collar folks! Hope, Change! Have the little bumpkins left the room? Hello my esteemed friends he in SF, Coal? no way, we'll put those coal miners on unemployment and then recruit them for my new Civilian National Security Force! Wake up folks, this guy, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama appointed judges are going to be the Four Horseman to our economic strength & freedom. Well intentioned or not, it is the results that matter. His economic views are frightening
Posted by: sicko on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:44 AM
only thing worse than a redneck is a republican redneck! John Grasping AT Straws McCain is going down as the most frantic campaigner in history for pulling out all the BS he can muster and the good cop/bad cop thing he had going wasn't even working so he threw in that towel too. If he had just "stayed the course" a little longer on any one of his many tactics (or strategies) perhaps educated voters would be more inclined to fall for his antics. Truth told, if we don't change our ways, we will get stomped on by the bigger bullies in this world!Obama change we can BELIEVE IN!
Posted by: erik on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:41 AM
You people are all mentally ill. It is so scary to see America turn into something as grotesque as this. You people need help.
Posted by: thinkahead on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Face it. It is time for west virginia to find another way o compete in this world, rather than raping the mountains of all the fossil fuel.you know it took 360 MILLION YEARS to make that coal we wil have burned up in only a couple hundred total. Time to look for new answers and maybe your family members wont have to die in a mine or of black lung for the few thousand dollars they make! Obama for the future of this planet Obama08
Posted by: paul on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Here we go again..His entourage is saying his comments are taken "out of context". Finally we see who Obama is. His interviews,papers, school grades are being hidden by his cronies. We are only getting a glimpse of the real Obama.
Posted by: DestinyBender on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Shuck 'n Jive, Shuck 'n Jive. Dance Obama -Dance. White is Black, up is down, Left is Wright and OBlah Blah thinks you're all stupid.
Posted by: casey on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:32 AM
it doesn't matter how old this audio is,saying your policies are gonna make prices skyrocket and makecoal industries is huge.you say yur for middle class yet your let millions lose jobs.obma is a liar.i'm glad i didn't vote yet!
Posted by: bj mac on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:31 AM
how long does a dog have to be kicked before it growls..how long do the republicans promise you more jobs and a better life, before you say enough..i don't buy it anymore?
Posted by: Harry on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Hey guys...Your from West Virginia...Your all idiots that never went to college....Obama will be the greatest thing to ever happen to your white trash existance..
Posted by: Ervin on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Once again if you take ant words and take them out of context you can make them say and mean anything you want. Now the trick for the American people is to research on their own and not to rely on politicians to tell us what others are saying and meaning. I have heard Obama say many times that CLEAN coal technology is needed to help wean us from oil. He is from Illinois which is a coal producing state but we are to lazy to figure that out. So I will tell you he is not against coal or he would not be a Senator from a coal producing state. Now would he?
Posted by: Dave on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:17 AM
If any of you in the coal industry are voting for "change", you're almost guaranteed to get your wish. There's a good chance you'll be getting a change in your employment status. . . . . . . Look at the bright side, you'll have some spare time to catch up on those home repairs you've been putting off and you'll get a nice little tax break on that unemployment check.
Posted by: tommycanuhearme? on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:17 AM
The stuff that comes out of Obama's mouth is unbelievable! But no one ever hears it because the media has been consciously covering for him since day one (sorry, Hillary...I borrowed your line...)
Posted by: anniebananie on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM
thank goodness I DID NOT VOTE EARLY. I AM CHANGING TO MCCAIN
Posted by: Bob on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM
It's been absolutely disgusting the way the media and entertainment community have been nothing but an extension of this marxist's campaign. I feel like I'm behind enemy lines on the west coast. Many of us are praying that all of you in the states that can make a difference will awaken and put an end to this.
Posted by: ron on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Nothing but morons post on this article comments. It's so obvious how the mccain campaign is struggling to smear obama out of desperation. They continually throw out the most rediculous accusations, and everyone on these comment pages jumps right on board.
Posted by: Dan on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM
This Obama character:where did he come from? Who is he? Why is he qualified or allowed to threaten to bankrupt an industry?
Posted by: William Hawks on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM
The McCain campaign is once again distorting Obama's message. Even more remarkable going back to January to do so. Will a President McCain take 9 to 10 months to deal with any "3 AM emergency calls " ? Obviously, McCain's campaign which travels on negative political ads seems to lack the ability to spend much research time finding information on his political opponent which has been available to the public for many months. McCain and his campaign staff are obviously slow and lazy. If their example of operating the White House is the same as their campaign work , then a McCain presidency would be incapable of dealing with any national crisis to occur on their watch.
Posted by: Anita on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Obama is going to bankrupt this entire nation. His positions and policies will stunt our economy and keep us dependent on foreign oil. He is too elite and indifferent to help America become stronger during this critical time.
Posted by: libertarian on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:11 AM
are you people for real? Are you that dumb to believe that an interview that was done almost a year ago is coming out now? Do you have any sense at all? Get educated! McCain has EXACTLY the same policy. Check his website. WOW are you gullible!!!!
Posted by: Richard Z on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:02 AM
The goal of these Democrat Communists is to bankrupt the USA to make us equally poor as the rest of the Socialist world. They stopped the drilling in Alaska 7 years ago and started the big oil price increases and they gave away loans to people who couldn't repay them with the intent of destroying the banks. The welfare state is an upside down pyramid, the point is the people paying taxes the top heavy base is the welfare, disability, and government payroll. The pyramid will topple and all hell will break loose.
Posted by: James on Nov 3, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Come on folks, Senator Obama is not about WV or its citizens. He is all about the power and growing Big Government. I continue to be amazed by this debate, he's really done nothing but get elected to the Senate and then begin his run for the White House. We can't afford him and his tax and spend friends on the left.
Posted by: I get the message loud and clear on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:57 PM
I guess will will all go bankrupt too paying for our electric bills
Posted by: Jack Kennedy on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:57 PM
I hope all you coal states enjoy the coming massacre - you deserve it for even letting obama making past the primaries - and the rest of America is going to laugh at your pain Enjoy jimmy carter2, you obama sycophants are going to deserve the guilt.
Posted by: Bob on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM
To those of you who are "blaming" the republicans for bringing this up at the end of the game, well the truth of the matter is, they didn't do their homework early enough in the campaign or this would have been out sooner for the most impact. However, they can't talk about what doesn't exist and cleary, Barack Obama made these comments, he gave them the ammunition, they did not fabricate it. Further, in this same interview, he also warns that under his policies, energy prices for consumers, particularly electricity, will soar. So, for those of you who depend on coal plants to earn a living, not only will your job be in danger, it will be increasingly more difficult for you to afford power to your home. I'm not sure how much more we need to hear from Obama's own lips to convince us that his "change" is not the right "change" for our country. It would not be wise for any potential POTUS to devise plans to bankrupt any industry, especially without offering an alternate source of jobs...
Posted by: Bill on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM
so Obama was taken out of context...yeah right! despite wanting to get rid of coal, he said (lied) in the debates that he was for coal. Let me hazzard a guess, despite this revelation, the coal workers unions and associated union will still vote for this marxist socialist. guess I will have to be "selfish" and "cling to my guns and faith"
Posted by: Deborah on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM
The coal industry isn't the only thing Obama is going to bankrupt. He'll bankrupt all wage earners and the U.S.
Posted by: Helen on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM
It will be a sad, sad day when they swear Obama in as President. Will he swear on a bible or the kouran? He doesn't care about the poor people, by poor I mean not a rich man like him. He travels in rich circles. Both he & his pompus wife look down on all of us. Now if you are Oprah or some other entertainer, then you are A-ok. He cares nothing about WV or the people in it. We are a poor state and he definitely doesn't want coal mining. We'll see how well the mine companies do after he is elected. He is our saviour, he is going to make everything right. People wake up and think hard before you vote on Tuesday, but, GO Vote!
Posted by: McCain/Palin on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Obama stupid? Didn't Sarah Palin say that it violated her 1st Amendment rights to have the media question her speach? Didn't she also think prank callers were the President of France. Obama a meglomaniac? Doesn't John McCain say "I know what to do, I know how to do thus and so?" Why won't he tell us what he plans to do? Because his EGO is so BIG thath doesn't think that he has to. Tax cuts for the rich worked when their taxes were too high, but I have yet to have a Republican explain how when Clinton raised the top marginal rate the economy grew and jobs were create. Yet, when Bush cut taxes the economy stagnated and jobs were lost. But hey, $600 billion was redistributed to the rich. In addition to being the same on policy, Bush and McCain both benefited from their fathers' and grandfathers' goverment and military positions. Talk about communism. It is McCain and Bush who believe in only having a lower class and the ruling class. McCain is the liar. Palin is a fraud.
Posted by: Tom on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I don't know who will win on Tuesday but when the dust settles the biggest loser will be the media. It's incredible that Obama's coal comments, made in Jamuary, have been kept from the voters until now. What else is the press holding back?
Posted by: WakeUp on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Folks - wake up or lose your country. The mainstream media are totally corrupt, otherwise Obama would have zero chance. He IS a Socialist, and has no love for the idea of a Free and Prosperous America. The "change" he wants is to undermine the Constitution, Capitalism, Freedom and - last but not least - the sovereignty of America. If we had a fair press Obama would be asked if he would be willing to repudiate Socialsim, and he'd respond with the Mother of all Spin.
Posted by: Michael on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Bankrupting the coal industry is not all Obama will bankrupt. All those Obama supporter's in the big unions will end up in soup line with the rest of us.Obama is not a savior, he the devil in sheep's clothes.
Posted by: Nova on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I think a good president should feel comfortable when some large sectors of industry goes bankrupt....well maybe not..holysh*t .OMG, stop the 4 million dollar party in Chicago!
Posted by: o on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:42 PM
o is a filthy communist swine - if he wins there will be a revolution
Posted by: Jack Hammer on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Surprise, surprise! Obama caught in another moment of extreme leftist turpitude. Wake up Americans before it's too late 4 years of this creep will wreck the country.
Posted by: kittie on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM
OK, Lets see if the left can spin Obamas own exact words. Well mabye, if his campagin had enough time they would have you believe that in fact :The One: never said it. In other words do you want to believe the left or do you want to believe your own ears? Please listen to the tape!
Posted by: Terry on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I work in a coal fired power plant and needless to say I am extremely scared of this man (Obama). I have been worried about him for a long time now, and everything that continues to be revealed about him just drives home the point that he will be bad for America. I just can't believe that any rational person could take an honest look at Obama's "accomplishments" and cast a vote for him.
Posted by: Jim on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I wouldn't get too outraged by Obama's statements. John McCain has the same policy regarding "cap and trade" policies for carbon emissions including those from coal plants, http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/da151a1c-733a-4dc1-9cd3-f9ca5caba1de.htm.
Posted by: SK on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Wow! I wish I lived in your town--you guys have great news folks who don't hide stories from the public. Whatever the Obama camp says, you can't argue with his own words. Get on YOU TUBE and listen for yourself. And this time, he can't blame it on Joe the Plumber.
Posted by: harold on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:31 PM
At present, no one is building anything in the USA, from coal fired plants to new home starts, thanks to the financial panic, which Wall Street caused by selling near worthless securities by the trillions worldwide. Palin should stick to stories about Joe the unlicensed plumber and his plans to start an unlicensed plumbing business (probably with off the book workers).
Posted by: TruthTeller on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:28 PM
The racists are really having a fit about a black man becoming President. I would really like to meet the god that some of you are praying to. I believe Satan has a special place reserved in Hell for these Republican bigots.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Go on and vote for him, sheep. Every one that was on the coal union ship better be looking at him a little different.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:26 PM
last time i check you can only get 6 to 8 slices out of one pie yes nobama has some very serious emotional problems mccain 08
Posted by: thesiege on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Obama equals socialism. All of you who are successful, are going to be penalized for it. He will make us a third world country and make it possible for Chavez, Il, and the little iranian to nuke us back to the stone age. God help us. America wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama cannot be trusted. McCain/Palin '08!
Posted by: American Girl on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:25 PM
I'm voting for the McCain/Palin ticket!
Posted by: Wobbly on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:24 PM
If one reads any of the accounts of the early unionization efforts in our country one will see similar comments being spoken about Obama today. Some of the headlines described the union movement as seditious, lawless, etc. Today I'm sure West Virginia's miners are glad for their union even though it is very much a socialist and anti-capitalist institution. What would really be wrong with the workers of the world owning the factories and sharing the wealth instead of getting a wage while one or two get rich? If you thought hard about it I bet you would find the idea appealing.
Posted by: sara on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Democrats are into financial schemes that bankrupt America (defeat Capitalism). They created the housing crash by using private banks and their low income housing program. They will join the folly of charging for carbon and bankrupt our energy companies.
Posted by: MrObvious on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Y'all just don't get it. This interview was done last January but the Obama loving media did not jump on it. They do not want you to know the truth about Obama because they support him. Everything is not some sort of Republican conspiracy. Obama has said so many radical things on camera that nothing has to be made up. Of course his campaign hoped that you'd not hear about all of Obama's loony ideas until AFTER the election. Vote Early, wonder why the Dems are pushing that? LOL
Posted by: PAvoter on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:20 PM
OK, please, please, please do your research, people, and stop relying on Palin's speeches and smear ads to form your oh-so-uninformed opinions! McCain ALSO supports a cap and trade system for carbon emissions! So Obama's and McCain's policies about this are pretty much the same. McCain's plan, just like Obama's, would cap coal (and, yes, coal jobs), too. So before you start blasting Obama, realize that McCain has said he believes in doing the same thing...even if he plays the hypocrite and chooses to smear Obama for sharing his beliefs! And, for the record, the coal miners are onto McCain, who calls himself a so-called "coal booster." Check this out from the United Mine Workers of American (UMWA) -- http://www.umwa.org/index.php?q=compac/real-mccain-record-coal. I rest my case!
Posted by: jay on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:15 PM
All of you West Virginians are backwoods cousin kissers. You'd be lucky to have Obama as your president. I wish we could give you Deliverance type black lungers back to the British!
Posted by: hunkerdown on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Are all you folks crazy???? Obama is the only canidate that has a comprehensive energy plan that makes sense. Drill baby drill, or dig baby dig, is not going to solve our problems. We need ALL of his intiatives ( which includes drilling and digging ) but includes solar, wind and green energy. Get with it folks. Your future is in your hands. Vote Obama '08
Posted by: Howard on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:14 PM
The coal industry is as sleazy as it gets: literally destroying West Virginia from top to bottom, criminally lobbying the nations public utility commissions to "super size" your energy rates, super heating the atmosphere with CO2 and baking the planet, while all the while asphyxiating the rest of us killing 10,000's of people year in places like Ohio, and of course causing childhood asthma rates that are off the charts. There are some truly @!%!@%!@ fools in this country still desperately clinging to the the Republican party (that would be GOP for those in place like Oregon where they are afraid to even go by the name Republican). It is time to take the trash out; after 8 years it stinks to high #@%#@!! These fools need to be in prison..
Posted by: paul on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:11 PM
evidently, folks in wv enjoy being robbed blind and lied to by the right wing. who among you doesn't want to build plants that use coal more efficiently? you really think mccain and palin care about you or your problems? they say a nation gets the leadership it deserves. going by the comments here, the rest of the nation deserves better than what wv is willing to ask for.
Posted by: Sandy Underpants on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Yeah, that no good Obama putting the environment and Americans health first really stinks. I don't think McCain is going to win by siding against the Environment and siding with billionaires, yet reading the comments here, there are a lot of stupid people. So I guess that demographic is going McCain, and it's a pretty big Demo.
Posted by: Ed G on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Within the last hour, the San Francisco Chronicle has pointed out that Sarah Palin was once again duped--this time by a conservative blogger site. Her comments about Obama's comments on the coal industry are untrue (is that surprising?) Please get the true story from the Chronicle's site: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL Within this link are further links to the complete interview and have been available online for over 10 months. No one is hiding anything (except maybe some of Palin's advisors who led her down the primrose path on this issue--again, what else is new?). Here's the full interview, available online to anyone (for the last 10 or 11 months! Some liberal media conspiracy, huh??): http://cdn.sfgate.com/blogs/sounds/sfgate/chroncast/2008/01/17/20080117-obama-interview.mp3 What he actually said (paraphrased) was: the idea that we can go with a "no coal" option is an ILLUSION. So the alternative is to figure out how to make it a clean energy source and if we do that, we have no alternative but to pursue it. But for coal-powered plants that emit pollutants, there will be a severe penalty that will be used to finance research into clean-coal technologies (among other alternative energy sources). In fact, listening to the entire interview is a fascinating, thoughtful, and impressive look at the mind of Senator Obama. Well worth the hour! Thanks to Sarah, listening to the entire interview will likely convince others to vote Obama (remember, these are his positions from last January--and remarkably consistent with his positions today). Again, thanks Sarah for pointing out this remarkable interview that has been publicly available for most of the entire year. But you wouldn't try to mislead us this close to the election, would you??
Posted by: ks8628 on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Finally the truth be told. He is a psychopath and I want to part of him. I think if he is elected, we will have a broken country and people in it. Our whole city is fueled by coal. I guess when he said we should reduce our heat to 68, he meant it, more like not at all.
Posted by: Ron on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Its only coming out now because the tape of the interview just surfaced. The "reporters" had deleted the part where Obama says he will tax the coal industry out of existence because they knew it would kill him as a candidate. Listen to the tape, its very important, its your jobs and livelihood thats in deadly danger. Call and send the tape to everyone you know, this is something the MSM will suppress if they can.
Posted by: Brian on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:06 PM
That's a disingenuous interpretation of what Obama was saying. Funny how they can't quote what he said without adding, subtracting or changing words to cast what he said in a false light. Eat those lies up you conservatives. If you win, you'll come to enjoy your just deserts in the same way you blindly voted for Bush. Now look what your mess has turned into, and how much we hate that man for putting us in this abusive war? If McCain gets in, we'll have plenty more for you Christians with battered wife syndrome. Don't you love the abuse?
Posted by: WV4McCain on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Finally someone else reporting the lies of Obama/Biden. Please watch the FoxNewsChannel for more information about Obama misleading the American People and his dirty deals and the scary people he is and has been spending time with. Tell everyone to watch Hannity. Please vote for John McCain for President of the United States of America! Together we can do it!
Posted by: Carol on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Anyone who votes for Obama/Biden needs to have their head examined! Look at the people he associates himself with; he sprews one lie after another. I believe the terrorists are waiting to strike until after this election and if people are stupid enough to vote for these two clowns, then I hope these same people go down with the next attack!
Posted by: MARTIN COUNTY on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:01 PM
.....AND OUR GOOD OLE UMWA IS ENDORSING THIS MAN????? WAY TO GO, GUYS!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 2, 2008 at 11:01 PM
he and mccain are more than likely both liars just like any other person in the house.
Posted by: Mary on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:59 PM
The only reason this has not come out before is because the MSM has been so in the tank for Obama. Obama's so called "green jobs" will all have to be paid for by the tax payers. Coal, Oil and Nuclear Power jobs will pay for themselves and create 100s of thousands of new jobs. Obama is on the record against drilling for new oil, coal and nuclear power. Obama wants us all to go back to the stone age and live in the dark. Remember what Obama said. Obama" You can't drive your SUVs, eat all you want and keep your thermostat at 72 degrees, I won't allow it".
Posted by: Bill on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Why has the Obama Campaign removed it's webpage on coal? What are they trying to suddenly hide? This is straight out of 1984. See for yourself: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/EnvironmentFactSheet.pdf
Posted by: WV4McCain on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Please make sure that you tell everyone that you know to vote for John McCain. Send friends and relatives from out of state this information about Obama. We can't let him RULE "OUR" Country! I'm doing my part, please help me to elect John McCain President of the United States of America! Obama gives me nightmares! McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: Leslie on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:57 PM
He's going to tank the economy. You can't bankrupt an industry while researching or transferring to an alternative fuel source. Do you know how many jobs will be lost? If he gets in we're completely screwed. Welcome to the next Depression.
Posted by: Lomack on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I am so sick of the continuing coverage of the religious right and their alleged overwhelming support of McCain/Palin. Faith is one thing, ignorance quite another. They say the election is in the hands of God. Whatever happens will be God's will. Please .... if McCain wins they will praise God. If Obama wins, they will say it is the work of the Devil. Some faith they have! If it is in the hands of God, then it will be God's will when Obama is elected won't it? Can you say HYPOCRISY?
Posted by: Ohio44 on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Ohio and Pennsylvania have got your back, West Virginia! You are a muched loved neighbor and we will make sure we don't vote for him on Tuesday! Dem or Rep isn't important right now. Vote to save our country - vote McCain!
Posted by: Heather on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:42 PM
And also, you people act as if a President can change anything at the flick of a wrist. Most of you forget basic "checks and balances" that goes on in the different branches of federal government. This is basic elementary history and I suggest you have your child(ren) re-educate you on this if you have forgot.
Posted by: Sean on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:41 PM
I can't vote for a man who will do away with the Coal Industry. McCain-Palin on Tuesday.
Posted by: Vote Obama!!! on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:41 PM
More proof that Obama isn't ready to be president
Posted by: brimstone jr. on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Too bad the Utah Independent newspaper won't release the tape where Palin says that Israel should fall and McCain states that coal is from the fiery pits of hell. I wish they would. Maybe some Evangelicals would stay home and not cast a vote for the end times.
Posted by: Heather on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:40 PM
And in case you were wondering, the Repubs don't release things such as this til days before Election Day because it's a short time frame to retailiate. Political press journalists (from BOTH sides) take things out of context that BOTH Obama and McCain sometimes say. It's when you realize this, that you can make an educated decision and vote.
Posted by: D. Marshall on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I hope the people have come to realize "the one" is a liar. The only thing you can be sure of are his method of central government (read Marxist) control. What president has ever stepped in to bankrupt an American industry? OUTRAGEOUS!
Posted by: Scott on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I pray that Ohio, W. Virginia and Pennsylvania takes a hard look at Obama. He is a liar and a weasel who seems to have many in these great states snowed. I pray they see the light and help shut his miserable campaighn of lies down. Bless you folks.
Posted by: matt on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:37 PM
God Help Us if Obama wins!!!
Posted by: Heather on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Mike-I'm sure plenty of other people have said that West Virginian's cling to guns and God. What else would explain why Byrd and Rockefeller are career politicians and that most people said they didn't vote Obama in the primaries "because he's black"? And FYI, in case you were wondering, I voted Clinton in the primaries and will be voting Obama in the election.
Posted by: A. Lendel on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:35 PM
If Obama is against our coal then he is against our way of life. He will destroy us and send all of our jobs overseas. Obama is to liberal for us!
Posted by: Alex on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I wonder how many of us will be bankrupt after a couple years of Obama.
Posted by: Sheri on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:30 PM
How will anyone lose their mining jobs from a possible plant that has yet to be built bankrupting a coal company. If they just follow the clean air technology and not pollute they can build all they want. Some of you are truly morons. Why would you want a dirty coal plant? Those are for China. Remember all of the fuss about the pollution in China during the Olympics? That is the reality of dirty coal technology. And some of you complain about abortion. How many kids will destroying the ozone kill?
Posted by: S. Slaughter on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:29 PM
I am voting on three issues: abortion, homosexuality, and future judges. Obama fails to pass the 'smell' test on these issues. NObama.
Posted by: Bill on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Yes THANK YOU WSAZ for covering this story. Media outlets in WV would take a serious hit from such a idiotic policy. When our miners can't work and our coal plants can't produce electricity feasibly, the consumers in our region can't spend, so there would be no reason for companies to advertise on WSAZ.
Posted by: TuxGuys on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM
You know, I haven't made up my mind yet... my issues are essentially lower taxes, less government regulation, and national security... if B. Hussein Obama has successfully convinced me by election day that he's the best guy for these issues, he's got my vote.
Posted by: Paul on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I don't know why you McCain supporters think this is so bad because McCain supports such policies. It is called cap and trade and since coal plants cause the most pollution they would have to buy numerous credits to operate - which would hence bankrupt them (or make it unprofitable for them to operate). So sad you are all grasping at straws.
Posted by: Dave on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Obama wrong for America and West Virginia! Vote McCain-Palin Tuesday!
Posted by: Paul on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM
More lies from the right wing spinsters. Want the truth? Perhaps you'd like it straight from the source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL
Posted by: Tony on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:25 PM
This type of thing is exactly why Obama has been urging people to vote early. The Obama camp knows the media is on their side but they also know there are some journalists left that will get the truth out. Obama wants people to vote before they learn the truth about him. I'm glad I decided to hold off until Tuesday. My vote is going to McCain.
Posted by: John on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Unbelievable!!! I call on Cecil Roberts, the President of the UMWA to pull his endorsemet from Senator Obama and endorse John McCain. Mr Roberts, pull your endorsement now! Do not endorse a man that wants to destroy the very industry & jobs you've been elected to protect. Mr. Roberts, stand up for what is right, endorse John McCain NOW!!!
Posted by: louis garcia on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:24 PM
You obama supporters be careful what you wish for its just transparent. Higher taxes and change will occure for the worst for you and me. obama and his outlaws will benefit.
Posted by: Kay on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Hensley...I'm a senior and I've been awake for a long time on this election! Now we've gotten yet another Obama destruction plan for America! Those of you in OH, PA, VA or any other Coal producing states...sure hope YOU are awake! And to the rest of the country....If you like becoming a socialist country, paying higher taxes, paying higher electricity bills, waiting in lines to get that great health care he's promising you..go ahead and vote for him. Me? I prefer to live free! Vote McCain/Palin!
Posted by: Brian on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM
And to think The UMWA endorsed this clown. He has no intentions of helping out WV coal miners and never did. UMWA should be ashamed of thier leadership.
Posted by: Wendy Olson on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Interesting how my senator harry reid (she says gagging) hasn't said much about this considering Vegas is powered by a coal plant north of the city. How long before that one is taxed out of existance and Vegas goes dark? Oh, silly me....harry reid will suddenly be in favor of coal.
Posted by: bob on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM
This is classic double-speak. On one hand, Obama is trying to appease the global warming crowd, and by trying to re-state what he said originally, he's trying to make happy the coal industry folks. Barrack, you can't have it both ways my man. Say what you mean, and mean what you say.
Posted by: sDee on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:21 PM
WSAZ - I HOPE YOU ARE RUNNING A STORY ON THIS IN THE MORNING _ WE NEEDTO ALL HEAR THE REST OF THIS STORY.
Posted by: Lawrence on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Study Revolations in the Bible! There is strong evidence that he is the Anti-Christ, or atleast an agent of the Devil. Look at the signs: - Socialism - Wealth redistribution - Civilian security squad, ie. Hitlers SS - Musim ties - Highly suspect associations with other agents of Satan, ie. Ayers, Wright - Polished speaker to the point of hypnotic - Favors abortion on demand including partial birth. A vote for Obama is a vote to surrender your freedom. With that said, peer pressure is very high when you are in a fenzied crowd all chanting Obama mantras. However when that curtain in the voting booth closes no one can see you so you have one last opportunity to do the right thing and keep Obama out. You can always rejoin the crowd outside the polling place and continue the chants knowing you did your part to save this country. Pray earnestly before you vote for guidance. If you don't believe in prayer you have made my point!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dan on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:18 PM
If this does not prove how BIAS the media is, nothing will.
Posted by: businessownerforObama on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Shame on you wsaz for posting this. Mccain supports the same thing, and is only spinning it in a desperate attempt to scare people into voting for him. Its a typical Rovian tactic, and by reporting it, you're helping to spread ignorance. SHAME SHAME SHAME!
Posted by: Josefina on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:15 PM
In the last week, I have gone from a sure-fire Obama voter to a McCain voter. This topic makes me happy that I did not early vote for Obama because I cannot vote for someone who would make such comments. I can't understand why this information wasn't communicated by the media before now!?!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:14 PM
As important as coal is to our region, cleaner alternative energy is more important to our country and world.
Posted by: Susan on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:13 PM
So where's the original tape? I'm sick of them taking things out of context. Sounds to me like Obama wants to save the environment.
Posted by: Donna on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Anyone if it's possible to cancel a vote? I can't believe how stupid I was...
Posted by: Megan on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM
The recording of the interview has been on the San Francisco Chronicle's website since January. The RNC did not pay attention to it until now. The following is a link to the SF Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL
Posted by: Joe Mama on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Let the coal companies go bankrupt. I don't want to hear you fat houseswives that live in mobile homes talk about your husband keeping my lights burning. I am on solar power! USA should seriously look at nuclear power. Miners, go out and get an education if you want a job that pays well.
Posted by: Jason on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM
You poor fools. After 8 years of a completely crooked, lying, graft ridden regime, you're worried about the "coal factor?" You won't have to worry if MCCookoo is elected. After he gives away his 300 billion dollar rescue package to giant corps., you'll be sitting on the street corner in front of that house you used to own, waiting to be trickled down upon. Really pathetic.
Posted by: Waitingfortuesday on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM
"OOO Something 'negative' about Obama for me to jump on and sound like a BIG IDIOT!!!!!" McCain said essentially the same thing as Obama. At http://presidentialprofiles2008.org/McCain/tab2.html in his statement about global warming and energy he says, "I support a national greenhouse gas emission cap and trade regimen that includes responsible emission limits and allows market forces to determine how best to meet them. Such a regimen will provide a decisive economic incentive for power producers to maximize the capture of carbon emissions. Clearly, a utility that builds a new coal plant without factoring in the inevitable curbs on carbon emissions necessary to combat climate change or the market opportunities of limiting such emissions would be doing a disservice both to their customers and stockholders. Accordingly, I believe that new coal plants should be constructed in a manner that is capture-ready, and can accommodate the retrofit of this technology as it advances."
Posted by: Splash on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Just emailed this article to the Pittsburgh post-gazette. Hope they print it. I'm in California, people. I'm counting on you. Get us out of this!!C'mon Charlie, you too. Nobama
Posted by: Ryan Somma on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM
According to the Chronicle, you are making this up: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL
Posted by: Heath on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Honestly, this guy scares me. I am sooooooo confused by the American public on this one.
Posted by: Joe on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Newsbusters made this up. (This link from the SF Chronicle's Website explains it: http://tinyurl.com/5bvumq.) There is no hidden audio -- the Chronicle made the actual interview public earlier this year. Even Hillary knew about it. Palin just proved how gullible she is again by taking something as gospel without even checking its authenticity. In fact, in the real interview, Obama said the idea of getting rid of coal-fired plants is "an illusion." (And he's right -- there's no way America can realistically eliminate coal from our current energy plan; it's just too vital.) I suppose the McCain campaign and the RNC are getting more and more desperate ... and I don't blame them. The poll numbers are thoroughly depressing for the senator from Arizona (whom I supported back in 2000).
Posted by: MrObvious on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM
This along with Pelosi commenting how she'd like to see gas reach 6 bucks a gallon in order to encourage all of us to get rid of our gas guzzlers reveals the hijackers of the Democratic Party for what they are. They want control and they don't care who they bankrupt in order to have it, including me and you along with the Coal Power Plants.
Posted by: Ben on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM
My biggest concern about the economy is energy & jobs. People are willing and wanting to work, however, I fear that if Obama is elected we will see the unemployment rate really spike. His energy policies are going to carry over to worsening our economy. We really can't afford that now. He made a similar statement, essentially stating that we need to raise the cost of gas to change peoples behavior.
Posted by: Cindy on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -
Posted by: Ryan on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Why don't you read the entire interview before you jump to conclusions. He was saying that we need to invest in newer technologies to produce clean coal instead of dirty coal so your children and grandchildren can breathe clean air instead of the soot produced by old coal plants. Make sure you read entire quotes before you make decisions. The right wing groups will take anything out of context to show Obama in a bad light.
Posted by: John on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Do any of you posters realize yet that Obama's audio comments have been available on the Web since August, and that a bogus news site picked them up like they were new, and McCain, Palin and Drudge ate it up with a spoon, as are you all. The comments did not lay a death sentence on the coal industry. Please listen for yourself.
Posted by: Cass on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Hah! Another fake story that gets media play. It is too funny that people actually fell for it. See what the Chronicle says about it. I guess the message is that you can't trust anything that republicans say.... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL
Posted by: Peeping on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:02 PM
The newsbusters story is fictitious. Go to the SF Chronicle website if you want to hear the real recording, which has been on their site since January. That Palin and the Republican National Committee is using the false information shows how low they will stoop to win the presidential election. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL
Posted by: Keith on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM
This story is a complete fabrication. Check the SF Chronicle. The tape is a fraud. They are just making stuff up now. Obama supports coal, and technology to make it clean.
Posted by: Matt on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Please refer to the original supposed source for this information the SF Chronicle. This is sketchy reporting at best. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 2, 2008 at 10:00 PM
This "hidden" audiotape has been online for over 10 months, i.e. this is not new. Further, what Sarah Palin said about Obama remarks during the discussion are simply untrue (why is that surprising?) Check out this link from the San Francisco Chronicle for the true story on this so-called "hidden" tape: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/b/a/2008/11/02/nov05election-lies_half_truth_2.DTL
Posted by: Myron on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:59 PM
San Francisco Chronicle Denies they edited the tape but does not deny the content. The Chronicle is perhaps the most left wing newspaper in America and it's blogs and comments are vicious and toxic in their commentary on McCain and Palin, bordering on hate.
Posted by: L.C. on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:58 PM
People this man MUST BE STOPPED. Barack Obama will DESTROY this country. He can NOT be trusted, his allegiances are not to the People of the United States, but to the radicals that shaped his views. I can't believe how many people actually believe he is the MESSIAH. If you love this country as much as I do please, please, please vote McCain Palin. John McCain is a true American Hero who will put this great Country First.
Posted by: DaleW on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:58 PM
This is only the beginning. The media will never apologize for selling this empty suit.
Posted by: George on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Joanne you are wasting a post to Charlie. His post has more spin on it then the carousel at Camden park. Charlie todays Kool-aid flavor is Lemon, got it? People like Charlie will be part of obamas national security force. Oh I bet you didn't here about that one on the MSM either. Well see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s People like Charlie will become one of obamas brownshirts. But it doesn't have to be this way. Vote McCain!!!!
Posted by: greg deVeer on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:56 PM
You guys have your head in the clouds. McCain supports the same policies with regards to coal. Even Fox news is debunking this story. Good lord you guys are desperate.
Posted by: dontbeafool on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:54 PM
this story is a fake. go to www.sfgate.com
Posted by: Ohio4McCain on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:52 PM
How many lies does this terrorist, raghead, Muslim, have to tell. he is a devil.
Posted by: Watch Dog on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:49 PM
Obama is the BIGGEST FRAUD IN THE HISTORY OF THE US
Posted by: robar on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:46 PM
This punk has to be stopped at the polling booth - - -
Posted by: exDemocrat on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:42 PM
This comment was NOT "taken out of context." Read the whole thing. And you media people just repeat Obama's lying retort and give him the last word in the article. You are scum and I hope the coal people will come after you AND the politicians with torches and pitchforks. YOU have sold out our country, just like Obama. In the words of Todd Beamer (whom I sure you hate because he was patriot), Let's roll! Now more than ever Mountaineers and Virginians: McCAIN/Palin '08! VOTE VOTE VOTE! The media is counting on your discouragement!
Posted by: Tronman on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:41 PM
"Obama, is always putting his foot in his mouth..." Not true. It never leaves his mouth.
Posted by: Jay on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:40 PM
OK, we're using government employees dig up "dirt" to harass and put down a man who works in the plumbing industry and has a dream to own his own company. And, now we're going to use energy policy to purposefully bankrupt coal companies? How does any of this help the United States? How come I am not hearing any ideas about entrepreneurship and building businesses of all sizes to help build a strong job base? All I hear are attacks America and what is wrong with it. Isn't it time to start looking at the MANY GOOD THINGS AMERICA CAUSES TO HAPPEN HERE AND IN THE WORLD?
Posted by: Jim on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:38 PM
I went to the Sarah Palin Rally today in Marietta, OH. Palin revealed this to the Rally. She said it is amazing this only came out in the 11th hour. Why? I commend WSAZ for putting out this story. I have been calling the news desk at TV stations in Huntington, Columbus, Richmond, Charlottesville, Charlotte, and Denver. I called Channel 13, they would not air the story. I appreciate Channel 3 for airing the story. We need to call TV stations across the country and hopefully push them into airing the truth.
Posted by: laura on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:36 PM
Palin's choice in this ad is very done.
Posted by: Jason on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:34 PM
This is taken out of context. Where does Obama say that he would bankrupt the entire coal industry? He says that anyone that wants build a coal fired power plant will be taxed into bankruptcy because of all the pollution and carbon that the plant will emit. Sounds fair to me. If coal is going to be in our future, we need to implement state of the art clean burning technology. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd prefer our skies not be filled with smog and filth like China's.
Posted by: Tim on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:30 PM
1. This interview has been available in its entirety since January to the public. 2. The McCain/Palin ticket also supports a cap n trade system for coal plants http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/17671aa4-2fe8-4008-859f-0ef1468e96f4.htm 3. This is just one more lame distraction just before the election. Palin is on a roll with her rally-speech fodder.
Posted by: Jaded on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:29 PM
It is so funny that everything he says is taken out of "context" and everything else is a "distraction"....funny how your OWN words are a distraction taken out of context. WE in VA will take care of getting McCain the state you all in PA, WV, OH, CO, SC, NC, and FLA take care of your states. We can send this SOCIALIST home!
Posted by: Mike on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:28 PM
Sorry, but Obama just seems scarier each day. And I am not even voting for McCain! (Voting Chuck Baldwin). If anything can close the gap in the final days, this type of story can. Obama can forget about any coal mining states in this election.
Posted by: AvaMae on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:26 PM
Only someone lacking intelligence would so totally misconstrue the process of cap and trade - Or McCain parrots that make something up out of whole cloth and then huff and puff about it. It won't work. I daresay that GWB arrived in DC with more bluster and less intellect that McCain has, and his last 8 years have been pitiful. His nation and all the citiznes in it have suffered for his sliming and lying campaigns. I believe McCain will be censured when he returns to the Senate - his lies and cowardice to have surrogates say them while he denies it are that blatant. If this is the way McCain thinks he can win, God help us all... No one wins this way.
Posted by: jerryd on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Why put this up since McCain does the same thing!! Coal is the most destructive fuel from mining that destroys large amounts of land and all the water downstream, wells, ect. It should pay it's cost instead of it's clean up, health problems in my, your income tax. WE should pay for the damage we cause shouldn't we? It's these subsidies on coal, oil both direct, indirect that kept RE from being used. With this Carbon tax evens the playing field. Why new coal plants will bankrupt companies that build them is they will have to compete with RE like solar thermal, wind, tidal/river gens all now cost less to build than coal plants and you don't have to buy fuel. So before you put up such wrong inflammatory headlines, at least read the article!! jerryd
Posted by: Andy on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Many voters are too dense to study Obama outside of what the media propoganda machines feed them, and yes the media has outed themselves as biased. One of Obama’s smartest tactics was pushing his people to vote early and often Chicago-style before they wise up to his plans for “Change”. The McCain backers don't need Obama Economics 099 (a remedial class for Kool-Aid Drinking Obamatrons). The course description starts: “No Text book distributed to students. All questions regarding corporate financial must be answered “Private industry willl be bankrupted by taxes, restrictive production controls, and government mandated market pricing and distribution. Assets will be appropriated by the national government where former workers will be rehired at wage-rates determined by the State.” Thanks Comrades!! And Big Thanks to the Obama / Reed / Dean / Pelosi team for pushing the US to critical mass on the Clower Pliven strategy!!!
Posted by: Norm on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:24 PM
The Marching Morons: It is a fact that morons beget morons @ a greater rate than persons of higher intelligence, and due to this phenomenon we are becoming a nation of declining intellect and continue to "dummy down". The election, & subsequent reelection of President Bush is living proof of this theory. I put forth that anyone who truly believes the right wing's out-right pack of lies about Obama like: "He's a terrorist", or "he's out to bankrupt the coal industry", or that the average American will pay more taxes under his announced plan," or whatever... IS A MORON! We are vastly becoming a country of morons with values that will lead America away from reaching her true potential. Very sad :(
Posted by: hdg on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Reas carefully becuase you are watching and hearing what the German people heard in the late 1930's. Obama wants a National Security Force. So did Hitler..Hitler called his the SS. Obama wants tougher gun laws. Hitler took guns away from the Germans. Hitler formed the Hitler Jugend. Obama has already formed the Obama Youth. Hitler shut down the media...Obama has already taken away media opportunities from media outlets that do not go along with him. It's scary out there. Be careful.
Posted by: Al on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:22 PM
Obama is explaining how clean coal will be achieved .. through a charge for greenhouse gases and other polutants ... just like every other source of energy. McCain has a similar program. All sources will be on an equal playing field - capitalist principles will control. Incidentally - nuclear is the biggest threat to coal production. The recording has clearly been edited - removing a passage.
Posted by: Jerry on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:20 PM
WHat about the increase in the price of electricity Obama's scheme will cause? Existing coal powered power plants will also be forced to pay those huge greenhouse gas taxes as well. Obama and the Democrats seem to want to destroy our economy with $5.oo gasoline and now huge power bills. Hopefully Pennsylvania will wake up from their Obama stupor and see the hand writing on the wall. Lots of unemployed coal miners will be the result.
Posted by: Fred on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:16 PM
This is one of the sillier attacks of the campaign, and Fox News has already pointed out its errors. Obama, like McCain, advocates reduction in CO2 emissions via clean coal technology. Anyone listening to the audiotape (which is cut and spliced) will hear no plan to bankrupt the coal industry, but only to make the construction of new coal-fired plans prohibitively expensive if they don't utilize technology to reduce carbon emissions. There is no mention of punitive measures directed against existing facilities. Almost every scientist familiar with climate change would endorse that view as a minimum requirement.
Posted by: sarah on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:14 PM
I don't understand why this is considered such an outrageous quote from Obama. If there are fines in place for polluting, and someone pollutes and is required to pay those fines, then of course he should have to pay those fines. And yes, he might go bankrupt if he continues to pollute. Here's what he could have said: "If someone wants to drive 20 mph in his car all the time, that's fine, but he's gonna get a bunch of speeding tickets and eventually go bankrupt." Is that a problem? http://www.CoupByMemo.com http://www.McLemon.com
Posted by: To Charlie on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:07 PM
Hey Charlie, Obama can't deny waht he said and the context wasn't twisted. Get a clue. He pas pandering to the San Francisco crowd and bashing on us dim-witted Appalachian-Americans. This is the same crowd to which he was speaking when he said we cling to our religion and guns. He hasn't even darkened the door of West Virginia during his campaign. He's only sent in "Blo-Jo" Biden for one visit. Get a grip on what the Obama strategy is built around -- saying what different segments of American society want to hear. I sincerely hope the people in WV and surrounding states take this to heart and send Obama back to organize communities in Chicago, or Indonesia, or wherever he was born.
Posted by: Mel on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:07 PM
How deranged does one have to be to vote Democrat??? Byrd and Rockfeller have both endorsed the guy who openly plots the death of far and away the biggest industry in their state
Posted by: rascalofearth on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:05 PM
The more you learn about the gop the more should understand how they are lying to you...click on the ABC link and read Obama's whole statement. Don't bee sheep and accept their edited version of Obama's position....or be sheep and vote for the millionaires yet again and watch your communities slip further into poverty.
Posted by: Hensley on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:04 PM
Obama, is always putting his foot in his mouth, that goes to tell you how inexperience and stupid he is. Now he wants to establish a Civilian Red guard,lol, in order to make sure his program is carried out unbelievable. People wake up, especially you Seniors, who are so unbelievable vulnerable and falling under the spell of this man. Obama, does not care for you, or others, he cares for himself and wants to make America pay back. He has I believe, emotionally problems. He has Socialistic ideals, and he says it. i.e. He loves pie, all kinds, (everyone is entitle to a piece of the pie) and that some do not have to work for it, just those that are motivated enough to make it. Pie/comrad they go together (Ben Stien movie, Expelled..) then he uses grow the economy from the bottom up, code for (workers and proloteriat) will take over the middle class-and upper class, where there will be only the lower class-and the ruling class, which would be the elites party with Obamaand advisors,rulers
Posted by: matt on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:03 PM
This interview took place in January and we're just hearing about it now?
Posted by: check this out and listen to the audio on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:03 PM
Copy the below link and listen to the audio... If you are still planning on voting for obama after that...Enjoy sitting in the dark!!! http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
Posted by: Steve on Nov 2, 2008 at 09:01 PM
Obama will say one thing to the Far left and promise the rest of us anything! What is clear is the fact that Obama promised to use Public funds for the election and he lied. He lied about the Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and the PLO leader. He voted "Present" 142 times out of 180, is he really going to have the back bone to tell the terrorist "NO" or will he state "present"! At least he can say present without a telaprompter.
Posted by: Al on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:55 PM
I am glad I didn't vote early now. Obama has changed everything and the only thing good about this is if I loose my job mining I will get a bigger tax relief or probably not because they have changed that to if you don't have a job you wont get nothing but maybe if they imposed my job being eliminated by them it wont matter but I doubt it. I see why he wanted everybody to vote early because he knew the truth would be revealed...what a lier he is.
Posted by: Kelly on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Barack Obama is a megalomaniac. How this man managed to get so close to the presidency is truly frightening and beyond anything I would ever have imagined. It's like a bad dream. Pray for John McCain.
Posted by: Joanne600 on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:50 PM
Charlie: Believe it. Here it is from the transcript. "What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there. I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year. So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."
Posted by: S.t on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:48 PM
...& how are ya gonna like the $10K/car Gore-tax on US made cars?
Posted by: Flyoverman on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:46 PM
It should be noted that in his laundry list of energy sources in his energy policy was "clean coal." Remember when Biden "gaffed" for saying no new coal plants? Turns out he was telling the hidden truth. Bottom line, OBAMA LIED.
Posted by: michael on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:43 PM
I guess we now know why the press has said he was having trouble "closing the deal". He's lying and everyone thought that was the case. Now we know--just in time!
Posted by: doug on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:41 PM
thanks television 3 for covering this issue. unfortunately many news organizations are not as fair or unbiased. this is further proof he is the ultimate politician = he says what he needs to, where he needs to and how he needs to get voters believing in him and his empty promises. how can any local worker in the coal and related industries vote for a man who openly plans to bankrupt and industry?? all workers (coal, railroad, energy and barge) should look past their union affiliations if they are interested in long-term job security.
Posted by: coal country girl on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:41 PM
McCain and Obama both support cap and trade policies to encourge new coal technology that will reduce/eliminate emmissions. Their policies are very similar... Obama proposes to reach emissions limits and 100% auctioning of credits to raise more money in investments into new coal technology. Sourewatch.org has information on both candidates stances on coal -- take a look and you'll find them to be extremely similar. McCain and Obama are both against MTR/VF surface mining. McCain and Obama are both pro-market incentives and regulations to encourage "clean" coal development. The McCain camp is using this soundbite to drum up votes in the final days, despite how similar their plans are.
Posted by: Joel on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:36 PM
spread the wealth,bankrupt the coal industry,civilian terror force,the fairness doctrine....sounds a lot like Hugo Chavez doesn't it?
Posted by: Andy2 on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:35 PM
Let me see - Obama says something back in January and the McCain supporters use it in November to try to scare voters away. Haven't we seen this movie a thousand times already? The McCain folks can only say how they're different by trying to knock down their opponent, lies and distortions no problem.
Posted by: Apotu on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:31 PM
His statement is correct. He's making a comment about polluting the atmosphere, not so much about causing bankruptcy. Are you saying you *want* more pollution in the air, and that you don't want to fine those who don't care about the pollution?
Posted by: miner4mccain on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:30 PM
obamas campaign in already trying to talk their way out of this one just like all the other two faced comments he and biden have made over the last few months. what is it going to take before the american people see through the lies?
Posted by: We The People on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Hey, WSAZ(What says) you also let the fact be known that John McCain have the same opion about coal? I leave it to you.
Posted by: Ed on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Look at this point only a masochist would vote for Obama. The man has shown that he obviously hates America and his policy are a recipe for utter disaster. How did the Democratic party allow such a far-left kook to be nominated for President?
Posted by: Paulrevere on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:22 PM
Hope most of you mine workers didn't vote early. You may regret it. Cecil Roberts must have egg on his face for sure. No one can be America's president saying they are going to bankrupt a national industry of any kind.
Posted by: davidcook on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:17 PM
WHAT?how could this be? the umwa is supporting obama. this just shows that the umwa would support anyone as long as they were a democrat, regardless of their policies. if you know anyone or you yourself work in the coal industry or your job is dependent on the coal industry, why would you vote for obama? he will do as he says in this story. he needs californias delegates more than west virginias to win this election and will do what he needs to win them. i believe that manchin, rockefeller, bird and rahall have sold out the people of wv with their support for obama. joe is bragging about how well wv is doing right now, imagine it without coal. where will we be after obama? think before you vote!!!
Posted by: Working in WV on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:13 PM
Seriously. Does the average West Virginian need to hear any more? First it was Biden with his negative comments about coal fired plants, and now it's Obama. And they all say it was taken out of context. Honestly, which "context" would it be better in. I agree we definitely need some new ideas but Obama doesn't have them. He'll tax the American companies to the limit until they either go out of business or go overseas and expand social programs (redistribution of wealth). If you live in WV, you better think long and hard when you cast your vote. If I depended on coal for a living I would think which party has gone on record AGAINST the coal industry. Democrats.
Posted by: Charlie on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:10 PM
Things the republican campaign say have a way of twisting to fit their needs just like this it is her words saying he is comfortable with a power plant going broke. He is saying with the amount the power companies are charged or fined NOW under the Bush administration could only bankrupt them NOT saying his policies would do this. Obama would never say something that he would do would cause such an event. Hes running for president no way he would say something like that, not even a nice try on this one. This twisting & lying is such a big turn off just like the rest of their hogwash we have had to endure the last 8 yrs.
Posted by: Fish on Nov 2, 2008 at 08:07 PM
The campaign comment about transition does not address Obamas original statement. He was very clear about his desire to destroy the coal industry. Marxism is upon us.
Posted by: Dave on Nov 2, 2008 at 07:58 PM
I'll help McCain beat him in Florida. You help McCain beat him in West Virginia.
Posted by: mike on Nov 2, 2008 at 07:57 PM
Seems like he saves a lot of his interesting comments for when he's in San Francisco....Isn't that where he said we cling to guns and our God?
Posted by: sDee on Nov 2, 2008 at 07:54 PM
There is even more to what Obama promised to his liberal SF base in that interview. He intends to let the cost of coversion from coal and natural gas. There is much we do not know about Obama. http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/02/obama-ill-cause-energy-prices-to-skyrocket/
Posted by: MrObvious on Nov 2, 2008 at 07:51 PM
Gotta luv it! The more you learn about Obama the more you realize why he urged everyone to vote early! He knew that the longer the people waited to vote, the more his past would sneak up to bite him in the buttocks. If anyone votes for this guy, they have to be nuts.
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